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| 09:14.31 | Sazius | I just got an OpenMoko FreeRunner, what is the most _stable_ distro available for it at the moment? |
| 09:14.57 | gena2x | Sazius: try qtmoko and shr-testing |
| 09:15.26 | Sazius | I'm currently running the Debian based QtMoko v31, it's OK, but not super stable |
| 09:15.26 | tim_abell | i wouldn't bother with shr-testing, jump straight to shr-unstable till someone does a new release of testing |
| 09:15.50 | gena2x | Sazius: i think it's best thing you can get |
| 09:15.54 | tim_abell | well, more precisely i don't bother with shr-t |
| 09:16.07 | gena2x | Sazius: help fixing problems to get something better :) |
| 09:16.10 | Sazius | e.g. while playing with the web browser the phone screen went totally white and only solution was to remove battery :) |
| 09:16.35 | gena2x | Sazius: white? sounds like serious bug |
| 09:16.55 | PaulFertser | gena2x: can you please check if http://osdir.com/ml/general/ doesn't return 403 for you? I wonder if they banned all ru ips :/ |
| 09:17.00 | Sazius | I tried shr-testing before that, but I preferred QtMoko because it was faster. |
| 09:17.13 | gena2x | PaulFertser: hi, Paul, 403 here |
| 09:17.18 | PaulFertser | gena2x: ok, thanks :) |
| 09:17.21 | PaulFertser | And hi |
| 09:17.24 | tim_abell | shr-u is a fair bit faster than shr-t |
| 09:17.43 | gena2x | question were 'most stable' not fastest :) |
| 09:17.56 | gena2x | i think without debug info all in reasonable fast |
| 09:18.02 | gena2x | *is |
| 09:18.32 | gena2x | ok, going to sky, gl all :) |
| 09:18.46 | Sazius | I didn't have stability problems with shr-t, but didn't use it for long |
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| 09:19.16 | Sazius | maybe I should try shr-unstable as well :) |
| 09:19.52 | Sazius | what distros are people in general using here? are you using freerunner as your main/only phone? |
| 09:22.26 | gena2x | (still here) qtmoko v31 + custom kernel |
| 09:22.36 | Sazius | gena2x: yeah, it's happened I think twice already that the screen goes totally white, like it's "blinking out", power-button not responsive, have to pull battery out |
| 09:23.09 | Sazius | gena2x: ok, cool, any reason why you have custom kernel? |
| 09:23.27 | gena2x | cause i am doing some kernel development |
| 09:23.28 | tim_abell | shr-u is definitely 'better' than shr-t, and #openmoko is quite good for sorting out any current issues |
| 09:24.03 | tim_abell | i have 2x shr-u, one on internal flash, and one on sd, that way i can alternate and have a fallback if one breaks |
| 09:24.21 | tim_abell | i did have shr-t + shr-u but there are too many outstanding issues in shr-t for me |
| 09:24.32 | Sazius | OK, perhaps I should try shr-u as well then. |
| 09:24.41 | gena2x | really i have plain debian on sd and qtmoko partially on nand partially on sd |
| 09:25.12 | gena2x | FR is fun if you want to do development |
| 09:25.20 | gena2x | try fixing some qtmoko bugs :) |
| 09:25.26 | Sazius | BTW, how do you boot alternatly from sd and nand? Just using the AUX+power-button thing? |
| 09:25.36 | gena2x | i am using u-boot |
| 09:25.48 | gena2x | do not use nor u-boot |
| 09:25.51 | tim_abell | boots from sd by default, tap the aux button after the first red flash to skip sd and boot from internal |
| 09:25.57 | PaulFertser | Sazius: i suggest to never use the NOR u-boot for actually booting and working. |
| 09:26.14 | gena2x | bootloader inits much hardware |
| 09:26.20 | tim_abell | it should vibrate once to tell you it skipped a kernel |
| 09:26.23 | PaulFertser | gena2x: i'm still not convinced qi is a bad thing. |
| 09:27.10 | PaulFertser | gena2x: u-boot is really huge and bloated |
| 09:27.17 | gena2x | PaulFertser: it works, so it can't be really too bad |
| 09:28.22 | PaulFertser | gena2x: in fact qi got new life on i.mx and lpc3xxx-something platforms. |
| 09:28.35 | PaulFertser | gena2x: http://warmcat.com/_wp/2010/11/29/new-nxp-lpc32x0-in-qi-bootloader/ |
| 09:29.05 | PaulFertser | gena2x: anyway, go skiing while the sun is still shining :) |
| 09:29.19 | gena2x | PaulFertser: i just have to wait :) |
| 09:29.34 | gena2x | PaulFertser: a bit, so can talk |
| 09:29.59 | PaulFertser | gena2x: then please skim that Andy's post and draw your conclusion :) |
| 09:31.59 | gena2x | PaulFertser: ok, i'll think that to say while crossing Finnish Gulf :) |
| 09:32.08 | PaulFertser | gena2x: see you |
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| 15:03.01 | FreeNslaved | http://www.stansberryresearch.com/pro/1011PSIENDVD/PPSILCAE/PR |
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| 15:31.35 | PaulFertser | FreeNslaved: again? |
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| 15:56.51 | FreeNslaved | PaulFertser....sorry ...i found some things interesting..thought i would share....perhaps i shall find another room...take care...be safe ........... something big is going on.... 100 tons of dead fish wash ashore in Brazil, Hundreds of DEAD Black Birds Found In Louisiana Arkansas, Greeted by 20 Miles of Dead Fish In 2011, Bee Population in Freefall Risk to Human Food Production, More Dead Birds Found In Kentucky Identical To Birds in |
| 15:56.51 | FreeNslaved | Arkansas Media Downplays Find.......oh yeah and the bat population is dying off in record numbers. |
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| 15:58.10 | tim_abell | FreeNslaved should be listening to noagenda, not trolling oss channels |
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| 16:43.29 | *** topic/#openmoko is Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware users | WikiReader channel #openmoko-wikireader | Developers channel #openmoko-cdevel | German folks channel #openmoko-de | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org + http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | logs http://is.gd/fiQwM | distro-specific channels: #qtmoko, #android-on-freerunner, #openmoko-debian |
| 16:43.49 | gena2x | we have local sea here also :) |
| 16:44.59 | gena2x | so 10 mins, then 7 km on ice and you in place where only 10 people per weekend are walking |
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| 22:03.57 | tim_abell | http://pastebin.com/rzHj1xd9 |
| 22:04.03 | tim_abell | pygps seems to be busted |
| 22:04.16 | tim_abell | fresh install of shr-u |
| 22:05.10 | tim_abell | python-pygps - 2.95-r10.0.6 - Python bindings to gpsd |
| 22:08.03 | tim_abell | seems to happen as soon as i get a fix |
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| 22:12.34 | tim_abell | root@om-gta02 ~ # opkg install python-datetime |
| 22:12.34 | tim_abell | Package python-datetime (2.6.5-ml12.2.6) installed in root is up to date. |
| 22:12.36 | tim_abell | hrm |
| 22:13.19 | lindi- | missing import? |
| 22:15.42 | tim_abell | root@om-gta02 ~ # grep -iIr isotime /usr/lib/python2.6/ |
| 22:15.43 | tim_abell | ... |
| 22:15.43 | tim_abell | /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gps/misc.py:def isotime(s): |
| 22:15.43 | tim_abell | /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gps/gps.py: self.utc = isotime(self.fix.time) |
| 22:15.43 | tim_abell | root@om-gta02 ~ # |
| 22:16.13 | tim_abell | hmm, you could be right |
| 22:16.20 | tim_abell | don't see misc in gps.py |
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| 22:30.36 | tim_abell | hrm, misc is part of the package |
| 22:30.47 | tim_abell | maybe my import is wrong |
| 22:32.29 | tim_abell | from gps import * |
| 22:32.33 | tim_abell | ahhh |
| 22:32.47 | tim_abell | rather than import gps |
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| 22:42.08 | tim_abell | that was an annoying bug, cos it only breaks when you get gps lock, i.e. when outside and not near a pc! |
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| 22:58.12 | tim_abell | hrm, still not solved |
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