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| 08:00.19 | Qantourisc | Is gta04 ready for daily use ? |
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| 08:16.22 | DocScrutinizer51 | gta04 probably is. The question though is which distro to use on it |
| 08:22.31 | Qantourisc | Well at this point if I can call i'm rather happy :) |
| 08:23.07 | Qantourisc | DocScrutinizer51: you using gta04 ? |
| 08:23.31 | Qantourisc | android: holefest + this is no distro, it's distro masacrated by every phone vendor |
| 08:23.57 | Qantourisc | iphone: there policy and way of working and closeness bugs the hell out of me |
| 08:24.06 | Qantourisc | openmako is the only alternative i can find |
| 08:29.00 | vilpan | Qantourisc: mer is an interesting project as well |
| 08:29.20 | Qantourisc | or mer, or lxde |
| 08:29.22 | Qantourisc | any of them :) |
| 08:29.54 | Qantourisc | Point is: peaple are paying MORE then a cheap PC, but are ALLOWED to do less with it ... ?!? |
| 08:31.34 | vilpan | Qantourisc: I have the same "wtf?!" feeling, though, it's obvious most people just don't care enough. |
| 08:32.05 | Qantourisc | But before I spend 700€ on something that might be worthless... I need to know if it's usable :/ |
| 08:32.08 | vilpan | just like we could wonder why there are so many people willing to pay a lot for a proprietary desktop OS that's broken in so many ways. |
| 08:32.54 | Qantourisc | Games, and other broken properietary software, and habbit |
| 08:33.17 | vilpan | the only explanation I know is that most people aren't willing to make their own decisions on the way their systems will run. They want it to work and have the decisions made for them, even if that means losing a lot of flexibility. |
| 08:33.23 | aloniv | Qantourisc: you can always get gta02 - much cheaper... |
| 08:33.38 | Qantourisc | and slower ? |
| 08:34.36 | aloniv | yeah but it's more than usable... |
| 08:34.58 | Qantourisc | gta04 not ? |
| 08:35.05 | Qantourisc | of you mean the speed :) |
| 08:35.12 | aloniv | qtmoko and om2009 are pretty fast for regular phone use... |
| 08:35.49 | Qantourisc | can you still buy gta02 ? |
| 08:36.07 | aloniv | yes...you can buy new or second hand... |
| 08:36.36 | aloniv | if you want one with 1024 fix (deep sleep) it will cost more... |
| 08:37.46 | Qantourisc | Where is the gta02 shop ? :p |
| 08:39.16 | aloniv | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributors |
| 08:39.53 | aloniv | http://openmobil.eu/ is cheapest but it isn't buzz fixed... |
| 08:40.30 | Qantourisc | 230 ... well that can make a person doubt :p |
| 08:41.05 | aloniv | 139 euros... |
| 08:41.11 | aloniv | what is 230? |
| 08:41.23 | Qantourisc | 230€ |
| 08:42.00 | Qantourisc | or 139 yes :) |
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| 08:43.12 | aloniv | it's a lot less than gta04... |
| 08:43.23 | Qantourisc | yea |
| 08:43.32 | Qantourisc | not quite sure why a phone costs 700€ :) |
| 08:43.40 | Qantourisc | what's so dam expensive ? :) |
| 08:46.10 | aloniv | 749 euros compared to 139 euros... |
| 08:47.13 | Qantourisc | i'm not following |
| 08:47.54 | aloniv | gta04 complete (including case) costs 749 euros, gta02 (worst version but includes case) costs 139 euros |
| 08:53.37 | aloniv | back in a sec |
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| 09:33.19 | radekp | Qantourisc: if you care about supporting future then GTA04 is the choice |
| 09:34.48 | radekp | Qantourisc: it's so expencive because only few people already bought it - the more units are sold the better price it will be |
| 09:38.07 | Qantourisc | If mail, and phone works, i'm kind of happy |
| 09:38.23 | Qantourisc | if webcaldav, vcarddav works, i'm happier :) |
| 09:38.52 | Qantourisc | If it comes with packages from a large distro, even more :) |
| 09:39.45 | Qantourisc | PS, howlong does it last in idle ? |
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| 10:21.07 | DocScrutinizer51 | vilpan: you're not paying for the OS with GTA04 |
| 10:44.04 | vilpan | DocScrutinizer51: sure, I was referring to Windows, which is sadly popular :) |
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