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| 13:01.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | k!kmm |
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| 17:41.27 | Raziel1002 | Hi, can someone help me. I'm trying to install neo-1973 on ubuntu 12.04. |
| 17:41.53 | PaulFertser | Raziel1002: hi, and what's your issue? |
| 17:44.21 | Raziel1002 | When running openmoko/flash.sh. the NAND flash process times out. |
| 17:44.48 | PaulFertser | Raziel1002: don't run it then :) use dfu-util directly. |
| 17:46.08 | Raziel1002 | okay. Where is dfu-util locate? |
| 17:46.12 | Raziel1002 | located* |
| 17:46.53 | DocScrutinizer | ooh, this sucked my battery. Sorry for the noise |
| 17:47.16 | PaulFertser | Raziel1002: ahem, is wiki.openmoko.org working for you? |
| 17:47.21 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: hey Doc :) |
| 17:47.25 | DocScrutinizer | hey |
| 17:49.33 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: don't tell me wiki is broken again |
| 17:51.23 | DocScrutinizer | worls! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix#Rework_performed_by_Paul_Fertser :-P |
| 17:51.30 | DocScrutinizer | works even |
| 17:52.32 | PaulFertser | Hehe |
| 17:52.59 | PaulFertser | That was a polite way to make a hint for Raziel1002 , heh :) |
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| 19:40.42 | Raziel1002 | hello, is anyone there? |
| 19:44.24 | DocScrutinizer | ~ask |
| 19:44.24 | apt | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 19:49.44 | Raziel1002 | I'm trying to install qemu-neo1973. I used the manual setup tutorial at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU. After performing flash.sh, The NAND flash times out. PaulFertser told me to skip this and direct execute it using dfu-util, but i don't know how to use it.. |
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| 20:15.12 | PaulFertser | Raziel1002: oh oh i suggest to forget about qemu-neo1973. Why you might want to have it? |
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| 20:19.17 | Raziel1002 | Its required for one of my assignments |
| 20:20.08 | PaulFertser | Raziel1002: why do you think it might work, and why do you think anyone might want it to work, really? |
| 20:20.38 | Raziel1002 | I need to go through a tutorial, which can be found here http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/tutorials/l-openmoko/section8.html |
| 20:22.18 | PaulFertser | Raziel1002: the devices in the field are nothing special, just regular armv4 boards, why do you think you need any emulator at all, why can't you run the code natively on your dev machine? |
| 20:22.42 | Raziel1002 | I dunno how. |
| 20:22.56 | PaulFertser | Raziel1002: running code natively? |
| 20:23.49 | Raziel1002 | Well I need to execute it using the device and wanted to use an emulator to do so.. |
| 20:24.14 | Raziel1002 | that is what the assignment requires.. |
| 20:24.18 | PaulFertser | Raziel1002: why do you need to execute it using the device? And if you have the device, why do you need the emulator? |
| 20:24.55 | Raziel1002 | I don't have the device. Thats why I want to use an emulator.. |
| 20:26.01 | Raziel1002 | in the tutorial, I recommended using neo-1973 |
| 20:26.08 | Raziel1002 | it* |
| 20:28.44 | PaulFertser | Raziel1002: but what difference are you planning to see between running the code natively and in the emulator? |
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| 20:36.43 | Raziel1002 | The device executing the code instead of my system providing the expected results... |
| 20:37.15 | Raziel1002 | found in the tutorial.,.. |
| 20:39.49 | PaulFertser | Raziel1002: i haven't heard about anybody using that emulator successfully during all the time i'm following the project (more than 2 years). |
| 20:41.14 | Raziel1002 | Hrmm. Do you know an emulator I can use to complete my assignment? |
| 20:41.46 | Raziel1002 | the program I'm executing uses c |
| 20:42.06 | PaulFertser | Raziel1002: if your assignment requires using qemu-neo1973, then your question makes no sense, as another emulator would not be qemu-neo1973 and so you won't complete the assignment. |
| 20:43.17 | PaulFertser | Raziel1002: neo1973 is no different in most regards from your very own dev machine or any other GNU/Linux-running equipment, you can directly use or emulate any. |
| 20:44.23 | PaulFertser | Raziel1002: all the code i see in that tutorial is system-independent. |
| 20:44.36 | DocScrutinizer | anyway flashing NAND of an ... emulator ... sounds weird |
| 20:44.49 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: i guess it had an emulated flash device. |
| 20:45.12 | DocScrutinizer | emulating uBoot? |
| 20:45.20 | PaulFertser | I guess it did. |
| 20:45.29 | Raziel1002 | yes |
| 20:45.50 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_under_QEMU |
| 20:46.13 | PaulFertser | The list is impressive in fact. |
| 20:46.22 | PaulFertser | But the usefullness is unclear. |
| 20:46.31 | PaulFertser | I guess Sean spent quite some money on it. |
| 20:46.33 | DocScrutinizer | :nod: |
| 20:47.09 | DocScrutinizer | I'm way more interested in Embedded Trace Buffer of ARM cortex A 8, aka CoreSight |
| 20:47.33 | PaulFertser | I'd say if i knew anything about it. |
| 20:47.35 | DocScrutinizer | waves and heads out for diner |
| 20:47.44 | PaulFertser | Enjoy your meal |
| 20:48.10 | Raziel1002 | Well I'll try and execute it to see what I get. Thanks for the help, guys |
| 20:52.45 | Laksen | Ah that's nice |
| 20:52.58 | Laksen | Would anyone know if there are win32 binaries hosted somewhere? |
| 20:53.23 | Laksen | Or know some who might be able to create some? |
| 21:27.49 | DocScrutinizer51 | lols at /topic #openmoko-wikireader |
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