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| 00:56.31 | slide | what agps chip doesn the openmoko use? |
| 00:56.51 | slide | ooh i see Hammerhead |
| 00:56.55 | slide | is it the, Infineon PMB2525 Hammerhead II ? |
| 00:58.54 | SpeedEvil | IIRC that's the chipset, yes |
| 00:59.34 | SpeedEvil | umm |
| 00:59.41 | SpeedEvil | actually - there are two chipsets |
| 00:59.51 | SpeedEvil | the hammerhead soas the one in the neo1973 |
| 01:00.01 | SpeedEvil | I'm unsure as to the chipset in the freerunner |
| 01:02.30 | slide | hrm |
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| 01:14.14 | slide | where can i find info on the binary? |
| 01:18.00 | slide | does gps work at all on neo? |
| 01:20.48 | SpeedEvil | what do you mean by that? |
| 01:21.00 | SpeedEvil | What are you trying to do, and wat hardware have you got |
| 01:23.23 | slide | im working on porting android to the iphone |
| 01:23.47 | slide | currently we are on 3g support |
| 01:24.16 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 01:24.32 | SpeedEvil | yes - I noticed that the chip was the same. |
| 01:24.38 | SpeedEvil | (as the neo1973) |
| 01:24.47 | slide | well i think iphone uses 2525, while neo uses 2520 |
| 01:25.04 | slide | not sure whats different |
| 01:25.12 | SpeedEvil | IIRC the chipset got dissected, and it's a 2520 in a different package |
| 01:26.07 | SpeedEvil | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hammerhead_PMB_2520 |
| 01:26.12 | slide | but it uses a wrapper driver for the closed source binary that infineon provides? |
| 01:26.19 | SpeedEvil | there was a project to reverse engineer it - which stalled |
| 01:26.22 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 01:26.36 | SpeedEvil | stalled after it was clear it wasn't in the next version of the phoen |
| 01:26.42 | slide | ah yea |
| 01:27.04 | SpeedEvil | We got to the point where it could locate to within in principle maybe 4000km in an hour. |
| 01:27.05 | slide | the neo runs on arm? |
| 01:27.17 | SpeedEvil | As we hadn't cracked the fine doppler, or data messages |
| 01:27.19 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 01:27.40 | slide | the re'd driver? |
| 01:27.42 | slide | ah |
| 01:28.08 | SpeedEvil | yes |
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| 05:34.33 | eMBee | the german openmoko wikipedia page claims that the freerunner has been criticized for having worse graphic performance than the 1973. is there anything to that? |
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| 05:48.30 | eMBee | ah, here: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-February/060278.html |
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| 12:26.42 | leosaeba | After calypso firmware upgrade (to moko11), I experience strange behavior of Freerunner (GTA02 A7+). Using SHR if it suspends...it will never wake up..and I'm unable to boot in other ways than NOR bootloader. does anybody exerienced similar problems? |
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| 13:02.41 | djp_ | leosaeba: i have same problem here with latest version of shr-unstable. if the freerunner suspends, it won't wake up again. i've turned off auto suspend, basically, otherwise it's unuseable. |
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| 13:07.05 | leosaeba | djp_: I see, the fact is that last time I used sht-testing it used to work...now it doesn't...in the meantime I've upgraded gsm module in order to install android (I didn't make it anyway). |
| 13:08.19 | djp_ | leosaeba: i've never had any trouble with coming out of suspend before. i've only ever run shr-unstable on my freerunner. it's only the latest version (released 7.5.2010) that has caused the issue for me. |
| 13:12.59 | leosaeba | djp_: Right now I'm flashing an old shr version I had previously (and I'm sure it used to work)...So I'll be sure it is not because of the gsm upgrade. |
| 13:14.38 | leosaeba | have you ever tried to install android? I tried but the autoinstall process get stuck on a white screen right after flashing qi. :( |
| 13:15.20 | djp_ | leosaeba: no. never tired to install android. |
| 13:15.28 | djp_ | tire=tried ;) |
| 13:15.42 | djp_ | can't type today... |
| 13:16.32 | leosaeba | :) |
| 13:23.00 | rafa_ | hello |
| 13:23.19 | rafa_ | I would like to let you know that there is a new |
| 13:23.24 | rafa_ | GameRunner Version. |
| 13:23.33 | rafa_ | http://gamerunner.sourceforge.net/games.html |
| 13:23.47 | rafa_ | New games and fixes :) |
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| 13:45.37 | leosaeba | djp_: I've just finished installing the old SHR version....the suspend problem is still there...and I'm sure it used to work... |
| 13:50.51 | feitingen | leosaeba: i am using moko11 on my phone, and suspend works fine for me, but i am not using shr |
| 13:52.16 | leosaeba | a hint....I've tryed again...and it refused to suspend...on dmesg here what I got: |
| 13:52.49 | leosaeba | PM: Device neo1973-pm-gsm.o failed to suspend: error -16 |
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| 13:53.47 | leosaeba | maybe I need to set some configuration for the gsm module...I really don't know.. |
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| 14:13.02 | djp_ | leosaeba: are you using unstable or testing? with old unstable versions i was fine... issue has appeared for me with the latest version of unstable |
| 14:13.19 | djp_ | has to pop out on school run... back soon... |
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| 14:16.43 | leosaeba | djp_: I think it is testing...but the fact is I have the same files I flashed 1 month ago ... they used to work then ... now they don't. The only thing changed in the mean time is the gsm firmware version |
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| 15:24.10 | djp_ | leosaeba: haven't changed my gsm firmware version here. only things changed are the root file system image and kernel image. |
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| 15:42.44 | djp_ | leosaeba: there is a newer kernel image available now... i'll try that and see if it sorts out the suspend issue... |
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| 16:05.54 | luke-jr | djp_: why would you want to suspend a phone? |
| 16:07.43 | mickeyl | battery life |
| 16:07.47 | mickeyl | :) |
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| 16:08.31 | luke-jr | phone is useless if suspended... |
| 16:08.39 | Wonka | wakes up on incoming call |
| 16:08.48 | Wonka | and on power button press |
| 16:08.52 | Wonka | need more? |
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| 16:11.19 | luke-jr | need to be running to get incoming stu ff |
| 16:12.02 | Wonka | what stuff? |
| 16:12.19 | luke-jr | voice calls, IMs, etc |
| 16:12.22 | djp_ | luke-jr: it wakes up from suspend when receiving a call |
| 16:12.56 | djp_ | luke-jr: so no issues there. always worked fine in the past. |
| 16:13.01 | luke-jr | djp_: how? |
| 16:13.15 | luke-jr | if it's suspended, it can't get a call... |
| 16:13.22 | Wonka | bullshit |
| 16:13.31 | Wonka | the gsm modem is another chip and stays awake |
| 16:13.44 | luke-jr | who said anything about GSM? |
| 16:13.53 | Wonka | and has a connection to an interrupt pin |
| 16:14.04 | Wonka | gprs is gsm too |
| 16:14.05 | luke-jr | the majority of my calls are going to be over 802.11 |
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| 16:14.46 | mickeyl | FR supports waking up via WiFi as well |
| 16:15.47 | Wonka | fullmac wifi nic ftw |
| 16:17.17 | djp_ | hmm... tried latest kernel to see if it would make a difference, but no go. trying to bring fr back to life by pressing power button, but screen just displays small flashing cursor in top left corner and... nothing. :( ah, well. suspend will have to be turned off for now. guess it's a bug in the latest shr-unstable release. |
| 16:19.58 | luke-jr | FR supports waking up via WiFi without waking up for ARP? :p |
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| 17:27.23 | findlay | how likely is it that the freerunner will ever support CDMA? |
| 17:28.15 | findlay | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/CDMA |
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| 17:35.14 | [Rui] | hi, how can I record a call? |
| 17:40.15 | [Rui] | ooo dictator... |
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| 18:10.06 | mickeyl | findlay: 0% |
| 18:10.37 | mickeyl | the existing openmoko devices do not support CDMA and will never. |
| 18:10.57 | mickeyl | yes, in theory you could swap the modem |
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| 18:11.41 | mickeyl | but noone in their right mindset would attempt such an expensive and futile thing |
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| 20:05.04 | slaxxer | recon who fried opkg.org? |
| 20:05.41 | slaxxer | thats just childish |
| 20:10.53 | siebz0r | fried? |
| 20:11.39 | zub | :) |
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| 20:12.59 | SpeedEvil | sunny side up? |
| 20:18.50 | slaxxer | maybe i was dreaming instead |
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| 20:35.37 | leosaeba | djp_: I understand that your FR wakes up when you press the power button, but then hangs.....My problem is very different....The power button does nothing! The only way to bring it on is to remove the battery and aux+pwr to the NOR bootloader... |
| 20:38.13 | leosaeba | djp_: Yesterday the phone acted even more strangely; when I plugged the battery, it cycled a brief red AUX led blink plus a brief vibration...every 1 or 2 seconds.... |
| 20:38.51 | leosaeba | (without pressing anything) |
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