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| 00:13.23 | Psi | does GSM require correct time to reg with network? |
| 00:13.46 | DocScrutinizer51 | no |
| 00:13.47 | Psi | trying to get timezone correct and my gsm has stopped connecting |
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| 00:20.18 | Psi | can you think of anything to do with time that would stop the gsm connecting |
| 00:21.17 | Psi | cos its definitly dead now. shr Phone settings says gsm is off and the on/off slider wont turn on |
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| 00:57.32 | Psi | ok thats very odd. i tried restarting many times, and removing the battery etc. but gsm only started working again after i booted the older OS on the nand and got gsm to connect in that first, then restarted and booted main os back up again |
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| 01:14.48 | DocScrutinizer | random |
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| 01:15.28 | DocScrutinizer | time is completely unrelated to GSM registration (I'd hope so :-P) |
| 01:16.37 | DocScrutinizer | unless some silly conversion routine for log timestamps segfaults on your bogus system time |
| 01:17.13 | DocScrutinizer | whole GSM is pretty much time agnostic |
| 01:22.33 | DocScrutinizer | well, there is _one_ detail that may actually barf chunks: the modem has a RTC to timestamp SMS. This RTC has no backup battery so needs to be set each time the modem is initialized. I seem to remember reports about reading the RTC via AT cmd interface sometimes doesn't behave and returns a mangled time value/format |
| 01:23.19 | DocScrutinizer | mickey|away: could there be segfaults on modem RTC readout, in framework ? |
| 01:24.15 | DocScrutinizer | (not to say I even knew if there's any RTC readout or even init at all) |
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| 10:14.27 | cgray | hi, i'm using debian and have put it in flash. however, when i use the version on flash, i don't get usb networking, but when i use the version on the sd card, i do. any ideas how to get usb networking to work? |
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| 14:45.52 | rafa | hi, I have latest shr-unstalbe, and some sms arrive several times. Does somebody know why? |
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| 14:57.39 | Heinervdm | rafa: set debug level of frameworkd to DEBUG and send us the log |
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| 14:59.11 | rafa | Heinervdm: okey, I will try my best with DEBUG. I was thinking that sms is already something stable |
| 14:59.52 | Heinervdm | rafa: yes, it should work. but bug can appear everywhere |
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| 15:30.02 | DocScrutinizer | also there were some reports about "SIM storage full, can't receive SMS" though user never kept any SMS in SIM. Might be related problem. AIUI inbound SMS are noticed to frameworkd via unsol msg (AT), then if framework times out on handling the ACK for SMS receive, modem stores SMS to SIM instead. Something along that line... Ask mickeyl |
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| 18:20.10 | rafa | DocScrutinizer: okey, good to know about "sim storage full" thing.. let me check if I understand from where that problem is coming.. |
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| 22:37.18 | SpeedEvil | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Qi-Hardware-Ben-NanoNote/ |
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| 22:54.33 | DocScrutinizer | ""Linux.com also reported that Qi was supporting a community effort to complete OpenMoko's aborted redesign of its Freerunner."" muhahaha |
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| 22:55.14 | Wonka | that sounds wrong on so many dimensions... |
| 22:55.17 | SpeedEvil | Personally, the lack of widi in the above would generally be a killer. |
| 22:55.20 | SpeedEvil | wifi |
| 22:55.27 | SpeedEvil | For portable apps anyway. |
| 22:55.31 | DocScrutinizer | ther's neither been any OM "redesign of FR", nor is gta02-core aimed at "completing it" |
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| 22:55.55 | SpeedEvil | I could still see possibly using them for stuff like door entry controllers. |
| 22:56.48 | DocScrutinizer | hmmm possibly |
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| 22:57.39 | DocScrutinizer | actually I considered to use N810 for that. Much more bang for the buck |
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| 22:58.23 | DocScrutinizer | I mean, 320*200... c'mon |
| 22:58.35 | SpeedEvil | n810>>$99 |
| 22:59.06 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
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| 22:59.37 | DocScrutinizer | still I *have* two of them :-P |
| 22:59.45 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 23:00.38 | SpeedEvil | However - $99 is my food budget for the next 6 weeks or so - so I'm abstaining from hardware. |
| 23:01.09 | DocScrutinizer | and for twice the bucks of a ben, you get real RAM, WiFi, a real screen, with touch |
| 23:01.28 | SpeedEvil | And for some things you don't actually need that |
| 23:01.38 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
| 23:01.43 | raster | SpeedEvil: $99 buys u food for 6 weeks? |
| 23:01.52 | SpeedEvil | raster: ATM, yes. |
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| 23:02.08 | DocScrutinizer | amazing, not even I achive that |
| 23:02.25 | SpeedEvil | Careful shopping, with regards to cost and nice stuff I can make with it. |
| 23:02.42 | SpeedEvil | Helped by sort-by-price on supermarket website. |
| 23:02.53 | SpeedEvil | sort-by-price-per-unit-qty |
| 23:03.03 | raster | SpeedEvil: wow.... i'd be amazed to surirve.. what... $15/wk |
| 23:03.11 | raster | $2/day |
| 23:03.14 | DocScrutinizer | well, we don't even have such things here |
| 23:03.30 | raster | gee... i'd have to basically eat maggi 2 minute noodles to survive :( |
| 23:03.43 | DocScrutinizer | still had to live with 4⬠a day |
| 23:04.13 | raster | DocScrutinizer: thats 3x as much as $2/day :) |
| 23:04.19 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
| 23:04.24 | raster | a muach better scenario |
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| 23:04.36 | DocScrutinizer | depends on the supermarket |
| 23:05.08 | SpeedEvil | Naah. Main meal was potatos, cabbage, and roast pork with gravy. |
| 23:05.23 | SpeedEvil | Total 67p or so. |
| 23:05.26 | SpeedEvil | $1 |
| 23:05.44 | SpeedEvil | All three were bought in large quantities, when reduced. |
| 23:05.57 | DocScrutinizer | you'd probably not even get potatoes for that here |
| 23:06.26 | DocScrutinizer | the large qty thing is the problem though |
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| 23:07.09 | SpeedEvil | Well - potatos last 6 months - and meat freezes well. Cabbages last a month, or forever frozen |
| 23:07.27 | DocScrutinizer | no matter what I buy, usually 2/3 of it went to the bin, as I can't eat it all up before it's rotten |
| 23:08.09 | SpeedEvil | Freezer is killer for that. I roasted up 8Kg of meat, made gravy, and then froze in meal sized portions. |
| 23:08.28 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: that's a high art actually |
| 23:08.45 | SpeedEvil | wishes solid state cooling was more sane. |
| 23:09.46 | DocScrutinizer | kicks his old fridge for running >50% of the time |
| 23:10.12 | SpeedEvil | My freezer stat is broken, currently it's running on a 1h/3h timer |
| 23:10.35 | DocScrutinizer | probably the cooling is more expensive than the lil food inside is worth it |
| 23:10.53 | DocScrutinizer | (mine) |
| 23:11.13 | DocScrutinizer | moin raster btw |
| 23:11.20 | SpeedEvil | Garden makes lots of raspberries, which go in pies and stuff. Apples too. |
| 23:11.39 | DocScrutinizer | that's great |
| 23:12.08 | SpeedEvil | wonders who are the 'om people' that some have mentioned were involved in http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Main_Page |
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| 23:12.26 | DocScrutinizer | wolfgang, and steve |
| 23:12.39 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 23:13.00 | DocScrutinizer | actually also mirko |
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