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| 09:17.54 | Wonka | http://fun.drno.de/pics/english/ophone-leak.jpg |
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| 15:29.36 | PBeck | hi |
| 15:32.02 | SpeedEvil | ih |
| 15:33.03 | PaulF | SpeedEvil: http://marc.info/?l=linux-wireless&m=128404502308426&w=2 |
| 15:33.17 | PaulF | Broadcrap releases a modern free driver for their broadshit. |
| 15:33.25 | SpeedEvil | neat! |
| 15:33.25 | PaulF | Without a word of apology, fuckers. |
| 15:34.02 | SpeedEvil | You mean WRT not supporting it in the past? |
| 15:34.12 | SpeedEvil | I'd not been looking at the history. |
| 15:34.32 | SpeedEvil | What I actually want at the moment is a cheap chipset that can do WPA/... onboard. |
| 15:34.42 | SpeedEvil | Oh - obtainable. |
| 15:34.47 | SpeedEvil | But that seems unlikely |
| 15:34.50 | Wonka | use any OpenWrt supported Atheros SoC |
| 15:34.59 | Wonka | TP-Link WR1043ND |
| 15:35.38 | SpeedEvil | I mean to stick in a product costing $50 |
| 15:36.04 | SpeedEvil | the size of a postage stamp or so |
| 15:43.39 | PaulF | SpeedEvil: i do not care about hardware, software or code. I care about people. I know many talented people spent helluva time reversing their proprietary drivers. |
| 15:43.51 | PaulF | SpeedEvil: i mean they're guilty of spending time of those brave men. |
| 15:45.08 | SpeedEvil | Yes, and no. |
| 15:45.23 | SpeedEvil | Those people did not completely waste that time. |
| 15:45.27 | PaulF | Surely |
| 15:45.34 | SpeedEvil | They have learned skills, made contacts, ... |
| 15:45.41 | PaulF | But i'm sure they could have spent it more efficiently. |
| 15:45.51 | SpeedEvil | Sure. |
| 15:46.36 | SpeedEvil | And you can't personalise companies too much. |
| 15:46.54 | SpeedEvil | For example - the release may be due to one guy changing jobs. |
| 15:46.56 | PaulF | I can and do and will |
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| 15:48.39 | PaulF | SpeedEvil: also: it's the particular guy doing the announcement btw. |
| 15:49.20 | SpeedEvil | Unlikely, unless he's either managment, or doing it without corporate resources. |
| 15:51.54 | PaulF | SpeedEvil: every corporation consists of people. One shouldn't keep silence because his corporation thinks he should. If he feels like apologising, he must do it, personally, on behalf of his own. |
| 15:52.41 | SpeedEvil | 'one shouldn't' is easy to say if it's not your job. |
| 15:53.33 | PaulF | SpeedEvil: if someone from openmoko does nasty things to another man, and i notice that, i will feel partially responsible for that, and i will say i'm sorry. |
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| 15:54.40 | PaulF | SpeedEvil: and if the company that i work for does something i feel i need to say about, i will. If i fired, well, that'd just prove this company's shit and i shouldn't be working there. |
| 15:55.42 | SpeedEvil | Fair enough - and that''s a courageous decision - many people don't feel free to do that - and inmany cases, I find it hard to blame them. |
| 15:57.18 | PaulF | SpeedEvil: i think that a reasonably sane person can always find some job for a living. But if he demands too much, well, that'd be bad too, meaning he exchanges his own (unnecessary, fake) needs for the moral and honest attitude to the people. |
| 15:59.41 | PaulF | I mean consumerism society's values are all fake, and if one understands that he doesn't need much money to live. |
| 16:01.13 | SpeedEvil | Sure. Which canbe harder to argue if you've got a house and family. |
| 16:01.52 | PaulF | Guess i'm lucky then. |
| 16:04.14 | PaulF | SpeedEvil: but i really hope that even if i get one someday, i still won't change my "childing and idealistic" attitude. And i think i've seen some successful examples here in RU. |
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