| 00:02.28 | *** join/#openmoko straszek (straszek@h-87-199-65-17.dolsatbelchatow.pl) |
| 00:13.04 | *** join/#openmoko straszek (straszek@h-87-199-65-17.dolsatbelchatow.pl) |
| 00:16.34 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@user-12lcboo.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 00:19.19 | *** join/#openmoko kkb1101 (~kkb110@user-12lcboo.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 00:19.54 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@user-12lcboo.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 00:32.52 | *** join/#openmoko hipitihop (~denis@202.153.71.87) |
| 00:35.50 | *** join/#openmoko straszek (straszek@h-87-199-65-17.dolsatbelchatow.pl) |
| 00:48.46 | *** join/#openmoko straszek (straszek@h-87-199-65-17.dolsatbelchatow.pl) |
| 01:01.45 | *** join/#openmoko straszek (straszek@h-87-199-65-17.dolsatbelchatow.pl) |
| 01:12.30 | *** join/#openmoko straszek (straszek@h-87-199-65-17.dolsatbelchatow.pl) |
| 01:13.52 | *** join/#openmoko SpeedEvil1 (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 01:23.11 | *** join/#openmoko straszek (straszek@h-87-199-65-17.dolsatbelchatow.pl) |
| 01:36.27 | *** join/#openmoko straszek (straszek@h-87-199-65-17.dolsatbelchatow.pl) |
| 02:13.14 | *** join/#openmoko DieMumiee (~DieMumiee@p579CB6C2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:13.23 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@user-12lcboo.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 02:32.18 | *** part/#openmoko Broam (~brian@c-69-255-119-127.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 03:28.14 | *** join/#openmoko fgau (~fgau@webbox1220.server-home.net) |
| 03:28.24 | *** join/#openmoko Amorphous (jan@unaffiliated/amorphous) |
| 03:33.50 | *** join/#openmoko ferluszt (~peter@p5DD28503.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:38.23 | *** join/#openmoko fgau (~fgau@webbox1220.server-home.net) |
| 03:44.11 | *** join/#openmoko SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 03:45.54 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@user-12lcboo.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 03:56.36 | *** join/#openmoko pcfe (~pcfe@a88-115-8-113.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 03:56.36 | *** join/#openmoko pcfe (~pcfe@redhat/pcfe) |
| 03:58.24 | *** join/#openmoko amarsh04 (~amarsh04@2001:44b8:61::2d) |
| 04:11.19 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@user-12lcboo.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 04:11.42 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@user-12lcboo.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 04:12.05 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@user-12lcboo.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 04:13.26 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@user-12lcboo.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 04:21.06 | *** join/#openmoko CVirus (~Satan@82.201.174.124) |
| 04:30.38 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@user-12lcboo.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 04:48.40 | *** join/#openmoko FxChiP (~FxChiP@99-72-237-154.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:53.30 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@user-12lcboo.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 04:59.37 | *** join/#openmoko EsEhAr (~chatzilla@115.167.0.38) |
| 05:03.41 | EsEhAr | hello everyone |
| 05:04.01 | EsEhAr | i m stuck with audio recording on openmokoo |
| 05:04.11 | EsEhAr | tried dictator and voicenote |
| 05:04.15 | EsEhAr | but not success :( |
| 06:07.59 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@user-12lcboo.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 07:44.46 | *** join/#openmoko Sup3rkiddo (~sudharsh@unaffiliated/sudharsh) |
| 07:58.58 | *** join/#openmoko fove48 (~fove48@41.249.88.65) |
| 08:21.47 | *** part/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@user-12lcboo.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 08:35.27 | *** join/#openmoko DieMumiee (~DieMumiee@p579CB6C2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 08:53.57 | *** join/#openmoko badcloud (~raanan@DSL217-132-222-218.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 09:05.11 | *** join/#openmoko Kame2 (~manuel@port-92-196-57-10.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 09:21.38 | *** join/#openmoko DieMumiee (~DieMumiee@p579CB6C2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:29.38 | *** join/#openmoko ferluszt (~peter@p5DD28503.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:37.21 | *** join/#openmoko Kame2 (~manuel@port-92-196-57-10.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 10:07.04 | *** join/#openmoko DieMumiee (~DieMumiee@p579CB6C2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:07.28 | *** join/#openmoko Kame2 (~manuel@port-92-196-57-10.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 10:09.54 | *** join/#openmoko pH5 (~ph5@e178213049.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 10:23.36 | *** join/#openmoko lool (~lool@debian/developer/lool) |
| 10:44.22 | *** join/#openmoko pa4wdh (~pa4wdh@lt30598-lnx.ipv6.pa4wdh.nl.eu.org) |
| 10:54.41 | *** join/#openmoko DieMumiee (~DieMumiee@p579CB6C2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:04.36 | *** join/#openmoko wagnerf (~wagnerf@vib38-2-78-226-236-29.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:17.29 | *** join/#openmoko oliver_ (~oliver@p579819AD.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:23.42 | *** join/#openmoko zedstar (~john@cpc1-haye16-2-0-cust48.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 12:23.42 | *** join/#openmoko zedstar (~john@fsf/member/zedstar) |
| 12:23.45 | *** join/#openmoko ferluszt (~peter@p5DD28503.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:26.15 | *** join/#openmoko gena2x (~gena2x@bsdmn.com) |
| 12:46.13 | *** join/#openmoko PBeck (~PBeck@unixboard/users/pbeck) |
| 12:46.18 | PBeck | hey |
| 12:46.34 | *** join/#openmoko DieMumie1 (~DieMumiee@p579CB6C2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:07.25 | *** join/#openmoko SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 13:09.32 | *** join/#openmoko naeg (~naeg@194.208.239.170) |
| 13:19.11 | *** join/#openmoko ALoGeNo (~alogeno@unaffiliated/alogeno) |
| 13:34.47 | *** join/#openmoko radekp_ (~radek@63.120.broadband10.iol.cz) |
| 13:41.15 | *** join/#openmoko spydon (~spydon@nl103-146-152.student.uu.se) |
| 14:02.10 | *** join/#openmoko Sup3rkiddo (~sudharsh@unaffiliated/sudharsh) |
| 14:04.51 | *** join/#openmoko fove48 (~fove48@41.249.98.11) |
| 14:34.53 | *** join/#openmoko pabs3 (~pabs@d122-104-112-131.per9.wa.optusnet.com.au) |
| 14:46.40 | *** join/#openmoko ferluszt (~peter@p5DD28503.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:59.34 | *** join/#openmoko kirun (~kirun@78-86-154-194.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 15:02.31 | *** join/#openmoko Bane^ (bane@shelli.fi) |
| 15:10.07 | *** join/#openmoko judge_gregg (~greg@lib59-7-88-185-52-126.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:13.21 | *** join/#openmoko dos1 (~dos@unaffiliated/dos1) |
| 15:15.14 | *** join/#openmoko Bane^ (bane@shelli.fi) |
| 15:15.33 | *** join/#openmoko chomwitt (~chomwitt@ppp-94-66-136-162.home.otenet.gr) |
| 15:25.41 | *** join/#openmoko Bane^ (bane@shelli.fi) |
| 15:27.05 | *** join/#openmoko Martix (~martix@4.177.broadband3.iol.cz) |
| 15:56.03 | *** join/#openmoko [Rui] (~Rui@62.169.119.212.rev.optimus.pt) |
| 16:12.43 | *** join/#openmoko judge_gregg (~greg@lib59-7-88-185-52-126.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:13.47 | *** join/#openmoko ferluszt (~peter@p5DD294B0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:20.19 | *** join/#openmoko glow (~glow@78-60-140-206.static.zebra.lt) |
| 17:27.02 | *** join/#openmoko playya_ (~playya@unaffiliated/playya) |
| 17:32.33 | *** join/#openmoko badcloud (~raanan@DSL217-132-222-218.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 17:40.36 | *** join/#openmoko geaaru (~geaaru@95.237.222.220) |
| 18:06.52 | *** join/#openmoko azalyn (~junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 18:13.55 | *** join/#openmoko gregg_ (~greg@lib59-7-88-185-52-126.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:25.27 | *** join/#openmoko fove48 (~fove48@41.248.205.216) |
| 18:33.36 | *** join/#openmoko risca_deb (~risca@dynamic-adsl-94-36-97-118.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 18:36.07 | *** join/#openmoko pespin (~pespin@167.pool85-58-26.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 19:03.55 | *** join/#openmoko kirun (~kirun@78-86-154-194.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 19:06.35 | *** join/#openmoko badcloud (~raanan@DSL217-132-222-218.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 19:07.05 | *** join/#openmoko ferluszt (~peter@p5DD294B0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:29.07 | gena2x | SpeedEvil: hi, i've read specs a bit more about pll lock time. it turned out that lock time is 300..1000 us, regulated by user. it's unclean for me why it should be set to something more than 300us which is specified as 'lock time' sheet. this timeout automatically added than 'changing FCLK HCLK PCLK', so for me now moments of switch is unlean from datasheet |
| 19:30.02 | gena2x | 300us look good for serial as it is less 5% at 115200. |
| 19:55.24 | *** join/#openmoko Zorkman (~Zorkman@78-22-123-127.access.telenet.be) |
| 20:00.19 | *** join/#openmoko kirun_ (~kirun@78-86-154-194.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 20:06.28 | *** join/#openmoko fcc123 (~fcc123@p5B212291.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:17.55 | *** join/#openmoko kirun (~kirun@78-86-154-194.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 20:22.27 | *** join/#openmoko risca_deb (~risca@dynamic-adsl-94-36-126-197.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 20:26.08 | SpeedEvil | gena2x: Umm - 10^6/115200 = 9ish |
| 20:28.23 | SpeedEvil | The way the PLL works is that you have a voltage controlled oscillator, an input clock source, a divider, and a correlator. The VCO is fed from the output of the correlator. This compares the output frequency divided by the divider with the input frequency. If it's less, it turns the VCO up, if it's more, it turns the VCO down. If it's exact, it keeps it constant. |
| 20:28.28 | SpeedEvil | And sets a 'lock' bit |
| 20:28.36 | SpeedEvil | typically |
| 20:28.49 | SpeedEvil | changing the divider is instant. |
| 20:29.39 | SpeedEvil | But this leaves the VCO set at the wrong frequency, and it takes a significant time to slew, during which time the output frequency is undefined until it locks. |
| 20:30.21 | SpeedEvil | So 300 us @ 115200 = 34 bit-times, or 4 chars. |
| 20:30.41 | SpeedEvil | During wich time the output frequency is slewing from the old to the new |
| 20:46.30 | *** join/#openmoko kirun (~kirun@78-86-154-194.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 20:55.03 | *** join/#openmoko airzimmy (~airzimmy@94-226-244-220.access.telenet.be) |
| 20:59.03 | *** join/#openmoko Bane^ (bane@shelli.fi) |
| 21:05.11 | *** join/#openmoko Bane^ (bane@shelli.fi) |
| 21:05.21 | gena2x | SpeedEvil: ah, yes, sure. 115200 is 8.6us (i am too rare writing 'micro' and 'milli' in English, so often doing totally stupid mistakes) |
| 21:06.32 | gena2x | SpeedEvil: so what is purpose of programmable 'locktime' register if it is automatic? |
| 21:07.41 | gena2x | SpeedEvil: limit corellator time? |
| 21:08.41 | SpeedEvil | The idea is so that you have a stable clockspeed when you come back. |
| 21:09.02 | gena2x | yes, i got it |
| 21:09.08 | SpeedEvil | Depending on stuff - vcc, temperature, slew, the PLL takes a longer or shorter period to lock |
| 21:10.53 | gena2x | but if it automatic (according to your descriptions, it locks then correllator finds that clock is 'exact'), and then sets 'lock' bit (connecting arm core to clock), so what is purpose of user-programmable locktime register? |
| 21:11.41 | gena2x | (according to manual it is 300us-1000us) |
| 21:12.03 | gena2x | it has PLL block diagram also |
| 21:12.56 | SpeedEvil | I'm unsure if it indicates lock, and does anything specific in that case, it's possible it may require the user to set the locktime according to some requirements. |
| 21:13.05 | SpeedEvil | I haven't read the doc recently |
| 21:13.19 | gena2x | ok, thanks for descriptions anyway |
| 21:15.47 | *** join/#openmoko vanous (~vanous@194.228.223.3) |
| 21:22.56 | *** part/#openmoko pabs3 (~pabs@d122-104-112-131.per9.wa.optusnet.com.au) |
| 21:31.06 | *** join/#openmoko risca_deb (~risca@dynamic-adsl-94-36-136-62.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 21:31.19 | gena2x | SpeedEvil: so, really, nothing can be done, and actual problem is that UEXTCLK is not connected... |
| 21:32.30 | SpeedEvil | It depends. You can do the 'pause all uarts' solution. |
| 21:32.54 | gena2x | it will skip GPS data... |
| 21:33.30 | SpeedEvil | possibly - does it not do flow control? |
| 21:34.18 | gena2x | no cts/rts on gps :( |
| 21:34.37 | *** join/#openmoko Vegar (~vegar@209-20-88-100.slicehost.net) |
| 21:34.55 | gena2x | cts/rts for UART1 (gps) shares pins with UART2(console) |
| 21:36.19 | gena2x | so only way is to loose data |
| 21:37.22 | gena2x | or may be pause transmitter? hm... |
| 21:37.32 | *** part/#openmoko Vegar_ (~vegar@209-20-88-100.slicehost.net) |
| 21:43.27 | *** join/#openmoko Vegar_ (~vegar@209-20-88-100.slicehost.net) |
| 21:46.38 | *** join/#openmoko vanous1 (~vanous@194.228.223.3) |
| 21:47.03 | *** join/#openmoko pespin (~pespin@167.pool85-58-26.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 21:48.11 | *** join/#openmoko vanous (~vanous@194.228.223.3) |
| 21:55.03 | *** join/#openmoko nibbo (nibbo@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-glgrgjkmrqmtybvr) |
| 21:59.41 | *** join/#openmoko vanous (~vanous@194.228.223.3) |
| 22:00.24 | *** join/#openmoko Bane^ (bane@shelli.fi) |
| 22:01.56 | *** join/#openmoko risca_deb (~risca@dynamic-adsl-94-36-99-200.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 22:03.44 | *** join/#openmoko Vegar (~vegar@209-20-88-100.slicehost.net) |
| 22:04.44 | *** join/#openmoko pH5 (~ph5@e178213049.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 22:17.56 | *** join/#openmoko Vegar (~vegar@unaffiliated/vegar) |
| 22:28.11 | *** join/#openmoko risca_deb (~risca@dynamic-adsl-94-36-120-52.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 22:52.33 | *** join/#openmoko Bane^ (bane@shelli.fi) |
| 22:54.59 | *** join/#openmoko Fox_Muldr (quakeman@frnk-4d01fec8.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 23:01.39 | *** join/#openmoko fcc123 (~fcc123@p5B212291.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:23.42 | *** join/#openmoko risca_deb (~risca@dynamic-adsl-94-36-120-52.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 23:38.15 | *** join/#openmoko methril (~methril@189.27.134.173.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 23:39.43 | *** join/#openmoko ferluszt (~peter@p5DD294B0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:44.14 | *** join/#openmoko Vegar (~vegar@unaffiliated/vegar) |