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| 10:18.48 | badcloud | how's latest shr-u's call quality? |
| 10:22.58 | PaulFertser | badcloud: nothing was changed for more than a year wrt call quality afaik |
| 10:23.54 | badcloud | PaulFertser: thanks. just thought I'd go back to it since I was experiencing problems in qtmoko |
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| 10:48.57 | badcloud | how do I load gta01_battery.ko? I unbinded bq27000, couldn't find the package that provides the .ko file but had it on my desktop, so I scp'd it to /lib/modules/2.6.29-rc3/kernel/drivers/power/ |
| 10:49.12 | badcloud | still getting a 'not found' error from modprobe |
| 10:49.40 | JaMa | depmod -a 2.6.29-rc3 |
| 10:50.30 | badcloud | JaMa: thanks :) |
| 10:50.39 | SpeedEvil | insmod? |
| 10:50.40 | SpeedEvil | oh |
| 10:50.42 | SpeedEvil | that too |
| 10:50.55 | badcloud | haha, thanks SpeedEvil |
| 10:51.06 | SpeedEvil | np |
| 10:51.12 | badcloud | JaMa: do I need to issue that every boot? |
| 10:51.16 | badcloud | *on every boot |
| 10:52.22 | JaMa | badcloud: once is enough |
| 10:52.25 | badcloud | ok |
| 10:52.37 | JaMa | badcloud: to have modprobe working I mean |
| 10:52.47 | badcloud | that's what I figured |
| 10:52.49 | JaMa | badcloud: to load that module you have to load it.. |
| 10:53.34 | JaMa | badcloud: echo gta01_battery > /etc/modutils/gta01_battery should load it after reboot |
| 10:54.16 | badcloud | JaMa: what about echo bq27000-battery.0 > /sys/bus/platform/drivers/bq27000-battery/unbind |
| 10:54.18 | badcloud | ? |
| 10:55.38 | badcloud | (how often do I need to issue that command?) |
| 10:56.02 | JaMa | not sure, but I guess on every boot before loading gta01_battery? |
| 10:57.17 | badcloud | JaMa: which runlevel do the modules load on? |
| 11:04.45 | JaMa | badcloud: maybe loaded before running init? not sure |
| 11:04.58 | badcloud | JaMa: found it, thanks |
| 11:05.04 | JaMa | and? |
| 11:05.53 | JaMa | ./rcS.d/S20modutils.sh ? :) |
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| 11:31.23 | badcloud | yup |
| 11:31.27 | badcloud | but that didn't work |
| 11:31.49 | badcloud | I think I'll pop the echo... and modprobe commands at the end of /etc/profile |
| 11:31.58 | badcloud | I vaguely remember that working for me last time |
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| 12:58.52 | badcloud | is there something wrong with the sim-manager in latest shr-u? it won't show any contacts from my sim |
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| 14:11.51 | merethan | Hi all! |
| 14:12.53 | gena2x | hi |
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| 14:13.41 | merethan | My phone is useless now. I were trying out some skins and one of them junked my GUI. The SHR (illumni) settings are now unreachable (out of screen bounds) so I have no way of setting any other skin. |
| 14:13.53 | merethan | In whick config file can I change my skin manually? |
| 14:14.16 | gena2x | dunno about shr :( |
| 14:14.21 | merethan | I have ssh connection and all so I have console acces. |
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| 14:15.56 | Heinervdm | merethan: don't know the config file, but you can delete ~/.e and start from the beginning |
| 14:16.24 | merethan | nano ~/.e ? |
| 14:16.46 | Heinervdm | rm -rf ~/.e |
| 14:16.58 | merethan | I rlly need to fix it. There's no way I can close or switch between apps |
| 14:17.18 | merethan | Heinervdm, why is editting using nano not an option? |
| 14:17.28 | Heinervdm | because it's an directory |
| 14:17.30 | merethan | Removing all settings is a bit rigorous |
| 14:19.09 | Heinervdm | merethan: does you theme look like this? http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/e4ad04025b16cdb8de3c1dcf3dc6946e.png |
| 14:19.54 | merethan | No |
| 14:20.12 | merethan | I have 3 app icons horizontal |
| 14:20.59 | merethan | And the window buttons (left, close,right) are out of my screen bounds, si i can't click them |
| 14:23.53 | merethan | Files in .e are not human readable |
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| 14:25.18 | merethan | damnit, I 'll just remove it |
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| 14:26.32 | Heinervdm | badcloud: i just updated my shr-u and sim-manager works |
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| 14:33.41 | merethan | Why are there like 3 GUI toolkits used in SHM? |
| 14:33.48 | merethan | *SHR |
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| 14:34.08 | merethan | When you change the appearance of one everything else gets boned |
| 14:35.27 | merethan | This this is dead slow now |
| 14:35.50 | merethan | I think I 'll flash a different distro |
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| 14:52.50 | gena2x | merethan: try qtmoko, it has fast kernel. |
| 14:53.08 | merethan | Working on it |
| 14:58.05 | merethan | SHR is dead slow |
| 14:58.27 | merethan | And because so many toolkits are used, it's kinda hard to get it to work |
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| 14:58.35 | merethan | Very easy to break it |
| 15:02.02 | gena2x | merethan: shr it is still in development |
| 15:04.50 | merethan | doh :P |
| 15:05.20 | merethan | From my first look and experiences it has grown too complicated. |
| 15:09.22 | Weiss | would definitely banish any GTK from the FR |
| 15:09.51 | Weiss | it doesn't get on nicely with (a) non-FPU SoC, (b) EXA |
| 15:10.37 | ThibG | Gtk doesn't like EXA? |
| 15:10.51 | Weiss | or, EXA doesn't like GTK |
| 15:11.05 | merethan | Why did SHR became the greatest? |
| 15:11.08 | Weiss | EXA expects a small number of large operations to accelerate. GTK gives it thousands of tiny ones |
| 15:11.14 | merethan | In terms of popularity of couse |
| 15:12.15 | ThibG | ok |
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| 15:16.40 | merethan | Why did SHR became the most popular? |
| 15:18.17 | Weiss | merethan: I guess because it was the largest after the "official" OM distros |
| 15:18.25 | Weiss | and had a community |
| 15:22.24 | badcloud | Heinervdm: thanks |
| 15:22.38 | badcloud | seems like something erased all of my sim contacts :( |
| 15:23.00 | badcloud | good think I sync regularily via google |
| 15:23.56 | badcloud | merethan: did you flash qtmoko yet? |
| 15:24.01 | merethan | Weiss, it still struck me to see it's slowness. My Siemens A57 is much faster. |
| 15:24.02 | badcloud | *thing |
| 15:24.06 | merethan | badcloud, not yet |
| 15:24.20 | merethan | I 'll update my GSM firmware first |
| 15:24.31 | badcloud | I've expereienced call quality issues w/v22 |
| 15:24.43 | badcloud | was just curious about other's expereiences |
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| 15:29.41 | merethan | badcloud, you're sure the GSM chip has the latest firmware? |
| 15:29.58 | badcloud | on my FR, yup |
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| 15:39.26 | Weiss | merethan: that the FR is slow is not news :) |
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| 15:40.05 | merethan | 400Mhz |
| 15:40.35 | merethan | I think my Siemens is more close to Khz range than it is to the FR |
| 15:40.46 | merethan | yet it is much more responsive |
| 15:40.52 | gena2x | merethan: don't listed em. freerunner is fast :) |
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| 15:41.16 | gena2x | merethan: have you installed qtmoko? |
| 15:42.50 | merethan | Currently flashing GSM chip |
| 15:43.25 | gena2x | merethan: try, return and tell me if it is slow. |
| 15:43.34 | gena2x | merethan: :) |
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| 15:53.55 | merethan | Is there a page anywhere describing all the button combinations? |
| 15:54.07 | merethan | I know the NOR-boot, but are there any other? |
| 15:55.20 | gena2x | merethan: hold power + after 1 second aux = menu of NAND uboot |
| 15:55.32 | gena2x | (if you have uboot in nand) |
| 15:55.46 | merethan | ah |
| 15:55.48 | gena2x | i don't know qi keys. |
| 15:56.07 | gena2x | no more boot keys imo. |
| 15:59.01 | badcloud | where is the icon theme pref saved? illume settings is segging on me |
| 15:59.09 | badcloud | shr-u? |
| 15:59.14 | badcloud | *(shr-u) |
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| 16:09.57 | badcloud | or at least, what is the exec for illume settings? |
| 16:11.25 | merethan | I haven't found it either |
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| 16:11.44 | badcloud | :~ |
| 16:12.02 | merethan | I could access my terminal but couln't figure out how illume settings was started. |
| 16:13.23 | Defiant | merethan: try with enlightment_remote |
| 16:13.42 | Defiant | it can do some useful e17 stuff |
| 16:13.53 | merethan | I'm now flashing QtMoko |
| 16:14.26 | merethan | badcloud could probably use it |
| 16:15.30 | badcloud | Defiant: is it an opkg package? |
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| 16:21.56 | merethan | aight, let's try QtMoko |
| 16:22.00 | merethan | flashed and all |
| 16:22.04 | merethan | see if it works |
| 16:22.24 | badcloud | merethan: want me to call you ;) |
| 16:22.26 | badcloud | ? |
| 16:24.10 | merethan | International calls are expensive |
| 16:24.30 | merethan | So unless you figured out I'm Dutch by language usage or hostname |
| 16:24.31 | gena2x | yeah, but i'll call if you'll tell me qtmoko is slow :) |
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| 16:27.03 | badcloud | merethan: gena2x's right, qtmoko is fast. only reason I went back to shr is because I of the call thing I experienced |
| 16:27.36 | gena2x | sound quality? |
| 16:27.50 | gena2x | i guess this can be easily fixed? |
| 16:28.47 | gena2x | fix sound qulity and help qtmoko :) |
| 16:29.35 | gena2x | atm, only thing really annoys me on qtmoko is white screen on resume. |
| 16:29.51 | gena2x | but i think this is same to all other distro. |
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| 16:34.04 | badcloud | gena2x: I would if I could but I don't possess the skills |
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| 16:37.26 | Defiant | badcloud: don't now, debian here |
| 16:38.04 | gena2x | badcloud: it should be doable without any exraordinary skills. |
| 16:38.16 | badcloud | Defiant: found it |
| 16:38.20 | badcloud | gena2x: seriously? |
| 16:38.37 | badcloud | I've been screwing with alsa state files and those sliders for way too long |
| 16:38.39 | gena2x | badcloud: quite sure. |
| 16:39.07 | gena2x | badcloud: just see this : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:WM8753_routing_diagram_alsa_controls.png |
| 16:39.41 | gena2x | badcloud: it lets you to understand whole alsa controls. |
| 16:39.54 | gena2x | badcloud: but you don't need to know all this. |
| 16:40.09 | gena2x | badcloud: just copy state from shr to qtmoko... |
| 16:40.12 | merethan | QtMoko is a lot more responsive |
| 16:40.24 | merethan | But very "smartphone" |
| 16:40.36 | gena2x | merethan: in fact is not 'slow', yeah? |
| 16:41.02 | gena2x | merethan: try qx, you'll get usual X11. and debian is under your qtmoko. |
| 16:41.28 | gena2x | merethan: so you may install 40000 packages in one apt-get. |
| 16:42.07 | gena2x | in fact that is i wanted from my pocket computer, and reason i bought fr at all :) |
| 16:42.17 | badcloud | I've found that bat life is better in shr |
| 16:43.19 | merethan | lulz |
| 16:43.23 | merethan | QtMoko crashed |
| 16:43.39 | gena2x | :( |
| 16:43.52 | gena2x | never saw it crashed here? |
| 16:44.11 | gena2x | i mean it never crashed here |
| 16:44.18 | gena2x | how it look like? |
| 16:44.32 | merethan | Blank screen |
| 16:44.41 | merethan | But it restarts by itself |
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| 16:44.47 | gena2x | strange. |
| 16:44.56 | merethan | brb, dinner |
| 16:50.52 | badcloud | gena2x: think I'll do that (shr states->qtmoko) |
| 16:50.56 | badcloud | might take some time |
| 16:51.24 | gena2x | badcloud: i think radek be happy to accept patch. |
| 16:52.05 | badcloud | gena2x: I don't know how to make patches, but I could at least compare the files |
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| 16:54.29 | gena2x | badcloud: i think sending tested state file may be enought, along with descrption real cause of bad sound quality and fix. |
| 16:54.59 | badcloud | gena2x: noted. |
| 16:55.23 | gena2x | badcloud: i can test if needed. |
| 16:55.43 | badcloud | nice, that would help. thanks |
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| 18:07.38 | merethan | Fueled. |
| 18:07.54 | merethan | How well does SHR run from uSD? |
| 18:13.02 | PaulFertser | merethan: what do you mean? |
| 18:17.51 | merethan | Can it be installed on micro SD card? |
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| 18:25.02 | badcloud | PaulFertser: where would be the best place to put the two lines from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Battery_Questions_and_Answers#So.2C_how_do_i_use_.22dumb.22_batteries_with_my_freerunner.3F under debian (within the bootprocess)? |
| 18:25.13 | badcloud | merethan: yes, it can |
| 18:25.38 | badcloud | download and ungzip/tar the tar.gz file onto a partition |
| 18:27.58 | merethan | :) |
| 18:28.04 | merethan | I guessed that |
| 18:28.31 | badcloud | merethan: sorry for downplaying my assumption :) |
| 18:29.04 | merethan | It's more wether all apps still work if I do |
| 18:29.16 | badcloud | haven't played around much with apps |
| 18:29.22 | merethan | Should be fine tough |
| 18:29.29 | badcloud | so I'm no good for testimonies |
| 18:29.29 | merethan | Everything still starts at / |
| 18:29.32 | badcloud | sure |
| 18:29.52 | PaulFertser | badcloud: /etc/rc.local probably? |
| 18:30.04 | badcloud | PaulFertser: but then won't it load more than once? |
| 18:30.27 | PaulFertser | badcloud: why should it? |
| 18:30.34 | PaulFertser | badcloud: do you mean loading the dumb battery driver? |
| 18:30.36 | badcloud | cat rc.local"# This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel." |
| 18:30.43 | badcloud | PaulFertser: yes |
| 18:31.16 | PaulFertser | badcloud: so you'll have it executed on boot, that's enough i hope. |
| 18:31.35 | badcloud | PaulFertser: thanks for the reassurance ;) |
| 18:33.28 | merethan | Anyone experiences with NeronGPS? |
| 18:33.48 | merethan | I have a OSM file for west europe and want Neron to use it |
| 18:33.56 | merethan | But the manual sais nothing about it |
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| 18:49.49 | merethan | whoops |
| 18:50.07 | merethan | That preprocessed map pack was for navit |
| 18:50.16 | merethan | Didn't realized that |
| 18:50.30 | merethan | Not OSM standard :) |
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| 18:55.05 | badcloud | gena2x: there? I finished editing qtm's gsmhandset.state |
| 18:55.15 | badcloud | want me to pastebin it? |
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| 19:02.28 | merethan | Found an another way to do it! |
| 19:26.13 | merethan | g2g |
| 19:26.17 | merethan | cya later! |
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