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| 04:14.01 | myself | So, it turns out I was a moron, and didn't realize the first layer of foam pulled out of the pelican case. Debug cable was in there all along. My friend was checking out the gta-01 tonight and went through the case. :) |
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| 05:12.30 | PaulFertser | myself: cool :) If you're going to use OpenOCD, please use the new "ftdi" driver, not the old ft2xxx or ft2232. |
| 05:22.12 | djp | PaulFertser: what would you reccomend for a GTA02, for a debian user such as myself? |
| 05:22.32 | djp | OS and setup wise |
| 05:23.24 | djp | QTmoko? |
| 05:28.05 | PaulFertser | djp: if you are not planning any serious work on improving FSO, then yes. |
| 05:31.49 | djp | as close to the bone debian phone as makes sense.. whatever works! |
| 05:33.08 | djp | ok then, well there are copious instructions, so as soon as I get this friggin battery charged, I'll have a go at it! |
| 05:33.49 | djp | ok, is there a hardware fix for the GTA02, battery won't charge if it's dead" bug? |
| 05:34.52 | djp | I'm looking for a nokia/ aftermarkey charger, but they're getting scarce |
| 05:35.06 | djp | I'll get one on eBay |
| 05:35.55 | djp | but if there's a tiny resistor to add, or a trace to be cut, I think it wold be worth doing |
| 05:36.28 | PaulFertser | djp: you can actually charge a flat battery |
| 05:36.49 | djp | hmmmm.. go on.. |
| 05:37.07 | PaulFertser | djp: at least you can try it by booting to NOR uboot, it should work even without any battery. |
| 05:37.37 | PaulFertser | djp: if you can't get it to boot to NOR, try attaching to another PC. |
| 05:37.52 | PaulFertser | djp: this trick works with some for sure. |
| 05:38.47 | djp | whaa? really? ok, I'm gonna break out the miniUSB power supply.. is this some Vulcan-death-grip button sequence? |
| 05:39.19 | PaulFertser | djp: just keep AUX button pressed when you apply the power. |
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| 05:40.26 | PaulFertser | djp: another option: are you sure you do not have a lab psu around? Because if you do, you can boot the kernel and then (it'll be running from USB by that time) disconnect psu and attach the battery. |
| 05:41.38 | djp | because I thought this model was notorious |
| 05:41.39 | PaulFertser | djp: general advice: consult wiki.openmoko.org, it has an elaborate description of that "flat battery" problem as well as many other useful data. |
| 05:42.01 | djp | but the psu is a good idea.. 3.7v |
| 05:42.49 | djp | I have been over that wiki a bunch, even the flat battery pages, but didn't all stick :) |
| 05:44.03 | djp | so you're saying that without the psu, in this case, the "apply power + aux" might not work ? (hasn't so far) |
| 05:46.14 | PaulFertser | djp: aux and then apply usb power might work |
| 05:46.27 | PaulFertser | djp: but that depends on your PC/laptop (surprisingly). |
| 05:46.39 | PaulFertser | djp: do you have a wallcharger? With that the trick usually works. |
| 05:47.52 | djp | walwart 2 mini, yes, now to be clear, the aux button is the round one? or the square one ? |
| 05:48.32 | djp | or should I consult the wiki some more ;-) |
| 06:12.54 | myself | If you have a lab PSU and a decent ammeter, you could just hand-charge the battery for a few minutes, too. Lithium ain't rocket-science, just don't walk away from it. |
| 06:16.51 | myself | I have the USB-sourced version of this: http://dx.com/p/universal-cell-phone-battery-car-charger-black-dc-12-24v-55979 |
| 06:17.08 | myself | it's the most worthwhile thing ever. Can charge any single-cell lithium battery. Adjustable prongs mate with anything. |
| 06:17.31 | myself | I'm trying to find the version I have. |
| 06:20.04 | myself | Here it is, sold out, of course: http://dx.com/p/mini-usb-powered-universal-lithium-battery-smart-auto-charger-keychain-with-tf-card-reader-17794 |
| 06:43.47 | djp | yup, I have one just like it.. in storage! y'think I could find one ? |
| 06:43.52 | djp | naaaah |
| 06:44.19 | djp | but that did waork the last time, which wa sa while ago |
| 06:46.44 | myself | I've done plenty of lithium charging by manually babysitting the CC/CV process. Takes two meters, a decent power supply, and patience. Thing is, if you just need to bootstrap it, only the CC portion is needed, so you only need one meter. |
| 06:58.04 | myself | aha, found it! DX is out of stock, AliExpress has a qty.100 minimum, but this place claims to have it: http://www.focalprice.com/MC0055L/ |
| 06:58.09 | myself | I'll sh'up now :) |
| 07:01.14 | djp | no, cool, thank you! |
| 07:09.19 | myself | (yeah, I'm ordering twenty more. I've lost two, and not a week goes by when I couldn't sell one to a coworker for $5-10 after saving their butt with it) |
| 07:28.26 | PaulFertser | djp: aux is the round one |
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