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| 13:10.14 | leosaeba | hi to all. I don't know if this is the right place to ask. but my freerunner refuses to boot and I don't know how to solve this problem. |
| 13:11.57 | leosaeba | My freerunner is GTA02A7, I've got the debug board v3. the bootloader on NAND flash is qi |
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| 13:13.05 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: so provide the log from the serial |
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| 13:15.36 | leosaeba | ok. |
| 13:18.10 | leosaeba | http://pastebin.com/csEG1v95 |
| 13:18.34 | leosaeba | this is what happen when I plug the usb (nobattery) |
| 13:18.46 | leosaeba | the display is always off |
| 13:19.48 | leosaeba | the aux led (RED) does the following: long ON - about 4 brief flashes - long ON - OFF |
| 13:20.01 | leosaeba | ( long ON means about 1 sec) |
| 13:20.41 | leosaeba | I tried to boot to NOR flash....but it doesn't work... |
| 13:21.36 | leosaeba | but if I wait and play with buttons (aux and power) ... I manage somehow to reach the uboot in NOR ( I think ) |
| 13:22.04 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: reflash the kernel |
| 13:22.14 | leosaeba | this is what comes out the serial: |
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| 13:22.50 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: also, when you start Qi keep pressing power for two seconds, so that it'd use loglevel=8 |
| 13:22.57 | leosaeba | http://pastebin.com/MsgKKKbe |
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| 13:23.54 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: try booting with Qi with the power button pressed |
| 13:24.23 | leosaeba | PaulFertser: the kernel on host PC ( and dfu-utils ) doesn't see the freerunner when I plug it. |
| 13:24.38 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: boot to NOR first |
| 13:24.47 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: then dfu-utils would see it |
| 13:25.10 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: ah, and do not boot without the battery |
| 13:25.20 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: it is not supposed to work |
| 13:25.26 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: and in fact, it doesn't! |
| 13:25.44 | leosaeba | nope... even when I manage to execute uboot in NOR, dfu-utils doesn't see the device. |
| 13:25.48 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: only sometimes you can boot to NOR if you're lucky to have a host that allows that. |
| 13:25.48 | leosaeba | AH..... |
| 13:25.59 | leosaeba | ok...now I try with battery. |
| 13:26.01 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: but you can't boot the kernel with Qi on USB only. |
| 13:30.44 | leosaeba | PaulFertser: I tried with battery on (now there is an additional vibration while the aux led flashes). |
| 13:31.27 | leosaeba | I can boot to nor ( I suppose reading the serial over the debug board) |
| 13:31.54 | leosaeba | but the LCD doesn't lit...and the host PC (and dfu-utils) doesn't see the freerunner... |
| 13:32.19 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: what happens if you boot Qi? |
| 13:33.50 | leosaeba | if I insert the battery, then plug the usb, then power on....looks like the same output over the serial (like the first pastebin posted) |
| 13:34.02 | leosaeba | it hangs on booting the kernel. |
| 13:37.35 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: what lead to thi state? |
| 13:38.07 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: was it loglevel=8 this time with no output from the kernel again? |
| 13:40.02 | leosaeba | I cannot get loglevel=8 |
| 13:40.21 | leosaeba | even if I hold the power button pressed |
| 13:40.46 | leosaeba | btw i always read loglevel=4 on the command line from qi. |
| 13:42.51 | leosaeba | I don't remember how it went...It was like 1 year ago...I was flashing the nand for the last time...I've been trying shr and qtmoko alternatively during the past years. |
| 13:43.18 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: ok, how do you boot to the NOR? |
| 13:43.26 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: what exactly are you doing step-by-step? |
| 13:43.30 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: is the battery charged? |
| 13:43.43 | leosaeba | ....I suppose the battery is not fully charged. |
| 13:43.58 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: what voltage is it at now? |
| 13:43.59 | leosaeba | right now I just tried with a nokia battery... |
| 13:44.11 | leosaeba | (almost fully charged) |
| 13:44.38 | leosaeba | I don't have a voltmeter at hand right now. |
| 13:45.18 | leosaeba | would it work if I charge the FIC battery on a nokia 6630? |
| 13:45.47 | leosaeba | I just booted the nokia with the FIC battery....it says half charge. |
| 13:46.10 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: i'm not sure Nokia would charge FIC battery but you can try. |
| 13:46.22 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: but FR should work just fine with a nokia battery too |
| 13:46.36 | leosaeba | infact....It didn't like it... |
| 13:47.54 | leosaeba | ok, I will list the steps I'm doing to boot the FR. |
| 13:48.14 | leosaeba | (now I unplugged usb and battery) ...I'll wait 30 sec |
| 13:49.22 | leosaeba | There is no SD and no SIM. |
| 13:50.08 | leosaeba | the debug board is plugged to FR and powered (the serial console is open). |
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| 13:50.48 | leosaeba | now I will plug the FIC battery (I will not press any button) |
| 13:51.10 | leosaeba | nothing happened |
| 13:51.31 | leosaeba | now I just press the power button |
| 13:51.37 | leosaeba | (brief press) |
| 13:52.45 | leosaeba | the first description I gave. AUX red led dancing, brief vibro, qi outputs over serial...then nothing. |
| 13:52.59 | leosaeba | (I didn't plug the usb on the FR) |
| 13:53.45 | leosaeba | Now I will try to boot to NOR |
| 13:54.03 | leosaeba | unplugged the battery....wait 30 sec |
| 13:56.47 | leosaeba | now I will plug the nokia (I don't think is an orginal nokia) that is more charged. (not pressing any button) |
| 13:57.14 | leosaeba | nothing happened |
| 13:57.45 | leosaeba | Now I press the AUX (holding it) and a brief press on power button. (no usb cable on FR) |
| 13:58.15 | leosaeba | the u-boot 1.3.2-moko12 displayed. |
| 13:58.35 | leosaeba | like the second pastebin I posted. |
| 13:59.07 | leosaeba | note: the last 6 lines (mtdparts variable not set, see 'help mtdparts' ) |
| 13:59.46 | leosaeba | are output about 5 seconds after the first 8 lines are. |
| 14:00.19 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: the description of you booting to NOR looks correct. |
| 14:00.31 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: do you have nothing on screen too in that case? |
| 14:00.40 | leosaeba | now I try to plug the usb tosee if the host pc sees it (dmesg or dfu-util -l ) |
| 14:00.55 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: and have you tried attaching it to PC with different cables to different ports? |
| 14:01.35 | leosaeba | PaulFertser: I tried on 2 different PC. |
| 14:02.07 | leosaeba | the configuration is tlike this: 1 pc connected to the debugboard, 1 pc connected to FR. |
| 14:02.36 | leosaeba | the cables are always connected to the same pcs. |
| 14:03.17 | leosaeba | both usb cables are those coming with 2.5HD....2 male USB on one side, and the mini USB on the other. |
| 14:03.55 | leosaeba | I plug both the usbs on the PC (the power end too) |
| 14:04.22 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: sounds fine |
| 14:05.00 | leosaeba | I really don't know what could it be. |
| 14:05.41 | leosaeba | maybe the NAND kernel partition is corrupted.... |
| 14:06.03 | leosaeba | so when the bootloader pass control to the kernel everything hangs. |
| 14:06.23 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: when you boot to NOR the NAND partition shouldn't matter |
| 14:06.58 | leosaeba | but the kernel partition is on NAND too.. |
| 14:07.24 | leosaeba | or is it the uboot phase going wrong? |
| 14:07.57 | leosaeba | what does it mean the 6 errors about mtdparts when booting to nor? |
| 14:10.00 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: the NOR u-boot has some tricky script that sets mtdparts during the boot. Even with completely blank NAND the NOR u-boot should be showing the menu on screen. |
| 14:10.24 | leosaeba | right... |
| 14:11.14 | leosaeba | I'm sure I didn't touch the NOR flash...I never used the debug board before this problem appeared. |
| 14:18.28 | leosaeba | is it possible to flash the NOR? could it solve? |
| 14:22.30 | Wonka | I'd try to boot something from a microSD card first, using the NOR bootloader... |
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| 14:27.03 | leosaeba | Wonka: I just tried with the SD card, but I cannot select anything from NOR...the screen is off...and the serial over the DebugBoard says only this: http://pastebin.com/MsgKKKbe |
| 14:27.38 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: it doesn't look like this |
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| 14:28.37 | leosaeba | PaulFertser: what do you mean? |
| 14:29.55 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: that flashing NOR could help |
| 14:30.05 | leosaeba | ah. |
| 14:30.09 | leosaeba | ok. |
| 14:31.44 | leosaeba | could it be a display problem? plus my host PCs miss something that prevents them to see the FR when I plug while on NOR uboot? |
| 14:32.42 | PaulFertser | leosaeba: if you see nothing at all in dmesg, unlikely... |
| 14:33.04 | leosaeba | ok |
| 14:33.25 | leosaeba | I'm reading about booting from ram. |
| 14:34.04 | leosaeba | could it be useful to understand what could NOT be the problem. |
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| 14:46.28 | leosaeba | I've got to go now. Thank you very much. I'll stay on the channel if any Idea pops up. |
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