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| 03:24.37 | linuxxd | doc |
| 03:25.32 | linuxxd | any cool tablets with the gta04? |
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| 14:27.02 | gena2x | My n900 is dead :(. Thinking what to try next. anyone tried ubutu phone? Is it usable as daily phone? |
| 14:28.23 | PaulFertser | gena2x: ogra on #ac100 is one of the devs |
| 14:28.30 | PaulFertser | gena2x: you can ask him :) |
| 14:28.33 | PaulFertser | gena2x: hi btw :) |
| 14:28.43 | PaulFertser | gena2x: if you liked n900 why do not you get another one? |
| 14:28.47 | gena2x | PaulFertser: hi Paul! |
| 14:33.00 | gena2x | PaulFertser: I think i can repair it (it just has broken wire between lcd/kbd and cpu), so i am just thinking about different options: repair n900, switch to gta04 and use gta02 while receiving it, switch to ubuntu phone or forget about phone stuff, ssh and apt completely and switch to android =) |
| 14:33.32 | PaulFertser | gena2x: cyanogen community is absolutely sick afaict. |
| 14:33.44 | PaulFertser | So i do net expect any good from android. |
| 14:35.23 | gena2x | i see that i can get nexus for $200 on avito and install ununtu to it, and it will be relatively free, apt-based, ssh accessinble, with actively developed. sounds good? |
| 14:36.08 | gena2x | this would also include pretty good hardware for low price |
| 14:36.44 | gena2x | question is how usable the ubuntu phone edition. |
| 14:38.11 | gena2x | What are you using now by the way? GTA04? |
| 14:42.00 | gena2x | n900 is very nice btw, but ufortunately dead end =( |
| 14:42.28 | PaulFertser | gena2x: still on my gta02 |
| 14:44.28 | gena2x | hardcore... |
| 14:45.48 | PaulFertser | gena2x: running XMonad! |
| 14:48.37 | gena2x | tiling wm... without keyboard... |
| 14:49.27 | PaulFertser | gena2x: works much better than Enlightment. https://gitorious.org/xmonad-smartphone-config/xmonad-smartphone-config/blobs/master/README.org |
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| 14:51.18 | gena2x | PaulFertser, heh, i like this 'fingernail' word =) |
| 14:51.40 | PaulFertser | gena2x: why? Sounds quite usual to me. |
| 14:52.52 | gena2x | PaulFertser: and for all freerunner users. rest of the world use just finger =) |
| 14:53.45 | PaulFertser | gena2x: i still prefer resistive screens. N900 is resistive too. |
| 14:57.59 | gena2x | PaulFertser: i mean that as the screen is quite small and edges are not accessible and lack of stylus, slowness of device (so it's not easy to correct typos), all freerunner users (including me while i were using it) are using fingernails very often, while on other devices it's enough to use just fingers, in almost all cases. |
| 15:00.19 | gena2x | PaulFertser, and don't take this seriously please... |
| 15:03.01 | PaulFertser | gena2x: i think it's not about slowness, but the screen size mostly. Yes, i do not like the small screen too. But well, I'm just trying to configure Emacs and xvkbd the way it would be tolerable. And in fact it is. I've also fixed some annoying fsogsmd bugs recently and now the nastiest thing i have is a hardcore resume issue that happens once in 50 times or so. |
| 15:03.53 | gena2x | PaulFertser, yeah, i can recall this hardcore resume thing... |
| 15:04.09 | gena2x | PaulFertser, sad nobody fixed it yet.. |
| 15:05.46 | PaulFertser | gena2x: i do not have the debug board so it's not easy for me to try to fix it. It means if i want to try i should solder a jtag adapter directly, get the dump, then desolder and use my phone as usual while trying to understand the dump. And then repeat several times... |
| 15:06.18 | gena2x | PaulFertser: i can bring llindi's dboard for you... |
| 15:06.34 | PaulFertser | gena2x: are you nearby any time soon? |
| 15:06.43 | PaulFertser | gena2x: i'm not sure if i'm "cool" enough to tackle that bug though. |
| 15:07.09 | PaulFertser | gena2x: but lindi- tought me how to reproduce it, in about an hour so it's at least possible to try... |
| 15:07.53 | gena2x | PaulFertser, not yet, but I can ask is anyone going there, so it may take month of two, but occasionally possible |
| 15:08.05 | gena2x | s/is/if/ |
| 15:09.51 | PaulFertser | gena2x: it's faster to source it here. It's just that i do not feel i can do that, the issue seems so complicated. I can even use lindi's hack to split the RAM and use special qi version and to reproduce it and get the dump after wdt reset... |
| 15:10.53 | gena2x | you mean ramconsole patch? |
| 15:11.07 | gena2x | yes, actually much may be done without dboard |
| 15:12.14 | gena2x | or the thing with fast removing the battery so ram is not reset? |
| 15:12.26 | gena2x | that was really cool stuff |
| 15:14.08 | gena2x | i'll ask if anyone heading moscow anyway |
| 15:14.26 | gena2x | and if they are, transfer it to you |
| 15:16.41 | gena2x | PaulFertser, heh, you inspired me to delay decision and use gta02 for a while =) |
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| 15:17.36 | PaulFertser | gena2x: :) |
| 15:18.36 | gena2x | any description on how to reproduce that hardcore resume stuff? |
| 15:21.31 | PaulFertser | gena2x: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/crash/README point 9 |
| 15:22.04 | gena2x | thanks |
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| 15:28.34 | PaulFertser | gena2x: if you get the dump with 2.6.39 please do not hesitate sharing :) |
| 15:29.26 | gena2x | sure |
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| 15:43.32 | gena2x | eh, quest just started - dfu-util is not working for some reason... |
| 15:48.13 | PaulFertser | gena2x: what does it say? |
| 15:50.02 | gena2x | nothing, just slowly drawing '#' in 'Starting download: [##' (like 4 minutes), than 'dfu_download: libusb_control_transfer returned -7' |
| 15:50.13 | gena2x | i guess i should try different host kernel... |
| 15:50.46 | PaulFertser | Or different cable |
| 15:50.50 | PaulFertser | Or usb port. |
| 15:51.05 | gena2x | cable already tried, so kernel and port left =) |
| 15:53.49 | gena2x | or exchange person who types commands. it was wrong partition =) |
| 15:58.54 | PaulFertser | gena2x: heh :) |
| 16:01.00 | gena2x | btw, it's funny that qtmoko on freerunner boots much faster than n900 =) |
| 16:02.12 | gena2x | it's also cool that you never have to wait for 30 minutes to charge being in booloader if battery fully discharged |
| 16:06.14 | PaulFertser | I think it's better to have it like n900 than to occassionally struggle with an unbootable gta02 with flat battery. |
| 16:06.52 | gena2x | you just unlucky =) mine can boot without battery. always =) |
| 16:09.55 | gena2x | another nice feature btw |
| 16:11.02 | PaulFertser | I'd just set default limit to 500 mA in violation of the specs... |
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