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| 01:53.54 | Azuvix | xchat is supposed to be available for SHR, right? |
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| 06:22.54 | jaacoppi | ./configure && make && make install ? |
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| 09:46.30 | satish | how to use the spi_s3c24xx.c file to communicate with spi device |
| 09:47.16 | satish | http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/lxr/source/drivers/spi/spi_s3c24xx.c?v=linux-2.6.32 |
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| 14:46.50 | Zoup | I need a way to have FR connected to mass storage device while attached to charger, imagine kind of NAS , any idea? |
| 14:51.37 | tomcatek | Zoup: connect to storege via wifi? |
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| 14:52.08 | Heinervdm | Or use a USB hub |
| 14:53.23 | mjr | for instance http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.13526 as used by http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Lindi |
| 14:54.10 | mjr | plug the data+power port on the FR, the power port onto something feeding 5V, and set the FR to act as a host but not feed power to the USB |
| 14:54.54 | Zoup | tomcatek: if i had some kind of storage with wifi why would i need another ? :)) |
| 14:55.16 | Zoup | tomcatek: ideally i need another way to boot device, adaptor to battery pins for example |
| 14:55.18 | mjr | (or, of course, kludge together a similar wiring arrangement with a more random hub |
| 14:55.44 | Zoup | mjr: interesting.. |
| 14:55.59 | tomcatek | Zoup: i tought rather on plugging storage to Your computer and mounting it using NFS via wifi |
| 14:56.17 | tomcatek | bit it doesn't work for booting ;) |
| 14:56.51 | Zoup | tomcatek: ops :I |
| 14:57.06 | Zoup | mjr: can device get charged by usb when is on host mode for mass storage? |
| 14:57.31 | mjr | afaik yes |
| 14:57.49 | mjr | (for the FR, that is; it's extra-standard behavior) |
| 14:57.59 | Zoup | well that will solve lots of problems :) |
| 14:58.05 | Zoup | FR is open for hacks :)) |
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| 14:59.02 | mjr | anyway, that's afaik how lindi uses it (well, I dunno if he has storage there, but keyboard and 3g stick ;) |
| 14:59.22 | mjr | he's around here sometimes too if you want to ask stuff, but apparently not now |
| 14:59.33 | Zoup | mjr: thanks pal :) |
| 14:59.35 | Zoup | tomcatek: thanks :) |
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| 15:57.24 | DocScrutinizer | Zoup: see wiki y-cable |
| 15:58.37 | Zoup | DocScrutinizer: awesome, thanks |
| 15:58.50 | DocScrutinizer | Zoup: this probelm 'officially' solved by me 2 years ago ;-) |
| 15:58.50 | Zoup | DocScrutinizer: guess i can make that on my own, it will be fun |
| 15:59.05 | Zoup | DocScrutinizer: no credit for you? :)) |
| 15:59.36 | DocScrutinizer | all your credit are belong to us |
| 16:00.20 | DocScrutinizer | google for "joerg openmoko y-cable" |
| 16:00.42 | DocScrutinizer | just enough credit :-P |
| 16:01.22 | Zoup | DocScrutinizer: without community FR is a sad joke :) |
| 16:02.03 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
| 16:02.53 | DocScrutinizer | though my cloak might tell you it's not exectly been community who invented y-cable |
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| 16:05.29 | DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Specialized_USB_cables#How_to_make_a_USB_cable_for_powering_attached_USB_devices_and_charging_the_Neo_while_in_host_mode_.28aka_Y-Cable.29 |
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| 17:41.13 | DocScrutinizer | ~botsnack |
| 17:41.13 | apt | aw, gee, DocScrutinizer |
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| 21:19.30 | tim_abell | nrg. |
| 21:19.41 | tim_abell | i can't get start-stop-daemon --test to behave |
| 21:21.25 | tim_abell | ah, got it |
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| 22:01.36 | tim_abell | hurrah, i've sorted out omnewrotate to not be so annoying |
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| 22:03.30 | tim_abell | http://www.timwise.co.uk/om/omnewrotate-init.tar.gz |
| 22:03.42 | tim_abell | converted to proper service |
| 22:04.12 | tim_abell | also need to: rm -f /etc/apm/suspend.d/11omnewrotate-suspend /etc/apm/resume.d/89omnewrotate-resume |
| 22:04.26 | tim_abell | right, who do i talk to to get the shr package updated with my changes? |
| 22:04.53 | tim_abell | i gather i'm not the only one who found the crazy auto-restart after resume annoying |
| 22:05.26 | tim_abell | the tgz is replacement files for the opkg |
| 22:05.26 | DocScrutinizer | first with a number of devels reviewing and confirming it. Then with mrmoku |
| 22:05.48 | tim_abell | is anyone particularly interested in omnewrotate? |
| 22:05.56 | DocScrutinizer | /join #openmoko-cdevel |
| 22:06.13 | tim_abell | ooh, a promotion :D |
| 22:06.46 | tim_abell | i'll send details to the mailing list |
| 22:06.57 | DocScrutinizer | or that |
| 22:08.00 | DocScrutinizer | anyway tweaking /etc/apm/*/foo is a developer thing. See topic regarding developers |
| 22:08.18 | tim_abell | so i should send it to the devel list, right? |
| 22:08.33 | DocScrutinizer | espif you're thinking of getting your tweaks into the distro |
| 22:12.04 | tim_abell | i can't send attachments can i? |
| 22:14.03 | DocScrutinizer | dunno, I'm not checking the SHR MLs |
| 22:15.16 | DocScrutinizer | I'd duggest /join #openmoko-cdevel and sort out abot it in direct chat |
| 22:16.57 | DocScrutinizer | as I seem to remember there's been some reason to add omnewrotate to the suspend/resume management |
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| 22:21.46 | tim_abell | i'll take your word for it, but it works a damn sight better for me without it :) |
| 22:21.58 | tim_abell | it's unusable for me in the default state |
| 22:22.36 | tim_abell | when the phone resumes to ring, the rotate always kicks in and the answer button doesn't stop moving! |
| 22:22.48 | tim_abell | cos taking it out of my pocket = rotate |
| 22:23.02 | tim_abell | i prefer to have it not autorotate unless i want it |
| 22:23.23 | DocScrutinizer | tim_abell: we seen quite a number of changes with xorg and format/rotation recently. All the omnewrotate might be legacy from old times |
| 22:23.44 | tim_abell | that's as maybe but i haven't seen anything better yet |
| 22:24.12 | tim_abell | my mail has hit the lists |
| 22:24.16 | DocScrutinizer | s/might/apm handling might/ |
| 22:24.19 | tim_abell | off to walk the dog now |
| 22:26.40 | Bane^ | tim_abell, you can disable autostart after resume in /etc/default/omnewrotate.conf already |
| 22:28.05 | tim_abell | doesn't seem to have any effect |
| 22:28.19 | Bane^ | it does on my shr :) |
| 22:28.25 | tim_abell | oh okay |
| 22:28.30 | tim_abell | maybe i didn't try that right |
| 22:28.40 | tim_abell | can i suggest the default should at least be "no" |
| 22:28.47 | tim_abell | as it is a terrible feature |
| 22:28.55 | Bane^ | agreed |
| 22:29.00 | tim_abell | it would be ok if everything worked perfectly |
| 22:29.14 | tim_abell | but it's too slow sometimes (when trying to answer a call) |
| 22:29.23 | tim_abell | and not everything renders right sideways |
| 22:29.28 | tim_abell | (though improving) |
| 22:29.45 | tim_abell | it is also annoying that the threshold for rotation is 45 deg |
| 22:29.57 | tim_abell | should be much nearer horizontal / vertical, say 80 deg |
| 22:30.11 | tim_abell | so that it doesn't rotate unless you really do want it sideways |
| 22:30.22 | tim_abell | it's forever flicking when i don't want it to |
| 22:30.53 | Bane^ | yeah, picking up the phone makes it rotate couple of times. it is too sensitive |
| 22:30.56 | tim_abell | i also thought the supplied scripts were pretty nasty compared to using the init system |
| 22:31.16 | tim_abell | lots of ps | grep | awk rather than normal init.d stuff |
| 22:31.29 | tim_abell | i've converted it to use start-stop-daemon |
| 22:31.37 | tim_abell | much neater |
| 22:32.04 | tim_abell | i really am going now, honest |
| 22:32.23 | tim_abell | i hope no-one thinks me rude, i am just trying to improve things |
| 22:32.36 | tim_abell | and am most grateful to the authors/packagers of omnewrotate |
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