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06:18.17*** topic/#openmoko is Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware users | WikiReader channel #openmoko-wikireader | Developers channel #openmoko-cdevel | German folks channel #openmoko-de | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org + http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | logs http://is.gd/fiQwM | distro-specific channels: #qtmoko, #android-on-freerunner, #openmoko-debian
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10:16.21|Animeking|So, its a mobile phone yet why don't I ever read about its capability of talking to people? o.O (Not trolling, just something I've never heard anyone talk about).
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10:25.57lindi-|Animeking|: I've filed several bug reports about that
10:26.06|Animeking|:/
10:26.25|Animeking|So, it doesn't have the capability to call people?
10:26.56[Rui]lindi-: I got a new WS situation coming up since 20110211
10:27.13[Rui]lindi-: sometimes, I get that WS when coming out of suspend.
10:28.12[Rui]|Animeking|: what doesn't?
10:29.06lindi-|Animeking|: do you have the capability to read bug reports? ;)
10:29.35|Animeking|Where are the bugs reported than :|
10:30.00|Animeking|Hmm
10:31.02|Animeking|i see a wiki with a few nice things on it but no place for bug reports lol...unless its in one of the other links
10:32.37|Animeking|it was in the docs :/
10:33.10lindi-|Animeking|: yeah e.g. http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2335
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10:38.53[Rui]|Animeking|: if you mean about the Freerunner, I use it as my main phone, so yes it has the capability to be used to talk to people.
10:39.02|Animeking|Ah
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10:39.32|Animeking|Yeah, thats what i meant. :/ I just recall seeing a lot of youtube comments about people asking about its capability as a phone yet no response lol
10:39.45|Animeking|So, all the hardware is open, right? o_O
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10:41.01[Rui]|Animeking|: depends on the definition... it's the most open phone, yes. but the hardware is obsolete and 4 of it's 5 computers depend on proprietary firmware. at least the main operating system has a clean way to interact with them, so it's a lot better in that regard.
10:41.27|Animeking|ah
10:41.53[Rui]wifi, gsm, gps and bt use private firmware loaded
10:43.02lindi-[Rui]: I'm not sure if AT is particularly clean way :)
10:44.00[Rui]lindi-: a lot cleaner than having a private driver
10:44.19lindi-[Rui]: you mean non-free?
10:44.25[Rui]yup
10:51.14adibloludev doesn't detect SD card, any way to fix it?
10:51.29adiblolafter manually mknod'ing everything works.
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11:21.24adiblolseems that GSM activity destabilizes my SD card, is it possible?
11:24.09lindi-adiblol: surely
11:24.44adibloland it is dependent of kernel, too.
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11:30.46adiblolhard to reproduce.
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14:45.25adiblolxserver-xorg-video-glamo : Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.6.99.900) but it is not going to be installed
14:45.37adiblolxserver-xorg-core2:1.9.4-1
14:45.42adiblol"too new" xorg-core?
14:50.25adiblolwtf? no problem on PC.
14:50.34adiblolaptitude -s install xserver-xorg-video-glamo -> Would download/install/remove packages.
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15:10.12lindi-adiblol: that's been on debian-x I think
15:22.00adibloldowngrading xorg helped
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17:20.41Broamhi PBeck
17:22.55PBeckhi Broam
17:25.18Broamwhat's up?
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17:36.50PBeckBroam: not much :) My n900 fits best for me ;)
17:37.14PBeckBroam: but i follow openmoko ;) I hope the best for gta04 and more :)
17:37.17BroamI'm using my HTC magic for two reasons: GSM 850 and bluetooth response on suspend
17:37.32BroamI like my Moko though, and shoul dprobably use it again soon
17:38.09PBeck;)
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20:25.11adibloldoes anyone know how to enable printing init messages to tty on debian on freerunner?
20:25.18adiblolprinting kernel messages work.
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20:48.17pespinadiblol, yo have to increase the kenrle debug level  afaij
20:48.20pespin*afaik
20:48.25adiblolno.
20:48.41adiblolthis only causes kernel messages to show
20:48.57adiblolinit messages arent being printed.
20:49.12pespinno idea then sorry ;)
20:50.00adiblolqtmoko (based on debian lenny) shows them, but every 'newer' debian install i tried dont.
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21:32.36adiblolkernel seems to ignore init's output and doesn't redirect it to tty.
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21:41.00adiblolworks! after adding console=tty0 to kernel command line
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