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19:01.46kvircthis still around?
19:02.26SpeedEvilSomewhat
19:02.35SpeedEvilA fair bit less traffic than a while ago
19:02.50kvircyea since everybody got an iphone/android and such
19:02.51kvirc:D
19:04.46PaulFertserkvirc: no way!
19:04.56kvirc:D
19:05.13kvircwell, those are the popular phones now
19:05.15kvircarent they
19:06.15Saziusyou can run android on freerunner though :)
19:06.52kvircyea but isnt that self-defeating?
19:07.01kvirchows openmoko doing these days
19:07.36Saziusnot sure how that is self-defeating though?
19:07.42PaulFertserkvirc: FSO+SHR is steadily going forward, much better than e.g. maemo/meego.
19:07.46PaulFertserkvirc: +aurora
19:07.59Saziusmaemo/meego: lol :)
19:08.11kvircwhats wrong with meamo
19:08.15PaulFertserkvirc: openmoko the company seems to be dead
19:08.19kvircand meego
19:08.20kvirck
19:08.25PaulFertserkvirc: killed by nokia and intel
19:08.48kvirci thought they wre still working on it
19:09.22rayneti recall intel just said that they will drop/freeze meego on their projects
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19:09.41PaulFertserkvirc: they are still screwing their users and developers :/
19:09.47kvirc:D
19:09.51kvircevery company does that
19:09.54kvircpoint?=
19:10.12PaulFertserkvirc: no, not every, and not in the same way :)
19:23.01SpeedEvilNokia have said they're bringing out a linux phone, though it's going to be based on web standards.
19:23.04SpeedEvil'meltmi'
19:23.09SpeedEvilWho knows what that means.
19:30.02Saziusfrom what I've read Meltemi is going to be based on Qt for low-end devices
19:30.53Saziussomeone told me it's going to be more similar to android in that there's no X11 and so on... my response was: right, Nokia is reviving QtMoko then? :)
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19:36.49SpeedEvilWell - meego was planning on dumping X too
19:36.58HeinervdmBut based on web standards, so it will be much slower then QtMoko ;)
19:37.27SaziusI haven't heard that web standards part before
19:37.29SpeedEvilHeinervdm: Be fair. Hardware has come on a long way in the 5 years or so it will be by the time it gets out.
19:37.45SpeedEvilabout as slow
19:37.50SpeedEvilErr
19:38.00SpeedEvilI think I'm confusing it with titzen
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19:38.20HeinervdmSpeedEvil: but if you compare the palm pre with webos and the palm pre with SHR you can see that this HTML thing is slow
19:38.45SpeedEvilJIT has in some ways helped that to be less true than it was.
19:39.34Heinervdmyes, this can be. we need to wait for a device to see this :)
19:39.58SpeedEvilwishes he had a spare hundred million dollars or so.
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