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| 00:58.55 | xelapond | Hey, is there a way to trigger literki from the command line? |
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| 05:04.34 | i-pink | hii all |
| 05:04.51 | i-pink | someone here? |
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| 05:06.51 | xelapond | i-pink: Hey |
| 05:07.22 | i-pink | i get a moko from doron |
| 05:07.32 | xelapond | doron? |
| 05:07.42 | i-pink | doron ofek |
| 05:08.02 | xelapond | Ah |
| 05:08.23 | i-pink | you know him? |
| 05:08.37 | xelapond | I think i've seen his name in the mailing lists |
| 05:08.50 | i-pink | yes.. |
| 05:09.45 | i-pink | now.. how i can install hakabal? |
| 05:09.56 | xelapond | Hackable:1? |
| 05:10.19 | i-pink | i bay 4GB microsd for that |
| 05:10.27 | i-pink | yes |
| 05:10.38 | i-pink | Hackable:1 |
| 05:10.58 | xelapond | It's pretty easy; http://www.hackable1.org/wiki/Downloads |
| 05:11.16 | xelapond | You can either put it on internal flash or the uSD card |
| 05:11.20 | i-pink | what i need to download? |
| 05:11.49 | xelapond | One second, I have to restart my irc client |
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| 05:12.49 | i-pink | hii again :) |
| 05:12.53 | xelapond | Hi |
| 05:12.58 | xelapond | I'd recommend you read this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner |
| 05:14.28 | i-pink | complicated.. |
| 05:14.50 | i-pink | i think i give him the moko.. |
| 05:15.10 | i-pink | it's very hard |
| 05:15.30 | xelapond | If you're looking for an end user phone Hackable:1 probably isn't for you |
| 05:15.43 | xelapond | The Openmoko isn't really an end user phone at all |
| 05:16.05 | xelapond | Have you looked at SHR? |
| 05:16.21 | i-pink | i want something i can speak clearly.. |
| 05:16.47 | xelapond | Hm, I don't know much about the phone part of the openmoko |
| 05:17.06 | i-pink | in SHR the people not hear me very good |
| 05:17.10 | xelapond | I haven't found a way to speak clearly, and I haven't really needed it either |
| 05:17.21 | xelapond | Has your moko been buzz fixed? |
| 05:17.43 | i-pink | no |
| 05:17.56 | i-pink | and it not the buzz problem |
| 05:18.04 | xelapond | What is the problem? |
| 05:18.23 | i-pink | cutting |
| 05:18.33 | xelapond | You mean the call ends? |
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| 05:18.42 | i-pink | dfdf __DFg___fdg____DFG-___dsfg___ |
| 05:18.43 | xelapond | Or it doesn't transmit any sound? |
| 05:19.18 | i-pink | i hear part of the conversation |
| 05:19.23 | xelapond | Ah |
| 05:19.41 | xelapond | I'm not sure what the problem is then |
| 05:19.52 | i-pink | and the other side get the same |
| 05:20.01 | xelapond | The person selling you the freerunner might be able to help |
| 05:20.41 | i-pink | i my friend moko with hakabal hear perfect! |
| 05:21.02 | xelapond | Oh, that's good |
| 05:21.17 | xelapond | Well, either follow the instructions I posted above or find someone to flash it for you |
| 05:21.22 | xelapond | For now, I should be going |
| 05:21.24 | xelapond | But good luck! |
| 05:21.36 | i-pink | thanks |
| 05:24.06 | i-pink | http://www.whatsup.org.il/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=52973 |
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| 05:34.07 | i-pink | voidwalker, |
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| 05:54.03 | i-pink | hii all |
| 05:54.07 | i-pink | someone here? |
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| 06:02.56 | PaulFertser | i-pink: why ask stupid questions? |
| 06:03.18 | i-pink | what stupid questions?? |
| 06:03.58 | PaulFertser | i-pink: channel list will show you there's plenty of people in here, so why ask? |
| 06:04.41 | i-pink | nobody is answer to me |
| 06:05.04 | PaulFertser | i-pink: what is your question? |
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| 06:05.34 | i-pink | how i can install hakabal on my moko |
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| 06:06.09 | PaulFertser | i-pink: i thought you already got the answer... Why not look at h:1 official docs anyway? |
| 06:06.12 | i-pink | is the first time i try to do something with the moko |
| 06:06.21 | PaulFertser | i-pink: it's called hackable:1 , just google for it |
| 06:06.47 | i-pink | i cant understend how to do it.. |
| 06:07.06 | i-pink | PaulFertser, i get this page |
| 06:07.19 | i-pink | http://www.hackable1.org/wiki/Downloads |
| 06:07.39 | i-pink | i need to download all the files? |
| 06:08.29 | PaulFertser | i-pink: http://wiki.openmoko.org , read there about flashing NAND if you want h:1 on NAND and read there about booting from uSD if you want h:1 to be on uSD. |
| 06:08.34 | marsan | you need the uImage.bin and the .jffs2 |
| 06:08.36 | PaulFertser | i-pink: what's your particular problem? |
| 06:08.57 | i-pink | NAND?? |
| 06:09.03 | i-pink | uSD?? |
| 06:09.07 | PaulFertser | i-pink: wikipedia NAND |
| 06:09.12 | PaulFertser | i-pink: wikipedia uSD |
| 06:09.20 | i-pink | is the first time i work with moko |
| 06:09.44 | PaulFertser | I thought uSDs are so damn common in portable devices it doesn't need additional clarifications. |
| 06:10.51 | i-pink | you can guide me, step by step.. |
| 06:12.38 | PaulFertser | i-pink: you boot your PC by pressing power button for ~1 second. As soon as the OS is functional you usually need to enter your login name and password. |
| 06:12.49 | PaulFertser | i-pink: then you need to find a way to start web-browser |
| 06:13.19 | i-pink | ha ha ha |
| 06:13.21 | PaulFertser | i-pink: it can be either an icon on your desktop or an entry in some submenu |
| 06:13.29 | i-pink | not funny |
| 06:13.42 | *** mode/#openmoko [+o PaulFertser] by ChanServ |
| 06:14.02 | i-pink | i think i send the moko back.. |
| 06:14.21 | *** mode/#openmoko [-o PaulFertser] by ChanServ |
| 06:16.12 | PaulFertser | I do not want to seem to be mean but being a portable general-purpose GSM-equipped GNU/Linux running device, openmoko freerunner is targeted for those who can read. |
| 06:17.04 | i-pink | ok.. |
| 06:17.38 | i-pink | maybe moko is only for men |
| 06:18.03 | PaulFertser | It's not of course |
| 06:18.26 | PaulFertser | Women are equially capable of doing everything, i believe. |
| 06:18.47 | i-pink | http://www.whatsup.org.il/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=52973 |
| 06:18.51 | i-pink | look^ |
| 06:19.15 | PaulFertser | i-pink: that said, currently freerunner is suitable only for those who has some *nix experience and have some free time and will to tinker. But it's not anyhow related to gender. |
| 06:19.44 | PaulFertser | i-pink: i'm sorry but i can't read Hebrew |
| 06:20.10 | i-pink | the photos... |
| 06:20.34 | PaulFertser | Ok, i usually have pics off, let me enable it :) |
| 06:20.57 | i-pink | ok.. |
| 06:21.01 | PaulFertser | i-pink: nice work! |
| 06:21.35 | i-pink | you dont think is crazy? |
| 06:21.35 | PaulFertser | BTW, i've pink pedals on my bicycle ;) |
| 06:22.18 | i-pink | you are a woman? |
| 06:22.43 | PaulFertser | i-pink: no |
| 06:23.13 | i-pink | ok.. |
| 06:23.13 | PaulFertser | The pink costed less than black and moreover being bright they add safety on public roads. |
| 06:23.17 | i-pink | cool |
| 06:23.40 | i-pink | nice |
| 06:23.56 | i-pink | the moko can run python |
| 06:23.59 | i-pink | ? |
| 06:24.07 | PaulFertser | :))) i like DIY approach, and your device looks nice after painting. Probably i'm too crazy to see its craziness :) |
| 06:24.19 | PaulFertser | i-pink: sure, openmoko can run python |
| 06:24.38 | PaulFertser | i-pink: and almost any other language. But it comes with python pre-installed. |
| 06:25.12 | i-pink | i want to send http links |
| 06:25.36 | PaulFertser | To what, where? |
| 06:25.56 | i-pink | ssh link... |
| 06:26.03 | PaulFertser | i-pink: is Hebrew your native language? |
| 06:26.06 | i-pink | like that |
| 06:26.11 | i-pink | yes |
| 06:27.10 | PaulFertser | i-pink: do you use GNU/Linux or other *nix system? If you do, i think you can imagine easily what to expect from the device because it's just a small portable pc running GNU/Linux. |
| 06:27.17 | PaulFertser | You can do pretty much anything with it. |
| 06:27.44 | i-pink | ssh myuser@myip -p 25356 ossmix vmix0-outvol -q -- +1 > /dev/null |
| 06:28.10 | i-pink | something like that.. |
| 06:28.14 | i-pink | from the moko |
| 06:28.27 | PaulFertser | i-pink: Yes, you can do that easily |
| 06:28.56 | i-pink | but from the accelerometer.. |
| 06:29.20 | i-pink | if i jump the moko up is tern the vol up |
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| 06:30.32 | PaulFertser | i-pink: it's possible if you write a program to do that. Shouldn't be hard, and is a good opportunity to learn something new. |
| 06:30.50 | i-pink | cool |
| 06:30.50 | PaulFertser | There was a gesture recognition project but i'm not sure it's still alive. |
| 06:31.15 | i-pink | gesture recognition?? |
| 06:31.53 | PaulFertser | i-pink: if you want to learn, if you're into tinkering and DIYing in general and into programming in particular openmoko community is a great place to do cool things with. |
| 06:32.23 | i-pink | i love cool HWhacks.. |
| 06:32.24 | PaulFertser | i-pink: yes, a project to recognise some complex motions (with accelerometers) and run associated actions. |
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| 06:32.47 | PaulFertser | i-pink: can you solder? Is your freerunner buzz-fixed. |
| 06:33.04 | i-pink | i soldering best!! |
| 06:33.45 | i-pink | go to my ip on port 982 |
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| 06:35.09 | PaulFertser | i-pink: ok, i see the form |
| 06:35.31 | JaMa | too |
| 06:35.37 | i-pink | is my lamp |
| 06:35.49 | JaMa | it doesn't look like lamp in elinks :) |
| 06:36.21 | PaulFertser | i-pink: if your freerunner is not buzz-fixed (your seller should know) then you need to do a little SMD soldering: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Buzz_Fix |
| 06:36.46 | i-pink | smd.. is not my problem |
| 06:37.36 | i-pink | installing hakabal is the main problem... |
| 06:37.49 | i-pink | i buy 4GB micro SD for that |
| 06:38.06 | PaulFertser | i-pink: Yeah, the hardest is desoldering 0402 R, once you do that, everything else is easy :) You can also do bassfix to use your freerunner as a portable player: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix |
| 06:38.31 | PaulFertser | i-pink: so is this webform controlling light in your room? How do you connect your lamp to PC? |
| 06:38.58 | i-pink | it work on USB to rs232 |
| 06:39.18 | i-pink | i get very old moko.. |
| 06:39.34 | i-pink | i have 4 or 5 HW fixing todo.. |
| 06:41.44 | PaulFertser | i-pink: that's not bad, in fact after doing hw reworks you'll get more attached to it ;) |
| 06:42.18 | i-pink | what do you mean? |
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| 06:45.44 | PaulFertser | i-pink: i mean i hope you'll love your freerunner :) |
| 06:46.14 | i-pink | i love it allot!!1 |
| 06:46.40 | i-pink | but i need help with the installtion |
| 06:46.47 | PaulFertser | i-pink: it really gives many opportunities, including (to me it's the most important one) integration in a great community. Here you'll find cool hw hackers, cool python programmers, cool low-level tinkerers and so on. |
| 06:47.17 | PaulFertser | i-pink: why do you want H:1? Most community members use/work on SHR. Are you sure you do not want SHR? ;) |
| 06:47.45 | i-pink | i have the SHR and the sound soooooooo bad |
| 06:48.25 | PaulFertser | i-pink: how exactly is it bad? Is it bad for you or for the other side? Is it possible it's the famous gsm buzz? |
| 06:48.39 | i-pink | and my friend install the H:1 and the sound sooo good! |
| 06:48.59 | i-pink | and he dont nake the buzz fix |
| 06:49.32 | PaulFertser | There's no software workaround if it's gsm buzz. And buzz depends on many factors, including area, operator etc etc. |
| 06:50.26 | PaulFertser | Basically, every unfixed device is suspectible to buzz. But some folks are lucky enough to experience it rarely due to various factors. |
| 06:51.13 | i-pink | but me and him not make the buzz fix |
| 06:52.12 | PaulFertser | i-pink: have you tried using your device in exactly the same place he used his with the same operator? |
| 06:52.29 | i-pink | yes |
| 06:52.52 | PaulFertser | i-pink: btw, on SHR you have two volume sliders (for mic and for speaker), so you might need to tweak it during call to get acceptable quality. |
| 06:52.57 | i-pink | my moko hear like wrwe___ERE_RE_RE_RE_R_R____EWR_WER_R_ |
| 06:53.22 | PaulFertser | Try tweaking the sliders... |
| 06:53.33 | i-pink | is not quality is cutting all the time |
| 06:53.36 | i-pink | i try it.. |
| 06:54.59 | PaulFertser | i-pink: btw, freerunners are different, some has stupid capacitors in the earpiece path, some do not, and there's no way to tell it by revision number or date. So it's possible you got different models and so default SHR settings are not suitable. |
| 06:55.04 | i-pink | in very very low vol in the mic.. the sound hear without cuttings but in very low vol |
| 06:56.06 | i-pink | but on the SHR in mt friend moko is tha same |
| 06:58.18 | PaulFertser | i-pink: hm, then it means the volume settings need tweaking. I can assure you SHR is in full control of all the settings so it's a matter of you finding proper settings for your device. |
| 06:59.04 | i-pink | and the gui in the h:1 work fasssst |
| 07:00.57 | PaulFertser | i-pink: well, ok, if you like h:1, go ahead, np :) But you need to decide whether you want to run it from NAND or from uSD |
| 07:01.07 | PaulFertser | That's the first step. |
| 07:01.42 | i-pink | uSD is the micro sd? |
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| 07:02.08 | i-pink | what is better? |
| 07:02.36 | PaulFertser | i-pink: yes, u is a latin approximation of greek letter \mu which is used to mean "micro" :) |
| 07:03.28 | PaulFertser | i-pink: i'd install to SD to have "unlimited" space for additional programs. In fact i use only Debian on my FR, and it runs from SD. |
| 07:03.47 | i-pink | on SD! |
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| 07:06.37 | PaulFertser | i-pink: do you have u-boot or Qi? |
| 07:07.22 | i-pink | what? |
| 07:07.23 | PaulFertser | i-pink: it's the bootloader |
| 07:07.23 | i-pink | how i check? |
| 07:08.21 | PaulFertser | i-pink: hm, if you do not know, i suggest you install Qi. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi then you use your laptop's cardreader to make a single large ext3 partition on uSD, untar the rootfs there, copy kernel to /boot/uImage-GTA02.bin there. |
| 07:09.42 | i-pink | the guy are give me he moko say i need to make 8Mb of FAT16 partition on uSD |
| 07:09.47 | i-pink | for the boot |
| 07:12.01 | PaulFertser | i-pink: if you use Qi, it's not needed |
| 07:12.43 | PaulFertser | i-pink: i prefer Qi: it's simple and easy, i do not need menus etc to select my single debian install :) |
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| 07:14.02 | i-pink | but is not a dual boot between the SHR and the H:1 |
| 07:14.04 | i-pink | OMG!! |
| 07:14.15 | i-pink | i need to buy card reader! |
| 07:14.58 | PaulFertser | i-pink: you can flash to NAND and then use your FR as a device with integrated cardreader. |
| 07:15.09 | PaulFertser | s/flash to/flash an OS to/ |
| 07:15.49 | PaulFertser | i-pink: you can have easy enough dualboot between H:1 on uSD and SHR on NAND, just read the Qi wikipage. |
| 07:15.51 | mjr | yeah the fat partition on the sd is mostly needed for u-boot's default configuration (and not even u-boot at least if you have a newer version and configure it properly) |
| 07:17.30 | PaulFertser | mjr: i think even the latest "openmoko" u-boot doesn't support sane inode sizes for ext2/ext3. |
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| 07:18.27 | i-pink | i go to bay card reader |
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| 07:20.12 | mjr | PaulFertser, okay |
| 07:25.13 | i-pink | http://www.officedepot.co.il/catalog/catalogSku.do;jsessionid=0000wvElJU_vjPOptIsh3NWYA9J:12bbi68k5?id=4216222&pr=QJ5&N=2 |
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| 07:29.49 | i-pink | i back in 2 hours |
| 07:30.16 | i-pink | PaulFertser, you be here? |
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| 08:06.58 | PaulFertser | i-pink: yep |
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| 08:09.07 | PaulFertser | i-pink: i'm always here :D |
| 08:09.50 | marsan | PaulFertser: You always answer questions too? |
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| 10:32.32 | Fox_Muldr | does anyone have a workig openocd.cfg for gta02 and debug board v3? i want to experiment a bit with my new debug board :) |
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| 10:35.27 | Fox_Muldr | i tried the one from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_OpenOCD#openocd.cfg but it throws a few errors and openocd doesnt work |
| 10:39.28 | Fox_Muldr | but to be true i don't know if the connection to my neo is physically working correct. i opened the virtual serial port but with 115200 8N1 i only see some zeros in it while booting |
| 10:39.39 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: openocd config file format changed a bit :) |
| 10:40.51 | Fox_Muldr | i use openocd 0.4.0 for win. i read that it changed quite a bit so i hoped the 0.2.0 from the wiki would work |
| 10:41.15 | Fox_Muldr | but it always says that it can't find the ftdi device in the console |
| 10:41.24 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: 0.4.0 != 0.2.0, quite a difference. But i can assure you it should work after little tweaking. |
| 10:41.52 | Fox_Muldr | do you know what tweaking is needed to get it working? :) |
| 10:43.34 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: are you sure it says it can't find ft2232 in console? |
| 10:43.54 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: because the config file you gave me a link should work at least up to the point of finding it. |
| 10:45.37 | Fox_Muldr | on the wiki is the one i posted and a bit below a newer version for 0.2.0 but both says that they can't find the ftdi device. the driver was installed correctly and now i have a virtual serial and additionally two usb devices named "Neo1973 JTAG" and "Neo1973 Serial Port" |
| 10:46.05 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: and instead of "jtag device" and everything later use "source [find target/samsung_s3c2440.cfg]" |
| 10:46.52 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: what's usb ids for those? |
| 10:47.02 | Fox_Muldr | yes that is now in my openocd.cfg after i tried the second cfg from the wiki |
| 10:47.30 | Fox_Muldr | they should be correct. it's VIP1457 and PID5118 |
| 10:47.38 | Fox_Muldr | VID |
| 10:48.04 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: is it self-compiled openocd? Probably you miss libftdi support. |
| 10:48.09 | Fox_Muldr | MI00 for JTAG and MI01 for serial port |
| 10:48.35 | Fox_Muldr | i used a precompiled from the net |
| 10:48.53 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: make sure it's compiled with libftdi support. |
| 10:49.06 | Fox_Muldr | i take a look what it provided |
| 10:49.06 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: oh, are you using windows port? |
| 10:49.10 | Fox_Muldr | yes |
| 10:49.12 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: heh |
| 10:49.17 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: then there's a gotcha: |
| 10:49.34 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: windows port uses either libftdi or ftd2xx (or something). |
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| 10:49.54 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: you need corresponding driver, the one that works for libftdi doesn't work for ftd2xx and vice-versa. |
| 10:50.03 | Fox_Muldr | hmm ok |
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| 10:50.25 | Fox_Muldr | i search for what version it uses |
| 10:51.35 | Fox_Muldr | ok it says that the win version was compiled with libftdi + libusb-win32 and not ftd2xx.dll |
| 10:52.02 | Fox_Muldr | because of gplv2 license incompatibility |
| 10:53.37 | Fox_Muldr | but if i'm correct than the ftdi driver installed for the device uses ftd2xx.dll |
| 10:54.46 | Fox_Muldr | so i should install not the standard ftdi driver for win but instead some alternative version which uses libftdi to get it to work? |
| 10:56.01 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: exactly |
| 10:56.16 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: libftdi uses windows libusb port |
| 10:56.23 | PaulFertser | So it's not really a non-standard driver. |
| 10:56.26 | Fox_Muldr | ok, than i only have to find the corresponding libftdi driver for windows :) |
| 10:56.37 | PaulFertser | Yes, it's ~easy :) |
| 10:58.29 | Fox_Muldr | ok i found the homepage of libftdi but there are only sources and not installable binary for windows. the same goes for lubusb. it seems to be a harder task to get it working with windows instead of linux ;) |
| 11:01.11 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: it's harder task to use windows usually for anything |
| 11:02.22 | Fox_Muldr | i see that i could install libftdi.dll and libusb0.dll while installing the win version of openocd. and these two dll's are beside the openocd.exe. but it seems that this isn't enough for it to work correctly |
| 11:02.57 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: http://libusb-win32.sourceforge.net |
| 11:03.41 | Fox_Muldr | thanks |
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| 11:04.05 | Fox_Muldr | but i don't know if they will work with my win7 64bit version |
| 11:04.47 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: http://www.freddiechopin.info/index.php/en |
| 11:05.16 | Fox_Muldr | from there i got my openocd version for win |
| 11:06.12 | Fox_Muldr | this win version included libftdi and libusb for win. and i already installed them with it but it seems not to work. maybe because i use a 64bit os :) |
| 11:06.21 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: hm, yes, i see. You can try to google if libusb-win32 already supports win7 64 bit or not. |
| 11:06.33 | PaulFertser | Probably there's a newer version |
| 11:06.43 | Fox_Muldr | i see that there is a experimental openocd-dev version for 64bit os |
| 11:07.07 | Fox_Muldr | i will try this version now. i think it has better chances of working |
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| 11:07.52 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: but you'll need to tweak your windows to install unsigned drivers i guess. |
| 11:08.03 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: (for libftdi way) |
| 11:08.13 | Fox_Muldr | i already have disabled driver checking because it is anoying ;) |
| 11:08.14 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: are you sure you really need to use windows for debugging? |
| 11:08.37 | Fox_Muldr | no, i only want to try the debug board out a bit |
| 11:08.56 | Fox_Muldr | it was a free givt with my last order for a new gta02 battery ;) |
| 11:09.05 | Fox_Muldr | gift |
| 11:11.31 | Fox_Muldr | i also read that the virtual serial port could show kernel debug messages. does this work by default or do i have to add some kernel boot parameter for this? |
| 11:12.10 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: it should work by default, you should see kernel debug messages |
| 11:12.42 | Fox_Muldr | and 115200 8N1 is the right connection setting? |
| 11:12.50 | PaulFertser | Fox_Muldr: if you just want to try the debug board, why do not you just try it at home? |
| 11:12.55 | PaulFertser | Yes, right. |
| 11:13.00 | Fox_Muldr | i am at home |
| 11:13.13 | Fox_Muldr | got free today ;) |
| 11:15.02 | Fox_Muldr | but my only linux pc is one floor downstairs and used as a server. so it is a bit difficult to work with it at the current place |
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| 11:16.56 | PaulFertser | Win64 at home? pity |
| 11:16.58 | PaulFertser | ;) |
| 11:17.03 | Fox_Muldr | hehe |
| 11:17.25 | Fox_Muldr | the 64bit version of openocd has 64bit linusb drivers packed with it. i will try these |
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| 11:43.56 | Fox_Muldr | hmm libusb installed with warnings but still no luck. i think i will try it tomorrow with a second linux pc again. for today i have to do more important things now. :) |
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| 12:44.46 | i-pink | PaulFertser, i BACK! |
| 12:45.06 | PaulFertser | i-pink: yo |
| 12:45.07 | PaulFertser | :) |
| 12:45.26 | i-pink | i have a card reader now |
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| 15:22.47 | *** topic/#openmoko is Users of Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware | WikiReader users, please join #openmoko-wikireader | Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | German folks might consider to join #openmoko-de | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org + http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | Make sure to check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 |
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| 16:21.22 | elopio | hello. I've just switched back to shr-unstable. |
| 16:21.34 | elopio | and I can't see my contacts. Any idea of what can I do? |
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| 16:23.22 | PaulFertser | elopio: what opimd backend were/are you using to store them? |
| 16:23.34 | PaulFertser | marsan: yes, i do, at least i try |
| 16:23.41 | marsan | :) |
| 16:24.26 | elopio | PaulFertser: I don't know what is an opimd backend. |
| 16:25.02 | PaulFertser | elopio: hm, it's the way opimd stores data. |
| 16:25.14 | PaulFertser | elopio: it can be sim or csv file or sqlite database etc |
| 16:25.18 | elopio | I just have them on the sim card. As were stored by my previous prehistoric phone. |
| 16:25.42 | elopio | ok, then I use the sim as opimd backend :) |
| 16:25.51 | PaulFertser | elopio: i suggest you search SHR ml archives, there were elaborate instructions about migrating contacts from sim. |
| 16:26.23 | elopio | ok, I will do. |
| 16:26.23 | PaulFertser | I'm not sure but probably opimd no longer supports SIM as primary means of contact storage. |
| 16:26.54 | elopio | that's new, because I remember I used to access the contacts without problems. |
| 16:26.58 | elopio | well, thanks PaulFertser |
| 16:27.56 | PaulFertser | elopio: i migrated my contacts with one mdbus command to retrieve them from SIM, then started vim, a couple of commands including :%s/blablabla/opimd-cli c add Name \1 Telephone \2/ , then "sh <file>" blablabla |
| 16:28.21 | PaulFertser | But it's "leet" way, i think shr devs recommend using pisi instead. |
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| 16:28.32 | PaulFertser | elopio: and also recent shr-settings version have an option for that. |
| 16:28.47 | PaulFertser | It's just that i do not use SHR, i rather use some parts of it on debian. |
| 16:29.41 | elopio | hey, you are right. I found an application called sim manager on shr settings. |
| 16:29.48 | elopio | It has all my contacts :) |
| 16:30.01 | elopio | thanks PaulFertser! |
| 16:30.12 | PaulFertser | elopio: welcome |
| 16:30.57 | elopio | I'm loving this thing. |
| 16:31.18 | elopio | ventura is great. I think that now I'll stick with shr :D |
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| 19:40.29 | swoody | So how tough is the FR? It looks pretty bulky. Does anybody know if anyone out there has done any kind of stress tests with them? |
| 19:40.44 | swoody | isn't planning on destroying his FR, just curious :) |
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| 19:51.28 | marsan | hey |
| 19:51.41 | marsan | how do i take screenshot in the latest SHR? |
| 19:53.12 | JesusMcCloud | swoody, my list of accidents: |
| 19:54.42 | JesusMcCloud | dropped down the stairs, got rammed into the edge of a table display out front, fell from my desk a couple of times, a friend could fetch it when i threw it at him, it was laying at the edje of the table and i accidentally flipped it to the wall... and it is still working |
| 19:54.54 | JesusMcCloud | all in all it seems indestrucable |
| 19:55.06 | swoody | JesusMcCloud: that's very good to hear :) |
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| 19:55.16 | swoody | not for your phone, but in general ;) |
| 19:55.30 | JesusMcCloud | marsan, install gpe-scap! |
| 19:55.33 | marsan | ok |
| 20:00.00 | marsan | JesusMcCloud: thanks, it worked |
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| 20:14.51 | i-pink | PaulFertser, i BACK! |
| 20:14.52 | i-pink | PaulFertser, i BACK! |
| 20:14.54 | i-pink | i have a card reader now |
| 20:14.55 | i-pink | i have a card reader now |
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| 21:04.53 | kirun | What's up with opkg.org ... AVG threw a fit saying it linked to a dangerous site |
| 21:05.08 | kirun | I think it was this in the source: <script src="http://crewamerica.ru:8080/google.com/yelp.com/google.com.php" defer=""></script> |
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