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| 08:12.33 | Wonka | nope, everyone sleeping |
| 08:12.46 | rooly | ahh |
| 08:12.54 | rooly | how's your candy factory coming along? |
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| 14:45.29 | Bert_2 | Say, does anyone know whether any of the distros for the FreeRunner have the musb driver ? |
| 14:45.49 | Bert_2 | (I'm doing research on the PS Freedom app, but it needs musb apparently) |
| 14:47.17 | lindi- | Bert_2: I hope you noticed that there's a license problem with ps freedom app? |
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| 14:48.23 | Wonka | "ps freedom app"? what's that? |
| 14:48.29 | mark320 | hhello all |
| 14:48.43 | lindi- | Wonka: usb gadget driver to jailbreak playstation3 afaik |
| 14:48.52 | Wonka | ah |
| 14:49.10 | mark320 | I wanted to know an information |
| 14:49.15 | lindi- | Wonka: ironically it's not compatible with the license of linux... |
| 14:49.26 | mark320 | first there is someone who speaks in Italian language? |
| 14:50.04 | mark320 | second thing to you is supported handheld i-mate K-JAM which the processor OMAP850 |
| 14:50.20 | lindi- | mark320: supported by what? |
| 14:50.48 | mark320 | if my PocketPC is supported? |
| 14:50.57 | lindi- | mark320: yes but supported by what? |
| 14:51.03 | Wonka | hmmm... just had a crazy idea... |
| 14:51.20 | mark320 | audio video if it works ... etc. |
| 14:51.32 | lindi- | mark320: i don't think you understand my question |
| 14:51.37 | Wonka | multiple gadgets are possible, nor? like cdc ethernet and usb storage? |
| 14:51.42 | lindi- | Wonka: not easily |
| 14:51.56 | mark320 | I say if you run it in my supporter for OpenMoko device? |
| 14:52.08 | Wonka | lindi-: I thought I saw such thing in 2.6.35 lately |
| 14:52.09 | lindi- | Wonka: linux does it with some ugly preprocessor hack that #includes c files |
| 14:52.27 | lindi- | mark320: openmoko distribution is not developed anymore |
| 14:53.09 | lindi- | mark320: distributions like SHR, qtmoko, debian run on openmoko hardware and other pieces of hardware |
| 14:53.20 | mark320 | I wanted to know how to install OpenMoko on a win mobile device that is installing from SD so I can have both Linux and Win Entertainment |
| 14:53.28 | lindi- | mark320: you don't want to install openmoko |
| 14:53.34 | Wonka | lindi-: use cdc ethernet to provide Internet access, and use usb storage to provide a boot.kernel.org boot image capable of using cdc ethernet :> |
| 14:54.29 | mark320 | I wish you set it however I need a good guide but there directly with the image img place has to do with the partition? |
| 14:54.30 | Q-Master | lindi-: may the force be with you. 8))) |
| 14:54.58 | lindi- | mark320: I think you need to find somebody who speaks italian |
| 14:55.18 | mark320 | yes |
| 14:55.45 | Bert_2 | lindi-: of course I know there are license issues |
| 14:55.56 | lindi- | Bert_2: ah, good |
| 14:56.28 | Bert_2 | I just want to try to get it working |
| 14:56.43 | Q-Master | Bert_2: /me is waiting for you try. |
| 14:56.54 | Bert_2 | why are you still waiting Q-Master |
| 14:56.55 | Bert_2 | ? |
| 14:57.17 | mark320 | I think you need to find somebody who speaks italian |
| 14:57.20 | Q-Master | no time to do that myself. too busy at work |
| 14:58.28 | Bert_2 | Q-Master: well, if I have the right modules installed and nuke out the N900 specific code |
| 14:58.42 | Bert_2 | I should, at least compile |
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| 15:02.51 | mark320 | response one italian |
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| 15:07.18 | Bert_2 | Q-Master: according to the PSfreedom website, we are using S3C-24xx, work on our version is in progress: http://wiki.psfreedom.com/wiki/Device_compatibility_list |
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| 15:09.10 | Q-Master | Bert_2: yep. I've seen that |
| 15:10.06 | mark320 | sorry about OpenMoko and OMAP850 processor compatible or not? |
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| 15:12.33 | SparFux | Hi. Can anybody tell me what the chances are to install openmoko on a Samsung H1? |
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| 15:12.58 | mark320_ | Response |
| 15:13.02 | mark320_ | thanks |
| 15:14.55 | mark320_ | ? |
| 15:15.02 | SparFux | Hello? |
| 15:15.14 | SparFux | mark, you just left the room. ;-) |
| 15:15.19 | mark320_ | SparFux you speak italian? |
| 15:15.24 | SparFux | Nope. |
| 15:17.16 | SparFux | Would you say that it's better to buy a mobile with LiMo installed rather than with windows installed? |
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| 16:52.50 | PBeck | hi |
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| 19:33.00 | SparFux1 | Hi. Bad news for the Samsung H1: http://h1.pargon.nl/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_H1_OneNAND |
| 19:34.48 | SpeedEvil | That's quite irrelevant to running other OSs on it. |
| 19:35.30 | PBeck | and boot from sd card? |
| 19:35.48 | SparFux1 | It is? sounds like it is a rom. |
| 19:35.55 | PBeck | (how fast is it im comparison to the internal memory) |
| 19:36.17 | SpeedEvil | Onenand is a flash chip |
| 19:36.22 | SparFux1 | this phone has 16GB of internal flash installed. |
| 19:36.47 | SpeedEvil | It's just a NAND flash chip. It's not ROM. |
| 19:36.54 | SparFux1 | SpeedEvil: if so, why would it be "There is generally no possibility to store data on it. Even through root access it is limited through the use of cramfs for most things. " |
| 19:37.11 | SpeedEvil | Because who ever wrote that has no clue. |
| 19:37.31 | SpeedEvil | Blank all but the bootloader and kernel, and put a ubifs filesystem on there. |
| 19:37.58 | SparFux1 | SpeedEvil: Can we be sure this is even possible? |
| 19:38.21 | SparFux1 | SpeedEvil: I mean, I cannot solder out the chip, put ubifs on it and resolder it in :-\ |
| 19:40.08 | SparFux1 | But I see no report anybody has ever gotten a root shell on the H1. |
| 19:40.14 | SpeedEvil | If you have root, you can do it. |
| 19:40.42 | SpeedEvil | If you do not have root, or the ability to flash that chip, you can't boot any other OS. |
| 19:41.06 | SpeedEvil | Saying it's impossible because you can't 'store data' on it is completely wrong though. |
| 19:41.41 | SparFux1 | Ok, thx for info. I am still checking for reports of root shells on that phone ;-) |
| 19:42.17 | SpeedEvil | The n900 uses a - 256M - onenand formatted with ubifs - for example. |
| 19:44.37 | PBeck | thinks we all should buy a N900 and get shr and co working. So we have all what we need :) |
| 19:45.38 | SparFux1 | but that all means, I can trash the whole phone with flashing the chip. |
| 19:46.29 | SparFux1 | the nexus one is ~400 Euro. The Samsung H1 is 174 Euro. That's a difference for similar computing power! |
| 19:46.29 | SpeedEvil | yes. |
| 19:47.27 | SpeedEvil | Unless you do something like convice the bootloader to boot from the SD |
| 19:47.46 | SparFux1 | At least the seem to be able to view the linux system on the phone H1: http://www.limo-os.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6 |
| 19:48.24 | SpeedEvil | First get the kernel source. |
| 19:51.57 | fgau | http://img823.imageshack.us/f/img6190gv.jpg/ |
| 19:51.59 | fgau | muuah |
| 19:57.29 | SparFux1 | I will look into samsung published source, 153 MB : http://opensource.samsungmobile.com/download/OpenSource/GT-I8320_OpenSource.zip |
| 19:57.31 | SparFux1 | That's the H1. |
| 19:59.33 | SpeedEvil | kernel andbootloader source. |
| 20:05.42 | SparFux1 | they seem to have gotten a root shell, yay. |
| 20:05.56 | SparFux1 | one posting in the long thread reads: "i've also managed to get root acces on the phone via telnet...but /etc and /usr are mounted read only (because of cramfs). Is there any possibilty to write on this partitions (e.g. editing config files)? or will i have to flash the phone every time, to edit some files?" |
| 20:08.35 | SparFux1 | Cool! They got root! http://www.limo-os.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6&start=110 I think I'll buy the phone. |
| 20:18.42 | SparFux1 | The last thing would be wether there are free software drivers for all the devices on board. But that yet stays to remain discovered I think. |
| 20:28.08 | SpeedEvil | look at the source |
| 20:49.41 | SparFux1 | It's easy to get root on that device! You just modify the firmware tarball and do a firmware upgrade :-) |
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