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| 05:33.38 | mrmoku | LionKMP: you can easily see... do you have a back and a close button on the bottom? |
| 05:33.57 | mrmoku | LionKMP: then it's illume2... if not it's old illume |
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| 07:03.30 | JaMa | eMBee: did you resolve your gpsd issue yestarday? |
| 07:04.21 | eMBee | JaMa: no, i tried your suggestion, but it didn't help. it did make the no gpsd error go away, but still no location |
| 07:04.42 | JaMa | what does fso-gpsd -N -D 3 -n show? |
| 07:04.57 | JaMa | stop it first with /etc/init.d/fso-gpsd stop |
| 07:06.31 | Heinervdm | eMBee: have you placed your FR inside or outside of the house? |
| 07:06.41 | Heinervdm | and how long did you wait? |
| 07:07.19 | eMBee | hmm, i am at the window, dont remember how long i waited but it was more than a few minutes |
| 07:07.44 | eMBee | ok, what am i looking for in the debug log? |
| 07:08.07 | eMBee | i am seeing DEBUG: Timeout: sending data to clients |
| 07:08.34 | eMBee | and stuff like: Sending nmea: $GPGGA,,,,,,0,00,,,,,,,*66 ... |
| 07:08.54 | Heinervdm | better go outside, if i go to the window i don't get a fix even with an external gps antenna |
| 07:09.47 | JaMa | eMBee: and tango still shows no gspd? |
| 07:10.11 | eMBee | no that error is gone |
| 07:10.13 | JaMa | then you have probably different gpsd url than localhost:gpsd in tango config (last tab) |
| 07:10.44 | JaMa | eMBee: so try to kill running fso-gpsd and start it with init script again |
| 07:11.11 | eMBee | gpsd host is localhost |
| 07:12.07 | JaMa | has -S gwjama:gpsd in fso-gpsd init script to make it available on wlan interface.. :) |
| 07:13.17 | eMBee | ok, i'll try outside in a few minutes... |
| 07:13.36 | eMBee | spent the afternoon figuring out wifi |
| 07:13.58 | eMBee | wifi actually works, but mokonnect can't find anything |
| 07:14.57 | eMBee | i am down to: self.bus["connman"]["/"]["Manager"]["Devices"] returning a key error, there is no key Devices |
| 07:15.22 | eMBee | wonders what's up with that |
| 07:19.51 | JaMa | is not using mokonnect/connman so I cannot comment on this |
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| 07:20.12 | eMBee | what are you using? |
| 07:20.41 | JaMa | /etc/network/interfaces + wpa_supplicant.conf with all networks I need |
| 07:21.16 | JaMa | and for some new "unknown" network iwlist+iwconfig |
| 07:21.41 | JaMa | so no gui for me |
| 07:22.00 | eMBee | ah, well, i want something that gives me a list of available networks and then allows me to connect without configuration (other than typing a password) |
| 07:22.15 | eMBee | not even sure if mokonnect would to that |
| 07:22.27 | eMBee | may need something else |
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| 07:26.18 | Heinervdm | JaMa: do you have an idea why resume is broken for shr flashed to NAND? |
| 07:27.18 | JaMa | Heinervdm: no :/ |
| 07:27.36 | JaMa | Heinervdm: can you try it with ubi? but probably unrelated to fs |
| 07:27.44 | Heinervdm | it broke between 20.4 and 24.4 |
| 07:27.48 | JaMa | Heinervdm: except some timing changes |
| 07:28.11 | Heinervdm | JaMa: i'm using uboot |
| 07:28.49 | JaMa | Heinervdm: strange.. I don't recall any change which looks related to suspend/resume (but as well I have now $HOME issue, no idea why..) |
| 07:29.04 | JaMa | Heinervdm: then it's even easier for you to update env, isn't it? :) |
| 07:29.37 | Heinervdm | i've no idea what i have to change to use ubi |
| 07:30.54 | JaMa | Heinervdm: if you want to try it: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/qi/files/rootfstype.ubifs.patch |
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| 07:33.29 | Heinervdm | JaMa: there are some errors when booting from NAND: first one is a timeout in /etc/init.d/udev |
| 07:33.48 | Heinervdm | i solved that by increasing the timeout, but that doesn't help |
| 07:34.12 | JaMa | Heinervdm: and that's new? udev 151 is here for few weeks.. |
| 07:34.27 | Heinervdm | JaMa: no that error isn't new |
| 07:34.49 | Heinervdm | hmm, and now it's there for uSD too |
| 07:35.42 | Heinervdm | i think the problem is this glamo-mci error i poszted yesterday |
| 07:36.07 | JaMa | read git log again and only interesting changes between 20-24 seems setsid and chrt provided by util-linux-ng now, but probably not related too |
| 07:36.54 | JaMa | Heinervdm: I pushed Weiss's latest patch for resolution changing yesterday, but you had it before, right? |
| 07:37.07 | Heinervdm | JaMa: yes |
| 07:37.29 | Heinervdm | and Weiss doesn't know anything about this error |
| 07:38.00 | JaMa | I can try to reflash latest ubi just to try it here later today |
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| 07:39.53 | Heinervdm | JaMa: can you try to flash to NAND? |
| 07:40.24 | JaMa | not remotely.. but will do later today.. |
| 07:40.36 | JaMa | when I arrive home...11PM or so.. |
| 07:41.25 | Heinervdm | this is dmesg of working resume: http://shr.pastebin.com/1HrC2DMq |
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| 07:48.03 | Heinervdm | dmesg of failing resume: http://shr.pastebin.com/jkN4ihe5 |
| 07:48.27 | Heinervdm | this time there the glamo-mci errors are gone, so it doesn't seem related |
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| 12:26.05 | badcloud | is there an button somewhere that erases all sms' in shr-u? |
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| 13:45.16 | zashi2 | is there a channel for wikireader developers? |
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| 13:47.22 | Heinervdm | zashi2: #openmoko-wikireader |
| 13:59.47 | zashi2 | that's what I was afraid of. :( thanks though. |
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| 14:08.08 | siebz0r | I'm trying the gdrm-2.6.32 kernel, but can't seem to find the DRM driver |
| 14:08.46 | siebz0r | Device Drivers > Graphics support > DRM > ? |
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| 14:29.08 | Weiss | siebz0r: it's next to the other Glamo options |
| 14:29.16 | Weiss | (under multifunction devices) |
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| 14:53.13 | ftn | Hi there. I flashed my freerunner with qi and unzipped the latest shr-t on my sd card but it won't start SHR (aux button is on and it vibrates briefly though). What can I do?, please |
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| 16:52.05 | chomwitt | can i start an x application from cmd line? |
| 16:52.49 | h4v | DISPLAY=:0 xlock |
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| 17:48.08 | luke-jr | chomwitt: obv #1 |
| 17:48.14 | luke-jr | chomwitt: or you have too old a lib |
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| 18:13.08 | tim_abell | is upgrading shr-t while catching up on the lists |
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| 18:47.14 | tim_abell | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/206798/ opkg upgrade of shr-t collected errors |
| 18:47.19 | tim_abell | is that bad? |
| 18:47.47 | h4v | i've got the same right now |
| 18:48.29 | tim_abell | i have ten mins to fix it before i have to go :-s |
| 18:49.39 | tim_abell | that took "real 39m 36.50s" to get to that point |
| 18:49.50 | tim_abell | i always run it with timee in front, just for kicks |
| 18:49.59 | tim_abell | time opkg upgrade |
| 18:50.49 | tim_abell | i'm running it again on the off-chance |
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| 18:52.10 | tim_abell | nope, same again |
| 18:52.12 | tim_abell | crap |
| 18:52.18 | tim_abell | anyone know the answer? |
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| 18:56.04 | tim_abell | have posted to shr-user as well, as have to go in a mo |
| 18:56.24 | max_posedon | you have 2 options |
| 18:56.54 | tim_abell | now there's a cliff hanger :) |
| 18:56.57 | max_posedon | 1. remove mesa-dri e2fsprogs-uuidgen |
| 18:57.15 | tim_abell | i know not what either of those are |
| 18:57.18 | max_posedon | 2. -allow-overwrite (or similar options for opkg) |
| 18:57.48 | tim_abell | ok, what would you recommend? bearing in mind you can't know less than me :) |
| 18:58.54 | h4v | go for 1. i've done it |
| 18:59.08 | tim_abell | i rebooted it to see what would happen. it didn't get very far as you might expect :-) still have ssh access |
| 18:59.34 | max_posedon | tim_abell, do 1. then opkg upgrade |
| 19:00.29 | tim_abell | opkg remove mesa-dri e2fsprogs-uuidgen |
| 19:00.40 | tim_abell | Package mesa-dri is depended upon by packages: xf86-video-glamo |
| 19:00.53 | tim_abell | Package e2fsprogs-uuidgen is depended upon by packages: e2fsprogs |
| 19:01.06 | tim_abell | shall i remove the dependencies too? |
| 19:01.11 | max_posedon | nope |
| 19:01.24 | max_posedon | ignore them (force-depends) or similar |
| 19:02.00 | tim_abell | --nodeps ? |
| 19:02.27 | Fox_Muldr | --force-depends |
| 19:02.40 | tim_abell | that's the opposite though |
| 19:02.53 | Fox_Muldr | than --nodeps :) |
| 19:02.56 | tim_abell | oh |
| 19:03.00 | tim_abell | "despite" |
| 19:03.03 | tim_abell | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.13 | tim_abell | confusing |
| 19:04.32 | tim_abell | k, done that. upgrading again... |
| 19:06.21 | Fox_Muldr | does anyone know a working scientific calculator for shr-u? with debian i used speedcruncher but it's not in shr-u feeds. and self compiling needs QT v4 development lib and cmake which are also not available. :/ |
| 19:07.51 | tim_abell | success |
| 19:08.11 | tim_abell | rebooting it... |
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| 19:08.24 | tim_abell | thanks max_posedon / Fox_Muldr |
| 19:09.42 | tim_abell | laters |
| 19:12.32 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: i tried galculator and it seems nice. |
| 19:12.39 | PaulFertser | With "RPN" support ec. |
| 19:12.50 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: and "bc -l" is always there ;) |
| 19:13.19 | Fox_Muldr | ok i try it. but i never realy liked rpn ;) |
| 19:13.34 | Fox_Muldr | hehe i would prefer an graphical version |
| 19:14.05 | Fox_Muldr | hmm galculator isn't in the feeds |
| 19:14.15 | Fox_Muldr | maybe i can compile ith without too much trouble :) |
| 19:15.41 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: ask shr folks for it |
| 19:16.00 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: galculator is quite popular, available from debian repo (you can just download it from there) |
| 19:16.13 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: it supports both rpn and infix notation afair. |
| 19:16.34 | Fox_Muldr | speedcrunch is also available in debian repo for neo. maybe i should try both versions from there |
| 19:17.37 | Fox_Muldr | but speedcrunch needs qt and i think shr-u has no qt. so maybe this isn't such a good idea. i should try galculator first :) |
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| 19:19.24 | bartv | hello, i'm having a problem accessing my freerunner with usb |
| 19:19.36 | bartv | it wont show up on the host |
| 19:20.07 | bartv | any ideas? |
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| 19:22.19 | PaulFertser | bartv: clarify please. |
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| 19:22.31 | PaulFertser | bartv: nothing in dmesg _at_all_? |
| 19:22.41 | bartv | no nothing at all |
| 19:22.54 | bartv | g_ether is loaded on the device |
| 19:23.02 | PaulFertser | bartv: and hostmode is not activated? |
| 19:23.09 | bartv | but nothing in dmesg or lsusb |
| 19:23.26 | bartv | how can i check that, its a standard shr install |
| 19:23.49 | Fox_Muldr | is the usb0 interface up and configured on neo? |
| 19:24.09 | bartv | yes, it looks ok on the neo |
| 19:24.26 | PaulFertser | bartv: hm, the definitive way to check your hardware: boot to NOR u-boot, check your host's dmesg. |
| 19:24.42 | PaulFertser | bartv: then (if it doesn't work) try any other usb device in the same port. |
| 19:24.58 | bartv | other devices work on the port |
| 19:25.05 | bartv | tried with usb-kb |
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| 19:25.51 | PaulFertser | bartv: try NOR u-boot. |
| 19:26.04 | PaulFertser | bartv: and try any other device with the same cable you use for FR. :) |
| 19:26.09 | PaulFertser | Well, you got the idea. |
| 19:27.00 | ftn | Hi all. I'm trying to package an application and it requires python-pygtk OR python-elementary. Is it possible to set this on the control file or anywhere else?, please |
| 19:27.08 | bartv | no reaction on nor boot |
| 19:27.55 | bartv | other device is detected |
| 19:28.54 | PaulFertser | bartv: looks like your USB connector on FR is broken, can you visually inspect it? |
| 19:29.14 | bartv | it looks ok on the outside |
| 19:30.04 | PaulFertser | bartv: fyi the host detects presence of a device because devices have 1.5k (strong) pullups on either D+ or D- line. |
| 19:30.30 | PaulFertser | bartv: if the device's malfunctioning or the cable is bad you'll see "device doesn't accept assigned address" in the log. |
| 19:30.36 | PaulFertser | But you'll get reaction. |
| 19:31.37 | PaulFertser | bartv: btw, when you booted shr-t, did it have charge indication? |
| 19:32.23 | bartv | yes, it charges alright |
| 19:33.00 | PaulFertser | Still probably D+ or D- is broken (i do not remember which is responsible for detecting 1.1 full-speed) |
| 19:33.45 | bartv | so probably a lose contact |
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| 19:46.12 | Fox_Muldr | when i try galculator from debian armel repo i get a memory access error when i try to run it in shr-u. seems they are not so compatible like i hoped. ;) |
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| 19:50.33 | Fox_Muldr | maybe i try to compile it myself at the weekend |
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| 20:03.59 | bartv | thanks PaulFertser, i'll try opening it up this weekend, taking a look on the inside |
| 20:04.21 | PaulFertser | bartv: if you're sure the cable is ok, then yes, looks like reasonable way. |
| 20:04.39 | PaulFertser | bartv: esp giving that opening is really easy if you have the needed screwdriver. |
| 20:05.18 | bartv | yes, i need to get one of those, but will try it with another cable first |
| 20:05.30 | bartv | but i think i tried that one already |
| 20:06.49 | PaulFertser | bartv: if you have some set of flat screwdrivers, one of those might work as well. |
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| 20:07.28 | bartv | tried some, they where to large |
| 20:07.49 | bartv | i'll try some at the shop |
| 20:08.29 | PaulFertser | bartv: btw, i'm using the phone without screws at all for more than a year. So you might want to unscrew and leave the screwdriver in the shop :) |
| 20:09.31 | bartv | nha, they are not that expensive |
| 20:10.34 | bartv | the neo reports a cur limit of 1000mA, the max on usb is 500, i think |
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| 20:12.44 | PaulFertser | bartv: if you use a wallcharger... |
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| 20:13.29 | bartv | no i mean max output on the host |
| 20:24.49 | chomwitt | luke-jr: thanks |
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| 20:49.05 | Fox_Muldr | is "siglaunchd" still good to use for actions on specific dbus events? i only ask because last change to siglaunchd was 13 months ago |
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| 21:53.37 | tim_abell | woooooooo |
| 21:53.39 | tim_abell | :-) |
| 21:53.44 | tim_abell | I got some code into the feeds |
| 21:53.48 | tim_abell | \o/ |
| 21:54.34 | tim_abell | and I'm in the thanks file http://code.google.com/p/omnewrotate/source/browse/trunk/THANKS |
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| 21:55.52 | tomcatek | anyone knows, how to choose what should be compiled into image and what shouldn't? |
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| 22:45.14 | tim_abell | is aclocal in the shr-t feed somewhere? |
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