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| 00:25.38 | dEVOted | Hello? |
| 00:26.54 | dEVOted | echo....echo........echo............. |
| 00:27.12 | dEVOted | remembers when this was a bustling place of activity. |
| 00:27.35 | dEVOted | hates to see such a wonderful thing die so unnoticed. |
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| 00:29.02 | dEVOted | hello DiodomanX |
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| 00:35.28 | dEVOted | DOES NOBODY CARE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! |
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| 00:44.43 | SpeedEvil | It's somewhart more dead trhan irt was, for obvious reasons. |
| 00:44.59 | dEVOted | I'm here |
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| 01:01.16 | zzhan17 | Hi, i am a new comer and want to burn NEOPhysis image on my freerunner |
| 01:01.23 | zzhan17 | when i uncompress the rootfs .tar.gz, what I found is the root fs directory instead of a .jffs2 image |
| 01:01.29 | zzhan17 | how to make the root directory into jffs2? or how to burn it to freerunner correctly? |
| 01:01.34 | zzhan17 | could anyone answer my questions? thanks |
| 01:03.07 | SpeedEvil | there is a mkjffs or similar program - I forget what ti's called |
| 01:03.16 | SpeedEvil | also - it may be intended to go on a SD |
| 01:03.25 | SpeedEvil | that's not jffs |
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| 01:06.00 | zzhan17 | yeah. so I simplely copied all files onto SD card |
| 01:06.17 | zzhan17 | if i remeber correctly, it won't work |
| 01:06.39 | zzhan17 | Freerunner want to load kernel image from SD card instead of root fs |
| 01:07.27 | SpeedEvil | unsure. |
| 01:07.29 | SpeedEvil | Sorry |
| 01:07.53 | zzhan17 | anyway, thanks. will try mkfs.jffs2. |
| 01:08.01 | zzhan17 | looks like it is the right way to go |
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| 01:52.17 | zzhan17 | haha, i made it! neoPhysis start running on my freerunner |
| 01:52.53 | zzhan17 | however, i don't know how to install a new package. no apt-get or yum. :-( |
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| 04:02.53 | pabs3 | from SHR-u: * check_data_file_clashes: Package libcrypto1.0.0 wants to install file /usr/lib/ssl/openssl.cnf But that file is already provided by package * libcrypto0.9.8 |
| 04:26.06 | DiodomanX | anyone have debian tarball? |
| 04:26.11 | DiodomanX | i really need it |
| 04:26.38 | da4089 | for what target? |
| 04:26.47 | DiodomanX | neo freerunner |
| 04:26.51 | DiodomanX | GTA0 |
| 04:26.56 | DiodomanX | GTA02 |
| 04:29.08 | DiodomanX | i was trying to install it with qtmoko and shr |
| 04:29.16 | DiodomanX | but always say internal error |
| 04:29.32 | DiodomanX | sometimes in debian stage and sometimes in apt stage |
| 04:30.29 | da4089 | i installed QtMoko on my Neo1973 (GTA01) on the weekend. |
| 04:30.54 | da4089 | it was pretty easy in the end |
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| 04:31.25 | DiodomanX | yes i have qtmoko installes and want to install debian on sd |
| 04:32.15 | da4089 | you have qtmoko-debian-v24.tar.gz? |
| 04:32.28 | DiodomanX | no jffs2 |
| 04:34.47 | da4089 | i used an ext3 partition, mounted it on my desktop, and just untarred that file into the mounted partition. |
| 04:35.10 | DiodomanX | you mean qtmoko based on debian |
| 04:35.14 | da4089 | yep |
| 04:35.19 | DiodomanX | but i want debian itself |
| 04:36.14 | DiodomanX | im using install.sh |
| 04:36.26 | DiodomanX | but always receive a error message |
| 04:36.37 | brian__ | did u install bash first? |
| 04:37.46 | da4089 | sorry, i haven't tried raw debian install. |
| 04:38.16 | brian__ | i used install.sh with a shr install |
| 04:38.29 | brian__ | 3 weeks ago i guess |
| 04:39.24 | brian__ | i had sdcard issues for a long time an changed cards an it installed |
| 04:40.08 | da4089 | i had card reader issues; got new USB-SD adaptor and had it running in 30 minutes. |
| 04:41.22 | DiodomanX | i try with two diferent sd cards |
| 04:41.25 | brian__ | ya the 12 dollar targus works for a cheapie |
| 04:45.02 | da4089 | DiodomanX: did you find the kernel image? looks like it's in http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/obsolete-images/framework/ now |
| 04:49.13 | DiodomanX | i was trying milestone 5.5 |
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| 06:11.39 | zzhan171 | does openmoko modem support multi GPRS contexts at the same time? |
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| 06:27.59 | DocScrutinizer | contexts? |
| 06:41.10 | PaulF | DocScrutinizer: yes, it's called "context", one can set it with e.g. AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","internet.beeline.ru". But you can have several contexts and some modems support activating several at the same time. |
| 06:42.01 | PaulF | DocScrutinizer: i think zzhan171 might want that for being able to use both "internet" and "mms" APNs at the same time. |
| 06:42.30 | lindi- | +CGDCONT=[<cid> [,<PDP_type> [,<APN>[,<PDP_addr> [,<d_comp> [,<h_comp> [,<pd1> [,...[,pdN]]]]]]]]] |
| 06:42.58 | lindi- | and "<APN>: (Access Point Name)" |
| 06:43.05 | DocScrutinizer51 | mhm, but I'd guess you need separate channels for the different APNs |
| 06:44.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | but honestly I'd doubt calypso can do this |
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| 06:46.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | anyway seems calypso can support max 4 channels via 0710mux |
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| 06:50.03 | PaulF | Indeed |
| 06:57.41 | zzhan171 | PaulF: yeah. |
| 06:58.10 | zzhan171 | i want to know does it support multiple contexts activated at the same time. Does FreeRunner support that? |
| 06:58.42 | zzhan171 | does calypso supoprt that? using different mux channel? |
| 06:58.45 | PaulF | zzhan171: probably mickeyl have tried that but i'm not sure. I guess it'd be faster if you tried it yourself. |
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| 06:59.57 | zhenhua | but once you use ppp activate one ppp0 context, how to dial another one? |
| 07:00.50 | PaulF | zhenhua: get fso-abyss, manually ask it for 2 channels. |
| 07:01.22 | PaulF | zhenhua: then connect socat to one of that and enter commands needed to register to the network manually |
| 07:01.43 | PaulF | zhenhua: then preset two different context (1, 2) |
| 07:02.08 | PaulF | zhenhua: then you can type ATD*99#1 on one channel and ATD*99#2 on another. |
| 07:02.25 | PaulF | zhenhua: if you see ppp "garbage" on both at the same time, it probably works. |
| 07:03.32 | zhenhua | PaulF: thanks. will try then. |
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| 07:14.34 | PaulF | zhenhua: you can also use good-old method "connect 'chat \'\' ATD*99#1" for pppd parameter to be really sure the sessions work. I mean you ask for one channel, then with socat on it prepare the modem, then you ask for another and start pppd on it, and the same for the third. blablabla |
| 07:15.43 | zhenhua | PaulF: normally, i think modem has two ports, one for data, one for command |
| 07:16.15 | zhenhua | however, i only see one port with mux support on calypso. (i am still new comer for TI modem) |
| 07:16.51 | zhenhua | do you mean to put "connect 'chat'" into ppd profile file? |
| 07:17.20 | zhenhua | i can try to use pppd chat later. |
| 07:18.10 | zhenhua | btw, how does gsmd2 do gprs connect? i'd like to see code. ;-) |
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| 07:18.32 | PaulF | zhenhua: calypso supports 4 muxed channels |
| 07:18.41 | PaulF | zhenhua: gsmd2, what's that? |
| 07:19.14 | zhenhua | the source of fso project, isn't it? |
| 07:19.23 | lindi- | zhenhua: fso has written two |
| 07:19.32 | zhenhua | git://git.freesmartphone.org/gsmd2.git |
| 07:20.24 | zhenhua | gsmd is 1st and no more maintained. right? |
| 07:21.01 | lindi- | zhenhua: gsmd was written by harald |
| 07:21.36 | lindi- | zhenhua: then there was pyneo |
| 07:21.57 | lindi- | zhenhua: then fso forked/rewrote pyneo and called it fso-ogsmd |
| 07:22.21 | lindi- | zhenhua: at some point qt entered the picture, don't know exactly when |
| 07:22.57 | zhenhua | lindi-: so...which one should i look into? fso-ogsmd? |
| 07:23.04 | lindi- | zhenhua: It depends no who you ask |
| 07:23.13 | lindi- | zhenhua: and what do you want |
| 07:23.25 | zhenhua | which one is used in SHR? ;-) |
| 07:23.33 | JaMa | fsogsmd |
| 07:23.49 | zhenhua | thanks |
| 07:27.38 | zhenhua | lindi-: JaMa: i don't find fso-ogsmd's git repo on http://git.freesmartphone.org/ |
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| 07:28.29 | PaulF | zhenhua: it's in cornucopia |
| 07:28.31 | PaulF | zhenhua: fsogsmd |
| 07:28.42 | zhenhua | I see. thanks |
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| 07:33.57 | lindi- | zhenhua: hmm, it's in framworkd |
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| 07:34.21 | lindi- | zhenhua: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=summary |
| 07:46.59 | Heinervdm | ogsmd is in frameworkd, fsogsmd is in cornucopia |
| 07:47.18 | Heinervdm | ogsmd is used in SHR-testing, fsogsmd is used in SHR-unstable |
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| 07:50.15 | JaMa | and SHR-testing from may (in tests dir) also uses fsogsmd |
| 07:50.54 | JaMa | Heinervdm: do you have an idea about why numbers should be truncated by 1 char in that testing shr-t? |
| 07:51.24 | JaMa | Heinervdm: from http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td5307993 |
| 07:55.03 | Heinervdm | JaMa: while importing from SIM? |
| 07:55.32 | JaMa | I know only what is written in that thread.. |
| 07:55.59 | JaMa | but yes as I understand it |
| 07:58.27 | Heinervdm | hmm, since switch to 2.6.32 i have noise in X |
| 08:01.27 | JaMa | temporary? like gray dots which are gone after redraw? |
| 08:05.10 | Heinervdm | in aceofpenguins ther are often "ghost cards" |
| 08:05.36 | Heinervdm | Now i had a grey illume launcher with some black dots |
| 08:10.49 | Heinervdm | after redrawing it's gone |
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| 10:01.22 | JameswStubbs | Hello, where's the best place to get a second hand freerunner in the Uk? |
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| 10:03.29 | JameswStubbs | Or is anyone selling one? :D |
| 10:03.37 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: ebay probably? ;) |
| 10:04.09 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: some offers appear on community ML sometimes |
| 10:04.46 | JameswStubbs | PaulF: Yeh, There's ONE on eBay :) I put a £15 bid on it but O |
| 10:04.47 | JameswStubbs | I |
| 10:04.59 | JameswStubbs | I've already been outbid, going to snipe it in a coule of days |
| 10:05.06 | JameswStubbs | ML? |
| 10:05.40 | JameswStubbs | I'm bored of porting to the iPhone, I can't write drivers :/ |
| 10:07.05 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: i hope you're aware of FR's hardware limitations, aren't you? |
| 10:07.43 | JameswStubbs | PaulF: Limitations? I'm aware of some faulty antennas and gps |
| 10:07.58 | JameswStubbs | Specs wise it seems appropriate for what I want to do |
| 10:08.00 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: gprs only, not even EDGE. |
| 10:08.06 | JameswStubbs | PaulF: That |
| 10:08.07 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: wifi sucks |
| 10:08.10 | JameswStubbs | 's not a problem :) |
| 10:08.36 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: for GSM conversations you'd need a buzzfix. |
| 10:08.44 | JameswStubbs | PaulF: It has powermanagement, which is more than I have with the iPhone |
| 10:09.29 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: standby power consumption is suboptimal without 1024 fix (so you get only 70 hours of standby instead of 140). |
| 10:09.35 | JameswStubbs | I can't even send suspends to kernel with the iPhone :/ Everythings running full power all the time |
| 10:09.47 | JameswStubbs | I get 3 hour stand by |
| 10:09.54 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: yeah, reverse-engineered targets are alwys tough :| |
| 10:10.22 | JameswStubbs | PaulF: It's far above my expertise |
| 10:10.56 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: what is your particular usecase? Probably palm pre or htc dream would fit it better. |
| 10:11.15 | JameswStubbs | PaulF: I'm creating an Ubuntu based distro for the iPhone |
| 10:11.23 | JameswStubbs | PaulF: Linux userland development I guess |
| 10:11.38 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: why do you need a smartphone then? :) |
| 10:11.48 | JameswStubbs | PaulF: I'm fiddling with matchbox now to make it a bit more mobile friendly |
| 10:12.15 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: aren't you fascinated with e17's illume2? |
| 10:12.33 | PaulF | The targets are getting more and more powerful. |
| 10:12.45 | JameswStubbs | PaulF: I am yes :) Looks very nice with eye candy sans compisting, but I havn't gotten it to compile for armv6 |
| 10:13.23 | JameswStubbs | I can't find a dependency list for compiling either :/ |
| 10:13.40 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: builds fine with OE. |
| 10:13.47 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: just take a look at its recipe. |
| 10:13.48 | JameswStubbs | I'd like to know how to build a qt that would be nice |
| 10:13.53 | JameswStubbs | PaulF: That |
| 10:14.00 | JameswStubbs | 's what I've been following :) |
| 10:14.11 | JameswStubbs | It kind of made me want an openmoko |
| 10:14.27 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/e17 |
| 10:14.38 | JameswStubbs | Oo new link :) |
| 10:15.46 | JameswStubbs | PaulF: What OS are you using on your device? |
| 10:15.55 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: Debian |
| 10:16.11 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: but most folks here are using the SHR distro, it's OE-based. |
| 10:16.36 | JameswStubbs | I was considering dualbooting Android and Debian, Android to use as a phone and Debian to tinker with |
| 10:16.59 | JameswStubbs | With Ubuntu been based on Debian, I could use what I learn for the iPhone |
| 10:17.12 | JameswStubbs | Xfce with onboard is not mobile friendly :/ |
| 10:17.17 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: i haven't heard from the folks using android since long. |
| 10:17.49 | JameswStubbs | PaulF: I've asked around, they say it's just about usable as a daily OS |
| 10:17.55 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: i'm using emacs with my own telephony UI inside. Talking about friendliness. |
| 10:18.10 | JameswStubbs | PaulF: Command line telephone calls :S? |
| 10:18.28 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: no. My emacs is fingerfriendly enough. |
| 10:18.41 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: and that's my only cellphone btw |
| 10:18.42 | JameswStubbs | Have you got a screenshot? |
| 10:19.00 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: hm, let me see |
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| 10:19.55 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: only https://paulfertser.is-a-geek.org/files/status-with-hooker.png |
| 10:20.16 | PaulF | (no blackjack integrated yet :( ) |
| 10:22.55 | JameswStubbs | What keyboard are you using there? |
| 10:23.08 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: illume's |
| 10:23.39 | JameswStubbs | Ok, looks slightly different to others I've seen in screenshots |
| 10:24.05 | JameswStubbs | PaulF: Geek cred on that Ui for calls and messages :) |
| 10:24.55 | JameswStubbs | PaulF: Is this community still quite active then? |
| 10:25.10 | JameswStubbs | Or has it boiled down to die-hards? |
| 10:25.17 | PaulF | JameswStubbs: i'm not sure |
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