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| 14:04.17 | edje | hi all, i want to change back from the 2-4-2 timing to the old timing, is there anyone who knows which files i have to edit ? ( using http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/U-boot-gena2x ) |
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| 14:28.06 | vmlemon_ | Hi |
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| 14:54.08 | michelem | hello folks |
| 14:54.53 | michelem | I want to disable bluetooth and GSM at boot. Is there a specific way to do this, or I shall just write a startup script that runs the respective "om" commands? |
| 15:00.43 | PaulFertser | michelem: which distro? |
| 15:00.51 | michelem | I'm using debian |
| 15:00.59 | PaulFertser | michelem: with FSO? |
| 15:01.28 | michelem | yupp |
| 15:01.51 | PaulFertser | michelem: i think FSO disables the resources by default, including bluetooth and gsm. |
| 15:02.06 | michelem | I actually see them on after boot |
| 15:02.20 | PaulFertser | michelem: so unless you have phoneuid or zhone requesting them, they should be disabled. |
| 15:02.38 | michelem | right, there's probably QPE taking them on then |
| 15:03.05 | PaulFertser | michelem: you can use "lsfsor.py" to see the resources and processes that requested them. |
| 15:03.15 | michelem | ok, thanks |
| 15:03.41 | PaulFertser | michelem: qpe? I do not think it knows anything about FSO but it might do some direct messing with sysfs nodes on its own. |
| 15:04.03 | PaulFertser | michelem: how did it happen you run both FSO and QtMoko at the same time? |
| 15:04.06 | michelem | I searched for intuitive names in sysctl -a, but found nothing |
| 15:04.29 | michelem | I just have debian with QPE, and added the FSO repository to APT manually |
| 15:04.52 | PaulFertser | michelem: sysctl is not /sys sysfs filesystem, you can look through "om"'s sources to see the sysfs nodes |
| 15:05.34 | michelem | PaulFertser: yes, but do I have anything to change them then at boot? |
| 15:05.41 | michelem | something equivalent to sysctl.conf |
| 15:05.45 | PaulFertser | michelem: no |
| 15:05.53 | vmlemon_ | mrmoku: Out of interest, are you still working on your branch of the ISI dissector for Wireshark? |
| 15:05.54 | michelem | so I'd need a script anyway |
| 15:08.39 | PaulFertser | michelem: but if you want to do it behind qpe's back, it might turn it on again later. |
| 15:10.24 | michelem | I though about that, but it seems to not occur |
| 15:14.42 | michelem | also: some users were confused by the power button long press/short press, so I want to disable that |
| 15:15.01 | michelem | that's controlled directly by QPE, I suppose? |
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| 15:24.40 | PaulFertser | michelem: i've never used qpe so no idea here. |
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| 15:28.17 | michelem | FMI, what desktop environment does FSO use? |
| 15:29.35 | michelem | or, which one do you use as it appears FSO doesnt fix any |
| 15:38.35 | PaulFertser | michelem: fso is the middleware |
| 15:38.49 | PaulFertser | michelem: i personally use E17 and for GSM telephony i use Emacs. |
| 15:39.24 | michelem | I use the phone as an inexpensive portable computer to run a small application |
| 15:40.13 | michelem | QPE has always been a pain. Most stuff doesn't work, everything is hardcoded, and the graphical aspect is nearly insane. For example, it comes with two huge bars fixed on top and bottom of screen that remove 2cm of display |
| 15:41.44 | michelem | I'm very open to replace that, but the end-user application is written in QT. What is enlightenment based on currently? |
| 15:45.34 | michelem | skimming around it looks like a pain to run QT on enlightenment |
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| 15:49.21 | PaulFertser | michelem: hm, Qt app can be run under control of any WM. |
| 15:49.46 | PaulFertser | michelem: or even without WM, all you need is X. |
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| 15:55.12 | michelem | PaulFertser: yes, but you need to load double libraries (wm's own + qt) |
| 15:55.25 | michelem | what was the command to get the SDHC specs? |
| 15:55.35 | PaulFertser | michelem: (so libs) they get loaded automatically |
| 15:55.54 | PaulFertser | michelem: what specs are you talking about? |
| 15:55.55 | michelem | yes, but won't that take tenths of megs of ram? |
| 15:56.23 | PaulFertser | You can use some very lightweight WM, that requires only xlib. |
| 15:58.43 | michelem | do you remember the command to get tech details on the SSD card? |
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| 16:05.50 | PaulFertser | michelem: i think i can find out how to get some raw values from SD but i've no idea how to decode them without looking at some obscure docs. |
| 16:13.45 | SpeedEvil | http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=918 |
| 16:13.48 | SpeedEvil | overview of format |
| 16:15.27 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:15.27 | SpeedEvil | 0x000011 |
| 16:15.28 | SpeedEvil | forex |
| 16:16.10 | SpeedEvil | err - that's the emmc |
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| 16:21.23 | michelem | thx |
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| 16:24.00 | *** topic/#openmoko is Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware users | WikiReader channel #openmoko-wikireader | Developers channel #openmoko-cdevel | German folks channel #openmoko-de | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org + http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | logs http://is.gd/fiQwM | distro-specific channels: #qtmoko, #android-on-freerunner, #openmoko-debian |
| 16:26.26 | michelem | gosh, do you have to run debian sid to have e17? |
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| 17:57.44 | red_shadow | Greetings |
| 17:57.55 | red_shadow | Does anyone know how to get a shell on openmoko 2008? |
| 17:58.30 | red_shadow | 2009, sorry |
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| 18:14.22 | mrmoku | vmlemon_: yup, still have some unpushed work and will probably do more on it |
| 18:17.39 | red_shadow | Hmm |
| 18:18.02 | red_shadow | I'm trying to ssh to the openmoko 2009 (being unable to find a shell on it). However, "openmoko" nor variants of it are not accepted as the password |
| 18:18.09 | red_shadow | The wiki does not seem to indicate the default root password? |
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| 18:20.09 | red_shadow | Sorry to take up your time - I changed the theme to illume and the shell is there |
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