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| 00:45.15 | chomwitt | how do i control sound level in shr ? |
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| 07:58.01 | chomwitt | my new microSD card is mounted in shr-t as read only. /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/card type vfat (ro,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1) .why is that? |
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| 13:23.50 | bert31wvl | hi, quick question about reading SIM-card to find deleted messages |
| 13:23.54 | bert31wvl | howot? |
| 13:23.57 | bert31wvl | howto? |
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| 13:27.46 | PaulFertser | bert31wvl: why do you think it's possible in the first place? |
| 13:29.15 | bert31wvl | I read in some forums that deleted messages remain on the card, just like if you delete files on a harddisk, only the reference is deleted, not the actual content |
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| 13:32.07 | bert31wvl | what would be the best phone (for business) to buy? |
| 13:32.48 | max_posedon_ | bert31wvl, are you sure, that this channel best place for asking? |
| 13:32.53 | PaulFertser | bert31wvl: probably you can recover deleted messages with a dedicated smart-card reader and special software, but i do not know any details, sorry. |
| 13:33.52 | bert31wvl | I would like a commercial phone wher I can install an opensource OS on, like openmoko |
| 13:34.05 | PaulFertser | bert31wvl: yeah, this channel is the place where a bunch of geeks gather, and geeks usually have values not exactly compatible with those of businesses. |
| 13:36.43 | bert31wvl | i'm a ubuntu user myself and experimenting, that 's why I'd like such a phone, but I would also use this phone for our business (so for starting I would use the installed OS) BUT I would love to experiment with opensource on it |
| 13:38.22 | SpeedEvil | I personally like my n900. |
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| 13:38.48 | SpeedEvil | It's probably the closest thing to an 'open-source' phone available on the market today. |
| 13:38.59 | bert31wvl | I can do things like dualboot then? or should I chose? |
| 13:39.02 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 13:39.58 | SpeedEvil | there have been/are several OSs booted on the n900, with varying degrees of polish and success. |
| 13:40.36 | SpeedEvil | From BSD, which is just at the kernel stage, to merego, which is the upcoming OS for smartphones and thingies being pushed by nokia and intel |
| 13:40.36 | pabs3 | can anything other than the stock Maemo OS charge the battery yet? |
| 13:40.40 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 13:40.49 | SpeedEvil | battery charging is a several line shellscript |
| 13:41.09 | SpeedEvil | There are people working onmaking it shiny |
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| 13:41.44 | pabs3 | nice |
| 13:41.45 | bert31wvl | nice, I'll check it out, I was surfing and found the google phone and the HTC (google) to be the most advanced... correct? and can they also dualboot with an oss OS? |
| 13:42.09 | SpeedEvil | It depends what you mean. |
| 13:42.44 | SpeedEvil | I personally don't count phones that you have to root as 'open-source'-able - even they run linux, and you can put whatever on them. |
| 13:43.04 | SpeedEvil | As you have no guarantee that teh one you buy from the shop next week will not have better security. |
| 13:46.05 | bert31wvl | thx speedevil |
| 13:46.35 | SpeedEvil | However, various people have commented that the n900 isn't great as a phone. |
| 13:46.53 | SpeedEvil | I am not in a very goid position to comment on this, as I have made about 5 calls with it. |
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| 13:47.14 | SpeedEvil | But I can see that per-contact ringtone for example might be annoying by being missed out. |
| 13:48.35 | pabs3 | that sounds like a software thing |
| 13:48.49 | SpeedEvil | yes. |
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| 15:36.19 | slaxxer | so whats the status on gta04? |
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| 15:54.12 | SpeedEvil | It's pining for the fjoords. |
| 15:55.29 | SpeedEvil | Basically, someone needs to stump up a large pile of cash. |
| 15:55.33 | SpeedEvil | Or it's not happening. |
| 15:55.49 | SpeedEvil | Where large is a large part of a million dollars. |
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| 16:12.27 | badcloud | SpeedEvil: hahahaha (M. Python reference) |
| 16:12.47 | mickeyl | it's actually happening, but not from OM |
| 16:13.02 | badcloud | mickeyl: cool |
| 16:13.23 | badcloud | is an physical kbd part of the plan? |
| 16:13.25 | mickeyl | Dr. Niklaus Schaller from Goldelico (OM distributor germany) is spending quite some amount of energy in future open phones |
| 16:13.51 | badcloud | mickeyl: niHIce |
| 16:14.54 | SpeedEvil | Interesting. |
| 16:14.59 | badcloud | :( no phys kbd? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA03 |
| 16:15.00 | mickeyl | afaik not for 04, but for 05. there are various designs in discussion with various freaky components (rfid, fpga, and stuff) |
| 16:15.22 | mickeyl | what will see the light of day depends on who's ordering a bunch |
| 16:15.28 | SpeedEvil | However, I would guess this would not be a consumer phone, at a consumer price-point? |
| 16:15.58 | SpeedEvil | Well - barring the above large fractions of a million. |
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| 16:17.21 | mickeyl | well, afaiu the idea is to get a sufficiently big order for a client so that the device can see the light of day at all. and once that happens, small series might be produced based on preorder |
| 16:17.28 | badcloud | what would fpga be used for? |
| 16:17.46 | mickeyl | there are some scientific researchers demanding an FPGA |
| 16:17.51 | mickeyl | don't ask me for details |
| 16:17.53 | SpeedEvil | ... |
| 16:17.58 | badcloud | mickeyl: k |
| 16:17.58 | SpeedEvil | SDR? |
| 16:17.59 | mickeyl | full of crazy ideas, those folks |
| 16:18.05 | SpeedEvil | - FPGA |
| 16:18.09 | badcloud | I love the idea of rfid |
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