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| 00:55.41 | badcloud_ | anyone know a cheap place to order the capacitor for 1024 fix? I'm in Israel |
| 00:55.48 | badcloud_ | cheapest I found was 30 bucks |
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| 01:27.20 | badcloud_ | also, is shr almost fully functional on n900? |
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| 11:33.36 | badcloud_ | how functional is the N900 using shr now? |
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| 11:35.59 | SpeedEvil | not - as far as I'm aware. |
| 11:36.13 | SpeedEvil | That is - I'm not aware of any efforts to port it. |
| 11:37.17 | badcloud_ | SpeedEvil: then what was ported to the N900 as far as distros that work on the fr/1973? |
| 11:38.28 | SpeedEvil | I don't know of any. |
| 11:40.49 | badcloud_ | :P |
| 11:40.58 | badcloud_ | wonder why I ever got the impression there was |
| 11:42.01 | badcloud_ | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=62152 |
| 11:44.10 | badcloud_ | there's even a vid and install instructions\ |
| 11:44.45 | SpeedEvil | neat. |
| 11:45.04 | badcloud_ | I think I know which phone I want next |
| 11:45.09 | SpeedEvil | Looking interesting. Though I've not looked at the vid. |
| 11:45.21 | badcloud_ | is watching the vid now |
| 11:45.33 | SpeedEvil | An alternate software stack aimed at phones, that's not meego will be nice |
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| 12:56.17 | mickeyl | SpeedEvil: SHR folks are working on N900 for quite some time now |
| 12:56.42 | mickeyl | and they're making progress as far as i can see |
| 12:58.11 | badcloud_ | mickeyl: thanks for the info |
| 12:58.37 | badcloud_ | I'm browsing for new phones in case my fr croaks |
| 12:59.21 | mickeyl | right. there are basically three choices |
| 12:59.39 | mickeyl | N900, Palm Pre (Plus/2), HTC [Dream|NexusOne] |
| 12:59.50 | mickeyl | each has problems |
| 12:59.54 | mickeyl | but in varying areas :)Ã= |
| 13:03.17 | pespin_ | mickeyl, iphone is starting to be supported by Lopi too :) |
| 13:05.03 | mickeyl | right, that may be a forth option, but afaik noone around here (FSO/SHR/similar) is working on it |
| 13:06.35 | badcloud_ | mickeyl: wow, thanks |
| 13:06.58 | badcloud_ | any place to read up about drawbacks for each model (regarding abovementioned problems) |
| 13:07.01 | badcloud_ | ? |
| 13:07.21 | SpeedEvil | mickeyl: right - I'd not been following SHR progress - glad t see I'm wrong. |
| 13:08.35 | pespin_ | SpeedEvil, badcloud_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w3grzo_ybM |
| 13:08.45 | SpeedEvil | What's that? |
| 13:09.07 | pespin_ | iphone+shr :) |
| 13:09.11 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 13:09.20 | mickeyl | badcloud_: unfortunately there's no central point of status, but FSO wiki contains some hardware oriented pages with info |
| 13:09.48 | SpeedEvil | I try to support openish hardware as much as possible - which iphone isn't really. |
| 13:09.54 | mickeyl | well |
| 13:10.11 | mickeyl | as a matter of fact, the iphone's hardware is better documented than some of the other choices... |
| 13:10.26 | badcloud_ | for me, the n900 looks like a winner |
| 13:10.27 | mickeyl | e.g. GSM is no problem there |
| 13:10.33 | mickeyl | but a nightmare on N900 and Palm |
| 13:10.49 | badcloud_ | really |
| 13:11.20 | SpeedEvil | Sure - but I tend to discount documented platforms if you've got to crack them. |
| 13:11.33 | mickeyl | somewhat. It's very tough on Palm, since it's a completely undocumented binary protocol there. it's similar on the N900, but there is at least an open reference implementation that does somethings |
| 13:11.51 | badcloud_ | I guess I'm a softy for landscape qwerty |
| 13:11.51 | mickeyl | pespin_: that video is quite impressive. do the SHR folks know about that? |
| 13:11.57 | SpeedEvil | As there is no guarantee that the one you buy off the shelf tomorrow will be crackable as the one you bought yesterday. |
| 13:12.43 | mickeyl | true. but by that logic, all but the FR fails |
| 13:12.48 | mickeyl | as you can nowhere be sure |
| 13:13.18 | pespin_ | mickeyl, yeah, GNUtoo is helping Lopi to get it into openembedded :) |
| 13:13.28 | mickeyl | pespin_: awesome |
| 13:14.00 | pespin_ | as iphone3g machine name if you wanna see what's done so far |
| 13:14.53 | SpeedEvil | mickeyl: To an extent, yes. N900 is at least the best of the rest. |
| 13:15.06 | mickeyl | i can only spare a 2g atm., my company still needs the 3g with the original system to test... |
| 13:15.12 | mickeyl | SpeedEvil: true |
| 13:16.16 | SpeedEvil | Also - n900 going closed can't easily be done without consumer notice - as it'd break some of the promises in the advertising that would lead to refunds. |
| 13:17.20 | badcloud_ | so really iphone's hw is the best of the bunch |
| 13:17.42 | SpeedEvil | Speaking personally, I really really like the hwkbd |
| 13:17.51 | badcloud_ | SpeedEvil: me too |
| 13:18.03 | badcloud_ | I don't think I could do without it |
| 13:18.05 | mickeyl | ya, it's not that. unfortunately not as good as some of the HTC, but still |
| 13:18.11 | mickeyl | s/that/bad/ |
| 13:18.15 | badcloud_ | that's what's driving me up the wall with my fr |
| 13:19.18 | badcloud_ | how about sound card quality? |
| 13:19.51 | badcloud_ | any big differences? |
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| 21:15.02 | azaghal | Hm... Anyone remembers what was the link to a nice leather pouch for a Neo FR? |
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| 21:28.48 | pespin | azaghal, tuxbrain sells one made by them, but cannot find it in its shop right now. You might want to contact them by mail |
| 21:29.14 | azaghal | pespin: Yeah, I think they removed it from the offer. |
| 21:30.07 | pespin | azaghal, yeah but they might still have some stock, you should contact them |
| 21:30.20 | azaghal | Ok, thanks ;) |
| 21:33.42 | pespin | azaghal, I spoke with david from tuxbrain and it seems he doesn't have those leather case anymore. You can get one here thought: http://www.pulster.eu/ |
| 21:34.01 | SpeedEvil | Maybe, if they still have any in stock. |
| 21:34.32 | azaghal | pespin: Thanks :) |
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