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| 00:27.49 | noxchat_tester | hola desde el FR |
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| 00:53.48 | Slaxxed | xfhzgn |
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| 01:07.41 | *** topic/#openmoko is Users of Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware | WikiReader users, please join #openmoko-wikireader | Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | German folks might consider to join #openmoko-de | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org + http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | Make sure to check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 |
| 01:10.17 | Slaxxed | d |
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| 01:33.21 | DocScrutinizer | ~flashing |
| 01:33.21 | apt | i heard flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
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| 01:36.10 | DocScrutinizer | ~#openmoko xxx is yyy |
| 01:36.11 | apt | okay, DocScrutinizer |
| 01:36.15 | DocScrutinizer | ~xxx |
| 01:36.16 | apt | well, xxx is yyy |
| 01:42.36 | DocScrutinizer | ~no, #openmoko xxx is yyyXXX |
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| 01:43.05 | DocScrutinizer | apt: ?? |
| 01:43.18 | DocScrutinizer | ~botsnack |
| 01:43.18 | apt | DocScrutinizer: :) |
| 01:43.37 | DocScrutinizer | ~#openmoko xxx is yyyXXX |
| 01:43.37 | apt | ...but #openmoko xxx is already something else... |
| 01:43.44 | DocScrutinizer | ~no, #openmoko xxx is yyyXXX |
| 01:44.06 | DocScrutinizer | ~forget #openmoko xxx |
| 01:44.06 | apt | i forgot #openmoko xxx, DocScrutinizer |
| 01:44.13 | DocScrutinizer | ~#openmoko xxx is yyyXXX |
| 01:44.14 | apt | okay, DocScrutinizer |
| 01:44.50 | DocScrutinizer | ~xxx |
| 01:44.50 | apt | well, xxx is yyyXXX |
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| 10:25.03 | Moz | !seen stefan schmidt |
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| 11:15.00 | badcloud | anyone there today? |
| 11:15.44 | tomcatek | nope :) |
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| 11:17.27 | badcloud | tomcatek: haha. where whould we be with your type of humor ;) |
| 11:18.04 | badcloud | I need to fix my fr using the board, but I don't know what's wrong with it |
| 11:18.16 | badcloud | would you mind taking a look at the last dmesg output? |
| 11:18.23 | badcloud | http://pastebin.com/C8xJq8xz |
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| 12:25.30 | badcloud | is anyone here d. board savvy? |
| 12:25.41 | badcloud | I really need some help |
| 12:26.45 | Weiss | what kind of savvy? |
| 12:26.59 | Weiss | is kind of here, but will be on and off a bit for the next couple of hours |
| 12:27.37 | badcloud | welll... |
| 12:27.40 | badcloud | I need a bit of help! I got the d. board connection running in su (/dev/ttyUSB0), 'make' worked for devirginator but I can't locate './devirginate', and openocd is giving me http://pastebin.com/kJGVPVWV; openocd.cfg --> http://pastebin.com/y4nWg4Bv (consistent w/lsusb iproduct output) |
| 12:27.56 | badcloud | whoops, should have scratched off the first sentance |
| 12:28.04 | badcloud | but you get the idea ;) |
| 12:28.50 | PaulFertser | badcloud: you have openocd version incompatible with your config |
| 12:28.55 | PaulFertser | badcloud: what are you trying to do anyway? |
| 12:29.18 | badcloud | PaulFertser: thanks |
| 12:29.31 | badcloud | I have a feeling something needs to be fixed |
| 12:29.36 | PaulFertser | Open On-Chip Debugger (2006-08-01) <-- looks damn old :) |
| 12:29.40 | badcloud | so I figured a factory reset would do |
| 12:30.02 | badcloud | I get two bad block tables on dmesg |
| 12:30.03 | PaulFertser | badcloud: if your NOR u-boot is working, you basically do not need neither debug board, nor devirginator. |
| 12:30.13 | badcloud | I see |
| 12:30.26 | badcloud | I flashed latest shr-t |
| 12:30.38 | badcloud | and it needs two boots for gsm registration |
| 12:30.54 | badcloud | plus I can't edit contact fields (even after taking a look at trac) |
| 12:31.52 | badcloud | I guess it's easy for someone who doesn't understand to just blame the first sour thing that shows up on dmesg |
| 12:32.01 | badcloud | PaulFertser: what do you suggest? |
| 12:32.36 | PaulFertser | badcloud: can you show your dmesg? |
| 12:32.45 | badcloud | sure, one sec |
| 12:32.54 | badcloud | http://pastebin.com/C8xJq8xz |
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| 12:36.15 | PaulFertser | badcloud: hm. I think you can try booting from uSD to eliminate possibility of NAND oddities. Also usual advice follows: latest bootloader version in NAND, latest modem firmware... |
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| 12:41.27 | badcloud | PaulFertser: thanks sooo much |
| 12:43.28 | PaulFertser | badcloud: hope you'll manage |
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| 13:41.00 | badcloud | PaulFertser: still there? |
| 13:41.08 | badcloud | I'm getting dfu_download error -110 |
| 13:41.17 | badcloud | when uploading the latest uImage kernel |
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| 13:45.48 | badcloud | 'end of write exceeds partition end' shows up on screen |
| 13:46.35 | badcloud | nm, my mistake |
| 13:49.35 | badcloud | sry for the noise |
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| 18:35.50 | The_Ball | Hi guys, anybody know "werner" and if he usually hangs around here? |
| 18:36.48 | Heinervdm | The_Ball: which werner? |
| 18:37.11 | The_Ball | Heinervdm, wpwrack, looks like he is in the cdevel chanel |
| 18:37.39 | Heinervdm | The_Ball: wpwrack is a werne :) |
| 18:38.26 | The_Ball | Oh ok, he uses "Werner" as his signature quite a lot |
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| 19:41.50 | FreedomSound | Hello ! |
| 19:42.18 | FreedomSound | The Wiki gimme old informations for debian about usb host mode |
| 19:42.46 | FreedomSound | how to turn USB to host mode with latest debian (kernel 2,6,32 |
| 19:42.51 | FreedomSound | ) |
| 19:42.53 | FreedomSound | ?? |
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| 20:52.22 | voidwalker | i was wondering, is it possible, with openmoko phone or other phones , to connect it to a computer, and have it used remotely |
| 20:52.30 | voidwalker | from another computer on the internet |
| 20:52.39 | voidwalker | like a phon proxy/server |
| 20:52.44 | max_posedon | yes, its possible |
| 20:52.57 | voidwalker | so the police won't know where i called from |
| 20:53.00 | voidwalker | just kidding |
| 20:53.00 | voidwalker | D: |
| 20:53.09 | voidwalker | how is it possible? |
| 20:53.18 | tomcatek | voidwalker: You can ssh into FR if You set up the envirenmenr |
| 20:53.19 | tomcatek | t |
| 20:53.20 | max_posedon | easy, most simple way |
| 20:53.32 | max_posedon | install asterisk on freerunner |
| 20:53.32 | tomcatek | and use it via mdbus |
| 20:53.54 | max_posedon | little coding, and you will be able redirect calls |
| 20:54.34 | max_posedon | there are many variants to do such thing |
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| 20:57.49 | voidwalker | hmm |
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| 21:24.40 | wbk | hi all! |
| 21:28.22 | tim_abell | so, what does closed/upstream mean in the shr trac? |
| 21:28.32 | tim_abell | http://www.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/974 |
| 21:28.42 | tim_abell | does that mean that the shr people are no longer interested? |
| 21:29.30 | tim_abell | does the shr distro not keep track of which upstream bugs are affecting it? |
| 21:36.34 | tim_abell | Error: org.freesmartphone.PIM.InvalidField - Query rule '_float_gt_Timestamp' does not exist. - Segmentation fault |
| 21:36.35 | tim_abell | doh |
| 21:36.44 | tim_abell | launcher is crashing |
| 21:36.58 | tim_abell | i was trying to reproduce my other bug report |
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| 21:44.01 | tim_abell | http://code.google.com/p/shr-launcher/issues/detail?id=12 |
| 21:44.13 | tim_abell | http://code.google.com/p/shr-launcher/issues/detail?id=11 |
| 21:44.22 | tim_abell | http://code.google.com/p/shr-launcher/issues/detail?id=10 |
| 21:44.27 | tim_abell | is on a bug filing spree |
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| 22:12.28 | tim_abell | where can i get /usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi for ubuntu ? |
| 22:12.35 | tim_abell | trying to compile omnewrotate |
| 22:16.17 | tim_abell | anyone there? |
| 22:16.20 | tim_abell | very quiet today |
| 22:16.38 | [Rui] | hi |
| 22:17.01 | [Rui] | tim_abell: what distribution do you use on the FreeRunner? |
| 22:17.07 | tim_abell | shr-t |
| 22:17.14 | [Rui] | tim_abell: cool. opkg install omnewrotate :) |
| 22:17.28 | tim_abell | done that, want to change it now ;) |
| 22:17.35 | [Rui] | ah good :) |
| 22:17.50 | [Rui] | I accept patches, please maintain the style :) |
| 22:18.12 | [Rui] | tim_abell: the best way is to use shr's instructions. |
| 22:18.41 | [Rui] | tim_abell: it may take a while on a fast cpu, but if you get to build shr-lite-image then you'll surely be able to build omnewrotate |
| 22:19.29 | [Rui] | tim_abell: did you check http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building%20SHR ? |
| 22:20.27 | tim_abell | nope, that's the link i was looking for. ta! |
| 22:20.47 | tim_abell | are you the author of omnewrotate? |
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| 22:21.03 | [Rui] | tim_abell: yes |
| 22:21.22 | tim_abell | cool, did you see my post to the lists about init.d etc? |
| 22:21.29 | tim_abell | good work by the way |
| 22:22.11 | [Rui] | tim_abell: thanks :) I used it as a way to have something I wanted working better than what there used to be, and at the same time learning how to program for this device :) |
| 22:22.18 | [Rui] | tim_abell: now I mostly focus on elmdentica |
| 22:22.35 | [Rui] | tim_abell: I didn't see your post, which mailing list? |
| 22:23.50 | tim_abell | hmm, should have gone to devel |
| 22:24.40 | tim_abell | brb |
| 22:25.24 | [Rui] | tim_abell: btw, I'm not running omnewrotate right now, because all that action appears to trigger a very obscure bug where you get a black screen of death. |
| 22:26.00 | [Rui] | tim_abell: I *think* it's something either in hardware or driver, but I can't help much more in there and as it hasn't happened to Weiss, we're sort of stuck :| |
| 22:26.21 | tim_abell | oh deary me! |
| 22:26.37 | Weiss | still working on stable xrandr for KMS :) |
| 22:27.52 | tim_abell | i think my mail may have gone missing |
| 22:27.57 | [Rui] | Weiss: I'm craving for your brilliant mind to find a cure :) |
| 22:28.12 | [Rui] | tim_abell: yeah, I was about to tell you I couldn't find it even in the archives. |
| 22:28.24 | tim_abell | gah, everything is so annoying |
| 22:28.52 | tim_abell | i see it in my own inbox, complete with the footer added by the list server |
| 22:29.05 | tim_abell | 25/3/2010 |
| 22:29.26 | [Rui] | I'm also plaged by millions of bugs in Elementary stuff on elmdentica. weird crashes and so on, but on *EFL* libraries and not on my stuff |
| 22:29.47 | tim_abell | ah, wrong list |
| 22:29.53 | [Rui] | tim_abell: I could have erased it locally without reading but... |
| 22:30.03 | [Rui] | I didn't find it in shr-devel list |
| 22:30.07 | tim_abell | i sent it to devel@lists.openmoko.org, not the shr devel |
| 22:30.09 | tim_abell | meh |
| 22:30.21 | [Rui] | oh |
| 22:31.09 | tim_abell | re-sending |
| 22:31.19 | [Rui] | you don't need that |
| 22:31.28 | tim_abell | http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-devel/2010-March/002419.html |
| 22:31.37 | [Rui] | you can just setup a config option so it doesn't start on resume |
| 22:32.05 | tim_abell | so i gathered, but you might be interested in what i've done anyway |
| 22:33.05 | [Rui] | I'll check it out, most likely on easter where I'll have nothing better to do and strongly need distractions from a boring period |
| 22:33.23 | tim_abell | lol, cool |
| 22:33.35 | tim_abell | the other thing i want to change is the thresholds for rotation |
| 22:33.57 | tim_abell | 45deg is quite annoying, it would be much nicer for it to wait till it was nearly level |
| 22:34.15 | tim_abell | i find on a call it's constantly rotating as i hold the phone to my ear at around 45deg |
| 22:34.44 | [Rui] | can you send me in diffs? |
| 22:35.21 | [Rui] | tim_abell: or add as a feature request with patch in code.google.com/p/omnewrotate ? :) |
| 22:35.40 | tim_abell | i hadn't got as far as finding the original source when i created those changes |
| 22:35.46 | tim_abell | i'm sure you'll cope :) |
| 22:35.48 | [Rui] | tim_abell: well, I wouldn't worry about that too much |
| 22:35.58 | [Rui] | tim_abell: in fact, the job of rotation should be the Window Manager's |
| 22:36.15 | tim_abell | indeed it should, but paper tigers and all that |
| 22:36.49 | [Rui] | tim_abell: yeah, however a daemon will have a lot more trouble doing nice efects for rotation :) |
| 22:37.27 | tim_abell | if you say so. i just found what i did is much more bearable than the defaults, and i'm into init scripts and daemons at the moment |
| 22:37.29 | [Rui] | tim_abell: as you must've noticed, all I do is link to libxrandr and do their system calls, which is basically not a rotation but switch orientation :) |
| 22:37.41 | tim_abell | i hadn't got as far as reading the source |
| 22:37.47 | tim_abell | was just about to |
| 22:37.48 | [Rui] | tim_abell: yeah, I meant about the sensibility |
| 22:38.02 | [Rui] | tim_abell: I noticed you added support for start stop daemon, which is very cool :) |
| 22:38.27 | tim_abell | yeah, i like that. been playing with it debian servers for crappy proprietary software at work |
| 22:38.40 | [Rui] | and now I also need to go to bed... |
| 22:38.40 | tim_abell | (backupexec client) |
| 22:38.45 | tim_abell | me too |
| 22:38.51 | tim_abell | good to chat, see you around |
| 22:38.59 | tim_abell | thanks again for your work |
| 22:39.02 | [Rui] | tim_abell: yeah, sure :) see ya! |
| 22:39.08 | [Rui] | tim_abell: thanks |
| 22:39.08 | tim_abell | i wouldn't have had any rotate without it :) |
| 22:39.29 | [Rui] | there are many other rotation programs, I can't say if the newer ones work better or not |
| 22:39.43 | [Rui] | tim_abell: nowadays, FSO is also aware of the orientation |
| 22:39.43 | tim_abell | yours is the only one in the shr-t feeds i think |
| 22:40.18 | [Rui] | tim_abell: so now a window manager only needs to plug to the proper dbus signals (so a lot less work there). |
| 22:40.57 | tim_abell | i'll take your word for it :) |
| 22:40.58 | [Rui] | tim_abell: I've still not been brave enough to try to do an emodule to plug into that, however |
| 22:41.10 | tim_abell | laters |
| 22:41.16 | [Rui] | tata! |
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