| 00:19.59 | Tembos | is ok to use "U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12 (Dec 17 2008 - 00:48:40)" for the latest SHR |
| 00:24.46 | Tembos | for a GTA01V4 |
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| 02:42.14 | doc|home | every few months I ask this question and so far I've been disappointed. Is there a distro for the gta which is usable yet? |
| 02:42.20 | doc|home | *gta02 |
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| 03:04.58 | slaxxer | qtmoko |
| 03:05.22 | slaxxer | android |
| 03:05.53 | slaxxer | shr if u are a hacker |
| 03:06.42 | slaxxer | slackware has even improved |
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| 04:09.16 | doc|home | slaxxer: thanks |
| 04:09.38 | doc|home | the first two have properly working sms and phone calls? |
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| 05:02.00 | undrwater | does shr no longer use .state files? |
| 05:04.26 | PaulFertser | undrwater: yes |
| 05:04.54 | PaulFertser | undrwater: they know use another format in /etc/freesmartphone/... that is directly parseable by some FSO2 part that loads them. |
| 05:16.02 | undrwater | PaulFertser: max audio at the slider is still a bit low for me outside...is it recommended to mess with those settings? -> /etc/freesmartphone/whatever? |
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| 05:20.49 | PaulFertser | undrwater: if you think you fully understand the diagram (with control names) at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Audio_Subsystem , then yes, feel free to modify the values as you see fit. But beware, quite possibly your device has extra useless caps in the earpiece path, so they might be the main factor limiting the volume. |
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| 05:21.32 | undrwater | gotta love useless caps ;) |
| 05:21.32 | PaulFertser | undrwater: an interesting option would be to use external headphones (but the same gta02-integrated mic) for gsm calls. |
| 05:22.02 | undrwater | actually, the shipped headphones are working quite well for me :) |
| 05:22.09 | undrwater | that was a surprise recently |
| 05:22.22 | PaulFertser | I shorted several of them, it required some tiny soldering after opening the main can (i needed to do that anyway for the bass fix). |
| 05:22.32 | PaulFertser | (shorted useless caps i mean) |
| 05:23.32 | undrwater | do you have any intention to re-write the bluetooth headset page? |
| 05:24.22 | PaulFertser | undrwater: which one? I care about "Manually using Bluetooth" page the most. |
| 05:24.59 | undrwater | that one |
| 05:25.03 | PaulFertser | undrwater: it'd be nice to have somebody test bluetooth headsets (for gsm) with the current SHR-u, so that the page can be updated with the actual info. |
| 05:25.14 | undrwater | i'd love to! |
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| 05:25.33 | PaulFertser | undrwater: do you have any particular suggestions for that page? |
| 05:25.35 | undrwater | i have 3 i can test |
| 05:25.55 | undrwater | last time i looked at it it wasn't up to date? |
| 05:26.00 | undrwater | let me check again |
| 05:27.14 | undrwater | "you will need a fixed statefile for bluetooth"...but shr not using statefiles? |
| 05:28.37 | PaulFertser | undrwater: yes, i think this can be removed/amended. But it would be nice to have someone test with shr-u first. |
| 05:29.52 | undrwater | as-is? how to replace the mdbus command? |
| 05:30.30 | PaulFertser | undrwater: you can use good old mdbus or the new cool mdbus2 the same way. |
| 05:30.52 | PaulFertser | undrwater: dbus-send would also work |
| 05:31.51 | undrwater | hmmm....i remember trying and getting an error...but i'll do that and post to ML |
| 05:32.40 | PaulFertser | undrwater: an error where? |
| 05:33.32 | undrwater | after one of the mdbus commands...even with mdbus2 or dbus-send...i don't remember as it was about a month ago |
| 05:34.22 | PaulFertser | undrwater: hm, strange |
| 05:35.20 | undrwater | maybe...can't be very helpful if you don't know what happened ;) |
| 05:46.18 | PaulFertser | undrwater: so are you going to try it right atm? |
| 05:47.05 | undrwater | i can't...playing with .32 kernel...screwed things up ;) |
| 05:47.26 | undrwater | if i fix quickly, i'll try |
| 05:47.37 | undrwater | otherwise i'll try later and post results in ML |
| 05:48.36 | PaulFertser | undrwater: ok, nice plan :) |
| 05:52.36 | undrwater | is anyone who has the ability actually working on any kind of "normal" bt headset functionality? |
| 05:55.43 | PaulFertser | undrwater: not atm. But i think it works in qtmoko |
| 06:02.20 | undrwater | interesting...not sure about that |
| 06:03.14 | undrwater | if i use a .32 kernel, will that be a problem with anything in those instructions? |
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| 06:05.42 | undrwater | PaulFertser: there is no "/usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/" directory |
| 06:05.59 | undrwater | so where would gsmbluetooth.state go? |
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| 06:06.44 | PaulFertser | undrwater: nowhere, as i've already told you shr-u has all the necessary files and stores them in another place. |
| 06:07.35 | undrwater | ahh...okie... |
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| 06:20.19 | undrwater | mdbus2 -s org.bluez $BTADAPTER/dev_00_0A_9B_78_14_02 org.bl |
| 06:20.19 | undrwater | uez.Headset.Connect |
| 06:20.19 | undrwater | [ERR]: Unknown object path /dev_00_0A_9B_78_14_02 for org.bluez |
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| 06:21.45 | undrwater | PaulFertser: ^ |
| 06:22.45 | PaulFertser | undrwater: check available pathes with mdbus2's introspection facilities "mdbus2 -s org.bluez" |
| 06:24.11 | PaulFertser | undrwater: have you really paired the headset beforehand? |
| 06:24.22 | undrwater | yes |
| 06:24.33 | undrwater | simple-agent requested the pin |
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| 06:24.59 | undrwater | added address to /etc/freesmartphone/opreferences/conf/phone/default.yaml |
| 06:25.15 | PaulFertser | Oh |
| 06:25.18 | undrwater | don't know if that makes it "really", though |
| 06:25.22 | PaulFertser | [ERR]: Unknown object path /dev_00_0A_9B_78_14_02 for org.bluez !!! |
| 06:25.29 | PaulFertser | undrwater: you forgot to set $BTADAPTER |
| 06:25.42 | undrwater | where would that be done? |
| 06:25.56 | undrwater | i tried hci0/dev_... |
| 06:27.12 | undrwater | [ERR]: The name org.bluez was not provided by any .service files |
| 06:27.19 | undrwater | oops... |
| 06:27.30 | undrwater | was off |
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| 06:28.09 | undrwater | /org/bluez/811/hci0/dev_00_0A_9B_78_14_02 |
| 06:28.38 | PaulFertser | undrwater: the page has that earlier in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#How_to_use_bluez4_dbus_API |
| 06:31.21 | undrwater | ok...did that...still same message |
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| 06:32.04 | PaulFertser | undrwater: if you set BTADAPTER, the message can't be the same. |
| 06:32.43 | undrwater | mdbus2 -s org.bluez $BTADAPTER/dev_00_0A_9B_78_14_02 org.bluez.Headset.Connect |
| 06:32.43 | undrwater | Unknown option --help' |
| 06:32.44 | undrwater | Run 'mdbus2 --help' to see a full list of available command line options. |
| 06:33.14 | PaulFertser | undrwater: run the command that sets BTADAPTER part by part to see why it gets you a wrong result. |
| 06:33.26 | undrwater | ok |
| 06:34.37 | PaulFertser | It used to work for me, not sure what might have changed. |
| 06:34.39 | undrwater | sorry...what are the different parts of that command? |
| 06:35.00 | undrwater | i have a hard time understanding where one ends and the other starts :( |
| 06:35.37 | PaulFertser | undrwater: dbus-send ... is one part, then it uses a pipe (|) to pass it to tail, then it uses a pipe to pass it to sed. |
| 06:35.40 | PaulFertser | 3 parts overall. |
| 06:37.59 | undrwater | dbus-send --system --dest=org.bluez --print-reply / org.bluez.Manager.DefaultAdapter |
| 06:37.59 | undrwater | method return sender=:1.24 -> dest=:1.32 reply_serial=2 |
| 06:37.59 | undrwater | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:38.22 | undrwater | should i pastebin? or is this OK? |
| 06:39.01 | PaulFertser | undrwater: ok |
| 06:39.31 | undrwater | echo $BTADAPTER |
| 06:39.31 | undrwater | /org/bluez/811/hci0 |
| 06:39.42 | undrwater | looks like it's set, no |
| 06:39.43 | undrwater | ? |
| 06:40.29 | PaulFertser | undrwater: yes, looks perfectly correct |
| 06:41.42 | undrwater | soooo: mdbus2 org.bluez $BTADAPTER/dev_00_0A_9B_78_14_02 org.bluez.Headset.Connect |
| 06:41.42 | undrwater | [ERR]: Unknown object path /org/bluez/811/hci0/dev_00_0A_9B_78_14_02 for org.bluez |
| 06:42.20 | undrwater | looks different |
| 06:42.21 | PaulFertser | undrwater: you miss -s |
| 06:42.39 | undrwater | same result |
| 06:42.53 | PaulFertser | undrwater: then try introspection to see what's there |
| 06:43.24 | undrwater | / |
| 06:43.24 | undrwater | /org |
| 06:43.24 | undrwater | /org/bluez |
| 06:43.24 | undrwater | /org/bluez/811 |
| 06:43.24 | undrwater | /org/bluez/811/any |
| 06:43.25 | undrwater | /org/bluez/811/hci0 |
| 06:43.25 | undrwater | /org/bluez/811/hci0/dev_00_0A_9B_78_14_02 |
| 06:43.26 | undrwater | /org/bluez/test |
| 06:43.50 | undrwater | it's there :P |
| 06:44.18 | PaulFertser | Damn strange |
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| 06:45.01 | undrwater | i have to quit soon...any other ideas? |
| 06:45.22 | PaulFertser | undrwater: probably there's some tiny difference between invocations, you can try to find it... Or whatever. No idea, sounds too strange. |
| 06:46.03 | undrwater | okay...i'll post to ML with what i've done so far and see if anyone has a clue |
| 06:46.08 | undrwater | thanks! |
| 06:46.09 | PaulFertser | I.e. you can try manual way: mdbus2 -s org.bluez /org/bluez/811/hci0/dev_00_0A_9B_78_14_02 |
| 06:46.16 | undrwater | ok |
| 06:46.45 | undrwater | unknown object path |
| 06:47.24 | undrwater | dbus-send? |
| 06:48.29 | PaulFertser | undrwater: yes, you can try that |
| 06:48.58 | undrwater | ok...no error |
| 06:49.05 | undrwater | dbus-send org.bluez org.bluez.811.hci0.dev_00_0A_9B_78_14_02 |
| 06:50.45 | undrwater | how to do the "connect" thing? |
| 06:51.48 | PaulFertser | undrwater: dbus-send has very different syntax, you need to look it up in the previous sections |
| 06:54.48 | undrwater | dbus-send --system --dest=org.bluez --print-reply $BTADAPTER/dev_00_0A_9B_78_14_02 org.bluez.Headset.Connect |
| 06:54.48 | undrwater | method return sender=:1.24 -> dest=:1.42 reply_serial=2 |
| 06:55.16 | PaulFertser | undrwater: looks ok |
| 06:55.27 | undrwater | yep...but no sound |
| 06:55.43 | PaulFertser | undrwater: you might want to check the framework log |
| 06:55.46 | PaulFertser | etc. |
| 06:56.10 | PaulFertser | undrwater: i'm sorry but probably debugging this issue requires more involvment/knowledge. Especially given ophoned is still somewhat broken. |
| 06:57.38 | undrwater | Ok...well..thanks for trying with me :) |
| 06:57.40 | undrwater | night! |
| 06:57.41 | PaulFertser | undrwater: thanks you for trying anyway, that's one step forward, and every step counts :) |
| 06:57.47 | PaulFertser | undrwater: good night :) |
| 06:59.47 | PaulFertser | undrwater: i now confirm there's some problem with mdbus2 |
| 06:59.53 | PaulFertser | And it looks like a regression indeed. |
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| 18:17.36 | Fox_Muldr | where do i set my provider specific sms central in shr-u? i cant find it in the wiki |
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| 19:22.40 | Fox_Muldr | if i have problems sending and receiving sms with shr-u what log is the best starting place to look at? at the moment there are quite a bunch of different fso logs at /var/log :) |
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| 20:27.44 | ThibG | hi |
| 20:28.02 | ThibG | is mtest in u-boot supposed to have false-positives? |
| 20:38.45 | SpeedEvil | What does mtest do? |
| 20:39.13 | ThibG | write/read different memory patterns |
| 20:39.59 | SpeedEvil | to RAM? |
| 20:40.32 | ThibG | yeah |
| 20:41.11 | ThibG | paying a bit more attention to its output, seems it isn't reliable unless you specify the address range |
| 20:41.36 | ThibG | (it seems to test some read-only zones too) |
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| 21:08.06 | quitte | it seems my external card reader is a pos. how can i get the freerunner to act as a card reader for its internal micro sd card? |
| 21:10.25 | quitte | oh wrong channel |
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