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| 03:40.53 | rooly | anyone interested in testing android froyo on their freerunner? |
| 03:41.17 | Broam | i would, if my wife weren't currently using it... |
| 03:41.18 | Broam | :) |
| 03:41.24 | rooly | lol |
| 03:41.34 | rooly | you can put it on the sd card to boot |
| 03:41.46 | rooly | i mean sd-bootable version |
| 03:41.49 | rooly | no install or anything |
| 03:41.52 | undrwater | YES!! |
| 03:41.53 | rooly | http://rooly.g0dsoft.com/?p=17 |
| 03:41.55 | Broam | oh yes plz |
| 03:42.08 | undrwater | rooly: optimized? |
| 03:42.14 | rooly | undrwater, phtttt |
| 03:42.15 | rooly | no |
| 03:42.18 | Broam | optimized != deodexed right? |
| 03:42.19 | rooly | just booting |
| 03:42.35 | Broam | rooly: does it come with idiot-resistant instructions? I'm still amazed I got qtmoko to flash |
| 03:42.39 | undrwater | :D |
| 03:42.45 | rooly | Broam, not really |
| 03:42.53 | undrwater | rooly: uboot will boot it? |
| 03:42.59 | Broam | I'm using Qi |
| 03:43.00 | undrwater | i have 1.5 currently on sd... |
| 03:43.03 | rooly | you need at least the 1st or 2nd partition of your sd card as ext2 or 3 |
| 03:43.19 | undrwater | still need fat? |
| 03:43.22 | rooly | and just extract the tarball to it |
| 03:43.22 | Broam | how big is the sad card required to be? i have a 4gb |
| 03:43.31 | rooly | fat not necessary |
| 03:43.32 | Broam | 4gb ext2 partition coming up. |
| 03:43.36 | undrwater | awesome! |
| 03:43.41 | rooly | Broam, looks like 256 minimum |
| 03:43.51 | Broam | I am thankful I have nothing that small. |
| 03:43.58 | rooly | i should add some instructions |
| 03:44.47 | Broam | ok. Not that it matters, but I have an A7. |
| 03:45.18 | rooly | you'll have trouble with lots of stuff |
| 03:45.22 | rooly | this is merely for fun |
| 03:45.31 | undrwater | is ready to have fun |
| 03:45.32 | Broam | 's fine |
| 03:45.42 | undrwater | my main android phone is still on 1.6 |
| 03:45.47 | Broam | hmm..."take ownership of file system" thanks for being specific palimpsest |
| 03:45.59 | Broam | I want root to own this right? |
| 03:46.13 | Broam | guesses. |
| 03:46.44 | rooly | Broam, sure, but its all the same really |
| 03:46.47 | rooly | the permissions are 777 |
| 03:48.05 | Broam | gotta toss the SD card, has errors |
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| 03:49.24 | rooly | ok |
| 03:49.34 | rooly | post updated with some meager instructions |
| 03:49.42 | undrwater | grr... |
| 03:49.46 | Broam | I appreciate it |
| 03:50.00 | undrwater | untarred into sd card...found it had an extra directory |
| 03:50.22 | rooly | oh? |
| 03:50.24 | Broam | hmm. maybe it's the usb2 on this box. usb1 works |
| 03:50.28 | rooly | i make a mistake on packaging? |
| 03:50.31 | undrwater | rooly: btw, i haven't seen you on for quite a while |
| 03:50.36 | rooly | been busy |
| 03:50.49 | undrwater | rooly: "mistake" is strong |
| 03:50.51 | rooly | also laptopless for a while |
| 03:51.01 | undrwater | it's just easier to untar directly to the dir |
| 03:51.42 | rooly | it should boot just fine |
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| 03:51.49 | rooly | be patient, it's slow as molasses |
| 03:52.09 | rooly | might get usb errors, no idea what that is. |
| 03:52.25 | Broam | undrwater: seems like `mv * ..` did the trick for me |
| 03:53.21 | rooly | kk |
| 03:53.30 | rooly | i swear, this was a bitch to compile |
| 03:53.33 | rooly | took me 3 days |
| 03:53.34 | Broam | my wife may be on the phone for a while. |
| 03:54.18 | rooly | lol. i can't use the fr anymore. people complain to much, my screen is cracked, gps is broken, battery life is not as good as it once was, etc |
| 03:54.41 | undrwater | rooly: where's the kernel? |
| 03:54.43 | rooly | I went get a candy bar last night |
| 03:55.07 | rooly | undrwater, iunno, i just packaged it with the scripts available |
| 03:55.23 | Broam | my screen is fine...gps is down in qtmoko, but worked in SHR |
| 03:55.35 | Broam | as for battery...once I get someone with less shaky hands to fix #1024 |
| 03:55.46 | Broam | I might be able to go 2 days without plugging it in. :) |
| 03:56.00 | rooly | undrwater, is it not booting? |
| 03:56.31 | undrwater | no...can't find kernel...may need to rename it based on my uboot settings |
| 03:56.40 | rooly | using uboot? |
| 03:56.46 | undrwater | yes |
| 03:56.53 | rooly | ah, well i can't help there |
| 03:57.08 | undrwater | but...do you know where the kernel is located? |
| 03:57.13 | rooly | actually, no |
| 03:57.20 | rooly | going check if i missed something |
| 03:57.44 | Broam | rooly: I'll boot it w/ qi once my wife finishes her call. It's with her sister, about holiday gifts, so you have time to dig for that kernel :) |
| 03:57.57 | undrwater | there are some other froyo builds...maybe i can grab one of them |
| 03:58.36 | rooly | ah, woops |
| 03:58.39 | rooly | kernel didn't package |
| 03:58.40 | rooly | sorry |
| 03:58.49 | undrwater | :D |
| 03:58.57 | undrwater | that'll cause some problems :) |
| 03:59.02 | undrwater | see you next week? |
| 03:59.14 | rooly | lol, going pull it from the build i have running |
| 03:59.21 | rooly | i'll have it up in a few mnutes |
| 03:59.21 | Broam | so... |
| 03:59.29 | Broam | this is an SD build of android, with nothing to boot... |
| 03:59.35 | Broam | checks the date |
| 03:59.42 | Broam | Nope, not April 01 :) |
| 04:00.16 | undrwater | Broam: what is your wife talking on? shr? |
| 04:00.27 | Broam | undrwater: qtmoko v26. the FR is daily phone |
| 04:00.37 | rooly | qtmoko v26 is nice |
| 04:00.42 | Broam | and became very much more so once I got BT working |
| 04:00.44 | rooly | it doesn't...ya know...die |
| 04:00.46 | undrwater | Broam: which kernel? |
| 04:01.00 | Broam | undrwater: stock w/ v26, probably the old 29 series |
| 04:01.14 | Broam | undrwater: I'm not sshing into my phone while she's talkig on it. that would be rude |
| 04:01.21 | Broam | plus I don't think wifi's up |
| 04:01.26 | undrwater | .3x kernels seem to be a nightmare for the fr |
| 04:01.33 | rooly | ok, this is odd |
| 04:01.42 | Broam | it'll get fixed |
| 04:01.43 | rooly | swears his boots |
| 04:01.45 | Broam | until them, I stick with .29 |
| 04:02.01 | undrwater | Broam: i've done that...ssh into phone while on it |
| 04:02.15 | rooly | lol |
| 04:02.19 | rooly | has too |
| 04:02.24 | Broam | I have not yet, thankfully |
| 04:02.27 | rooly | mind you, I was the one on it |
| 04:02.31 | rooly | speakerphone or soemthing |
| 04:02.31 | undrwater | right |
| 04:02.38 | undrwater | no problem actually... |
| 04:02.48 | undrwater | handled it quite nicely |
| 04:02.49 | Broam | My one annoyance with qtmoko v26 is that with my current bt headset, only "Handsfree" works not "headset" and post-suspend it always connects "headset" which does not work |
| 04:03.04 | Broam | I need to figure out how to tell it to always use the right profile |
| 04:03.32 | rooly | <.< |
| 04:03.49 | Broam | however once it's connected it's great. |
| 04:04.01 | rooly | okay, well... |
| 04:04.10 | rooly | kernel doesn't seem to be there |
| 04:04.14 | rooly | this is really weird |
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| 04:05.00 | undrwater | Broam: did you have to do any tweaking to get handsfree to work? and does handsfree work on a headset, or is it actually handsfree? |
| 04:05.29 | Broam | undrwater: The physical BT headset (Plantronics 220) supports both Headset & Handsfree profiles |
| 04:05.33 | Broam | once I connect using Handsfree profile, everything works |
| 04:05.40 | Broam | (except voice dialing, but I expected that) |
| 04:06.00 | Broam | if I try headset profile, it fails to connect every time. I'd get logs, but I don't know where I'd get them from...and...wife using. |
| 04:06.34 | Broam | Handsfree profile is superset of Headset profile, so I *want* handsfree |
| 04:07.57 | undrwater | got it :) |
| 04:08.25 | Broam | yeah. The Plantronics 220 is a decent cheap BT headset |
| 04:08.47 | Broam | microusb to charge, works w/ freerunner, pairs quickly, audio quality isn't the best but I'm understandable |
| 04:08.53 | rooly | okay, well |
| 04:09.02 | rooly | i don't know what happened |
| 04:09.11 | Broam | rooly: did you fix it, whatever it was? |
| 04:09.11 | rooly | i'll repost this in a few minutes when this build finishes |
| 04:09.22 | rooly | Broam, looks like the kernel.img just wasn't in the package |
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| 04:09.25 | rooly | so it won't boot |
| 04:09.25 | Broam | oh good, the compile did't take 3 days. |
| 04:09.29 | Broam | I was going to admire your dedication. |
| 04:09.40 | Broam | rooly: yeah that'd be an issue. :D |
| 04:09.41 | rooly | Broam, nah, the compile takes about 3 hours from scratch |
| 04:09.53 | Broam | sounds like a way to fill up a saturday night |
| 04:10.10 | rooly | (that's on my i7 with make -j 16 |
| 04:10.11 | rooly | ) |
| 04:10.53 | undrwater | 16!! |
| 04:11.06 | rooly | 8 virtual cores, yeah |
| 04:11.11 | undrwater | so did you find the image to compile? |
| 04:11.33 | undrwater | didn't know we were up to that |
| 04:11.41 | rooly | the problem was pulling down the repo and setting up the build environment |
| 04:11.53 | rooly | i've got it repackaged |
| 04:12.00 | undrwater | i'm stuck in athlon xp days |
| 04:12.10 | rooly | i'm just finishing this build and i'll re-repakcage it |
| 04:12.39 | Broam | I'm on amd athlon 1.1Ghz undrwater |
| 04:12.41 | Broam | got you beat :D |
| 04:13.02 | undrwater | just by a bit! |
| 04:13.12 | undrwater | what are you running on it? |
| 04:13.24 | Broam | Ubuntu 10.04 |
| 04:13.47 | Broam | 1G ram, ATi 9550 AGP (w/ free drivers). I have spinny cube desktop going on this thing |
| 04:14.21 | rooly | for some reason the install script requires rsync |
| 04:14.28 | undrwater | ati's free drivers do 3d? |
| 04:14.40 | Broam | this is the much-lauded R300 chipset |
| 04:15.04 | rooly | so if you think it might be important, you may want to rsync the files to the sd card |
| 04:16.14 | Broam | nah, we'll try it untarred |
| 04:16.23 | undrwater | indeed |
| 04:16.23 | Broam | assuming i get my phone back tonight |
| 04:16.28 | rooly | lol |
| 04:16.53 | undrwater | what does the wife think of the freerunner? |
| 04:17.30 | rooly | has an i7 920 or someodd, running at 1.6 per core with 4GB ram |
| 04:17.42 | rooly | 4 hardware cores with hyperthreading each |
| 04:18.20 | undrwater | rooly: and what are you running on that machine? |
| 04:18.32 | Broam | undrwater: she hates it |
| 04:18.38 | Broam | that's why her using it is sort of a novelty |
| 04:18.46 | Broam | it's the Euro version, and I'm in the US. |
| 04:18.51 | undrwater | ahh |
| 04:18.58 | Broam | not doing one of the primarily used bands is sort of damning. |
| 04:19.06 | undrwater | what's diff about the euro version...more bands iirc |
| 04:19.16 | Broam | GSM-850 is very prevalent here. I hit 4 dead spots on my commute. Granted it's 75 minutes usually |
| 04:19.35 | undrwater | i see...so there's no 850 on that device |
| 04:19.40 | Broam | Euro does 900, 1800, 1900. US does 850, 1800, 1900. Quad-band phones were not that common when FR was made, apparently |
| 04:19.43 | Broam | right |
| 04:20.02 | Broam | or regulatory certification was more expensive for quad-band, I dunno |
| 04:20.08 | undrwater | ok |
| 04:20.17 | Broam | but if you wanted all the manuf fixes, A7 revision ONLY came in Euro bands |
| 04:20.24 | undrwater | my wife wondered why i spent $450 on a phone that didn't work ;) |
| 04:20.31 | Broam | I spent $300 |
| 04:21.54 | undrwater | i bought first shipment |
| 04:22.46 | Broam | Rockin'. |
| 04:22.51 | Broam | how many times have you torn it apart to solder it? |
| 04:22.56 | rooly | err |
| 04:22.57 | rooly | weird |
| 04:23.03 | rooly | apparently my build was a bit off |
| 04:23.04 | undrwater | i sent it in once for buzzfix |
| 04:23.09 | rooly | re-uploading |
| 04:23.14 | rooly | i'll tell you gusy when to go get it |
| 04:23.21 | undrwater | okie |
| 04:24.22 | Broam | undrwater: scariest thing I did to my FR was flash modem to moko11 |
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| 04:25.09 | undrwater | yep...same here |
| 04:25.10 | Broam | and that's cake by soldering standards |
| 04:25.42 | undrwater | no...scariest thing was dropping it from car window into rain puddle |
| 04:26.08 | Broam | oh yeah, there was the time I dropped it in the toilet at South East Linux Fest this year |
| 04:26.15 | undrwater | heheh |
| 04:26.16 | Broam | but it was in the camera case I bought for it |
| 04:26.24 | undrwater | mine was naked |
| 04:26.28 | undrwater | came out OK |
| 04:26.29 | Broam | I saluted that case. And then threw it away. |
| 04:26.34 | Broam | the phone didn't get wet. |
| 04:26.41 | Broam | lost my stylus, though. |
| 04:26.58 | Broam | still. $15 case or $300 phone? I'll lose the case |
| 04:27.00 | undrwater | the pen one with the laser? |
| 04:27.05 | Broam | no, just the one that ships with it |
| 04:27.10 | rooly | okay guys |
| 04:27.12 | rooly | hit up that link |
| 04:27.13 | rooly | http://rooly.g0dsoft.com/?p=17 |
| 04:27.14 | Broam | rooly: ok. |
| 04:27.18 | undrwater | mine shipped with a laser pen |
| 04:27.47 | Broam | they got cheap by A7 then :( |
| 04:28.15 | undrwater | yeah |
| 04:28.22 | undrwater | maybe so |
| 04:28.45 | undrwater | this is so much easier to flash than my current phone though :P |
| 04:29.59 | undrwater | there's the kernel! :) |
| 04:30.11 | rooly | there ya go |
| 04:30.17 | Broam | can you nuke that froyo-sd-pkg directory? |
| 04:30.20 | Broam | in the future |
| 04:30.33 | rooly | yeah, sure |
| 04:30.43 | Broam | thanks. untarred to SD. |
| 04:30.48 | Broam | now...we wait. |
| 04:32.05 | rooly | downloads done? |
| 04:32.11 | undrwater | yes...syncing now |
| 04:32.13 | rooly | re-submitting |
| 04:32.29 | Broam | yep |
| 04:33.03 | rooly | i guess i can get a copy of cupcake built too |
| 04:34.28 | rooly | but that'll take another 3 days |
| 04:34.37 | rooly | i'll do it when i go on turkey break |
| 04:34.38 | Broam | is cupcake going to be harder better faster stronger on the FR because it's less compex? |
| 04:34.56 | rooly | cupcake is actually slower than froyo |
| 04:35.03 | Broam | rooly: then not interested. :D |
| 04:35.06 | rooly | froyo just isn't optimized for the freerunner yet |
| 04:35.09 | Broam | rooly: you working w/ #replicant guys? |
| 04:35.14 | rooly | ...no... |
| 04:35.25 | Broam | they're trying to do FAIF Android |
| 04:35.39 | rooly | what i mean to say is froyo is better than cupcake in all ways |
| 04:35.43 | Broam | rooly: cool. |
| 04:35.46 | undrwater | have to rename kernel |
| 04:35.48 | Broam | don't bother with the cupcake. |
| 04:35.53 | rooly | it just isn't optimized yet like cupcake is |
| 04:35.54 | Broam | undrwater: for uboot or qi too? |
| 04:36.04 | Broam | rooly: ahh. |
| 04:36.11 | undrwater | Broam: just for uboot...cause that's how i have it set up |
| 04:36.17 | undrwater | kernel name must be uImage.bin |
| 04:36.28 | rooly | undrwater, why not just link it? |
| 04:36.40 | rooly | i suppose i could throw a symlink to it in the folder |
| 04:37.07 | undrwater | or that :) |
| 04:37.12 | rooly | and done |
| 04:37.19 | rooly | but i'm NOT reuploading this again |
| 04:37.20 | undrwater | not necessary...ppl change their uboot env's |
| 04:37.38 | rooly | i never did |
| 04:37.40 | Broam | hard link it |
| 04:38.18 | Broam | rooly: I'll post my response in a comment on your blogopost. Bed time is approaching and conversation sees no hope of ending. |
| 04:38.19 | undrwater | starting kernel... |
| 04:38.34 | rooly | Broam, kk |
| 04:39.04 | undrwater | can't access tty: job control turned off |
| 04:39.30 | undrwater | preceded by: ANDROID sh: |
| 04:40.01 | Broam | well it did boot in its defense |
| 04:40.51 | rooly | so, no luck undrwater? |
| 04:41.27 | undrwater | nope... |
| 04:41.35 | rooly | :( sorry |
| 04:41.35 | undrwater | yes...it booted :) |
| 04:41.40 | undrwater | in its defense |
| 04:41.51 | undrwater | nvm...i've got splash |
| 04:42.01 | rooly | so you didn't patient like i said |
| 04:42.06 | undrwater | right! |
| 04:42.08 | undrwater | :) |
| 04:42.13 | undrwater | to assume...etc... |
| 04:42.24 | undrwater | anyway...dialog box open now with choice... |
| 04:42.41 | undrwater | defaultactivity |
| 04:42.48 | undrwater | choice is provision or sdksetup |
| 04:42.54 | rooly | provision |
| 04:43.00 | rooly | sdksetup don't work |
| 04:43.08 | rooly | at least, every time i've ever tried |
| 04:43.22 | rooly | you're gonna have to be ULTRA patient for it |
| 04:43.31 | rooly | just plug it in and let it sit there |
| 04:43.45 | undrwater | i see notification bar.. |
| 04:43.51 | undrwater | ohhh...nice!! |
| 04:43.57 | rooly | the screen is probably black |
| 04:43.59 | undrwater | adw is up |
| 04:44.01 | rooly | or blocky |
| 04:44.18 | undrwater | not too bad, actually |
| 04:44.27 | rooly | you'll have to get into the settings app and turn off animations and maybe turn on orientation |
| 04:45.06 | undrwater | how are hardware keys mapped? |
| 04:45.34 | rooly | power-press = menu, power-hold-short = home, power-hold-long = power |
| 04:46.03 | undrwater | aux is back |
| 04:46.15 | rooly | aux-short = back, aux-long = long-press home |
| 04:46.58 | rooly | holy crap, live-wallpapers work |
| 04:48.15 | undrwater | market? |
| 04:49.53 | rooly | none, not an official google-sanctioned build |
| 04:50.59 | undrwater | wifi? doesn't seem to want to turn on |
| 04:51.27 | undrwater | rotation works well |
| 04:51.29 | rooly | hmm, wifi is working fine here |
| 04:53.11 | undrwater | do you have your sim card in? |
| 04:53.16 | rooly | nope |
| 04:53.40 | rooly | not connecting for you? |
| 04:53.51 | undrwater | not even turning on |
| 04:54.08 | undrwater | i'll try rebooting |
| 04:54.09 | rooly | don't worry |
| 04:54.16 | rooly | i doubt it'll connect |
| 04:54.22 | rooly | you don't have sound anyway |
| 04:54.25 | rooly | or vibrate |
| 04:55.57 | undrwater | ahh |
| 04:56.20 | undrwater | no gsm sound either? |
| 04:56.32 | rooly | highly doubtful |
| 04:57.04 | undrwater | fyi, animations were turned off by default |
| 04:57.16 | rooly | oh? they stay turned on in mine for some reason |
| 04:58.16 | undrwater | no tty error this time |
| 04:59.49 | undrwater | have you tried adb? |
| 04:59.54 | rooly | nope |
| 05:01.24 | undrwater | not finding device |
| 05:01.55 | rooly | you have to use usb networking + ADB_HOST=192.168.0.202 |
| 05:02.01 | undrwater | i may need to update |
| 05:02.17 | rooly | set up usb networking over linux for usb0/eth1 |
| 05:02.35 | undrwater | i'm using adb for my android phone...is it different? |
| 05:02.37 | rooly | then use "ADB_HOST=192.168.0.202 adb device" |
| 05:02.56 | rooly | the problem is that freerunner uses a modified emulator device |
| 05:03.02 | rooly | which doesn't play well with adb |
| 05:03.15 | undrwater | ahh |
| 05:03.20 | undrwater | wireless works now |
| 05:05.04 | undrwater | keyboard is painfully slow |
| 05:05.10 | rooly | yes, it is |
| 05:05.50 | rooly | everything will speed up when it gets optimized |
| 05:05.54 | rooly | well...if |
| 05:06.44 | undrwater | yeah...if |
| 05:07.18 | undrwater | are you using wep on your AP? |
| 05:07.29 | rooly | nope, open |
| 05:07.36 | rooly | i keep my network open to keep it simple |
| 05:08.13 | undrwater | i used to... |
| 05:10.00 | undrwater | does BT turn on for you? |
| 05:10.18 | rooly | lets go check |
| 05:13.52 | rooly | nope |
| 05:18.24 | undrwater | hrm...there were some other froyo for freerunner files floating about...but can't find now |
| 05:19.47 | rooly | the guys' server is down |
| 05:19.54 | rooly | they work even worse than this one |
| 05:20.00 | rooly | this is theo nly version that has working wifi |
| 05:21.29 | rooly | okay, going to bed |
| 05:21.45 | rooly | there's your build. easy enough to pick and choose your boot |
| 05:21.46 | rooly | ttyl |
| 05:23.26 | undrwater | thanks! |
| 05:23.27 | undrwater | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:15.45 | undrwater | howdy |
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| 14:32.52 | FelixJongleur | hi, ich möchte fürs Openmoko GTA2 eine Distribution mitsamt Kernel selbst compilieren. Hab jetzt auch schon einiges ausprobiert, scheitere an einigen stellen aber immer mal wieder. Deshalb dachte ich mir, ich frag hier mal. |
| 14:32.55 | FelixJongleur | Konkret meine Frage: Welche Distribution lässt sich Eurer Meinung nach am leichtesten komplett aus dem Source erzeugen bzw. bei welcher ist dafür entsprechen die Doku am besten und welche howtos (gerne welche, die sich nicht so leicht ergooglen lassen) sind dafür empfehlenswert? |
| 14:33.37 | PaulFertser | FelixJongleur: any chance you write your question in a more common language? |
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| 14:34.12 | FelixJongleur | oops ... thought this was openmoko.de ... sorry... ok one moment |
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| 14:38.44 | FelixJongleur | I'd like to compile my own openmoko distribution, kernel inclusive for some reason. I've tried a view things, but get stuck from time to time. |
| 14:38.48 | FelixJongleur | my question is, which distribution is the easiest one to build from scratch and which howtos would you recommend? i only need a console, just want to change a few things, so most distributions would satisfy my needs. |
| 14:39.24 | PaulFertser | FelixJongleur: if you're after cross-compiling, then SHR/OE most probably. |
| 14:39.50 | PaulFertser | FelixJongleur: does it not satisfy you? |
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| 14:42.27 | FelixJongleur | I want to patch the kernel to use the spi interface to connect the openmoko with an fpga... as I got a kernel patch for this from a former openmoko developer, I think this won't work out of the box. so it doesn't yet satisfy me ;) |
| 14:42.55 | gena2x | FelixJongleur: kernel compilation procedure is easy with any distribution |
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| 14:43.28 | PaulFertser | FelixJongleur: to compile a kernel all you need is any arm toolchain. |
| 14:43.58 | gena2x | FelixJongleur: in shr, you have to recompile world to get userspace |
| 14:44.26 | gena2x | FelixJongleur: debian probably may be easiest for development |
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| 14:44.43 | gena2x | FelixJongleur: but kernel is same everywhere |
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| 14:50.11 | FelixJongleur | do I have to compile my distribution at the kernel or can I combine any kernel with any distribution-binary? (extract tar.gz, exchange kernel-image and modules, build jffs2, flash kernel and rootimage, done). I think this won't be that easy, will it? |
| 14:51.20 | gena2x | not really all |
| 14:51.40 | gena2x | but any v29 kernel to any v29, or any v34 to any other v34 |
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| 14:53.15 | gena2x | just install any distro to sd or nand. for nand, copy you modules to nand, do depmod -a while booted in, reboot, flash your new kernel via u-boot |
| 14:53.36 | gena2x | for sd, just copy kernel and do depmod as with usual linux |
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| 14:54.52 | FelixJongleur | thx |
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| 15:59.17 | PBeck | hi |
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| 17:04.28 | badcloud | PBeck: damn your auto-"hi" |
| 17:04.48 | badcloud | makes me keep peeking into this channel to see if someone actually said something interesting |
| 17:04.52 | badcloud | :P |
| 17:05.22 | badcloud | PBeck: but anyway, *hi*, how are you? :) |
| 17:05.29 | PBeck | badcloud: it's only a trick to get more publicity ;) |
| 17:05.56 | badcloud | PBeck: haha, it's working then ;) |
| 17:06.12 | PBeck | thanks :) |
| 17:06.25 | rooly | Hey guys, sd-bootable android froyo here. anyone wanna try it? No sound, no vibrate, no gsm, but it does have wifi and is sd-bootable |
| 17:06.34 | PBeck | it was hard work to create such a system :) |
| 17:07.01 | badcloud | PBeck: really?? |
| 17:07.17 | badcloud | rooly: sorry, not very tempting, considering I use mine as a daily phone |
| 17:07.27 | badcloud | but thanks for the offer just the same |
| 17:07.28 | rooly | kk |
| 17:07.55 | PBeck | yeah of course - many statistic, many tests and then at the end i have the mass controll system, only when i say - hi :> |
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| 17:08.42 | badcloud | I'm sure you'll find someone interested, as there are probably less fr/1937 owners which use theirs as dailies than for every other type of usage |
| 17:09.02 | badcloud | such as software developing, etc |
| 17:09.17 | badcloud | PBeck: ah |
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| 17:14.44 | gena2x | rooly: how fast froyo? |
| 17:14.57 | rooly | not very |
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| 17:31.10 | undrwater | not extremely slow either |
| 17:31.17 | undrwater | pretty acceptable |
| 17:31.26 | undrwater | assuming everything worked :) |
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| 20:46.25 | choukoumoun | hello |
| 20:48.50 | undrwater | 'lo |
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| 20:50.07 | choukoumoun | je recherche le moyen d'installer neotool sur ubuntu 10.10 le script http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool m'affiche |
| 20:50.21 | choukoumoun | neotool.sh: 2: VERSION: not found |
| 20:50.21 | choukoumoun | neotool.sh: 24: références: not found |
| 20:50.21 | choukoumoun | neotool.sh: 52: settings_file: not found |
| 20:50.21 | choukoumoun | neotool.sh: 54: find_dfu: not found |
| 20:50.21 | choukoumoun | neotool.sh: 25: Syntax error: "&" unexpected |
| 20:51.08 | undrwater | you're using ubuntu? |
| 20:51.19 | choukoumoun | yes i |
| 20:51.25 | undrwater | i believe there's a neotool deb |
| 20:51.46 | undrwater | let me see if there's a difference in my neotool |
| 20:52.32 | choukoumoun | you what you used linux distribution? |
| 20:53.05 | undrwater | i use gentoo |
| 20:54.06 | choukoumoun | ok |
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| 20:55.30 | choukoumoun | thanks |
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| 20:58.49 | undrwater | http://pastebin.ca/2001351 |
| 20:58.52 | undrwater | there's mine |
| 20:59.39 | undrwater | v1.2 though |
| 21:00.00 | undrwater | do you have dfu-util installed? |
| 21:02.53 | rooly | thinks neotool ought to ask for su |
| 21:03.03 | rooly | just toss a gksu in there |
| 21:03.11 | rooly | at least, before the flashing begins |
| 21:03.26 | rooly | that way it can be run from unprivelaged space |
| 21:04.32 | undrwater | ahhh...i'm running from root...forgot about su |
| 21:04.34 | undrwater | sudo |
| 21:07.58 | rooly | it could also detect the system running and either attempt to install the dfu-util package from the package manager, or download it and install to the user's directory. |
| 21:09.04 | undrwater | the new one does |
| 21:09.05 | undrwater | ? |
| 21:09.26 | rooly | oh? okay |
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| 21:09.32 | rooly | hasn't used dfu in a long time |
| 21:10.13 | undrwater | i used neo-tool last night to flash qtopia |
| 21:10.18 | [Rui] | hi |
| 21:11.33 | undrwater | howdy |
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| 22:07.17 | choukoumoun | I am looking for a way to install ubuntu on neotool 10.10 The script http://users.on.net/ Antisol ~ / neotool gives me |
| 22:07.28 | choukoumoun | neotool.sh: 2: VERSION: not found |
| 22:07.28 | choukoumoun | neotool.sh: 24: références: not found |
| 22:07.28 | choukoumoun | neotool.sh: 52: settings_file: not found |
| 22:07.28 | choukoumoun | neotool.sh: 54: find_dfu: not found |
| 22:07.28 | choukoumoun | neotool.sh: 25: Syntax error: "&" unexpected |
| 22:08.02 | undrwater | choukoumoun: sudo? |
| 22:10.13 | choukoumoun | yes |
| 22:11.35 | undrwater | have you installed dfu-util? |
| 22:16.00 | choukoumoun | yes |
| 22:16.32 | undrwater | did you try the one i pasted for you? |
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