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| 00:07.16 | tim_abell | why would cron be using 94% cpu on my shr-t? |
| 00:07.36 | tim_abell | it's clocked up 20 mins of cpu time now |
| 00:07.49 | tim_abell | how do i find out what it's doing and why? |
| 00:08.17 | tim_abell | cat /etc/crontab |
| 00:08.17 | tim_abell | */5 * * * * /sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf |
| 00:12.52 | badcloud | tim_abell: did you find out? |
| 00:13.03 | tim_abell | nope |
| 00:13.05 | badcloud | I'm curious if this is a common issue to look out for |
| 00:13.55 | tim_abell | i reniced it and my choppy call started behaving |
| 00:14.30 | badcloud | did you check lsof? |
| 00:14.50 | tim_abell | -sh: lsof: not found |
| 00:15.03 | badcloud | I'm sure you can opkg install it |
| 00:15.15 | tim_abell | oh, it's dropped off the process list now |
| 00:15.19 | tim_abell | wonder what it was up to |
| 00:15.38 | tim_abell | well, off the top of "top" anyway |
| 00:15.52 | tim_abell | load average: 0.46, 0.99, 1.03 |
| 00:15.56 | tim_abell | and falling |
| 00:16.10 | badcloud | http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/ipk/armv4t/lsof_4.78-r4.4_armv4t.ipk |
| 00:16.16 | badcloud | just in case it happens again |
| 00:16.53 | badcloud | then do lsof|grep cron |
| 00:17.03 | tim_abell | okay, i'll remember that |
| 00:17.04 | tim_abell | ta |
| 00:17.09 | badcloud | np |
| 00:19.57 | tim_abell | ok, installed |
| 00:20.41 | tim_abell | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/192052/ lsof for cron, though i missed the 95% cpu |
| 00:20.49 | tim_abell | opkg install lsof |
| 00:20.54 | tim_abell | did the trick nicely |
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| 00:25.48 | badcloud | hmmm, I'm not saavy enough |
| 00:26.07 | badcloud | but I'm sure you could post this tomorrow noonish and someone could help you out more |
| 00:26.39 | badcloud | I'm off to bed |
| 00:26.44 | badcloud | 'night |
| 00:26.48 | tim_abell | gnight |
| 00:26.50 | tim_abell | thx |
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| 00:46.33 | tim_abell | is the a cpu monitor for the top shelf in shr? |
| 00:47.10 | tim_abell | there ^ |
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| 01:03.32 | tim_abell | argh, what is going on with my calls? |
| 01:04.24 | tim_abell | http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-user/2010-March/004180.html |
| 01:06.42 | tim_abell | it's completely intermittent so impossible to troubleshoot |
| 01:06.58 | tim_abell | except when i actually need the damn phone, then it *always* does it |
| 01:07.03 | tim_abell | gah |
| 01:10.45 | tim_abell | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/192055/ - vmstat 1 |
| 01:10.52 | tim_abell | looks fine |
| 01:10.55 | tim_abell | nrgh |
| 01:11.35 | tim_abell | i'm going to be in the doghouse forever if i can't get this sorted |
| 01:11.47 | tim_abell | anyone there who has any ideas? |
| 01:11.59 | tim_abell | i don't get much time to look at this stuff |
| 01:12.31 | tim_abell | i guess everyone is in bed tonight |
| 01:12.34 | tim_abell | or out on the town |
| 01:12.54 | tim_abell | seeing as it's Saturday |
| 01:13.04 | tim_abell | sigh |
| 01:14.57 | tim_abell | argh |
| 01:15.06 | tim_abell | throws bloody phone out of window |
| 01:17.51 | CVirus | wtf |
| 01:20.07 | CVirus | tim_abell: did you really throw it out of the window ? |
| 01:20.17 | tim_abell | lol, no, just feel like it |
| 01:20.42 | CVirus | LOL |
| 01:21.18 | tim_abell | fuck it |
| 01:21.26 | tim_abell | goes to bed in a *bad* mood |
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| 01:57.40 | DocScrutinizer | 1) audio of GSM calls is NOT related to CPU. So renice of whatever won't help. 2) I wonder wtf crond has to do on SHR, or on FR for that topic. It can not work properly on a system that's supposed to be in suspend most of the time |
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| 05:43.46 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: (nor uboot image) not sure but i can compile one once i get home. What execatly mod do you need? Because if you need no mods, one can simply dump his working nor. |
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| 07:04.11 | PARAG | Hi guys, do you know any any methord to sign the application please ?? |
| 07:04.21 | PARAG | Hi guys, do you know any any methord to sign the symbian application please ?? |
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| 09:45.02 | Zoup | http://build.shr-project.org/ is not reachable, anyone knows any mirror? |
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| 10:05.12 | JesusMcCloud | Zoup, it's down, there is no mirror |
| 10:05.39 | Zoup | JesusMcCloud: any estimation for downtime? |
| 10:05.57 | JesusMcCloud | nope |
| 10:06.03 | JesusMcCloud | i'm just a user |
| 10:06.10 | Zoup | JesusMcCloud: i see, thanks |
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| 12:00.53 | Orias_Korva | ls -l /dev/mtd0 returns crw-rw---- but cat .. > or dd of=/dev/mtd0 fails with readonly filesystem error |
| 12:01.42 | Orias_Korva | it's me again, the guy with blank NOR |
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| 12:25.23 | badcloud | Orias_Korva: I might join your club. I'm awaiting a debug board in the mail |
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| 12:38.42 | Orias_Korva | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:47.36 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: Orias_Korva got the image of nor by now. |
| 12:48.04 | DocScrutinizer | Orias_Korva: you did tha unprotect cmd mentioned in that script? |
| 12:48.33 | Orias_Korva | no, I only did the hw hack |
| 12:49.02 | Orias_Korva | whare can I find the flash_unlock and friends? |
| 12:50.09 | DocScrutinizer | # Write to NOR with the following commands: |
| 12:50.10 | DocScrutinizer | # |
| 12:50.12 | DocScrutinizer | # - on the host, connected via a debugv3 board: |
| 12:50.13 | DocScrutinizer | # norwp rw |
| 12:50.15 | DocScrutinizer | # |
| 12:50.16 | DocScrutinizer | # - on the GTA02: |
| 12:50.18 | DocScrutinizer | # flash_unlock /dev/mtd0 |
| 12:50.19 | DocScrutinizer | # flash_eraseall /dev/mtd0 |
| 12:50.20 | Orias_Korva | I see that |
| 12:50.21 | DocScrutinizer | # cat nor.bin >/dev/mtd0 |
| 12:50.51 | Orias_Korva | but I don't have flash_unlock, flash_eraseall |
| 12:51.06 | DocScrutinizer | I'd guess werner's repo and people drawer should be a good starting point |
| 12:52.11 | DocScrutinizer | skim http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/host/devirginator/ and ..(.(.)) |
| 12:52.47 | Orias_Korva | I found norwp, whis is no use for me |
| 12:52.55 | DocScrutinizer | and people.openmoko.org/werner |
| 12:53.24 | DocScrutinizer | norwp is same as your soldering art |
| 12:56.17 | DocScrutinizer | maybe wpwrak will join us here. Lemme wait and enjoy my morning coffee ;-) |
| 12:57.03 | Orias_Korva | DocScrutinizer: enjoy |
| 12:57.34 | DocScrutinizer | ~seen wpwrak |
| 12:57.35 | apt | wpwrak is currently on #openmoko-cdevel (13h 32m 30s), last said: 'PaulFert`: thanks for making the ar6000 suck a little less :)'. |
| 12:58.06 | Orias_Korva | DocScrutinizer: hmm, I didn't know this, thanks |
| 12:58.18 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, this timestamp isn't related to the "last said" |
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| 13:23.59 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: ok, cool. I wasn't at home so was of little help :) |
| 13:24.51 | DocScrutinizer | seems Orias_Korva found a lot of help (well maybe just enough) in *cdevel |
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| 14:08.49 | tim_abell | is http://build.shr-project.org down or is it just me? |
| 14:12.11 | Paulus | same problem here, can't even ping |
| 14:13.14 | tim_abell | that won't help my upgrade much :-/ |
| 14:19.41 | walkie | well, are the shr and debian only 'alive' distributions now? |
| 14:20.35 | tim_abell | who looks after build.shr-project.org ? |
| 14:21.58 | walkie | i did ask on #openmoko-cdevel they think it down for memory upgrade |
| 14:22.08 | tim_abell | oh |
| 14:22.13 | tim_abell | did they announce it anywhere? |
| 14:22.18 | walkie | but they can be jokikg as always |
| 14:25.33 | tim_abell | i'm losing the will to be open |
| 14:26.54 | walkie | don't die so easyly :) |
| 14:27.43 | walkie | i'm waiting my openmoko will fork somehow ok from bying it more than year ago |
| 14:27.51 | walkie | and still have a hope |
| 14:28.48 | walkie | even i did reflash it 6 times last month because it become unusable |
| 14:29.51 | walkie | and last reflash stopped when build. gone down |
| 14:30.42 | walkie | tim_abell, if you need tar.gz image i think i have last one, but if you want repo, wait with me |
| 14:33.49 | walkie | well it's time to think about making a mirror for build.shr-project.org, i think i can host it |
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| 14:37.36 | tim_abell | i was trying to opkg upgrade |
| 14:37.50 | tim_abell | i've posted what i got from cdevel to shr-user for everyone else |
| 14:38.05 | tim_abell | flaky ram finally croaked, effectively |
| 14:38.18 | tim_abell | hosted by bearstech |
| 14:44.24 | tim_abell | could someone post the the mailing list when the server is back up? |
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| 14:51.13 | walkie | sorry, have no access to mailing list |
| 14:51.53 | tim_abell | i'll ask on cdevel |
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| 16:39.14 | alabd | Good day all , how to download whole one country map whit best quality ?(upper level) |
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| 16:39.58 | SpeedEvil | With what map viewer? |
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| 16:49.19 | alabd | SpeedEvil, good day no difference |
| 16:52.37 | walkie | albald, if you need just image of some zoom level try www.openstreetmap.org, zoom to country, and open export tab |
| 16:53.09 | walkie | there will not be much details in there |
| 16:54.31 | walkie | at least on low zoom levels, and on high zoom levels there limit of how much data can be exported |
| 16:54.41 | walkie | but it is free as an air |
| 16:55.19 | SpeedEvil | You can setup your own tileserver, and have as detailed as you'd like. (though of course limited by the data) |
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| 16:56.53 | alabd | walkie, www.openstreetmap.org here if we select a country will that download the recent level ? or it will download whole country with best quality that shows streets and homes ? |
| 16:57.41 | SpeedEvil | It will download an image of about 4000 pixels square at most |
| 16:57.48 | walkie | usually the image you have on screen is (current zoom level) can be exported without problems |
| 16:58.02 | SpeedEvil | To download a whole country to the highest zoom level would take many, many gigabytes. |
| 16:58.31 | SpeedEvil | Also - to the highest zoom levels would not be good - as 99.99% of those tiles are generated on the fly |
| 16:58.38 | SpeedEvil | which is _expensive_ for the servers |
| 17:00.56 | walkie | alabd, you can use tangogps (GPS icon) on shr just for map, it will automatically download the pieces of map you are looking to - ready to use |
| 17:04.00 | walkie | but if you want to use image of map outside application it is better to read wiki.openstreetmap.org that is not very simple |
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| 17:24.05 | tomcatek | if build.shr-project.org is down, where are the commits done? |
| 17:24.28 | walkie | commits done to freesmartphone.org |
| 17:25.54 | alabd | walkie, don't want use it outside , didn't asked question well ,see humble want to download part of earth maps with best quality (level 15) to use them while don't have internet connection |
| 17:26.01 | walkie | i was thinking fso is dead... and most fo developers moved to shr |
| 17:26.21 | max_posedon | walkie, shr is fso |
| 17:26.47 | max_posedon | e.g. shr use fso |
| 17:26.53 | walkie | alabd, in tangogps click somewhere on map and choose 'map download' |
| 17:27.19 | walkie | there can be selected +1 to +x zoomlevels |
| 17:27.36 | walkie | but beware - whole country is a lot of gygabytes |
| 17:27.40 | tomcatek | alabd: or download .bin from openstreetmaps and use navit with it |
| 17:29.32 | tomcatek | alabd: in this format all europe in reasonable quality is ~730MB |
| 17:30.02 | walkie | tomcatek, is there a navit for freerunner ? |
| 17:30.14 | tomcatek | yes |
| 17:30.16 | alabd | walkie, sure |
| 17:30.26 | tomcatek | I'm using for some time |
| 17:30.31 | alabd | walkie, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Navit |
| 17:32.20 | walkie | thanks guys, i'm playing with freerunner only time to tme, and mising most the news |
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| 17:32.34 | alabd | walkie, choosing 'map download' is possible for current position only yes ? |
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| 17:34.21 | walkie | alabd, yes |
| 17:34.51 | walkie | you chhose which zoomlevel you start and select +x zoomlevels to download |
| 17:35.48 | tomcatek | alabd: http://maps.navit-project.org/download/ |
| 17:35.51 | alabd | see it's required to get other place maps rather than current position |
| 17:36.03 | tomcatek | here You can download navit-prepared map |
| 17:36.05 | alabd | tomcatek, thanks |
| 17:36.46 | tomcatek | with this maps navit will support routes |
| 17:37.43 | Zoup | any idea when build.shr-project.org will be back online? |
| 17:38.21 | walkie | alabd, select zoomlevel you start, move map to other position you needeed, tap somewhere on map, and select 'map download' all you have on screen will be downloaded up to +x zoomlevel |
| 17:39.41 | walkie | tomcatek, tangogps support routing when internet is available via requests to yournavigation.org |
| 17:39.58 | alabd | walkie, how to let someone check our position from internet ? |
| 17:40.15 | tomcatek | walkie: navit support it offline |
| 17:41.10 | tomcatek | alabd: from tangogps You can send sms with Your position or update Your position at application server |
| 17:41.35 | tomcatek | and let Your regostered friends to see Your position |
| 17:42.34 | alabd | tomcatek, sms where si it ? |
| 17:43.33 | tomcatek | i don't have tangogps at my FR :/ |
| 17:43.57 | walkie | well, i think copy and paste and send sms to your friend, or tangogps already have sms portal? |
| 17:44.24 | tomcatek | it have that portal |
| 17:44.42 | tomcatek | unfortunately I can't install tangogps now :/ |
| 17:44.56 | tomcatek | since repository is down |
| 17:44.57 | alabd | walkie, you mean if it is at zoom level 6 and we use +4 zoom levels in map download it will be level 10 ? |
| 17:45.19 | alabd | walkie, can not see sms option |
| 17:45.48 | walkie | alabd, at 6 zoomlevel with +4 will be downloaded 7, 8, 9, 10 zoomlevels |
| 17:45.57 | walkie | of that position |
| 17:46.43 | walkie | tomcatek, well using friens' update via gprs must be cheaper than sms |
| 17:47.13 | tomcatek | walkie: it depends to which country You are traveling :) |
| 17:47.42 | walkie | alabd, i hear for sms option firs time, probably some info can be found on tangogps.org ? |
| 17:47.48 | alabd | walkie, when it is at zoom level 6 it shows some towns , with map download will it download all town 7, 8, 9, 10 zoomlevels ? |
| 17:48.09 | walkie | alabd, yes |
| 17:49.06 | walkie | and a 'empty' forests sands waters tiles between towns |
| 17:49.53 | alabd | tomcatek, is http://maps.navit-project.org/download/ the same ? |
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| 17:50.28 | tomcatek | yes |
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| 17:50.53 | alabd | walkie, how to use those maps for new tangogps ? |
| 17:52.07 | foo__ | Hello! I've some problem with the neo FreeRunner. The display stays black, no matter what I do. How ot figure out how to get it work again? Ho to figure out wether it's a hardware problem? |
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| 17:53.59 | walkie | not shure if my message was delivered so i repeat it |
| 17:54.02 | walkie | alabd, i think the difference with tangogps and navit is in folowwing: navit uses vector data of roads and tango gps uses bitmap picture of that data in the image - that's why it tooks more place, but navit can have some vector info filtered out for example house shapes |
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| 17:57.36 | walkie | so when traveling on long distances navit can give you more info in less megabytes, when you searching a house in big city tangogps is more usable |
| 18:00.42 | alabd | walkie, how to use those maps for new installed tangogps ? and what is opencyclemaps for ? |
| 18:04.02 | walkie | opencyclemaps is for bicycle drivers - shows bicycle routes where available and hill grade (i think) |
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| 18:06.07 | walkie | when you select layer (better simple OSM i think) all pieces of map downloaded to ~\Maps\OSM and stored there for offline use |
| 18:07.21 | walkie | that ones you looked on screen and selected via 'map download' |
| 18:07.43 | walkie | once downloaded they never get downloaded again |
| 18:08.46 | walkie | when you have not much space on / it is better to move ~/Maps to /media/card and symlink /home/root/Maps to it |
| 18:14.18 | alabd | walkie, you mean we can use ~\Maps\OSM for new shr ? |
| 18:15.45 | walkie | in new shr when tangogps started will create ~\Maps and by default will save pieces you viewing in ~\Maps\OSM\... |
| 18:17.09 | walkie | you can start tangogps move map around, close tangogps and when you start it again - the places you was looking to already will be shown without need to re-download |
| 18:17.32 | walkie | but only on that zoom level you was looking |
| 18:17.59 | alabd | yes thanks |
| 18:18.42 | walkie | to add several zoomlevels ether move map on several zoomlevels or use 'map download' to add _x zoomlevels to current pozition |
| 18:18.46 | alabd | didn't find sms option , is it possible to let someone see position online ? |
| 18:19.06 | walkie | there is a 'friens' tab |
| 18:19.41 | walkie | via gprs or other internet selected persons can see you on ther tangogps application |
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| 18:20.47 | walkie | i never see a sms option, may be it is very new option |
| 18:21.11 | walkie | to access tabs click (i) icon |
| 18:21.26 | alabd | yes |
| 18:21.41 | tomcatek | walkie: rather very old one. I used it years ago |
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| 18:23.03 | walkie | tomcatek, i'm not a person who knows everyting about every application i use, but it is firs time i hear about sms |
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| 18:25.38 | walkie | s/but/and/ |
| 18:26.21 | walkie | clever bot :) |
| 18:26.28 | tomcatek | yep :) |
| 18:26.45 | alabd | walkie, in friend tab how to setting friends? |
| 18:28.25 | walkie | well, never used this friends tab in other than fun mode (everybody fun see everybody fun), i think friends can be selected on tangogps site |
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| 18:37.32 | alabd | walkie, what are route option benefits ? |
| 18:38.16 | walkie | well, i think it select fastest route or shortest route |
| 18:38.38 | walkie | or truck, car or smthing like it |
| 18:41.44 | alabd | walkie, how does it find fastest route for example? |
| 18:43.46 | alabd | and what is POI ? |
| 18:44.29 | walkie | Points Of Interest |
| 18:45.49 | walkie | did not find where you see 'benefits' but usually to find route tap on map, ways&routes->get route |
| 18:46.22 | walkie | POI - some places on map you want be shown an identified |
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| 18:55.51 | Zoup | JaMa: any EST on build server downtime? |
| 18:56.32 | Zoup | sicu: ^ |
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| 19:50.33 | samgee | I've put shr-testing (March 17th) on my freerunner. The only thing not working is Contacts: list is empty, so it's not getting any of my SIM contacts. Is there a solution for that? |
| 19:51.08 | tomcatek | samgee: use PISI and copy Your contacts |
| 19:51.36 | tomcatek | from SIM |
| 19:51.56 | tomcatek | since opim is not using SIM anymore |
| 19:53.07 | samgee | I see |
| 19:53.32 | samgee | build.shr-project.org seems down, so I'll check that out later then |
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| 20:17.31 | Zoup | samgee: and no one knows for how long :) |
| 20:18.28 | samgee | ah |
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| 21:51.23 | badcloud | is there a way to have access X via chroot? |
| 21:51.45 | badcloud | e.g. running debian programs via shr |
| 21:52.44 | badcloud | via-->in |
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| 22:00.14 | PaulFertser | badcloud: sure, just copy your magic cookie |
| 22:00.32 | PaulFertser | badcloud: read more about X access control in "man X" |
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