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| 12:35.10 | zear | hey there |
| 12:35.48 | zear | say, i'm trying to boot the kernel from a 1GB SD card, yet the bootloader (uBoot?) shows it as a 512M card and doesn't boot it |
| 12:36.08 | zear | could it mean that freerunner supports only cards up to 512M? |
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| 12:50.18 | h4v | zear: did you try Qi? |
| 12:50.31 | zear | h4v, no, i don't want to mess with bootloader flashing |
| 12:54.05 | zear | btw, what's the current "most usable" distro for freerunner? I need something that can be operated by an end-user and has all the stuff needed to make phone calls/sms, etc |
| 12:54.32 | h4v | IMO qtmoko if you don't need full X |
| 12:54.45 | zear | yeah, full X11 probably won't be needed |
| 12:54.54 | zear | as long as there are 3rd party applications for qt |
| 12:54.58 | zear | like games and stuff |
| 12:55.20 | h4v | i'd say very limited |
| 12:55.26 | zear | being able to make phone calls is a priority, but the user also said he wants to be able to install 3rd party apps |
| 12:55.50 | zear | and i don't want to install him SHR, because that has a very slow reaction time, and from my experience, glitches a lot |
| 12:56.22 | zear | SHR has a perfect software base, but is definitely not for an end user |
| 12:57.46 | h4v | if SHR's software base is perfect then qtmoko's should be sufficent |
| 12:58.22 | h4v | and use qi instead of uboot, it's maintained and user friendly |
| 12:58.39 | zear | h4v, it doesn't have the graphical boot menu, does it? |
| 12:58.58 | zear | and i read somewhere that it's harder to revert back to uboot |
| 12:59.07 | h4v | no, it doesn't |
| 12:59.27 | zear | i just got myself a second freerunner (still didn't receive the mail), and i'm thinking of giving it to my brother, who needs a new phone |
| 12:59.53 | zear | he mainly needs it for calling (that's why i think qtmoko should be perfect), but he said he also wants to play games (he probably thought of j2me) |
| 13:00.01 | h4v | qi boots faster |
| 13:00.14 | zear | h4v, how faster? SHR boots in about 5min for me |
| 13:00.26 | zear | if qi can boot in 1min, i'm gonna switch right away :D |
| 13:00.39 | h4v | about twice as fast |
| 13:01.43 | zear | wow, impressive |
| 13:02.00 | zear | i always wondered what would happen if i needed to make an emergency call and the phone is off |
| 13:02.13 | zear | 5min can be a matter of life or death |
| 13:02.38 | zear | also, SHR often boots without turning the modem on |
| 13:02.48 | zear | so i have to reboot and hope next time the modem will be up |
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| 13:50.58 | pabs3 | h4v: SHR unstable is pretty fast and UI responsive these days, almost on par with QtMoko |
| 13:51.41 | h4v | how stable it is? |
| 13:52.55 | pabs3 | not sure, I haven't been using it due to the white screen issues, just played around with the UI |
| 13:53.26 | pabs3 | wishes his Debian/E17 install was as fast as SHR |
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| 14:13.36 | pabs3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.05 | Sazius | you can use TangoGPS tiles with NeronGPS |
| 14:21.11 | Sazius | http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/qtmoko/index.php?title=FAQ#NeronGPS_using_FoxtrotGPS.2C_omgps.2C_Tangogps_tiles.3F |
| 14:21.49 | Sazius | I've generally downloaded those on my laptop and then rsync to Freerunner :) |
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| 14:28.41 | pabs3 | did the same when using E17 based distros, starting to do that with NeronGPS |
| 14:30.21 | pabs3 | hmm, I need a script to convert my foxtrotgps gconf settings to nerongps config |
| 14:36.55 | Sazius | OK, that I can't help with :) I just setup NeronGPS by hand... |
| 14:44.20 | pabs3 | I wonder if there is also any way to make it go to the last viewed location on startup instead of the default location |
| 14:46.48 | Sazius | that's something I'd like know as well |
| 14:47.13 | Sazius | I've added some common locations as POI's which I can at least access easily |
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| 15:39.34 | pabs3 | anyone ever make a battery extender cable so you can take out the battery and keep the device running? |
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| 15:51.07 | SpeedEvil | yes |
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| 15:59.57 | pabs3 | SpeedEvil: do you have a link? |
| 16:03.08 | SpeedEvil | No |
| 16:03.21 | SpeedEvil | It was three croc-clips, with the teeth removed so they were thin |
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| 17:13.27 | DocScrutinizer | a umber of devices can run from USB without battery. Not for active GSM though. OTOH for GSM working properly you need a *really FAT* extender cable as well, mustn't have >0.1Ohm total parasitary resistance. At OM labs those looked like a braid made of ~30 1.5mm^2 cables ;-) |
| 17:15.26 | DocScrutinizer | pabs3: ^^^ |
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| 20:45.04 | aloniv | hello all. I'm trying to lessen echo with partial luck. |
| 20:46.20 | aloniv | Unfortunately, when I change one of the values from 116 to 80 I need to use speaker to talk... |
| 20:47.16 | aloniv | Is there any value that should be twaeked using alsamixer other than mono? |
| 20:57.46 | PaulFertser | aloniv: take a look at the page i mentioned, "Neo1973_Audio_Subsystem" |
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| 21:21.43 | aloniv | ok will do... |
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