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| 11:20.35 | cosmos | My battery last only few howers...how to resolve that?...on the software side? |
| 11:21.06 | cosmos | *hours |
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| 11:21.37 | jaacoppi | disable all unnecessary services, reduce backlight etc |
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| 11:26.07 | vanous | cosmos: perhaps wifi or gps are on? |
| 11:27.15 | Martix | jaacoppi: what says: cat /sys/devices/platform/sc32440_fiq.0/gta02-hdq.0/hdq/current_now ? |
| 11:27.41 | PaulFertser | cosmos: how many are few? Are you using suspend-to-ram? |
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| 12:31.03 | cosmos | Paul Forester: yes on battery the FR suspends after 40s |
| 12:31.36 | cosmos | few hours are 4 or 5 for me |
| 12:31.50 | cosmos | and after I have to recharge completely |
| 12:32.48 | mickeyl | sounds like your battery is broken :( |
| 12:32.55 | mickeyl | a fully charged CC should last 70 hours without #1024 |
| 12:32.59 | mickeyl | double with |
| 12:33.11 | openmoko-jabber_ | Martix: 5 hours only in suspend? maybe recamping problem? |
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| 15:27.52 | DocScrutinizer | cosmos: could you install bash, then run http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/battery/bq27k-detail, and pastebin the result? |
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| 15:46.44 | pbaxter | hi all |
| 15:49.17 | cosmos | DocScrutinizer: http://pastebin.com/uuGNLRMQ |
| 15:57.08 | DocScrutinizer | cosmos: could you repeat that without USB connected? preferrably after some minutes of suspend |
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| 18:51.26 | DocScrutinizer | cosmos: as for now I can say: your batery seems pretty fresh. echo $(( 6399 * 179 / 1000)) = Nominal Available Capacity of 1145mAh, and it has seen 18 full charge/discharge cycles which is almost like nothing |
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| 19:01.15 | DocScrutinizer | also the maximum current drawn from battery (during the period of reporting, whatever that is) is rather high: 1993 mA. This means more than 7W of power has been dissipated at a certain moment |
| 19:02.03 | SpeedEvil | Did it burst into flames at any point? |
| 19:02.19 | DocScrutinizer | dunno |
| 19:02.21 | SpeedEvil | One spike though may not be a meaningful reading I suppose |
| 19:02.47 | DocScrutinizer | I think the integration window is some 25sec |
| 19:03.05 | DocScrutinizer | at least 4sec |
| 19:03.14 | SpeedEvil | odd. |
| 19:03.19 | DocScrutinizer | can't recall off top of my head |
| 19:04.04 | DocScrutinizer | quite odd, yes |
| 19:04.34 | SpeedEvil | bit error? |
| 19:04.48 | DocScrutinizer | where? |
| 19:05.07 | DocScrutinizer | bitflip you think? |
| 19:05.16 | SpeedEvil | something like that, yes. |
| 19:05.21 | cosmos | DocScrutinizer: http://pastebin.com/acUgu19S |
| 19:05.22 | DocScrutinizer | hmm |
| 19:05.33 | SpeedEvil | say an extra 1024mA |
| 19:05.43 | SpeedEvil | (or whatever the appropriate bit would be) |
| 19:07.37 | DocScrutinizer | AI = 162 mA, seems perfectly sane |
| 19:08.00 | DocScrutinizer | NAC dropped though, not dramatically but still |
| 19:09.04 | DocScrutinizer | aah, nm. NAC is current charge, not 100% charge - probably |
| 19:11.31 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: 2A is actually possible, if you take into account a hostmode 2.5W |
| 19:11.50 | DocScrutinizer | plus GSM at full power |
| 19:12.30 | DocScrutinizer | plus a number of other power hogs |
| 19:13.18 | SpeedEvil | yeah. the battery will pretty much melt unless it's fresh though. |
| 19:13.22 | DocScrutinizer | standby current of 17mA seems perfectly sane |
| 19:14.38 | cosmos | DocScrutinizer: so what's wrong with my 5 hours battery on the FR? |
| 19:14.52 | DocScrutinizer | cosmos: your battery should provide some 5h of active usage at least. Suspend should easily reach 50h, if there's nothing completely odd with suspend state management |
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| 19:15.55 | DocScrutinizer | suspects cosmos' device never really enters suspend, just dims screen |
| 19:16.29 | cosmos | DocScrutinizer: I'm on QtMoko, should I modify a file for that or just let the suspend after 40s on battery mode? |
| 19:16.47 | DocScrutinizer | sorry, no idea about QtMoko |
| 19:19.35 | cosmos | radekp: does 'suspend "on" (1 min for example)' really works on battery mode? |
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| 19:27.30 | radekp | cosmos: hi, use "Power management" in settings to setup things as you need |
| 19:27.48 | radekp | cosmos: by default it just dims screen IIRC |
| 19:27.57 | DocScrutinizer | LOL |
| 19:28.05 | DocScrutinizer | that'll explain a lot |
| 19:28.21 | DocScrutinizer | that'll[2010-03-06 20:15:55] * DocScrutinizer suspects cosmos' device never really enters suspend, just dims screen explain a lot |
| 19:28.30 | DocScrutinizer | arrg |
| 19:28.33 | DocScrutinizer | [2010-03-06 20:15:55] * DocScrutinizer suspects cosmos' device never really enters suspend, just dims screen |
| 19:28.50 | radekp | i dont know why is it default setup - probably from days when suspend was not working :) |
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| 19:34.36 | radekp | cosmos: you can also suspend the phone with short POWER press |
| 19:34.59 | radekp | will change the default setup to something sane... |
| 19:35.55 | cosmos | ok I'll try like that :) |
| 19:43.44 | radekp | i have suspend to 5minutes and suspending it manually with POWER |
| 19:46.04 | cosmos | radekp: what about the v18, it is a testing version? |
| 19:46.35 | radekp | cosmos: yes, but i am using it daily |
| 19:47.42 | cosmos | is there a sw resolution of the recamping bug in this version? |
| 19:50.07 | DocScrutinizer | cosmos: from what I see in bq27k-detail, you shouldn't have any recamping issues. 17mA suspend current looks like the modem operates at ATLEEP=2 already |
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| 19:50.35 | DocScrutinizer | AT%SLEPP=2 maybe |
| 19:50.49 | DocScrutinizer | something like that :-P |
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| 19:52.05 | radekp | cosmos: you need harwdare fix and then you can enable deep sleep in /opt/qtmoko/etc/Trolltech/defaut/Modem.conf |
| 19:52.29 | radekp | i just shoot the path from head - it can be a bit different |
| 19:55.39 | DocScrutinizer | which would increase your standby time from ~50h to ~100h (*/ 1.3) |
| 19:56.06 | DocScrutinizer | err +/-30% |
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| 20:13.48 | jaacoppi | Trolltech.. |
| 20:15.02 | jaacoppi | Tech Trolls.. |
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| 22:23.53 | cosmos | thre is no gps choip in the FR isn't it? only a-gps? |
| 22:24.02 | cosmos | *chip |
| 22:27.03 | mjr | you're confused; it can work without assistance data, just that with assist you can get an initial fix quicker |
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| 22:28.24 | cosmos | mjr: yes I'm confused because I havn't an unlimited internet access account |
| 22:28.59 | cosmos | mjr: how to disable or to avoid the use of a-gps? |
| 22:29.14 | cosmos | when using the gps |
| 22:29.16 | cosmos | ? |
| 22:29.55 | mjr | it's probably not used by default anyway |
| 22:31.11 | mjr | (and I say "probably" mostly because there's different distros that might theoretically set it up automatically, but I don't know that any do) |
| 22:32.04 | mjr | and even then, the amounts of data would be very low |
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