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| 08:45.06 | naquan | hi everyone, I installed shr-testing 20100125 on my SD card and shr-today create a double lock: I must slide the button twice to unlock my phone. I tried reinstalling shr-today but it's still there, please help. |
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| 08:51.50 | JaMa | naquan: remove shr-today |
| 08:52.29 | JaMa | naquan: afaik that lock screen is provided by phoneuid, so if you installed shr-today too, then you have 2 lock screens. |
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| 08:56.30 | naquan | JaMa: thank you |
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| 09:18.00 | naquan | JaMa: I removed Xsession.d/80phoneui and install shr-today, it works fine. The default phoneui lock screen has error on GSM network status. |
| 09:19.06 | JaMa | naquan: really strange solution indeed.. you did it exactly the oposite way I suggested.. |
| 09:21.11 | PaulFertser | LOL |
| 09:21.24 | naquan | JaMa: :) |
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| 09:25.01 | DocScrutinizer | moin paul |
| 09:27.24 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: morning Joerg :) |
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| 10:02.01 | alabd | hello , how to know if fr is paired with another device or not ? |
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| 10:45.49 | Psi | does gta02 have the same bug as gta01 where if you suspend the phone while on charge it eventually runs totally flat |
| 10:46.51 | Psi | in shr, i should say |
| 10:47.08 | PaulFertser | Psi: no |
| 10:47.17 | Psi | ok |
| 10:47.29 | PaulFertser | Psi: do you have an idea how that might happen? |
| 10:48.07 | Psi | it seems to last longer than normal, so i think it is charging, just not enough to keep the bat topped up |
| 10:48.11 | PaulFertser | Psi: i see this scenario: you suspend the phone, it charges the battery until full, then stops charging, the battery starts discharging slowly but steadily until flat. But it should take a lot of time since only gsm is powered directly by the bettery. |
| 10:49.01 | Psi | my phone bat was at around 60% (dont know exactly, just from what the icon looked like) after around 24h suspended on charge |
| 10:49.13 | Psi | it was fully charged at the start |
| 10:49.49 | Psi | phone would never last 24hours suspended if it wasnt on charge |
| 10:49.58 | Psi | would probably last 12 or so |
| 10:50.16 | Psi | although, ive not done a test to check that for a while |
| 10:50.58 | Psi | does the phone need to wake up to turn charge back on? or should it happen automatically |
| 10:51.24 | Psi | it may have something to do with what i said a few months back, that gta01 never seems to stop charging, charge icon is always on |
| 10:51.39 | Psi | i remember you thought that was wrong, and it should dissapear once the bat was full |
| 10:52.58 | PaulFertser | Psi: hm |
| 10:53.34 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: do you have an idea? I thought 500mA is pretty much enough to run gta01 from usb. What's weird here is that it flats the battery even suspended... |
| 10:54.45 | DocScrutinizer | sounds weird |
| 10:54.59 | DocScrutinizer | lemme scan backscroll |
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| 10:58.10 | valos | alabd: paired with another device ? do you sppeak about bluetooth devices ? |
| 10:58.12 | DocScrutinizer | I think it's a) not really suspended and hogs power, or b) PMU is configured incorrectly |
| 10:58.46 | Psi | ok |
| 10:58.48 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: in my testing suspended gta01 really charged the battery. |
| 10:58.56 | DocScrutinizer | Psi: usually PMU chip should restart charge when battery is some 70% down |
| 10:59.07 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: not the case for pcf50606 i'm afraid. |
| 10:59.07 | Psi | its possible i didnt wait long enough |
| 10:59.21 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: ouch!! |
| 10:59.38 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: yeah, i think i tried hard to find the feature but looks like it's not there. |
| 10:59.40 | Psi | so phone needs to wake up every so often to check? |
| 11:00.49 | Psi | im pondering getting a n900 |
| 11:01.03 | Psi | anyone else in here got one? |
| 11:01.06 | PaulFertser | Basically, yes. But in RL you'll rarely leave the phone for so long plugged in continuesly. It should be 120 hours straight to drain the battery with only GSM. |
| 11:01.20 | Psi | true |
| 11:02.02 | DocScrutinizer | yep, your figure of only 12h in suspend doesn't sound correct |
| 11:02.18 | Psi | ok, its been a while since i did that test, ill do another one |
| 11:04.19 | alabd | valos: yeah |
| 11:05.08 | valos | alabd: if you use SHR-unstable, you can use mdbus2 command line utility |
| 11:05.24 | alabd | valos: testing |
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| 11:10.26 | valos | alabd_: under shr-testing, there is mickeydbus package |
| 11:10.58 | Psi | is there anywhere in proc i can pickup if there is a call in progress? |
| 11:11.09 | Psi | or /sys or anywhere really |
| 11:12.31 | valos | alabd_: opkg install mickeydbus |
| 11:12.36 | valos | alabd_: mdbus -s org.bluez /org/bluez/1536/hci0 org.bluez.Adapter.ListDevices |
| 11:16.18 | alabd_ | valos: wait |
| 11:16.33 | valos | alabd_: I wait |
| 11:20.51 | alabd_ | valos: http://pastebin.com/7NtL2WXN |
| 11:21.56 | valos | alabd_: ok, try just : mdbus -s org.bluez |
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| 11:24.51 | alabd_ | valos: http://pastebin.com/R2sq5hXy |
| 11:25.22 | valos | alabd_: mdbus -s org.bluez /org/bluez/1478/hci0 org.bluez.Adapter.ListDevices |
| 11:26.08 | valos | alabd_: mdbus -s org.bluez /org/bluez/1478/hci0/dev_00_1F_E1_C0_FE_12 org.bluez.Device.GetProperties |
| 11:27.21 | alabd_ | valos: what is that command for ? |
| 11:27.49 | valos | alabd_: the last one? |
| 11:28.03 | valos | alabd_: to get device properties ? |
| 11:28.23 | alabd_ | how to know if fr is paired with laptop ? |
| 11:29.00 | alabd_ | valos: Paired': True, |
| 11:29.00 | alabd_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:29.22 | valos | alabd_: in device properties, you will see the laptop name in field name |
| 11:29.57 | alabd_ | yes |
| 11:30.02 | alabd_ | how to make it trusted |
| 11:30.10 | valos | alabd_: and next look at paired and trusted |
| 11:30.39 | valos | alabd_: you can use simple-agent or emtooth |
| 11:31.14 | valos | alabd_: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Pairing_2 |
| 11:31.18 | alabd_ | emtooth can not make it trusted choice is not accessable |
| 11:31.21 | PaulFertser | I' not |
| 11:31.27 | PaulFertser | I'm not sure it must be trusted to work. |
| 11:31.58 | valos | alabd_: http://code.google.com/p/emtooth/ but I don't know if it works under shr-testing |
| 11:32.09 | alabd_ | am afraid at all what should be done except pairig |
| 11:32.21 | alabd_ | emtooth worked but |
| 11:32.35 | alabd_ | can not make it trusted choice is not accessable |
| 11:34.02 | alabd_ | maybe reading wiki should make sense |
| 11:36.02 | alabd_ | is this step required for shr-testing ? |
| 11:36.12 | alabd_ | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#State_file |
| 11:37.26 | alabd_ | PaulFertser: valos it is trusted now with emtooth |
| 11:37.47 | PaulFertser | alabd_: no, you've already has the right statfile. |
| 11:37.57 | alabd_ | ok thanks |
| 11:38.45 | alabd_ | how about Rules file PaulFertser |
| 11:39.02 | PaulFertser | alabd_: you need to alter that according to the wiki. |
| 11:39.35 | alabd_ | ok |
| 11:42.55 | pabs3 | is there a way to power off the GSM chip in the FSO configuration file? I don't have a SIM card at the moment so I want it off at all times |
| 11:48.38 | PaulFertser | pabs3: just do not start phoneui or anything that requests GSM. |
| 11:52.12 | pabs3 | looks like I should also disable /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80phoneuid |
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| 11:56.50 | PaulFertser | pabs3: yes |
| 11:56.54 | PaulFertser | pabs3: that's what i meant :) |
| 11:57.01 | pabs3 | killing phoneuid and its wrapper doesn't seem to have helped, turning off GSM in shr-settings and then suspending, shr-settings says GSM is still on after resume |
| 11:58.00 | alabd_ | PaulFertser: after altering according wiki for rules file this occurred http://pastebin.com/apnqis3Q |
| 11:59.01 | PaulFertser | alabd_: you'd better restart after doing all the changes. |
| 11:59.17 | alabd_ | PaulFertser: yes restated |
| 12:02.12 | naught101_ | $ /usr/bin/tzselect |
| 12:02.14 | naught101_ | -sh: /usr/bin/tzselect: not found |
| 12:02.15 | naught101_ | wtf? |
| 12:02.25 | naught101_ | it's there |
| 12:04.36 | naught101_ | ah, because it's got a bash shebang? |
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| 12:04.41 | naught101_ | instead of sh? |
| 12:05.04 | alabd_ | PaulFertser: but it was ok before editing |
| 12:05.37 | naught101_ | yep... |
| 12:07.23 | PaulFertser | alabd_: it's hard to tell why's that... |
| 12:08.27 | alabd_ | PaulFertser: is it ok ? http://pastebin.com/7f5m2wdQ |
| 12:09.23 | PaulFertser | alabd_: looks like |
| 12:13.24 | alabd_ | PaulFertser: but it seems humble done it wrong would you give your /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml |
| 12:13.42 | PaulFertser | alabd_: have you actually tried calling? |
| 12:14.08 | alabd_ | PaulFertser: calling |
| 12:14.38 | PaulFertser | alabd_: is BT resource enabled/requested? |
| 12:15.30 | alabd_ | PaulFertser: humble say maybe /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml edited wrongly |
| 12:24.12 | alabd_ | /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml is required where to get it ? |
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| 13:08.57 | alabd_ | has anyone used PC as BT headset ? |
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| 13:15.23 | alabd_ | PaulFertser: after doing mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage \ |
| 13:15.23 | alabd_ | org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy Bluetooth enabled |
| 13:15.48 | alabd_ | and also backing up rules file to default one |
| 13:15.54 | alabd_ | the same error |
| 13:16.33 | alabd_ | http://pastebin.com/apnqis3Q |
| 13:16.51 | alabd_ | PaulFertser: of course with altering wiki also |
| 13:17.05 | PaulFertser | alabd_: you're doing something wrong. I'm not sure how and what but you're altering rules when in fact you have some problems with bluetooth configuration and the like... |
| 13:17.12 | PaulFertser | alabd_: i've no idea how to help. |
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| 13:18.04 | alabd_ | am doing the same as here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Rules_file PaulFertser |
| 13:18.11 | alabd_ | and reboot |
| 13:18.48 | PaulFertser | alabd_: i thought all the recent shr versions already come with proper rules file. |
| 13:19.32 | alabd_ | don't they come ? |
| 13:19.47 | alabd_ | PaulFertser: defaul was ok PaulFertser |
| 13:20.08 | PaulFertser | alabd_: so? Have you actually modified the config file to set address of your "headset" like described on the wiki? |
| 13:20.10 | alabd_ | after editing as wiki said there is problem |
| 13:21.37 | alabd_ | PaulFertser: in wiki is written You should replace the entire section from Call -> Audio Scenario Handling (Which is shown) to (but not including) while: PowerStatus() with the following: |
| 13:22.03 | alabd_ | what does " (but not including) " mean ? |
| 13:23.13 | DocScrutinizer | alabd_: please don't crosspost to several channels in parallel. Chances are people ignore you, rather than getting better, more, quiqer answers |
| 13:23.38 | alabd_ | docscrutinizer are you sure ? |
| 13:25.47 | alabd_ | PaulFertser: so humble changed http://tinyurl.com/yjf256d to http://pastebin.com/0mnNC8Ta is that done truly |
| 13:26.26 | PaulFertser | alabd_: i've already told you, that most probably the rules file is already ok, no need to change anything. |
| 13:26.39 | PaulFertser | alabd_: please read the wiki section about using headsets in its full, carefully. |
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| 13:28.32 | alabd_ | am going a head with wiki , wiki has said edit rules file but you say no why ? |
| 13:35.08 | PaulFertser | alabd_: "If you're using SHR unstable, you already has a correct state file and rules.yaml, so you can skip to the pairing section." !!! |
| 13:35.21 | PaulFertser | alabd_: it was written half a year ago! |
| 13:36.36 | alabd_ | PaulFertser: so humble copied http://tinyurl.com/yjf256d we should see result |
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| 13:42.37 | alabd_ | PaulFertser: even with http://tinyurl.com/yjf256d not worked ; the one from git |
| 13:42.42 | alabd_ | gives the same error |
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| 13:45.33 | alabd_ | (Method "GetProperties" with signature "" on interface "org.bluez.Device" doesn't exist |
| 13:45.33 | alabd_ | ) |
| 13:46.51 | BlackBishop | you broke it ! |
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| 13:57.08 | alabd_ | mrmoku: do you know where to get /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml of shr-testing ? |
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| 16:35.31 | PBeck | hi |
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| 17:04.07 | alabd | good day all , where to get /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml of shr-testing ? |
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| 17:14.41 | DocScrutinizer | alabd: please note PaulFertser talked about rules-yaml of UNSTABLE |
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| 17:16.19 | DocScrutinizer | btw you seem to ask this question several times today, both channels. And you got a couple of pointers |
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| 17:20.00 | alabd | docscrutinizer yes noted , but default file on shr-testing is removed and humble need one |
| 17:22.16 | DocScrutinizer | alabd: so what's the point in getting a testing yaml rules and then edit them, while unstable yaml rules are ok without editing, like PaulFertser said? |
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| 17:23.12 | alabd | docscrutinizer of course the point is after changing rules file and using new one there is a problem |
| 17:23.38 | alabd | http://pastebin.com/apnqis3Q |
| 17:23.48 | DocScrutinizer | well, maybe your problem isn't with rules at all then? |
| 17:24.04 | alabd | it occurred after replacing it |
| 17:24.26 | DocScrutinizer | I seem to remember you said it occured after editing it |
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| 17:28.23 | DocScrutinizer | anyway it seems build.shr-project and git.shr-project are down. So I can't help ATM |
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| 19:21.19 | radekp | any ideas about the bluetooth hands free? I have it connected and i think the connection is ok. I can use the button on headset to start/stop call and the blue light on headset indicates that something is happening. But i have no sound.. |
| 19:22.16 | radekp | i also tried activate the bluetooth.state from command line |
| 19:22.29 | radekp | is there something else what has to be done? |
| 19:22.49 | radekp | i also tried this program http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/bluetooth-pcm/bluetooth_pcm.c |
| 19:23.31 | PaulFertser | radekp: yes |
| 19:23.48 | PaulFertser | radekp: i'm a bit shy to ask that but have you actually read the relevant page on the wiki? |
| 19:24.15 | radekp | yes, but it seems FSO related |
| 19:24.28 | PaulFertser | radekp: unfortunately, just loading the state file is not enough, you also need to tweek a particular knob in a particular way (known bug). And also yes, you need to use something like the program you mention. |
| 19:24.31 | radekp | and the links to http://handheldshell.com/ do not work anymore :( |
| 19:26.03 | PaulFertser | radekp: that particular wiki page has some fso-specific info, yes. But also it mentions the "magic knob". |
| 19:27.26 | radekp | hmm i think i will try it on SHR first |
| 19:28.38 | radekp | PaulFertser: can you point me out to that "magic knob", please :) |
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| 19:33.38 | PaulFertser | amixer sset "Capture Left Mixer" "Analogue Mix Right" |
| 19:33.38 | PaulFertser | amixer sset "Capture Left Mixer" "Analogue Mix Left" |
| 19:33.40 | PaulFertser | radekp: ^ |
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| 19:37.04 | radekp | PaulFertser: thanks, i'll try on fso now |
| 19:37.37 | PaulFertser | radekp: yes, to make sure your headset works in principle |
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| 20:17.37 | UndrWater | is there a cache created by opkg? I had put the navit feed in my opkg, done the update, installed navit...then realized that shr's navit works differently...removed the navit conf, updated again, but opkg is still trying to find the navit from the navit feed... |
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| 22:01.09 | radekp | any idea how to add more package feeds to SHR? |
| 22:04.03 | radekp | PaulFertser: well i havent figured A2DP in SHR, i wonder how anyone can make it working, i think i am giving up :( |
| 22:05.44 | PaulFertser | radekp: what? |
| 22:05.56 | PaulFertser | radekp: a2dp in shr is exactly the same as on any GNU/Linux distro, |
| 22:06.03 | PaulFertser | radekp: absolutely no difference |
| 22:06.20 | PaulFertser | radekp: just pair and add bluetooth device to alsa config. |
| 22:06.33 | radekp | i did it |
| 22:06.44 | PaulFertser | radekp: and what was the result when you tried mplayer? |
| 22:06.44 | radekp | but mplayer says: Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_bluetooth.so |
| 22:07.09 | PaulFertser | radekp: shr guys will tell you the package that should contain that. |
| 22:07.28 | PaulFertser | JaMa: ping |
| 22:09.26 | radekp | i found this ticket http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1674 |
| 22:10.03 | radekp | it should be in bluez-utils-alsa |
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| 22:19.25 | radekp | oki, seems i have figured it out |
| 22:19.26 | radekp | opkg install http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libasound-module-bluez_4.35-r1.1_armv4t.ipk |
| 22:19.45 | radekp | but it took me 2 hours... |
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| 22:22.16 | PaulFertser | radekp: libasound-module-bluez |
| 22:22.43 | PaulFertser | radekp: hm, i thought this particular package is in shr distro already, you're discouraged to use angstrom repo. |
| 22:23.01 | PaulFertser | radekp: btw, i've found that by simply looking at http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/bluez/bluez4.inc |
| 22:23.07 | PaulFertser | (found package name) |
| 22:23.23 | radekp | is too used to debian... |
| 22:24.11 | PaulFertser | radekp: hm, wiki has the info in fact: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/A2DP#1.1_Check_installed_packages_.28Bluez4.29 |
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| 22:25.15 | radekp | hmm i should read more carefully |
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| 23:15.08 | radekp | PaulFertser: now it seems that A2DP is working, but i get no sound again |
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| 23:15.22 | radekp | but mplayer seems to be using bluetooth device |
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