| 00:00.55 | JaMa | for nand boot or nand boot with ubi?, every version of Qi allows first |
| 00:01.09 | JaMa | and only qi-ubi from SHR allows second |
| 00:02.26 | JaMa | but if you have more then one Qi-usable uSD partition it's quite hard to time AUX preses to skip 2 uSD partitions and I think almost impossible to time skipping even more partitions |
| 00:02.52 | slaxxer | so use the Qi bootmenu |
| 00:03.19 | JaMa | or touch noboot option to all uSD partions except one |
| 00:03.39 | JaMa | if you usually switch only between one uSD and NAND |
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| 00:06.50 | slaxxer | ./install.sh: not found |
| 00:06.58 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:09.42 | JaMa | is interpreter from first line also there? |
| 00:09.54 | JaMa | or "sh ./install.sh" does work? |
| 00:11.30 | slaxxer | root@om-gta02 ~ # TASKS="ALL" QI=true SINGLE_PART=true ./install.sh all |
| 00:11.30 | slaxxer | -sh: ./install.sh: not found |
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| 00:11.58 | slaxxer | what i do wrong? |
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| 01:44.02 | naquan | hi, can anyone tell me how to fix "account disabled" error in pidgin/yahoo. I upgraded pidgin and the error's gone for a while but now it came back :( |
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| 01:49.19 | slaxxer | did u try to log on from a pc |
| 01:49.47 | naquan | from pc pidgin logon ok |
| 01:50.25 | naquan | it happen when i use gprs :( |
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| 02:12.14 | naquan | @slaxxer: login using Illiwi on the phone seem ok too :( ,is this error related to network speed? |
| 02:13.24 | slaxxer | opkg remove pidgin |
| 02:13.26 | slaxxer | opkg install pidgin |
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| 02:39.52 | naquan | @slaxxer: it worked, thank you :) |
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| 03:18.43 | Broam | dumb question time. If dmesg is giving me jffs2 errors on the NAND, is that just data corruption due to hardlocks/battery removal, or should I worried? And also , how do I fix these errors, or is a reflash really the best solution? |
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| 03:42.30 | Broam | I'll reflash, see if it persists. |
| 03:42.49 | Broam | it's the same error every boot, so I'm suspecting it's an actual bad block |
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| 03:57.40 | SpeedEvil | NAND is supposed to have bad blocks. |
| 03:58.04 | SpeedEvil | I'm unsure whr rhe normal vs non-normal messages in jffs2 will look like |
| 03:59.56 | Broam | apparently SpeedEvil there's no difference |
| 04:00.10 | Broam | between "this is a bad block" and "this is because you shut down the phone wrong" |
| 04:00.47 | Broam | I need my sleep, but I'll check dmesg tomorrow and see if the bad block map fixed it somewhat. annoying that qtmoko24 does not have a fsck facility for jffs |
| 04:01.06 | Broam | but then again, I *am* booting off of it... |
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| 11:21.44 | kereoz | hi |
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| 11:44.51 | Martix__ | gena2x: hi |
| 11:45.09 | Martix__ | still having problem with u-boot |
| 11:45.39 | Martix__ | I have debug board, but OpenOCD configuration from wiki isnt working, any ideas? |
| 11:46.16 | gena2x | Martix__: wait a bit. |
| 11:46.22 | gena2x | Martix__: hi btw. |
| 11:46.44 | gena2x | Martix__: i'm a bit busy now, then i can try to help. |
| 11:47.00 | Martix__ | ok, I'll wait :-) |
| 12:06.20 | gena2x | Martix__: ok, now i have some time. |
| 12:06.25 | Martix__ | gena2x: problem with u-boot_env solved |
| 12:06.37 | gena2x | Martix__: so, it works? |
| 12:06.43 | Martix__ | right |
| 12:06.45 | gena2x | Martix__: that were problem? |
| 12:06.48 | Martix__ | nand erase |
| 12:07.11 | gena2x | Martix__: hm. nand erase in userspace tools? |
| 12:07.18 | Martix__ | flashed new u-boot by nand write command runned from NOR u-boot |
| 12:07.26 | Martix__ | no, in NOR u-boot |
| 12:07.43 | gena2x | oh... i suggested this before... |
| 12:07.59 | gena2x | but dfu-util is still not working? |
| 12:08.07 | Martix__ | and what is important: runned u-boot from NAND and executed: |
| 12:08.10 | Martix__ | dynpart |
| 12:08.15 | Martix__ | dynenv set u-boot_env |
| 12:08.30 | Martix__ | after that, saveenv/loadenv works :-) |
| 12:08.55 | gena2x | and so, now whole thing is working now and no need to help? |
| 12:09.33 | Martix__ | yep u-boot env works :-) |
| 12:09.39 | Martix__ | thanks for helping |
| 12:09.46 | Martix__ | but dfu-util -l is still broken |
| 12:10.06 | gena2x | try inverstigate this on host. |
| 12:10.12 | gena2x | did it work before? |
| 12:10.19 | Martix__ | yes |
| 12:10.28 | Martix__ | I'll try another host distro |
| 12:10.35 | gena2x | if yes, check everything from kernel to glibc, compiler and dfu-util. |
| 12:11.45 | Martix__ | I am not alone, somebody else reported problem with dfu-util |
| 12:11.59 | gena2x | may be some well-hidded bug in timings, or cable. |
| 12:12.12 | gena2x | but nor u-boot didn't change. |
| 12:12.36 | gena2x | so may be we'll find problem cause and push fix to dfu-util. |
| 12:12.59 | gena2x | i think i can try fix it if i'll be able to reproduce it here. |
| 12:13.26 | gena2x | try you dfu-util from live-cd. |
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| 12:14.54 | gena2x | but once recently, i had problems with pulseaudio. i were really annoyed by it. it ended up that i had to resolder new capacitors in my switch to fix it! |
| 12:15.05 | gena2x | and pulseaudio were unrelated. |
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| 12:18.08 | gena2x | Martix__: or, if you dev, you can fix it yourself :) |
| 12:18.15 | gena2x | of course :) |
| 12:18.18 | Martix__ | :-) |
| 12:31.50 | Martix__ | gena2x: my lsusb -v http://pastebin.com/9Vgka0fx |
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| 13:00.58 | albacore | PaulFertser: Can I disturb you? |
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| 13:20.49 | PaulFertser | albacore: :) pong |
| 13:21.09 | albacore | PaulFertser: yes |
| 13:21.37 | albacore | PaulFertser: It's about rfcomm connection |
| 13:21.59 | albacore | I use your freerunner as a gps receiver for your PC. In first step I try to read NMEA directly on my FR. I follow Manually_using_Bluetooth#RFCOMM. But I never watch NMEA strings. What I did not? |
| 13:22.41 | PaulFertser | albacore: disable ogpsd and power n gps directly using ysfs |
| 13:22.49 | PaulFertser | sysfs |
| 13:23.12 | PaulFertser | albacore: ttyl in the evening, sorry, gtg |
| 13:24.38 | albacore | PaulFertser: ok, thanks |
| 13:25.39 | PaulFertser | albacore: ok, i'm here for 3 more min. |
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| 13:28.15 | albacore | I don't know what It means "power n gps directy using sysfs", but I search that |
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| 13:29.21 | SpeedEvil | power on |
| 13:29.34 | SpeedEvil | The GPS power can be switched on and off though a node in sysfs |
| 13:29.40 | SpeedEvil | gpsd normally does this |
| 13:29.42 | SpeedEvil | ^o |
| 13:29.54 | SpeedEvil | If you're interacting with the GPS manually, then you need to |
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| 13:41.44 | albacore | SpeedEvil: I run gps-poweron.sh from qtmoko : (/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gps.0/power_on). |
| 13:45.12 | SpeedEvil | no clue |
| 13:45.26 | SpeedEvil | I don't have a FR - so I haven't invesitgates how the GPS goes on |
| 14:07.45 | JaMa|Off | albacore: you can as well use fsoraw to keep gps ON as long as your app is running |
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| 14:10.53 | albacore | JaMa|Off : apt-get says me "fsoraw: Depends: fso-usaged but it is not installable or fso-frameworkd but it is not going to be installed" |
| 14:13.29 | JaMa|Off | albacore: then try omhacks it should be built for debian |
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| 14:33.51 | albacore | JaMa|Off : I install omhacks, my problem persist. GPS gives NMEA datas on /dev/ttySAC1, but not on /dev/rfcomm0 |
| 14:36.23 | SpeedEvil | you need to setup something to copy the GPS data onto bluetooth |
| 14:36.27 | SpeedEvil | cat may even work |
| 14:40.38 | albacore | JaMa|Off: but cat /dev/rfcomm0 return null |
| 14:42.56 | SpeedEvil | what are you trying to do? |
| 14:45.24 | albacore | SpeedEvil: just catch NMEA to rfcomm0 (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#RFCOMM) |
| 14:48.09 | SpeedEvil | That is for using external GPS devices, from softare on the phone. Is that what you want to do? |
| 14:53.51 | albacore | SpeedEvil : I want use freerunner as a gps receiver for my PC, but In first step I want receive NMEA datas on my FR |
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| 14:54.56 | albacore | SpeedEvil : but my constraint : to use rfcomm connection |
| 14:55.51 | SpeedEvil | rfcomm is the end of a virtual serial pipe, connected to the other end of the bluetooth connection |
| 14:56.07 | SpeedEvil | it cannot normally be used as a GPS unless it's paired, and you have a GPS at the other end |
| 14:57.04 | SpeedEvil | if you want the FR to be a GPS, then you need to pair the rfcomm device with the bluetooth host, and then feed data from /dev/ttyS* to the rfcomm device |
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| 15:08.04 | albacore | SpeedEvil:my laptop is pared with GPS (QTmoko bluetooth application show that). How can I feed data from /dev/ttyS* to the rfcomm device? But I would like realize a basic test in first time directly on FR : Manually_using_Bluetooth#RFCOMM |
| 15:08.32 | SpeedEvil | cat /dev/ttyS* >/dev/rfcomm |
| 15:08.45 | SpeedEvil | IIRC - it'sbeen a while |
| 15:11.04 | JaMa|Off | albacore: why do you insist on BT? isn't better to connect laptop-fr with wifi and use gpsd on fr? |
| 15:14.35 | JaMa|Off | once tried BTgps on FR to provide gps to his nokia phone and even while sending nmea data over BT, nokia ovi maps still complained that remote device is not gps.. |
| 15:15.06 | JaMa|Off | but providing gpsd for my Sharp Spitz over wifi works good |
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| 15:18.18 | albacore | JaMa|Off : I have a java application on my laptop. Then to receive GPS datas I have a java library that use virtual serial port or TCP/IP over BT. |
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| 16:11.03 | undrwater | anyone have a working imap email client? |
| 16:11.55 | Weiss | undrwater: for FR? |
| 16:12.04 | undrwater | Weiss: yes :) |
| 16:12.23 | Weiss | I access my mail using SSH+Mutt, which works reasonably well |
| 16:12.37 | Weiss | I heard that Sylpheed works, for a better solution |
| 16:12.44 | undrwater | Weiss: i don't have a server to ssh into yet... |
| 16:12.52 | undrwater | ahh...i'll look into that |
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| 16:13.30 | gena2x | undrwater: balsa may be also fast |
| 16:13.48 | undrwater | gena2x: is balsa cli? |
| 16:13.51 | Weiss | people were specifically using Claws (a sylpheed derivative), but if Claws works then plain Sylpheed should also work (I use plain Sylpheed on my desktop+laptop) |
| 16:13.56 | gena2x | undrwater: nope |
| 16:15.24 | undrwater | gena2x: cool...and thanks for the work with overclocking! |
| 16:15.52 | gena2x | undrwater: oh, this is not work, really :) |
| 16:16.31 | undrwater | thanks for the fun? |
| 16:17.07 | gena2x | :) |
| 16:17.42 | gena2x | this is just interesting for me, and i feel that sharing results is nice. |
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| 17:16.22 | PaulFertser | albacore: yes, you definitely need to do something like SpeedEvil's cat command. You should also consider educating yourself about socat too. |
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| 19:14.30 | ftn | Hey there. |
| 19:15.45 | ftn | I'm planning to install several distributions on the sd card. Do you know if there's an easy way to choose which one to boot?, please |
| 19:18.34 | gena2x | ftn: if you using uboot, you can choose which one to load from menu. |
| 19:18.57 | gena2x | ftn: but you'll need to to setup your u-boot accordingly. |
| 19:20.56 | ftn | gena2x I just switched to qi a couple of weeks ago, I've read you can do it modifying a text file with some parameters, but I don't find it comfortable at all |
| 19:25.55 | undrwater | isn't there a qi with menu out there somewhere? |
| 19:26.20 | undrwater | i prefer uboot...once you learn how to set it up, it's easier |
| 19:27.27 | undrwater | ftn: what are you using to partition your card? |
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| 19:29.52 | ftn | undrwater gparted and/ or fdisk |
| 19:30.27 | gena2x | used gfdisk :) |
| 19:30.57 | undrwater | ftn: what distro? i ask because i couldn't partition with fdisk defaults on gentoo |
| 19:31.02 | gena2x | s/gfdisk/gdisk/ |
| 19:32.39 | ftn | undrwater ubuntu lucid |
| 19:32.44 | gena2x | ftn: never tried qi. see no benefit as user. |
| 19:33.02 | undrwater | ftn: you should be fine |
| 19:33.24 | undrwater | gena2x: i tried qi...only benefit i could see is if you are using one distro |
| 19:33.30 | undrwater | and only on sd |
| 19:34.19 | ftn | allright, I'll flash uboot then |
| 19:35.02 | gena2x | undrwater: you can recompile qi for different device, just like i recompile u-boot env. |
| 19:35.12 | gena2x | undrwater: but more crappy :) |
| 19:36.08 | undrwater | i like the ability to set the env...and get the menu |
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| 23:08.39 | ftn | Howdy, I'm trying to connect to my hidden wpa network with iliwi but it doesn't seem possible to enter my SSID. any hint?, pelase |
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