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| 03:42.27 | linuxxr | that drop down menu disappearing is very disappointing |
| 03:42.55 | linuxxr | anybody else having this in shr-u |
| 03:43.19 | linuxxr | does it after reboot |
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| 03:49.48 | linuxxr | why not go with the .34.8 kernel an take a little shortcut since we are going that way to begin with |
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| 04:19.35 | linuxxr | any beagle board news? |
| 04:24.38 | linuxxr | yate |
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| 12:34.42 | michelem | I can build packages successfully, but when I try to install it with the "Software Packages" app (QPE) I get "Invalid package, contact package supplier" |
| 12:35.12 | michelem | what backend installer should I use to troubleshoot that? |
| 12:35.58 | michelem | it's a normal .qpk package |
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| 15:53.53 | michelem | I can't tell if I have a fix from the GPS from command line. Anyone has a tip? |
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| 16:35.58 | michelem | ok, connecting to GPSd via TCP and issuing commands seems the way |
| 16:36.10 | michelem | the folks having GPS working: anyone runs gpsd? |
| 16:36.28 | michelem | my problem now is that I get gpsd: opening read-only GPS data source type 0 and at '/dev/ttySAC1' |
| 16:36.42 | michelem | and (after a list of FAILED) "gpsd: gpsd_activate(): opened GPS (fd 7)" |
| 16:36.56 | michelem | but whatever command I issue to the TCP socket fails |
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| 16:53.03 | SpeedEvil | does strace on gpsd indicate it's reading anything from hte gps |
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| 17:08.09 | gena2x | michelem: have you powered device on? |
| 17:08.29 | michelem | SpeedEvil: whops, I missed your answer |
| 17:08.34 | michelem | yes, powered on |
| 17:08.45 | michelem | I got reaally strange behavior |
| 17:08.58 | michelem | I tried the command stty -F /dev/ttySAC1 -echo && cat -u /dev/ttySAC1 given on the wiki |
| 17:09.02 | michelem | it did print something |
| 17:09.16 | michelem | (unreadable fuss, periodic) |
| 17:09.34 | SpeedEvil | Sorry - I have little insuight - I have never used the FR GPS |
| 17:10.03 | michelem | with minicom I set the speed of ttySAC1 to 4800, as per NMEA defaults |
| 17:10.12 | michelem | then cat printed something |
| 17:10.22 | michelem | then restarted gpsd, still nothing |
| 17:10.58 | michelem | ok, I gotta go |
| 17:11.05 | SpeedEvil | good luck |
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| 18:20.19 | undrwater | gena2x: ping |
| 18:25.52 | gena2x | undrwater: pong |
| 18:26.52 | undrwater | gena2x: i'm looking at your sample environment.in...curious what hardware_ecc=1 does |
| 18:29.38 | gena2x | undrwater: have you read description on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/U-boot-gena2x? |
| 18:31.22 | gena2x | undrwater: if it's still unclear after that, i can elaborate |
| 18:32.02 | undrwater | yes...but not sure what hardware ecc support for NAND means...or does :) |
| 18:33.37 | gena2x | undrwater: every block on NAND has 'ECC' -> this is control sum |
| 18:33.59 | gena2x | undrwater: it can be calculated in software or in hardware |
| 18:34.13 | undrwater | error correction, yes? |
| 18:34.24 | gena2x | yeah, check and correct simple errors |
| 18:35.09 | gena2x | as flash speed is close to main mem (!), adding additional operations to calculate ECC can really slow it down (not speaking about CPU and power consumption) |
| 18:35.32 | gena2x | in my test, hw ecc is 8% faster even on zlib-compressed fs read! |
| 18:35.53 | gena2x | our cpu have full hw support for calculating ecc |
| 18:35.57 | gena2x | *has |
| 18:36.20 | undrwater | how much software ecc is happening in typical use on a distro? |
| 18:36.37 | gena2x | so its not really good idea _not_ t use it |
| 18:37.15 | gena2x | didn't understood question, what is meaning of 'happening'? |
| 18:37.25 | gena2x | in this context |
| 18:37.40 | gena2x | no distro uses hw ecc by default |
| 18:37.50 | gena2x | no distro require any changes to use it |
| 18:37.58 | undrwater | maybe i don't uderstand it well myself..but i'm curious if the distros are doing software ecc |
| 18:38.09 | gena2x | this is all in kernel |
| 18:38.28 | undrwater | in other words...do end users benefit from enabling hardware ecc] |
| 18:38.44 | gena2x | i told, my measurement 8% read speed for free |
| 18:38.59 | gena2x | for worst case |
| 18:39.22 | gena2x | in case of lzo compression of without compression, effect will be much higher |
| 18:39.37 | gena2x | s/of/or/ |
| 18:39.42 | undrwater | sounds like win-win |
| 18:39.50 | gena2x | it is |
| 18:40.04 | gena2x | only problem - bootloader not support it atm |
| 18:40.15 | gena2x | so you can't just flash rootfs with dfu-util |
| 18:40.17 | undrwater | oh! had to be a catch! :) |
| 18:40.47 | gena2x | you have to boot from sd and use kernel with hardware_ecc=1 |
| 18:41.00 | undrwater | ahh |
| 18:41.02 | gena2x | and just copy files manually to mtd |
| 18:41.15 | gena2x | then all as usual |
| 18:41.19 | undrwater | got it |
| 18:41.35 | undrwater | is there an shr kernel with hardware_ecc=1? |
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| 18:41.53 | gena2x | but good news - we already have patches from anarsoul for u-boot to use hw ecc |
| 18:42.14 | gena2x | and i already have plans to build, test and publish u-boot with such support |
| 18:42.16 | undrwater | your u-boot uses it, correct? |
| 18:42.24 | gena2x | not atm, just in plans |
| 18:42.24 | undrwater | Ok...so it doesn't yet |
| 18:42.43 | gena2x | but any kernel support hardware_ecc=1 |
| 18:42.53 | gena2x | including .29 i think |
| 18:43.04 | undrwater | but when it does, no need to copy from sd |
| 18:43.10 | gena2x | yeah |
| 18:43.16 | undrwater | great work! |
| 18:43.35 | gena2x | this is only matter of flashing in fact (now) |
| 18:44.37 | undrwater | thanks for your time :) |
| 18:48.01 | gena2x | you welcome |
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