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| 03:28.48 | linuxxr | planet says "None of the range-specifier values in the Range request-header field overlap the current extent of the selected resource." |
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| 09:57.40 | FelixJongleur | Hey, does anyone know where to find the layout of the test points of/around the debug/jtag port of the gta02? Couldn't find it anywhere :( |
| 10:00.27 | SpeedEvil | Hmm. |
| 10:00.38 | SpeedEvil | You've looked for the schematic? |
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| 10:15.03 | FelixJon` | yepp. I got the schematics, also for the debug port, but there are 21 test points, only 16 shown in the schematic (with 17 ports). So I don't know which is which. I know up right is a gnd... |
| 10:18.01 | SpeedEvil | hmm. |
| 10:18.16 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer |
| 10:37.22 | PaulFertser | I know the answer too. |
| 10:37.38 | PaulFertser | PCB layout PDFs, they have all the available testpoints. |
| 10:39.03 | SpeedEvil | ah - you diddn't appear on the chanlist for some reason. yes - that would be a good idea. |
| 10:39.15 | SpeedEvil | I should have thought of that - not propelry awake yet. :) |
| 10:41.30 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: long time no see, how's life? |
| 10:41.55 | SpeedEvil | Much the same - still trying to sort out the house and grounds - though I'm further along. |
| 10:41.59 | PaulFertser | FelixJon`: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/schematics/GTA02/lindi-searchable/ |
| 10:42.30 | SpeedEvil | Currently I'm trying to get one side of the house well insulated, to slash my heating bills, and installing a solar-thermal panel for hot water. |
| 10:43.03 | PaulFertser | HiTech all around :) |
| 10:43.36 | SpeedEvil | Decidedly low-tech in some ways, but vacuum solar collectros from china are getting very cheap. |
| 10:43.54 | SpeedEvil | I'm just rather annoyed at the moment that in the UK, it's not poweible to net-meter with solar-pv. |
| 10:44.44 | SpeedEvil | It's only possible to either install panels for massive subsidy (twice what you pay normally in electricity per kWh) - if they are approved panels, by an approved fitter, for maybe 4* the market rate. |
| 10:45.12 | SpeedEvil | Or to get 'generation' payments of about a fifth of what you normally pay, for nonapproved panels. |
| 10:45.12 | FelixJon` | thanks, searching for schematics and pcb guided me to the docs I needed :) |
| 10:45.43 | SpeedEvil | And of course, the subsidies are paid disproportionately by the poorest in society. |
| 10:48.40 | DocScrutinizer | oh well, same as it ever was |
| 10:49.10 | SpeedEvil | Indeed. |
| 10:49.49 | SpeedEvil | And of course 'the solar industry' - by which the UK government means the army of people that go up roofs - lobby hard for this position to carry on. |
| 10:50.08 | SpeedEvil | As it's a nice little earner to be approved panel-fitters. |
| 10:50.09 | DocScrutinizer | hehe, sure |
| 10:50.25 | PaulFertser | Sick world :/ |
| 10:50.54 | DocScrutinizer | hope you must use the nice german solar cells ;-D |
| 10:51.22 | DocScrutinizer | ex-gdr need your money ;-P |
| 10:52.11 | SpeedEvil | I priced some panels by the palletload earlier I can get them at around a quarter of the approved, installed price. |
| 10:53.10 | SpeedEvil | To the point that if it was viable to simply net meter - that is - run your normal meter backwards - it would be a financially viable propsect, with no subsidy. |
| 10:54.31 | DocScrutinizer | here you get ~2..3 times the normal cost of kWh when you feed back by PV |
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| 10:55.12 | DocScrutinizer | the energy suppliers have to pay that, and they get it back from all those using electric power |
| 10:55.26 | SpeedEvil | Same here. |
| 10:55.35 | DocScrutinizer | I always thought of loppback :-P |
| 10:55.48 | DocScrutinizer | loop back* |
| 10:55.57 | SpeedEvil | I find it depressing that a pointless industry is subsidised. |
| 10:56.08 | DocScrutinizer | indeed |
| 10:56.12 | SpeedEvil | It's so massively cheaper to have large fields of solar panels that people can buy shares in. |
| 10:56.29 | DocScrutinizer | see desertec |
| 10:56.42 | SpeedEvil | Well... |
| 10:56.48 | DocScrutinizer | there's quite a bit of european movement now |
| 10:57.01 | SpeedEvil | That has sepeerate issues - any time the power crosses borders, there are obvious issues. |
| 10:57.10 | DocScrutinizer | sure |
| 10:57.25 | SpeedEvil | Some places are quite well placed and moderately stable - Spain, for example. |
| 10:57.37 | DocScrutinizer | we got same issues with the piplines from russia thru belarus |
| 10:58.03 | SpeedEvil | Yeah - it's bad when you hear about energy issues as the headline on the news. |
| 10:58.07 | SpeedEvil | It should be boring. |
| 10:58.14 | DocScrutinizer | in the end all want money, all will play nice |
| 10:59.21 | DocScrutinizer | and it's rather hard to wiretap 1MV DC lines ;-D |
| 11:00.32 | SpeedEvil | It is not hard to destroy them though. |
| 11:00.38 | DocScrutinizer | sure |
| 11:00.53 | SpeedEvil | Or to shut them off if you have a governmental disagreement. |
| 11:00.54 | DocScrutinizer | except for the fact they are underground |
| 11:01.10 | SpeedEvil | See russia/gas. |
| 11:01.18 | DocScrutinizer | nobody wnat to shut them down |
| 11:01.30 | DocScrutinizer | except for weirdos |
| 11:01.42 | SpeedEvil | Problem is that in some places, they elect wierdos. |
| 11:01.46 | DocScrutinizer | it's a money source |
| 11:02.15 | DocScrutinizer | seems they stopped that purpose now in north africa |
| 11:03.49 | DocScrutinizer | Marokko is even taking leadership and building desert solar without the EU :-D |
| 11:04.13 | SpeedEvil | If I was Iran, I would actually be heavily investing in nuclear power. |
| 11:04.26 | SpeedEvil | Simply as storage is a massive problem for solar. |
| 11:04.33 | SpeedEvil | And someone needs to make baseload power. |
| 11:04.55 | DocScrutinizer | not for desertec, they store thermal |
| 11:05.02 | SpeedEvil | True. |
| 11:05.24 | SpeedEvil | http://solutions.3m.co.uk/wps/portal/3M/en_GB/electronics/home/productsandservices/products/ProductNavigator/TapeAdhesives/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE3E02LECIE20KHO6_nid=8NBTLH65Q6beL4S7689SR8gl - I recently found. |
| 11:05.38 | SpeedEvil | After 20 years outside - it has a reflectance of 95% |
| 11:05.40 | DocScrutinizer | way more power available from sun than you need, ground is dirt cheap |
| 11:05.46 | SpeedEvil | It's a bit more expensive though. |
| 11:05.54 | SpeedEvil | 30e/m^2 |
| 11:06.49 | SpeedEvil | Then all you need is a nice bit of curved plywood, and you've got a really great solar collector. |
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| 17:06.44 | trev2 | Does anyone know how to convert my old qtmoko-package to a valid .deb I can install on the new qtmoko version using debian packages? Is there a simple approach? |
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| 21:48.01 | Hydrant_ | what's going on with the openmoko project these days? I've been out of the loop for a few years, and since my cell contract is expiring I might finally go to an openmoko for my "production phone" |
| 21:48.06 | Hydrant_ | has a freerunner |
| 21:49.45 | SpeedEvil | Unfortunately little. |
| 21:49.59 | SpeedEvil | Well - there is some efforts on the sW side |
| 21:50.05 | SpeedEvil | But OM corporate is out of it. |
| 21:50.24 | SpeedEvil | There are efforts to make a GTA04 type device. |
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| 21:51.41 | Hydrant_ | it's too bad... I really liked giving money to support the hardware development, it's why I bought one |
| 21:52.07 | Hydrant_ | I just want a phone that doesn't spy on me... Android is out, so is anything Apple |
| 21:52.08 | SpeedEvil | Indeed. |
| 21:52.22 | SpeedEvil | I'm happy with my nokia n900 at the moment. |
| 21:52.28 | Hydrant_ | nokia is now MS tho |
| 21:52.32 | Hydrant_ | otherwise I probably would have gone with them |
| 21:52.36 | SpeedEvil | Nokia has claimed they will release one more meego device. |
| 21:52.41 | SpeedEvil | This year. |
| 21:52.54 | SpeedEvil | Seemingly a phone. |
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| 21:55.20 | Hydrant_ | I don't know why it seems to be a prerequisite to be evil to sell mobile phones |
| 21:55.28 | Hydrant_ | the "app store" model bothers me immensely |
| 21:55.39 | Hydrant_ | as does a lot of the attitudes regarding privacy / GPS |
| 21:55.51 | Hydrant_ | if it's open software, I know exactly what my GPS is doing |
| 21:56.08 | Hydrant_ | it's really too bad they aren't making new openmoko's, I had hoped to upgrade since it's been a few years |
| 21:56.25 | Hydrant_ | even if the phone is more money, I don't mind so long as it's open you know? |
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