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| 03:02.42 | gkwhc | Hi, im trying to make a full backup of my gta02v5 with neotools. It is saying that mkfs-jffs2 not found, but i cannot issue "opkg install mkfs-jffs2" as the command line returns command not found. Any ideas? |
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| 03:20.32 | gkwhc | okay, i got around to install mtd-tools, but NeoTool is still reporting that mkfs-jffs2 is not installed.. |
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| 04:31.03 | gkwhc | i resolved the mkfs-jffs problem by editing the source code :) |
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| 04:37.40 | gkwhc | is there i way i can locate the kernel image if its not in /boot? im doing a full backup |
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| 04:51.01 | PaulFertser | gkwhc: from nand? |
| 04:51.09 | PaulFertser | gkwhc: it's in the corresponding nand partition then. |
| 04:51.17 | PaulFertser | gkwhc: cat /proc/mtd |
| 04:51.57 | gkwhc | PaulFertser: so i would have to mount that partition and copy the file over? |
| 04:54.54 | gkwhc | PaulFertser: im using NeoTool to make a full backup, but the kernel backup is not made as uImage is not found in /boot of the device |
| 05:09.38 | PaulFertser | gkwhc: no, it's not mountable, |
| 05:09.47 | PaulFertser | gkwhc: raw uImage written to raw flash. |
| 05:10.01 | PaulFertser | gkwhc: i have never understood the desire to use neotool, sorry. |
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| 06:13.13 | gkwhc | PaulFertser: i see. thanks for the tip & help! |
| 06:15.31 | PaulFertser | gkwhc: welcome :) |
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| 10:41.47 | michelem | folks, on my Debian I have / mounted from /etc/fstab as "rootfs /" |
| 10:41.58 | michelem | what does that "rootfs" actually mount from? |
| 10:42.26 | michelem | and what's the relationship with the uSD card mounted in /media/card ? |
| 11:06.13 | PaulFertser | michelem: rootfs is mounted by the kernel according to root= kernel command line argument. |
| 11:06.59 | michelem | PaulFertser: so with root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 I will have uSD mounted twice with an fstab like http://dpaste.de/V63i/ |
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| 11:08.30 | michelem | I'm considering replacing that with a ramdisk |
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| 11:09.44 | PaulFertser | michelem: hm, i'm not sure, it'll probably refuse to mount it the second time. |
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| 11:11.13 | michelem | I actually see everything mounted from "mount". That setup is actually quite confusing. http://dpaste.de/wSxs/ |
| 11:11.50 | michelem | Anyway, any experience with a root ramdisk? I'm primarily wondering about RAM, since the moko doesn't have much. |
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| 13:34.43 | michelem | btw |
| 13:35.11 | michelem | Xorg takes 85% of the CPU on my freerunner. Is this expected? Any way to improve it? |
| 13:36.19 | michelem | I'm using Driver "glamo" and Load "glx" and "dri2" already. |
| 13:43.32 | PaulFertser | michelem: it shouldn't if no client is constantly redrawing something or doing other related things. |
| 14:20.21 | khorben | michelem: could be because of automatic device discovery |
| 14:20.58 | michelem | khorben: can I spot that from xorg logs? |
| 14:21.23 | khorben | if it says something like "automatically adding devices" yes |
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| 15:14.48 | PaulFertser | michelem: he's right, i've forgotten about that feature of the newer x.orgs. |
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| 15:52.03 | michelem | khorben: I have that indeed. However, google doesn't help me with how to switch autodetection off. |
| 15:53.43 | michelem | found AutoAddDevices and AutoEnableDevices. |
| 15:55.39 | michelem | man xorg.conf makes it sound event-based though, not polling-based, so that wouldn't justify the load |
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| 16:54.09 | gkwhc | hi, i just got an freerunner and would like to install Debian. However, from the wiki i only see installation on uSD card. Can I install Debian to NAND flash? |
| 16:55.05 | mjr | I seem to recall someone doing that, though it's a bit more involved. Also, you need to use tmpfs or the card for wasit apt archives for it to work (shared mmap issues with the flash filesystem, iirc) |
| 16:56.01 | mjr | I haven't checked things out recently, so I might be off-base here, but probably best to do the sd install first and then copy it over to NAND if you really want to |
| 17:02.52 | gkwhc | mjr: oh great! so I can actually copy the contents of the SDcard over to the NAND? that is much easier :) |
| 17:06.06 | gkwhc | mjr: would I use dd to copy? or how? |
| 17:06.58 | mjr | more like cp -a with the nand mounted with your appropriate flash filesystem |
| 17:07.13 | mjr | (jffs2 or one of the newer ones) |
| 17:07.57 | mjr | anyway, #openmoko-debian probably has people with more current knowledge than me |
| 17:12.20 | gkwhc | i see. thanks! |
| 17:12.23 | mjr | presumably you could also run mkfs.jffs2 based on the installed sd card, and flash that at one go |
| 17:12.54 | gkwhc | mhm |
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| 21:00.25 | piko | Hello, I restarted my interest in openmoko after some time and I am noticed that the world changed a lot (FSO, android ...). Are there any other distributions than SHR or qtmoko now? |
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| 21:00.39 | piko | I mean mintained and developped |
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| 21:37.22 | hahaha | hi |
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| 22:01.00 | b0rf | the logs link does not work |
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