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| 08:43.17 | pabs3 | I'm getting screen corruption (just the top bit where the panel usually is) in the lock screen with todays SHR-u update. is anyone else having that issue? |
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| 09:20.58 | JaMa | pabs3: yes someone reported it on ML |
| 09:21.15 | pabs3 | cool |
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| 10:09.20 | Fox_Muldr | i'm updating shr-u at the moment. wondering if i also get these screen corruptions |
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| 10:55.03 | Fox_Muldr | wowo after shr-u update my touchscreen sends wrong coordinates... |
| 10:56.52 | JaMa | Fox_Muldr: see ML, someone had similar problem |
| 10:57.43 | Fox_Muldr | i already see your mail converning pointercal issues |
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| 11:00.48 | JaMa | and? |
| 11:03.11 | Fox_Muldr | i reboot now |
| 11:05.42 | Fox_Muldr | i did the remove and reinstall of pointercal-xinput package but now after reboot i only have a screen lock with upper screen corruptions and i can't use the slider. don't know if touchscreen still is incorrect or what else |
| 11:06.12 | JaMa | use AUX button to unlock |
| 11:06.44 | Fox_Muldr | i disabled aux button because i used it elsewhere ;) |
| 11:06.55 | JaMa | then you need ssh :) |
| 11:07.01 | Fox_Muldr | but i found the position on the touchscreen to slide it and it is still rotated 90 degrees |
| 11:07.18 | JaMa | with corruption, missing slider talk with [Rui], he was trying to fix it in libphone-ui-shr |
| 11:07.35 | [Rui] | JaMa: I reverted it all |
| 11:07.46 | Fox_Muldr | after lock screen disappeared the upper corruptions also disappeared |
| 11:08.04 | Fox_Muldr | but still touchscreen input is rotated :( |
| 11:08.56 | JaMa | [Rui]: but then it's still resized wrt keyboard? |
| 11:09.00 | [Rui] | tes |
| 11:09.14 | Fox_Muldr | now i'm back on my ssh console. is there anything else i should check for ts input? |
| 11:09.26 | [Rui] | yes, couldn't fix it, only made things worse, so I reverted it all |
| 11:09.52 | [Rui] | Fox_Muldr: |
| 11:10.19 | [Rui] | Fox_Muldr: it's not missing, just very small an on coords 0,0 |
| 11:11.31 | Fox_Muldr | [Rui]: i found the position of the slider with a little trying |
| 11:11.52 | JaMa | Fox_Muldr: do you use rotation? maybe omrotate? |
| 11:12.05 | JaMa | Fox_Muldr: is your pointercal.xinput the same as mine (on ML)? |
| 11:12.06 | Fox_Muldr | i disabled omrotate in conf |
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| 11:12.47 | Fox_Muldr | JaMa: yes |
| 11:13.13 | Fox_Muldr | JaMa: it was already before i removed and reinstalled it. but i thought i try it |
| 11:13.45 | JaMa | try to run 89x*Calibration manually |
| 11:14.13 | Fox_Muldr | it said: Using calibration data stored in /etc/pointercal.xinput |
| 11:14.36 | [Rui] | Fox_Muldr: wait, you don't mean a little bit of corruption on the top bar? |
| 11:14.55 | [Rui] | Fox_Muldr: rotation is borked at the driver level |
| 11:15.19 | [Rui] | Fox_Muldr: xrandr -o 1 ; xrandr -o 0; is enough to bork dpi calculations all over |
| 11:15.36 | Fox_Muldr | [Rui]: with corruptions i mean a smal horizontal line of maybe 20 pixel which only shows garbage. i never rotated the screen today |
| 11:16.09 | [Rui] | Fox_Muldr: ok, that's the panel with the idle screen underneath it... somehow |
| 11:16.10 | JaMa | from ML http://1qaz.de/lock-1.png http://1qaz.de/lock-2.png |
| 11:16.36 | [Rui] | Fox_Muldr: it seems SPLASH is below the panel and there's no ELM_WIN_style that's better than it |
| 11:16.45 | [Rui] | and isn't resized by the keyboard :( |
| 11:16.48 | Fox_Muldr | JaMa: it looks exactly like these screens |
| 11:17.32 | JaMa | well I have those corruptions somethimes during whole last year or so |
| 11:18.06 | Fox_Muldr | [Rui]: the little corruption doesn't bother me at the moment because it gets lost after screen unlocks. but the wrong ts input bothers me ;) |
| 11:18.28 | JaMa | Fox_Muldr: any local change in xorg.conf? |
| 11:18.42 | Fox_Muldr | JaMa: not that i know of but i could look |
| 11:18.44 | [Rui] | Fox_Muldr: that's something else, all I did was change the window style in the idle screen, nothing ts related |
| 11:18.46 | JaMa | you can try evdev driver, but strange that I have right calibration here with both |
| 11:19.30 | Fox_Muldr | JaMa: my xorg.conf has quite some entries. how can i find out if it is default or altered? |
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| 11:20.11 | Fox_Muldr | driver for touchscreen is "tslib" |
| 11:20.30 | [Rui] | Fox_Muldr: can you try to recalibrate first? |
| 11:20.54 | Fox_Muldr | [Rui]: you mean with 89xTS_Calibrator script? |
| 11:22.32 | [Rui] | Fox_Muldr: you can move /etc/pointercal.xinput aside and run it |
| 11:23.14 | Fox_Muldr | [Rui]: just rename it an dreboot after that and recalibration starts? |
| 11:23.33 | [Rui] | no need to reboot |
| 11:23.41 | [Rui] | can you ssh into it? |
| 11:23.51 | Fox_Muldr | [Rui]: yes i did this over ssh |
| 11:25.08 | [Rui] | and did it help |
| 11:25.09 | [Rui] | ? |
| 11:26.05 | Fox_Muldr | [Rui]: you mean just renaming the file and nothing else? the touchscreen still is wrong |
| 11:26.08 | JaMa | or just run xinput_calibrator |
| 11:26.22 | [Rui] | Fox_Muldr: move it aside and run xinput_calibrator |
| 11:26.29 | Fox_Muldr | ok i run it |
| 11:26.37 | JaMa | [Rui]: xinput_calibrator doesn't care about that file xinput_calibrator_once.sh does |
| 11:26.44 | [Rui] | JaMa: yes |
| 11:26.52 | [Rui] | moving aside is just to preserve it! |
| 11:27.05 | JaMa | xinput_calibrator doesn't overwritte it ;) |
| 11:27.12 | Fox_Muldr | so what should i run now? xinput_Calibrator or xinput_Calibrator_once.sh? |
| 11:27.53 | JaMa | xinput_calibrator for start |
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| 11:30.02 | Fox_Muldr | ok i run it but after that the input still is wrong |
| 11:30.31 | Fox_Muldr | but it seems that it is not rotated but shifted over the screen |
| 11:31.01 | Fox_Muldr | at least one slider from the power menu could be used when sliding way over it on the screen |
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| 11:32.35 | Fox_Muldr | interesting is that the displayed new values for "Evdev Axis Calibration" seems swaped compared to the ones in pointercal.xinput |
| 11:33.26 | Fox_Muldr | in pointercal.xinput i have "Evdev Axis Calibration" 32 107 918 911 98 and after xinput_calibrator it shows in the console "Evdev Axis Calibration" 32 925 108 100 916 |
| 11:34.31 | Fox_Muldr | it also ways "Swapping X and Y axis...". but don't know if this is normal or not |
| 11:37.24 | JaMa | Fox_Muldr: that's probably because it's "incremental" calibration, so you had ts axis swapped before calling it |
| 11:38.05 | JaMa | Fox_Muldr: to test it properly you can move pointercal.xinput and reboot (to start xinput_calibrator with "empty" xinput calibraton) |
| 11:38.24 | Fox_Muldr | JaMa: ok i have renamed it already and reboot now |
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| 11:38.31 | JaMa | Fox_Muldr: do you have latest kernel, right? |
| 11:38.40 | Fox_Muldr | updated about a hour ago |
| 11:39.11 | JaMa | checked uImage link and uname -a? |
| 11:39.20 | Fox_Muldr | link is correct |
| 11:39.34 | Fox_Muldr | and no old image is there |
| 11:39.49 | Fox_Muldr | i can check uname -a after reboot |
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| 11:42.24 | Fox_Muldr | hmm after reboot no screen calibration tool started automatically |
| 11:43.14 | Fox_Muldr | but i only have pointercal and pointercal.xinput.old (renamed it to *.old) in /etc |
| 11:43.52 | Fox_Muldr | could i run xinput_calibrator_once.sh manually? |
| 11:44.02 | [Rui] | sure |
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| 11:47.34 | Fox_Muldr | now my pointercal.xinput changed from "xinput set-int-prop "Touchscreen" "Evdev Axis Calibration" 32 107 918 911 98" to "xinput set-int-prop "S3C24XX TouchScreen" "Evdev Axis Calibration" 32 113 923 917 100;" and the second line with "xinput set-int-prop "Touchscreen" "Evdev Axes Swap" 8 1" disappeared |
| 11:48.20 | Fox_Muldr | is this correct the the device name changed to S3C24XX TouchScreen? |
| 11:49.07 | Fox_Muldr | now it works :) |
| 11:49.11 | [Rui] | yay! |
| 11:49.33 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 11:49.56 | Fox_Muldr | but than why is the default pointercal.xinputin the repo different from the one i have to use? that's strange |
| 11:50.48 | Fox_Muldr | that would mean that after every update to this file i have to do the recalibration which i never had to do before |
| 11:53.23 | [Rui] | something wrong must've happened, I have been upgrading for a while and hadn't those issues |
| 11:53.39 | [Rui] | when did you previously upgrade? |
| 11:55.03 | Fox_Muldr | before today it was a few weeks ago |
| 11:58.02 | JaMa | gena2x: is it possible that your last jitterless touchscreen v4 changed ts name for user space? |
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| 12:02.35 | JaMa | still has "Touchscreen" in xinput --list |
| 12:05.02 | Fox_Muldr | screen rotation seems to work fine. but when i use the virtual keyboard i often have two characters when i press a key only once. seems like the input from ts bounces |
| 12:08.26 | [Rui] | Fox_Muldr: what are you running? |
| 12:08.34 | [Rui] | Fox_Muldr: screen rotation *doesn't work* |
| 12:09.07 | [Rui] | Fox_Muldr: just try to do xrandr -o N with N being, in this order: 1, 2, 3, 0 |
| 12:09.16 | [Rui] | 2 == 0, and 3 == 1 |
| 12:09.21 | [Rui] | shouldn't be |
| 12:09.27 | [Rui] | plus, dpi gets borked |
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| 12:11.20 | Fox_Muldr | [Rui]: i used xrandr -o left and it worked good and after that i used xrandr-o normal and i get a normal non-rotated screen with working input |
| 12:11.32 | [Rui] | Fox_Muldr: try *right* :) |
| 12:12.03 | Fox_Muldr | [Rui]: ok i try |
| 12:12.24 | Fox_Muldr | [Rui]: but if right doesn't work but left works than i can live with that ;) |
| 12:12.45 | [Rui] | Fox_Muldr: no do that a few more times, then try to use the terminal :) |
| 12:13.35 | Fox_Muldr | [Rui]: directly after rotate right inoput is wrong |
| 12:16.07 | JaMa | Fox_Muldr: then you should try to fix this patch http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/diff/recipes/xorg-xserver/xserver-xorg-1.9.2/randr-support.patch?id=cb798dc31dee5c131e0f634021678e9c2fedeca8 |
| 12:16.42 | Fox_Muldr | [Rui]: after rotating back to "normal" it is ok again. and when doing "left" it also works. strange is that right and left rotates both the same way but only left works. |
| 12:17.21 | Fox_Muldr | [Rui]: but the bounciness of the inoput is bothering me quite a bit. every second key is pressed twice :( |
| 12:17.45 | [Rui] | JaMa: Fox_Muldr's description looks a lot like *before* the jitterless patch |
| 12:18.17 | JaMa | [Rui]: ? |
| 12:18.32 | JaMa | [Rui]: you mean the ts name in "xinput --list" or rotation? |
| 12:18.46 | [Rui] | <Fox_Muldr> [Rui]: but the bounciness of the inoput is bothering me quite a bit. every second key is pressed twice :( |
| 12:19.39 | JaMa | Fox_Muldr: are you sure you have latest kernel? |
| 12:20.03 | Fox_Muldr | uname-a: Linux om-gta02 2.6.34.7 #1 Sun Oct 31 20:28:57 CET 2010 armv4tl GNU/Linux |
| 12:20.34 | Fox_Muldr | kernel was updated today when i did an opkg upgrade |
| 12:20.50 | JaMa | and running from nand or uSD? |
| 12:21.03 | Fox_Muldr | uSD |
| 12:21.20 | Fox_Muldr | so no kernel to flash in nand extra partition ;) |
| 12:22.53 | Fox_Muldr | hehe and i see that it always suspends on usb with full battery. quite annoying. i disabled suspend now in the power-menu |
| 12:24.51 | [Rui] | perhaps better than uname is opkg info kernel |
| 12:25.25 | JaMa | [Rui]: as long as /boot/uImage link is updated right :) |
| 12:25.40 | Fox_Muldr | Version: 2.6.34.7-oe9+gitr9+e4182f3551f1b8e8f8bd07a2d68e49a0ec4cd04a-r0.6 |
| 12:26.31 | [Rui] | Fox_Muldr: you have the same as I do |
| 12:26.36 | Fox_Muldr | links in /boot are: uImage-GTA02.bin -> uImage and uImage -> uImage-2.6.34.7 and file uImage-2.6.34.7 exists also |
| 12:27.57 | [Rui] | so it isn't that |
| 12:31.23 | Fox_Muldr | maybe it has something to do with the already different ts input. i already had to change the pointercal.xinput to get it working compared to the default settings |
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| 12:49.58 | JaMa | Fox_Muldr: what's in your xinput --list? |
| 12:50.09 | Fox_Muldr | wait i look |
| 12:54.38 | Fox_Muldr | it gives in category "Virtual core pointer" three devices: "Virtual core XTEST pointer" "Touchscreen" and "S3C24XX TouchScreen" |
| 12:55.50 | Fox_Muldr | touchscreen is id=8 and s3c... touchscreen is id=9 |
| 13:00.17 | JaMa | ah, you have udevd installed? |
| 13:00.55 | Fox_Muldr | have i? |
| 13:01.09 | Fox_Muldr | so udevd is the culprit of the problems? |
| 13:01.32 | JaMa | udev was enabled in latest xserver for as input config manager |
| 13:02.07 | JaMa | so it's probably why you got id=9 from it |
| 13:02.27 | JaMa | if you have it, try to uninstall it and reboot |
| 13:04.48 | JaMa | if that's the case then you should disable AutoAddDevices in xorg.conf |
| 13:05.03 | JaMa | you can also check it in Xorg.log |
| 13:05.23 | Fox_Muldr | so i think my newly created pointercal.xinput is wrong after i deinstalled udev and reboted? |
| 13:05.51 | JaMa | yes "Touchscreen" is right name for that device (without udev) |
| 13:06.09 | Fox_Muldr | ok than i deinstall udevd and copy the original pointercal.xinout back :) |
| 13:06.22 | JaMa | so you have it installed, right? |
| 13:06.46 | Fox_Muldr | i have installed: libudev0 udev udev-utils |
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| 13:07.16 | Fox_Muldr | so i should remove all three of them? |
| 13:08.08 | JaMa | you need libudev0 |
| 13:08.29 | Fox_Muldr | so i remove only "udev" |
| 13:08.44 | JaMa | it would also explain why switching from tslib to evdev fixed calibration for someone on ML |
| 13:09.13 | JaMa | because with evdev in xorg.conf, udev added ts is probably found as already added from xorg.conf |
| 13:09.34 | Fox_Muldr | i have complete reinstalled shr-u about a month ago from an image and after that only upgraded |
| 13:09.37 | JaMa | you can remove udev-utils too |
| 13:09.48 | Fox_Muldr | but udev never seemes to be removed later on |
| 13:09.54 | Fox_Muldr | ok i try it |
| 13:10.07 | JaMa | Fox_Muldr: udev packaging was broken and udev support in xserver enabled later |
| 13:11.05 | JaMa | http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=9b49b9b6431e4658c27fecf883396f428ca3f7b8 |
| 13:11.12 | JaMa | http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=6c1a8085ddcad763e58f03fe20b0f266bd1746d5 |
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| 13:14.20 | Fox_Muldr | JaMa: i deinstaled udev, copied back the original pointercal.xinut and now reboot. hope it gets better :) |
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| 13:15.19 | Fox_Muldr | JaMa: ok touchscreen has correct inputs. now i test the bounciness :) |
| 13:17.12 | Fox_Muldr | JaMa: now i only have touchscreen as input device with xinput --list and the bounciness is gone :D |
| 13:17.46 | JaMa | ok I'll post info to ML |
| 13:17.51 | JaMa | thanks for debuging |
| 13:18.49 | Fox_Muldr | JaMa: i have to thank you for your help :) |
| 13:19.12 | Fox_Muldr | and rotating is also working correct as long as i noly use "left" and "normal" :) |
| 13:20.10 | [Rui] | Fox_Muldr: and don't mind the dpi issue |
| 13:22.44 | Fox_Muldr | [Rui]: what dpi issue are reffering to? i can't find any big problems concerning the icons or fonts |
| 13:23.03 | [Rui] | Fox_Muldr: change from normal to left a few times then open vala terminal |
| 13:23.09 | [Rui] | fonts get smaller and smaller until unreadable |
| 13:23.57 | Fox_Muldr | [Rui]: so it happens after q few rotates. ok that maybe explains why the vala font is a little smaller than usual. but i don't thought this is wrong :) |
| 13:24.13 | [Rui] | well, a little is a favour |
| 13:24.27 | [Rui] | fbreader becomes unusable quickly, same as contacts, messages, dialer |
| 13:25.03 | Fox_Muldr | [Rui]: ok, so i have to reboot after a few rotates to get it back to nromal ;) |
| 13:25.57 | Fox_Muldr | until it is fixed... |
| 13:30.11 | Fox_Muldr | now it's time for lunch. i'm really hungry after such a debugging session. :) |
| 13:32.47 | Fox_Muldr | JaMa: concerning your mail: i never had the "AutoAddDevices" Entry in my xorg.conf |
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| 13:37.40 | JaMa | Fox_Muldr: I know.. that's why I said it should be added to ignore input devices reported by udevd |
| 13:38.37 | Fox_Muldr | JaMa: ah ok. i thought when this entry exists it will automatically add the devices |
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| 13:51.11 | JaMa | Fox_Muldr: it's enabled by default |
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| 15:33.22 | gena2x | JaMa: no, not possible. |
| 15:33.54 | JaMa | gena2x: I've already found the reason (that was name from udevd instead xorg.conf), thanks |
| 15:34.18 | JaMa | Fox_Muldr: new xorg.conf in feed |
| 15:34.28 | JaMa | Fox_Muldr: should work now even with udevd installed |
| 15:34.57 | gena2x | JaMa: ok. btw, update patch to latest version |
| 15:35.19 | gena2x | JaMa: it changes it's name usually due to order or loaded modules |
| 15:36.00 | JaMa | gena2x: v4 is latest? |
| 15:36.11 | gena2x | JaMa: yes, latest and final |
| 15:36.37 | JaMa | pushed 6days ago |
| 15:36.41 | JaMa | http://gitorious.org/~jama/htc-msm-2-6-32/openmoko-kernel/commit/66137c87913ef0015180be17dc9edf7a11cd528a |
| 15:37.23 | gena2x | JaMa: ah, i am watching to http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/linux/linux-openmoko-2.6.34 |
| 15:38.22 | JaMa | gena2x: then it's http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=924244aaaa83778e00592779a14fa71b1f3656b2 |
| 15:39.35 | JaMa | gena2x: diff between v3 and v4 iirc doesn't change much except formating so I didn't force rebuilding in OE and upgrade just for that |
| 15:40.55 | gena2x | JaMa: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=924244aaaa83778e00592779a14fa71b1f3656b2 <- v3. Yes, it should work in both cases. |
| 15:43.02 | JaMa | gena2x: as soon as there is support for gta01 in 2.6.34 I'll push patch removing older linux-openmoko kernels from OE and keeping only 2 patches against released tarballs (openmoko.patch from git.om) and (shr.patch from this gitorious repo) |
| 15:45.00 | gena2x | JaMa: oook, just do not forget to tell where to find latest shr kernel source for reference. |
| 15:46.42 | JaMa | that gitorious repo |
| 15:46.53 | JaMa | as always |
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| 15:52.52 | gena2x | done bubatt quest today. i saw it costs $120 to ship $2 battery here from digikey. after i tried all local components shops and found no capacitors and no batteries of appropriate size, i just got to local mobile fixing place and asked for bubatts from non-functional phones :) |
| 15:54.01 | gena2x | and btw, read that 'supercapacitors' are common reason of nokia phone breaks |
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| 16:22.46 | SpeedEvil | gena2x: :) |
| 16:23.34 | lindi- | gena2x: how do they break it? ;) |
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| 16:28.39 | alcy | folks, am getting a sweet price for the freerunner, I can't say what distro or firmware version the dealer has, but anything I should be aware of to ask the dealer first ? |
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| 16:28.54 | lindi- | alcy: well, what revision it is? |
| 16:29.06 | gena2x | alcy: ask for buzz fix, 1024 fix |
| 16:29.09 | lindi- | alcy: have you used gnu/linux before? |
| 16:29.46 | gena2x | alcy: buzz fix is really need for gsm (in most places i think) |
| 16:29.58 | gena2x | alcy: ah, also ask which gsm standard |
| 16:30.08 | gena2x | alcy: fr came i 2 favors |
| 16:30.12 | gena2x | *in |
| 16:30.41 | alcy | lindi: gena2x: yes, I am a linux guy, but yeah I only vaguely remembered about the buzz issue, thanks for the pointer ! will ask them. btw, in case you guys know this is the dealer am talkin about, http://www.idasystems.net/freerunner |
| 16:31.46 | gena2x | alcy: buzz-fix can be applied separately, 1024 will significantly reduce your standby time |
| 16:33.04 | gena2x | alcy: and where is also bass-fix, this is useful to improve sound quality in bass. only if you really have good ears. |
| 16:33.17 | gena2x | alcy: nothing else i think from hw point of view. |
| 16:33.59 | gena2x | alcy: from all this only buzz fix really must have. |
| 16:34.30 | gena2x | alcy: i think latest freerunners (a7?) are with buzz-fix included. |
| 16:34.32 | alcy | gena2x: I don't think the sales guy would know about the fixes, but the price is too good to let go ! I'll take my chances and ask him about these. Will surely ask about the buzz fix. Thanks a lot. :) |
| 16:34.57 | gena2x | alcy: btw, what is the price? i think, i want to buy second fr |
| 16:36.32 | gena2x | alcy: ah this is india |
| 16:36.35 | alcy | gena2x: not sure if the discount applies to foreigners(unless you are an Indian), but am getting it for ~273 $ ( this is a reduced price, right ?) |
| 16:37.23 | alcy | gena2x: its a festive discountt, mainly. |
| 16:37.34 | alcy | s/discountt/discount |
| 16:38.36 | gena2x | alcy: really, sounds not bad for me. |
| 16:39.14 | [Rui] | goldendelicus is selling A7+ for just a margin above that |
| 16:39.27 | alcy | gena2x: yup, India :) |
| 16:39.32 | [Rui] | A7+ includes buzz fix, #1024 fix, bass rework, etc |
| 16:39.40 | gena2x | ^^^ good. |
| 16:40.33 | gena2x | alcy what do you plan to do with fr? we have tons of bugs to fix and things to improve :) |
| 16:41.18 | lindi- | gena2x: nice marketing speech |
| 16:41.51 | gena2x | lindi-: heh, marketing? all this true |
| 16:42.14 | alcy | gena2x: I really want a new phone. :) And having played with dad's n900 for some time, I guess freerunner would be much more fun. would to love to contribute if I could. ;) |
| 16:43.17 | gena2x | alcy: yeaaah. it is really fun. |
| 16:43.39 | alcy | heh, cool. |
| 16:45.38 | gena2x | alcy: if you'll be lack of ideas of what to fix/improve, ask me :) |
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| 16:46.40 | gena2x | alcy: and do not to forget to update firmware and install latest qtmoko (v28) distibution to your phone. |
| 16:46.52 | gena2x | s/firmware/GSM firmware/ |
| 16:48.10 | alcy | gena2x: ah cool, thanks a lot. :) was inclining towards debian though, but I guess I can't escape the distro-hopping on a phone too. ;) |
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| 16:52.54 | gena2x | lindi-: forum where i read about supercapacitors is in russian and google seem fail to translate it to english. they told it can leak or even explode if heat up. |
| 16:53.21 | gena2x | lindi-: of course, not really reliable info, but still |
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| 16:54.52 | gena2x | back to dehydration of notebook |
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| 17:26.03 | pieterc | hi |
| 17:26.30 | pieterc | with the last 2 versions of SHR my X crashes after boot. Any remedy? |
| 17:27.38 | pieterc | (SHR unstable that is) |
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| 17:34.10 | lindi- | pieterc: got a backtrace? |
| 17:35.37 | pieterc | lindi-: nopes... can't even connect through ssh |
| 17:35.51 | pieterc | lindi-: I flashed the latest qi and kernel as well |
| 17:36.01 | pieterc | lindi-: could it be I should use another one? |
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| 17:41.49 | gena2x | pieterc: ssh can't be related to X11, and should work. carefully recheck that you flashed right kernel and modules matching your kernel |
| 17:42.15 | gena2x | pieterc: check addresses it should work |
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| 17:44.44 | pieterc | gena2x: what's the diff between ubi and non ubi qi? |
| 17:45.54 | gena2x | pieterc: ubi is filesystem in flash. we have 2 kinds of fs for our flash - ubi and jffs2. so you should use appropriate kernel parameters to boot appropriate fs pi |
| 17:46.38 | gena2x | pieterc: if you choose wrong fs, it should just stop while booting saying something like 'can't mount rootfs' |
| 17:46.59 | gena2x | pieterc: but i have no qi, so don't know anything more about it. |
| 17:47.18 | pieterc | I booted with u-boot now and I get an fatal error now |
| 17:47.39 | gena2x | pieterc: uboot should be configured to boot ubi filesystem |
| 17:47.41 | pieterc | could not load ..../modules.dep not such file or dir |
| 17:48.11 | gena2x | pieterc: by default u-boot boots jffs2 |
| 17:48.19 | pieterc | gena2x: yes - I flashed a jffs2 |
| 17:48.27 | gena2x | pieterc: it's not easy to reconfigure u-boot in nor |
| 17:48.49 | gena2x | pieterc: but if you using u-boot in nand and jffs2 version of your distro it should work |
| 17:49.32 | pieterc | gena2x: hm. It doesnt. Cant find modules.dep â this means I flashed the wrong kernel? |
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| 17:49.57 | gena2x | pieterc: it should boot without modules.dep. but this message means either your modules not matching your kernel or something wrong internally in your distro. |
| 17:50.10 | gena2x | pieterc: more probably you flashed something wrong. |
| 17:50.56 | pieterc | gena2x: hm... I just flashed the latest kernel on the SHR unstable and the latest rootfs |
| 17:51.04 | pieterc | I'll re-flash my kernel |
| 17:51.19 | gena2x | pieterc: sorry, i can't tell you about shr - i am qtmoko user. |
| 17:52.05 | pieterc | gena2x: np, I'm already glad you gave me this information - Haven't used my moko in a while ;-) |
| 17:52.36 | gena2x | pieterc: oh, try it. it is nice now. especially try qtmoko v28 :) |
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| 17:54.23 | gena2x | pieterc: i just didn't run shr for a while. don't know the state. but i like my qtmoko. |
| 17:55.06 | pieterc | gena2x: does it run gtk apps yet? |
| 17:55.22 | pieterc | gena2x: can I apt-get? |
| 17:55.36 | pieterc | (or opkg ;-)) |
| 17:55.45 | gena2x | pieterc: it is based on debian, so apt-get as much as you want |
| 17:55.54 | pieterc | gena2x: link? |
| 17:55.56 | pieterc | ;-) |
| 17:56.14 | gena2x | pieterc: it has qx, which should run any X11 app |
| 17:56.31 | gena2x | pieterc: but i didn't even tried it :) |
| 17:56.39 | gena2x | pieterc: ... yet |
| 17:57.46 | gena2x | pieterc: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-October/063493.html |
| 17:57.56 | pieterc | awesome - SHR boots with older kernel :p |
| 17:58.12 | pieterc | I'll test SHR first |
| 17:58.24 | pieterc | if it's a disapointment i'll try qtmoko |
| 17:58.47 | pieterc | gena2x: link bookmarked |
| 17:58.55 | gena2x | pieterc: if you'll be testing qtmoko, update kernel: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-October/063519.html |
| 17:59.22 | gena2x | pieterc: i like in freerunner that I can test tons of different things. |
| 18:04.39 | gena2x | hmmm. marketing day? :) |
| 18:05.18 | gena2x | but my notebook working after getting wet in rain, so i am happy :) |
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| 18:22.47 | pieterc | gena2x: going to flash qtmoko |
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| 18:28.59 | pieterc | gena2x: flashing ;-) |
| 18:29.31 | gena2x | pieterc: would be interesting to hear how do you like/dislike it. |
| 18:30.27 | pieterc | gena2x: if I can access my contacts on sim, can send smses, do phonecalls, and access my wifi |
| 18:30.29 | pieterc | I will be happy |
| 18:30.29 | pieterc | ;-) |
| 18:30.49 | pieterc | any thing I should not expect? |
| 18:31.15 | gena2x | pieterc: usure about current state of wiki, but everything else should work. |
| 18:31.24 | gena2x | *unsure |
| 18:31.26 | gena2x | *wifi |
| 18:31.58 | pieterc | gena2x: you use political correct terms |
| 18:32.04 | pieterc | like unsure, and should |
| 18:32.05 | pieterc | ;-) |
| 18:34.01 | gena2x | pieterc: hmmm. seem this is i am. is it good or bad? |
| 18:36.01 | pieterc | :D |
| 18:37.13 | gena2x | thinks: damn lindi, he started all this marketing associations |
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| 18:42.40 | pieterc | gena2x: to boot ubi fs I only have to flash that qi right? |
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| 18:46.31 | pieterc | gena2x: booting up |
| 18:47.19 | pieterc | gena2x: looks really great so far |
| 18:49.22 | pieterc | gena2x: the fu*k? Pressing power kills it? |
| 18:49.54 | [Rui] | pieterc: hi there! |
| 18:50.03 | pieterc | [Rui]: Hi Rui! |
| 18:50.05 | gena2x | pieterc: no, it just suspends |
| 18:50.19 | pieterc | gena2x: I couldn't wake it up ;-) |
| 18:50.27 | pieterc | rebooting is pretty fast though |
| 18:50.28 | gena2x | pieterc: press power again |
| 18:51.06 | pieterc | gena2x: damn... I think I got myself a phone again |
| 18:51.23 | gena2x | pieterc: ? |
| 18:51.39 | gena2x | pieterc: what's wrong? |
| 18:51.53 | pieterc | gena2x: it was positive ;-) |
| 18:52.03 | pieterc | gena2x: like: Wow, I can use my moko again! |
| 18:52.08 | gena2x | pieterc: :) |
| 18:52.22 | pieterc | gena2x: and it rcognizes all my contacts out of the box! |
| 18:52.47 | pieterc | and it has voip and gtalk |
| 18:52.47 | pieterc | Teh Awesome |
| 18:53.04 | gena2x | pieterc: i just used to get negative expressions :) |
| 18:53.37 | gena2x | pieterc: don't know about voip, never tried |
| 18:53.56 | pieterc | gena2x: haha, I've been using my moko as primary phone with SHR for 1.5 year |
| 18:54.00 | pieterc | now picking it up again :p |
| 18:54.07 | pieterc | So I know what it can do ;-) |
| 18:54.13 | pieterc | or: I know what it can't do :p |
| 18:54.29 | gena2x | pieterc: hehe, you _don't know_ that it can do :) |
| 18:55.36 | pieterc | gena2x: ;-) |
| 18:56.08 | pieterc | gena2x: keyboard? |
| 18:56.38 | gena2x | pieterc: in qtmoko? very good, finger friendly. |
| 18:56.48 | pieterc | gena2x: yes, but how do I bring it up :p |
| 18:57.00 | pieterc | I'm in the terminal now |
| 18:57.26 | gena2x | pieterc: ah, in terminal only stylus-friendly keyboard |
| 18:57.36 | gena2x | use 'change input method' |
| 18:57.54 | pieterc | yes but how do I get the keyboard? |
| 18:57.56 | pieterc | I don't have one |
| 18:57.58 | gena2x | default input method is handwriting i think |
| 18:58.27 | gena2x | pieterc: in bottom of screen touch button |
| 18:58.32 | gena2x | it will open menu |
| 18:58.41 | gena2x | and use 'change input method' |
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| 18:59.05 | gena2x | until you get kbd with many-many keys |
| 19:00.31 | pieterc | found it! |
| 19:01.10 | pieterc | damnnn |
| 19:01.12 | pieterc | no wifi? |
| 19:01.32 | gena2x | i think it should work, but i didn't tried |
| 19:01.44 | gena2x | may be you should turn it on somehow and setup |
| 19:03.19 | pieterc | hmm |
| 19:03.26 | pieterc | have to catch a train |
| 19:03.32 | pieterc | will be back in 2 hours ;-) |
| 19:03.35 | pieterc | will test then |
| 19:03.38 | pieterc | bye |
| 19:03.42 | gena2x | gl |
| 19:03.42 | pieterc | and thanks for the help |
| 19:03.47 | gena2x | np |
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