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| 08:05.26 | michelem | hello folks |
| 08:06.01 | michelem | the instructions for flashing the NAND mention a jffs2 filesystem |
| 08:06.18 | michelem | I suppose I can flash any (ext2) FS as well in there. Correct? |
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| 08:44.14 | jluis | michelem: you can flash any filesystem on NAND but most of them shall not be mounted rw |
| 08:44.53 | michelem | essentially I want to get rid of the native system on NAND to avoid confusion when the uSD does not work |
| 08:45.25 | michelem | I had occasions where the uSD failed (or the moko stopped being able to access it) and user got a similar-looking system, starting from NAND |
| 08:49.58 | jluis | so you want to disable booting from NAND? |
| 08:54.14 | michelem | either disable boot from NAND, or replace the NAND system with something that displays some "An error occurred" |
| 08:54.37 | michelem | btw, is there a ready-made busybox system for the moko around? |
| 08:57.35 | jluis | you could try qi-bootmenu http://www.brain-dump.org/projects/qi-bootmenu/ |
| 08:59.27 | michelem | looks good advice |
| 09:01.10 | jluis | you can also store an alternate distro on NAND |
| 09:03.05 | michelem | yes, thatàs the path I had in mind |
| 09:03.15 | michelem | however, qibootloader is expressive enough |
| 09:03.29 | michelem | my goal is just to say "there's something wrong here, return the device" |
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| 09:09.51 | michelem | the docs for that project sucks |
| 09:10.07 | michelem | is there any way to display a custom message somewhere in qi-bootmenu? |
| 09:23.15 | jluis | michelem: what distro are you using |
| 09:23.34 | michelem | debian, but how does that matter for qi-bootmenu? |
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| 09:27.47 | jluis | I'm too busy to look at the qi-bootmenu sources |
| 09:31.51 | jluis | but I was thinking to use a minimal distro and end puting the message on fb |
| 09:33.30 | jluis | with cat image >/dev/fb0 |
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| 09:54.06 | zear | hey there |
| 09:54.20 | zear | can anybody tell me which qi image do i need to use for SHR? |
| 09:54.44 | zear | there's nothing about that in their docs, and in the folder the doc links me to there are 6 different qi images with the same upload date |
| 09:55.20 | zear | here's where they link me to: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/?C=N;O=A |
| 10:03.23 | jluis | zear: the GTA02 s3c2442 , the GTA01 s3c2442 if is using an ubi fs on NAND get the -ubi- variants |
| 10:03.42 | zear | jluis, ah, thanks |
| 10:04.17 | michelem | zear: see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi#Installation |
| 10:04.24 | michelem | they mention the exact download link. |
| 10:04.46 | zear | michelem, i saw that page, but it says "OTE: The below Qi are for Openmoko. E.g. for SHR - use Qi from the SHR directory if newer. " |
| 10:04.47 | jluis | s/GTA01 s3c2442/GTA01 s3c2410/ |
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| 10:21.12 | zear | ok, SHR is now installed, thank you guys :) |
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| 10:27.25 | zear | oww, this is terrible |
| 10:27.29 | zear | SHR freezes as well |
| 10:27.40 | zear | so far there have been no distro that would be stable on my new freerunner |
| 10:31.38 | zear | terrible, SHR just crashed again |
| 10:37.03 | Sazius | do you have swap enabled? |
| 10:37.22 | zear | no, there's nothing about swap in the documentation of any of the distros i tried |
| 10:37.39 | zear | besides, i've been using SHR for years on my second freerunner, without swap or anything |
| 10:37.42 | zear | and it was working very wello |
| 10:37.44 | zear | *well |
| 10:37.48 | Sazius | OK, that's wierd then |
| 10:38.04 | zear | it has quite an old version of SHR i assume |
| 10:38.20 | zear | but it looks like there was regression in all the distros i tried now |
| 10:38.50 | Sazius | if it crashes hard there could be some hardware problem as well? |
| 10:38.51 | zear | i'm quite disappointed, but on the other hand, this is all a community work, so i can't complain much |
| 10:39.13 | zear | no, it's more like it becomes sluggish and then finally it stops responding |
| 10:39.20 | zear | but i bet you could still log on via ssh |
| 10:39.25 | Sazius | ok |
| 10:39.51 | zear | i guess my brother will have to switch back to his lg cookie |
| 10:40.12 | zear | there's literally no usable distro for the freerunner, unless you don't mind random crashes and slowdowns ;) |
| 10:42.11 | Sazius | well, my qtmoko kept freezing up when it used too much memory, adding swap helped with that... but you might have a totally different problem |
| 10:43.24 | Sazius | but I'm not a heavy user of the freerunner so I might just not have encountered those problems |
| 10:43.48 | zear | Sazius, at the time i decided to buy a second freerunner i was hoping qtmoko will be my last resort distro. You know, my brother dislikes all the other distors, then i flash something that actually works |
| 10:44.01 | zear | but it looks like qtmoko is as unstable as the others on this unit |
| 10:44.35 | Sazius | any particular situation when it starts acting up? |
| 10:44.56 | zear | in qtmoko? Well, once we froze it on answering a call |
| 10:45.04 | zear | the other time it happened when randomly launching some apps |
| 10:45.14 | zear | we didn't test further on, but moved to other distros |
| 10:45.56 | zear | plus, the on-screen keyboard (the one that's best for finger typing) is usually missaligned and partially out of the screen |
| 10:46.12 | zear | this is a show-stopper for my brother and he said he won't be using a phone he can't type with his fingers on |
| 10:47.00 | Sazius | I don't remember on-screen keyboard being out of screen at any time in qtmoko... very strange... |
| 10:47.15 | zear | Sazius, maybe i have a newer version of qtmoko |
| 10:47.21 | zear | where stuff is broken ;P |
| 10:47.47 | zear | Sazius, all the other keyboards are displayed correctly, but they're too small for finger typing :( |
| 10:47.49 | Sazius | I believe I have v35, which should be quite recent |
| 10:48.14 | zear | Sazius, i guess it's the same we tried |
| 10:48.43 | zear | when you have a textarea on the bottom of the screen, the keyboard will appear on the top of the screen, above the textarea |
| 10:48.57 | zear | and that's when the finger keyboard is being drawn partially out of the screen |
| 10:49.34 | Sazius | hmm, ok |
| 10:50.09 | zear | and what about the "official" firmware? The om or whatever it's called? |
| 10:50.13 | zear | is it usable yet? |
| 10:50.35 | zear | last time i tried it (circa 2008) it didn't even support typing sim card PIN ;) |
| 10:51.47 | Sazius | no idea, I've never used that :) |
| 10:52.11 | zear | oh, it's abandoned and it lacks basic features like the screen lock |
| 10:52.24 | zear | i don't feel like calling someone randomly while having freerunner in my pocket ;) |
| 10:55.07 | Sazius | I've personally settled for qtmoko as the "least bad" distro, but as I said I don't use it as an every day phone... |
| 10:55.38 | Sazius | and after fixing the swap-thing I haven't seen any crashes, but again I generally use it a few hours per week for GPS :) |
| 10:58.02 | Sazius | although this discussion got me thinking that I should try it as my main phone for a few days :) |
| 10:59.00 | zear | :D |
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