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| 03:15.30 | linuxxr | is there a difference between .ubi and .ubifs? |
| 03:16.12 | linuxxr | 2011testing shr full ubifs is only 151 kbs |
| 03:23.50 | linuxxr | shr rc3 full is trash |
| 03:24.05 | linuxxr | shr rcc3 lite is ok |
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| 03:47.39 | linuxxr | neither one will boot= kernel panic |
| 03:48.35 | linuxxr | wont boot with older kernel eeither |
| 03:51.24 | linuxxr | she rc3 2011testing is broken |
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| 17:21.02 | linuxxr | shr-testing2011.1/images/om-gta02 |
| 17:21.12 | linuxxr | anybody using these? |
| 17:25.57 | Heinervdm | linuxxr: me |
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| 17:28.53 | linuxxr | i tried the latest an got kernel panic |
| 17:29.18 | Heinervdm | for me it's booting fine |
| 17:29.24 | linuxxr | did yours work at first boot? |
| 17:29.29 | Heinervdm | yes |
| 17:29.43 | Heinervdm | you flashed to nand? |
| 17:30.23 | linuxxr | yyup |
| 17:30.32 | Heinervdm | with dfu-utils? |
| 17:30.34 | linuxxr | i try again |
| 17:30.38 | linuxxr | yup |
| 17:30.51 | linuxxr | which kernel did u use? |
| 17:31.03 | Heinervdm | i flashed it to my sd card |
| 17:31.26 | linuxxr | ic |
| 17:31.29 | aloniv | Still using the older version...does evopedia work? |
| 17:31.34 | Heinervdm | the oe16 kernel is the right one |
| 17:31.40 | linuxxr | ok |
| 17:31.51 | Heinervdm | aloniv: i haven't tried it |
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| 17:33.04 | aloniv | Heinervdm: thanks for replying. Evopedia doesn't work that well on unstable which is why I kept testing. If it doesn;t work in the new version there's no need for me to upgrade (it's on an 8 GB card). |
| 17:33.08 | linuxxr | did u use lite or full? |
| 17:33.31 | Heinervdm | linuxxr: i use the lite image |
| 17:34.00 | Heinervdm | linuxxr: in my opinion the problem is dfu-utils |
| 17:34.08 | Heinervdm | it doesn't work right |
| 17:34.33 | Heinervdm | aloniv: there was an update for evopedia in unstable yesterday |
| 17:34.38 | linuxxr | the full image is only 151kbs |
| 17:35.23 | Heinervdm | linuxxr: then there is sth wrong with your download |
| 17:35.41 | Heinervdm | on the buildhost it's 117MB |
| 17:35.44 | aloniv | OK I'll try it. Sadly SHR doesn;t actually work for me as a phone (I can;t receive SMS messages - I posted a bug about this) so I will only try it later. |
| 17:36.24 | Heinervdm | aloniv: i'm not up to date with shr-unstable |
| 17:36.26 | linuxxr | i dl 4 times an it come up 151 kbs every time |
| 17:36.35 | Heinervdm | linuxxr: strange |
| 17:36.52 | linuxxr | yup |
| 17:37.05 | linuxxr | lite seems to download ok |
| 17:37.06 | Heinervdm | linuxxr: i just downloaded it and i got 117MB |
| 17:37.14 | linuxxr | hmmm |
| 17:37.29 | Heinervdm | you are downloading this one? http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing2011.1/images/om-gta02/shr-full-eglibc-ipk-rc3-20110220-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 17:37.34 | aloniv | Heinervdm: both testing and unstable didn't work for me for receiving SMS messages. I have a new version of unstable (probably less than a month old). |
| 17:37.39 | linuxxr | yup |
| 17:38.37 | aloniv | Heinervdm: At the moment I only use SHR testing to read books and view wikipedia via evopedia, so if evopedia doesn;t work I won't upgrade. |
| 17:38.54 | Heinervdm | aloniv: i've seen the bugreport, but i couldn't find anything strange in your logs |
| 17:39.13 | linuxxr | well i used the ubifs |
| 17:39.42 | linuxxr | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing2011.1/images/om-gta02/shr-full-eglibc-ipk-rc3-20110220-om-gta02.rootfs.ubifs |
| 17:41.21 | aloniv | Heinervdm: it might be because it's a 3G SIM card. Either way other distros do support receiving SMS messages (e.g. QtMoko and Om 2009). |
| 17:41.40 | linuxxr | qt works well |
| 17:41.55 | Heinervdm | linuxxr: i tried that one too, and it's the right size too |
| 17:42.02 | linuxxr | wow |
| 17:42.07 | linuxxr | wathell |
| 17:42.25 | linuxxr | y maybe me temp files |
| 17:42.46 | Heinervdm | mickey|bbl: can you have a look at aloniv's logs? He doesn't recive SMS messages: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/raw-attachment/ticket/1282/log.zip |
| 17:44.12 | Heinervdm | aloniv: perhaps mickey|bbl can see sth in these logs |
| 17:45.00 | aloniv | Heinervdm: Hopefully. Until then I won't be able to use SHR other than for non phone purposes. |
| 17:46.19 | aloniv | I really like QtMoko though as a phone. I wrote a Hebrew keyboard for it. Where should I post it? |
| 17:47.03 | aloniv | (The QtMoko website is down.) |
| 17:47.06 | Heinervdm | aloniv: ping radekp and ask him :) |
| 17:47.12 | linuxxr | yup |
| 17:47.25 | TomaszD | aloniv, visit #qtmoko and ask radekp |
| 17:47.34 | aloniv | I'm in that room. |
| 17:49.33 | aloniv | Hopefully other Hebrew speakers won't need to write the keyboard themselves :) |
| 17:50.05 | Heinervdm | aloniv: an other possibility is to send it to the community ML |
| 17:51.37 | aloniv | Heinervdm: it is just two lines of text that could be added to a file. |
| 17:51.52 | aloniv | I'm off. Will be back later. |
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| 19:43.30 | geekabit | just received his 2nd hand openmoko freerunner from ebay |
| 19:43.37 | geekabit | and i'm not sure it's fully working |
| 19:43.56 | PaulFertser | geekabit: how do you tell? |
| 19:44.23 | geekabit | Well, I just installed SHR, that seems to be working |
| 19:44.35 | geekabit | but I can't get an usb connection. |
| 19:44.58 | geekabit | When I plug the phone into my computer, lsusb doesn't show it. |
| 19:45.13 | geekabit | not even when the phone is in nor/uboot mode |
| 19:45.17 | geekabit | is that normal? |
| 19:46.18 | geekabit | Charging from usb seems to work, though. |
| 19:46.42 | geekabit | I don't have the cables to test usb host-mode on the phone. |
| 19:47.32 | PaulFertser | geekabit: no, that's not normal, are you sure your cable and port are ok? |
| 19:47.58 | geekabit | yep, other devices do work. I tried another port and cable, but the problem remains. |
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| 19:48.29 | geekabit | also, the battery status is unknown. Every setting is at 0 or n/a. |
| 19:48.35 | geekabit | maybe the phone is a bit dodgy after all |
| 19:48.39 | PaulFertser | geekabit: is it the original OM battery? |
| 19:49.00 | geekabit | it's a standard Nokia battery. I have no idea what originally came with the phone. |
| 19:49.26 | PaulFertser | geekabit: standard Nokia is not compatible with the advanced battery driver, so you have to use other driver. |
| 19:49.30 | geekabit | on the battery: Nokia BL-4C |
| 19:49.43 | PaulFertser | ~batteryfaq |
| 19:49.43 | apt | i heard batteryfaq is http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Battery_Questions_and_Answers |
| 19:49.58 | geekabit | ah, okay. That explains the odd readings |
| 19:50.17 | PaulFertser | geekabit: the particular advice on how to switch to the dumb driver is out-of-date but i've no idea how to do it properly in SHR nowadays. |
| 19:50.24 | geekabit | thanks |
| 19:51.00 | geekabit | oh, I will manage. |
| 19:52.00 | PaulFertser | Among nokia batteries, BL-6C or the latest incarnation of BL-5C is recommended, as they have more capacity. |
| 19:53.06 | geekabit | Ah, I was just reading that as well. |
| 19:54.00 | geekabit | One more usb question, when should the phone be visible in lsusb? |
| 19:54.17 | PaulFertser | geekabit: sure... probably you have a damaged usb connector in the device :( |
| 19:54.18 | geekabit | Is it visible all the time, or do I have to enable anything? |
| 19:54.49 | geekabit | I was already thinking about opening it |
| 19:55.11 | PaulFertser | geekabit: in both nor and nand u-boot it should be visible all the time, same holds true for the default SHR configuration. |
| 19:55.20 | geekabit | I wanted to double-check that this behaviour isn't normal |
| 19:55.36 | PaulFertser | geekabit: how much did you pay for it? |
| 19:55.40 | geekabit | okay, thanks |
| 19:55.48 | geekabit | 50 GBP on ebay.co.uk |
| 19:56.06 | geekabit | It was sold with a broken android install. |
| 19:56.43 | geekabit | The guy who sold it got it in a bulk electronics deal, so I don't know where it came from |
| 19:57.13 | geekabit | Fortunately for me it seems to be mostly working |
| 19:57.49 | PaulFertser | geekabit: yeah, apart from the usb connector it seems. |
| 19:58.36 | geekabit | Maybe it's a loose connection, we'll see in a minute |
| 19:58.59 | PaulFertser | geekabit: the openmoko wiki has nice disassembly instructions and other useful stuff. |
| 19:59.24 | geekabit | I was just looking for it :) |
| 19:59.29 | geekabit | I've been surfing the wiki all day |
| 20:00.03 | PaulFertser | geekabit: one important thing: clearly understand the difference between booting NOR and NAND. |
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| 20:01.04 | geekabit | I think (hope) I understand. SHR lives on my usd card. All I wanted to do is flash Qi as bootloader |
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| 20:21.03 | geekabit | the pins inside the mini-b connector seem bent. I fixed is more or less. One of these day't I should replace the connector. |
| 20:21.21 | geekabit | Now to re-assemble the phone... |
| 20:22.57 | geekabit | phew, that's one tight little package. And I mean the phone by that. |
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| 20:25.00 | geekabit | victory: Bus 006 Device 002: ID 1d50:5119 OpenMoko, Inc. |
| 20:25.22 | geekabit | PaulFertser, thanks for the support |
| 20:25.34 | geekabit | if you're even near Amsterdam I'll buy you a beer |
| 20:26.52 | geekabit | oh, that goes for all of you guys |
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| 20:31.00 | linuxxr | still kernel panic on shr 2011testing latest |
| 20:36.17 | PaulFertser | geekabit: welcome. |
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| 20:37.04 | PaulFertser | geekabit: Amsterdam? Mmm. I hope i'll get there sooner or later. |
| 20:37.35 | PaulFertser | :) |
| 20:39.14 | geekabit | PaulFertser: if you're even in the neighbourhood, give me a call / send me a pm. We always have a place to crash. |
| 20:39.30 | geekabit | is also a member of couchsurfing |
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| 20:39.55 | PaulFertser | geekabit: thanks :) |
| 20:40.10 | geekabit | you're welcome |
| 20:45.32 | PaulFertser | geekabit: i should have suggested you to take a look at the mic area to see if there's a buzz fix applied. |
| 20:45.59 | PaulFertser | geekabit: do you have the screws already in place? (in fact i'm using my device for ~two years without any screws) |
| 20:45.59 | geekabit | PaulFertser: I haven't seen any rework. It's an A5 board. |
| 20:46.30 | geekabit | hehe. Yes, but I can always open it up again. |
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| 20:46.58 | PaulFertser | geekabit: have you ever soldered SMD components? |
| 20:47.13 | geekabit | There's a buzz fix, right? Maybe I'll have an smd soldering evening next week and swap my usb-mini-b and do some rework |
| 20:47.21 | PaulFertser | geekabit: if yes, and if you want to use the freerunner for GSM voice calls, i highly recommend doing a buzzfix. |
| 20:47.27 | geekabit | yep, I used to work in electonics |
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| 20:47.53 | PaulFertser | geekabit: ok, then http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf |
| 20:48.13 | PaulFertser | geekabit: if you want to use it as a portable player, you'll also need to perform some kind of bass fix. |
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| 20:48.31 | geekabit | Ah, I've heard of that one as well. |
| 20:48.44 | PaulFertser | geekabit: and to extend battery life in suspend-to-ram you can do the so called #1024 fix (changing one 0805 cap). |
| 20:49.10 | geekabit | sounds like an evening full of soldering fun |
| 20:49.32 | PaulFertser | geekabit: that all depend on your usecases of course. |
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| 20:51.37 | geekabit | I haven't really planned that far ahead. I wanted one of those openmoko phones even since they came out. But I either had no budget or had too many other projects going on |
| 20:51.56 | geekabit | and then, last week, I found one for cheap on ebay. |
| 20:53.09 | geekabit | so I'll try using it as phone for now. |
| 20:54.04 | geekabit | But I think I will apply all the fixes while I'm at it. |
| 20:55.42 | PaulFertser | geekabit: sounds like a serious approach :) |
| 20:56.47 | geekabit | I have worked too much on sofware lately, I can't wait to fire my soldering iron up again. |
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