| 00:05.31 | *** join/#openmoko alfatangoxt (~michele@host221-203-dynamic.247-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 00:10.59 | *** join/#openmoko methril (~methril@189.27.131.120.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 00:14.51 | *** join/#openmoko playya_ (~playya@unaffiliated/playya) |
| 00:18.00 | *** join/#openmoko retracile (~eli@76-204-213-211.lightspeed.allntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:25.26 | *** join/#openmoko Kero (~kero@d74199.upc-d.chello.nl) |
| 01:22.53 | *** join/#openmoko apt (ibot@rikers.org) |
| 01:22.53 | *** topic/#openmoko is Users of Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware | WikiReader users, please join #openmoko-wikireader | Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | German folks might consider to join #openmoko-de | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org + http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | Make sure to check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 |
| 02:05.32 | *** join/#openmoko Defiant (erik@e179196015.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 02:06.17 | *** join/#openmoko methril (~methril@189.27.131.76.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 02:12.47 | *** join/#openmoko naquan (~naquan@118.69.36.58) |
| 02:15.28 | *** join/#openmoko Psi (~ben@ip-58-28-158-238.static-xdsl.xnet.co.nz) |
| 02:16.44 | *** join/#openmoko fredrin (~fredrik|f@cm-84.208.111.224.getinternet.no) |
| 02:42.18 | *** join/#openmoko file (~file@asterisk/developer-and-muffin-lover/file) |
| 02:56.10 | *** join/#openmoko methril (~methril@189.27.130.110.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 03:09.06 | *** join/#openmoko Sargun (~Sargun@atarack/Staff/Sargun) |
| 03:32.05 | *** join/#openmoko pcfe (~pcfe@a83-245-165-231.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 03:32.05 | *** join/#openmoko pcfe (~pcfe@redhat/pcfe) |
| 04:05.25 | *** join/#openmoko juan_arandaalvar (~jaranda@201.171.239.203) |
| 04:27.19 | *** join/#openmoko batti112 (~batti@dslb-092-073-175-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 04:27.21 | *** join/#openmoko jd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 04:27.21 | *** join/#openmoko jd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) |
| 04:31.22 | *** join/#openmoko retracile (~eli@76-204-213-211.lightspeed.allntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:50.05 | *** join/#openmoko eolson (~eolson@c-24-13-244-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 05:17.16 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@host133-16.student.udel.edu) |
| 05:21.00 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@host133-16.student.udel.edu) |
| 05:32.35 | *** join/#openmoko DocScrutinizer (~jr@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 05:32.41 | *** join/#openmoko Docscrutemp (~Joerg_rw@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 05:50.07 | *** join/#openmoko zZaPPaSs (~zappas@dslb-084-056-152-088.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 05:58.40 | *** join/#openmoko zeroedout (zeroedout@xx114200220.cipherkey.com) |
| 06:05.39 | *** join/#openmoko radekp (~radek@88.146.48.30) |
| 06:07.24 | *** join/#openmoko droid001 (~g1@p4FDCACFC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 06:14.10 | *** join/#openmoko Gabrys (~Gabrys@188.13.28.78.cable.dyn.petrus.com.pl) |
| 06:33.26 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@host133-16.student.udel.edu) |
| 06:53.23 | *** join/#openmoko BillK (~BillK@203-166-255-210.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 06:59.35 | *** join/#openmoko kermit (~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) |
| 07:02.41 | *** join/#openmoko naught101 (~abcdef@c122-106-205-165.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 07:03.01 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@host133-16.student.udel.edu) |
| 07:09.07 | *** join/#openmoko soman (~somnath@stargate.starnet.fi) |
| 07:19.25 | *** join/#openmoko azaghal (~azaghal@109.207.40.38) |
| 07:21.22 | *** join/#openmoko Kame2 (~manuel@port-92-196-7-195.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 07:21.40 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@host133-16.student.udel.edu) |
| 07:26.28 | *** join/#openmoko jl_gene (~53f78848@gateway/web/freenode/x-pilgrhndxzeniuvm) |
| 07:40.36 | *** join/#openmoko zedstar (~john@fsf/member/zedstar) |
| 07:43.54 | *** join/#openmoko Heinervdm (~thomas@pD9E179CC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:51.43 | *** join/#openmoko drscream (~drscream@gw.it.tt.avira.com) |
| 08:04.13 | *** join/#openmoko thannoy (~thannoy@62.160.20.144) |
| 08:10.39 | *** join/#openmoko bentob0x (~laurent@ip-213-49-64-35.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 08:11.15 | *** join/#openmoko octavsly (~octavsly@static.ip-80-255-245-177.signet.nl) |
| 08:22.16 | *** join/#openmoko jserv-- (~jserv@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw) |
| 08:23.30 | *** join/#openmoko badcloud (~raanan@ti400720a342-0297.bb.online.no) |
| 08:25.37 | *** join/#openmoko manitu (~werner@p578b0cfb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:33.28 | *** join/#openmoko Q-Master (~qmaster@93.81.231.231) |
| 08:49.36 | *** join/#openmoko CVirus (~Satan@41.130.214.237) |
| 08:52.45 | *** join/#openmoko octavsly (~octavsly@static.ip-80-255-245-177.signet.nl) |
| 08:53.49 | *** join/#openmoko fradeve (~fradeve@host121-9-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:59.01 | *** part/#openmoko fradeve (~fradeve@host121-9-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 09:04.07 | *** join/#openmoko tim_abell (~tim_abell@78-86-198-4.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 09:05.05 | *** part/#openmoko tim_abell (~tim_abell@78-86-198-4.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 09:06.13 | *** join/#openmoko everslick (~clemens@212-183-114-239.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 09:07.26 | *** join/#openmoko thorben (~t@omhp-uva-29-145.wireless.uva.nl) |
| 09:08.16 | *** join/#openmoko dns53 (~dns@ppp246-215.static.internode.on.net) |
| 09:09.02 | *** join/#openmoko raster (~raster@enlightenment/developer/raster) |
| 09:15.16 | *** join/#openmoko valos (~valos@78.233.104.132) |
| 09:23.51 | *** join/#openmoko Free_maN (~Free_maN@217.174.199.201) |
| 09:23.57 | *** join/#openmoko Free_maN (~Free_maN@unaffiliated/freeman) |
| 09:50.46 | *** join/#openmoko HellDragon_ (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 09:50.47 | *** join/#openmoko HellDragon_ (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) |
| 09:54.56 | *** join/#openmoko nullix (~philippe@217.108.116.29) |
| 10:03.07 | *** join/#openmoko naquan (~naquan@118.69.36.58) |
| 10:07.59 | *** join/#openmoko ericthefish (~ericthefi@sit/hacker/ericthefish) |
| 10:11.55 | *** join/#openmoko eolson (~eolson@c-24-13-244-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 10:13.06 | *** join/#openmoko vanous123 (~vanous@ip-85-93-173-178.wscnet.cz) |
| 10:28.57 | *** join/#openmoko AVee (~AVee@tunnel3481.ipv6.xs4all.nl) |
| 10:29.05 | *** part/#openmoko AVee (~AVee@tunnel3481.ipv6.xs4all.nl) |
| 10:30.56 | *** join/#openmoko swap38 (~quassel@mey38-1-82-225-49-212.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:30.57 | *** join/#openmoko vanous123 (~vanous@robe.ludik.cz) |
| 10:31.15 | *** join/#openmoko Gabrys (~Gabrys@188.13.28.78.cable.dyn.petrus.com.pl) |
| 10:36.56 | *** join/#openmoko jcc1 (~jcchao@114-36-171-75.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 10:59.39 | *** join/#openmoko vanous123 (~vanous@robe.ludik.cz) |
| 11:09.19 | *** join/#openmoko SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 11:32.28 | *** join/#openmoko pbaxter (~pbaxter@host111-152-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 11:33.08 | pbaxter | hi all |
| 11:33.35 | *** join/#openmoko vanous123 (~vanous@ip-85-93-173-178.wscnet.cz) |
| 11:41.10 | *** join/#openmoko eolson (~eolson@c-24-13-244-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 11:42.40 | *** join/#openmoko badcloud (~raanan@ti400720a342-0297.bb.online.no) |
| 11:42.43 | *** join/#openmoko fradeve (~fradeve@host121-9-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 11:43.07 | *** part/#openmoko fradeve (~fradeve@host121-9-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 11:45.20 | *** join/#openmoko thorben (~t@omhp-uva-29-145.wireless.uva.nl) |
| 11:55.36 | *** join/#openmoko octavsly (~octavsly@static.ip-80-255-245-177.signet.nl) |
| 12:08.58 | *** join/#openmoko fradeve (~fradeve@host121-9-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:15.13 | *** part/#openmoko fradeve (~fradeve@host121-9-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:22.56 | Weiss | while I understand the point of that "smartphone security" report, I don't quite understand how it qualifies as "research" to demonstrate that you can run bad programs on a smartphone |
| 12:24.09 | JaMa | agree |
| 12:25.27 | JaMa | the same point would be that with enough time every computer can spy on it's users, but only change that desktops usualy don't have embedded gps to inform spying agent about position.. but that can be secretly plugged too :) |
| 12:25.50 | Weiss | hmm yeah |
| 12:26.07 | JaMa | not much science about that |
| 12:26.19 | Weiss | some of this type of research is interesting because it describes interesting new types of vulnerability or so on, but I don't see what this tells us that we didn't already know |
| 12:26.49 | Weiss | (maybe I'm just jealous because of the amount of work I have to do in my own science to do something new) |
| 12:28.25 | JaMa | "Also, features such as Bluetooth receivers and text messaging make it easier to deliver rootkits to phones." wrt "E-mails, l-users running every received exe named hot-pics.img.exe and all types of worms, makes it imho much more easier on desktop than on phones. |
| 12:28.51 | JaMa | And I have much more personal information stored on computer than phone |
| 12:29.35 | *** join/#openmoko ZaPPaS (~moritz@weinberg.pi5.physik.uni-stuttgart.de) |
| 12:31.04 | JaMa | whole story is returning me "UnicodeEncodeError", but from that www.technewsdaily.com article I don't see how they deliver their rootkits.. |
| 12:31.46 | JaMa | if they install it over usbnet having root account and phone physicaly.. then it's really nothing new |
| 12:32.40 | Weiss | that's what they say.. see my quote on OM-Community |
| 12:33.54 | Weiss | there are no interesting vulnerabilities, classes of attack, trojan delivery, or anything like that |
| 12:38.35 | SpeedEvil | slightly more interesting is the flash vulnerability |
| 12:38.48 | SpeedEvil | most phones you can flash without any passwords |
| 12:39.40 | Weiss | also, +1 for Al Johnson's post just now, thinking sensibly about "root=bad" |
| 12:47.39 | *** join/#openmoko radekp (~radek@88.146.48.30) |
| 12:47.40 | *** join/#openmoko ruoso (~ruoso@187.79.17.88) |
| 12:54.08 | *** join/#openmoko mani|work (~werner@p578b0cfb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:10.36 | *** join/#openmoko drscream (~drscream@cayococo-air.doc.fruky.net) |
| 13:13.01 | *** join/#openmoko fredrin (~fredrik|f@cm-84.208.111.224.getinternet.no) |
| 13:13.43 | *** join/#openmoko CVirus (~Satan@41.130.214.237) |
| 13:35.23 | *** join/#openmoko ruoso (~ruoso@187.79.94.4) |
| 13:36.16 | *** join/#openmoko octavsly (~octavsly@static.ip-80-255-245-177.signet.nl) |
| 13:37.06 | *** join/#openmoko fradeve (~fradeve@host121-9-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:43.15 | *** part/#openmoko fradeve (~fradeve@host121-9-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:59.47 | *** join/#openmoko Ryback_ (~ulisses@enlightenment/developer/ryback) |
| 14:08.58 | *** join/#openmoko gcwilson (~gcwilson@cpe-70-112-194-75.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 14:09.55 | *** join/#openmoko azaghal (~azaghal@109.207.38.53) |
| 14:14.08 | *** join/#openmoko der-lehmann (~stefan@188-192-133-169-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 14:25.09 | *** join/#openmoko fradeve1 (~fradeve@host30-10-dynamic.246-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 14:25.12 | *** part/#openmoko fradeve1 (~fradeve@host30-10-dynamic.246-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 14:30.43 | *** join/#openmoko spydon (~spydon@nl103-146-152.student.uu.se) |
| 14:34.30 | *** join/#openmoko thrashold (~europan@3mhz.net) |
| 14:35.36 | *** join/#openmoko retracile (~eli@76-204-213-211.lightspeed.allntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 14:35.44 | *** join/#openmoko Raydiation (~bernhard@85-126-206-52.teleworker.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 14:36.12 | Raydiation | hi im interested in buying a phone but kinda turned off by the 400mhz cpu and 128mb ram |
| 14:36.18 | Raydiation | isnt that very little today? |
| 14:36.32 | Raydiation | how fast is android/shr/and qtopia |
| 14:38.05 | Raydiation | when will the next gen come out? |
| 14:46.32 | *** part/#openmoko Raydiation (~bernhard@85-126-206-52.teleworker.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 15:00.55 | *** join/#openmoko max_posedon (~max_posed@80.249.84.73) |
| 15:08.45 | *** join/#openmoko jas4711 (~jas@2001:0:53aa:64c:2452:643b:af27:e79c) |
| 15:21.46 | Hardy_ | hey |
| 15:22.09 | Hardy_ | how can i delete all user-based settings from my moko? |
| 15:22.15 | Hardy_ | where are they hided? |
| 15:22.22 | Hardy_ | (want to reset a bit ;)) |
| 15:25.22 | *** join/#openmoko dos1 (~dos@unaffiliated/dos1) |
| 15:25.37 | Hardy_ | hey dos |
| 15:25.39 | Hardy_ | :=) |
| 15:25.50 | Hardy_ | can i ask you something? |
| 15:27.54 | *** join/#openmoko Psi (~ben@ip-58-28-158-238.static-xdsl.xnet.co.nz) |
| 15:34.07 | *** join/#openmoko naeg (~naeg@194.208.239.170) |
| 15:41.46 | *** join/#openmoko ssam (~ssam@87.127.117.246) |
| 15:43.28 | *** join/#openmoko fradeve (~fradeve@host30-10-dynamic.246-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 15:44.51 | *** join/#openmoko chomwitt (~chomwitt@ppp-94-66-172-188.home.otenet.gr) |
| 15:50.56 | *** part/#openmoko fradeve (~fradeve@host30-10-dynamic.246-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 15:51.40 | *** join/#openmoko jonkristian (~jonkristi@152.80-202-29.nextgentel.com) |
| 15:52.01 | *** join/#openmoko gargoyle-grin (~randerson@gentoo/contributor/gargoyle-grin) |
| 15:53.19 | *** join/#openmoko beersss (~beer@0x4dd40dcb.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 15:55.56 | vanous123 | Hardy_: what are looking for? |
| 15:57.40 | Hardy_ | i already rewrited my moko ^^ so its to late ^^ but thanks :) |
| 15:58.29 | Hardy_ | got problems with gsm |
| 15:58.33 | Hardy_ | wouldnt start |
| 15:58.42 | Hardy_ | eather after reflash |
| 15:58.58 | Hardy_ | (like it seems atm) |
| 16:00.37 | vanous123 | Hardy_: ok |
| 16:03.56 | Hardy_ | no wouldnt start |
| 16:04.02 | Hardy_ | is there any tweak? |
| 16:07.49 | *** join/#openmoko chomwitt_ (~chomwitt@athedsl-268890.home.otenet.gr) |
| 16:13.02 | vanous123 | Hardy_: what distro? |
| 16:13.29 | Hardy_ | shr |
| 16:13.32 | *** join/#openmoko bentob0x (~laurent@ip-213-49-64-35.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 16:15.56 | Hardy_ | couldnt start gsm antenna |
| 16:16.12 | Hardy_ | sometimes he ask me for pin |
| 16:16.15 | vanous123 | Hardy_: try to plug the neo on power and rboot |
| 16:16.27 | Hardy_ | i already tryed |
| 16:16.37 | vanous123 | in my case, this helps in most cases |
| 16:16.58 | Hardy_ | i also rebootet a lot of times |
| 16:17.03 | Hardy_ | sometimes it works |
| 16:17.14 | Hardy_ | but just in 1 of 10 situations |
| 16:20.00 | vanous123 | Hardy_: latest shr? |
| 16:20.01 | vanous123 | retty much the same here... :( |
| 16:20.01 | vanous123 | pretty |
| 16:21.32 | Hardy_ | yeah latest shr |
| 16:21.40 | Hardy_ | got the same issue?` |
| 16:22.02 | Hardy_ | i note that ticket as critical |
| 16:27.25 | *** join/#openmoko thorben (~t@omhp-uva-29-145.wireless.uva.nl) |
| 16:27.44 | *** join/#openmoko fradeve_ (~irchon@host30-10-dynamic.246-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 16:29.18 | *** join/#openmoko eolson (~eolson@maze.mcs.anl.gov) |
| 16:33.32 | Hardy_ | awesome, it worked vanous123 |
| 16:33.43 | Hardy_ | after 15 reboots xD |
| 16:34.12 | Hardy_ | but massages flushes again wtf xD |
| 16:34.44 | *** join/#openmoko fradeve_ (~irchon@host30-10-dynamic.246-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 16:35.17 | *** join/#openmoko fradeve_ (~irchon@host30-10-dynamic.246-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 16:37.43 | *** join/#openmoko redarrow (~redarrow@dslb-088-071-041-066.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:38.21 | *** join/#openmoko redarrow (~redarrow@unaffiliated/redarrow) |
| 16:42.52 | *** join/#openmoko pespin (~Sharwin_F@117.pool85-50-67.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 16:49.24 | *** join/#openmoko octavsly (~octavsly@static.ip-80-255-245-177.signet.nl) |
| 16:55.04 | *** join/#openmoko fradeve_ (~irchon@host30-10-dynamic.246-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 16:58.53 | *** join/#openmoko swap38 (~quassel@mey38-1-82-225-49-212.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:05.50 | *** join/#openmoko fradeve_ (~irchon@host30-10-dynamic.246-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 17:07.23 | *** join/#openmoko everslick (~clemens@212-183-115-233.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 17:13.55 | redarrow | [FYI] I just have seen that the high resolution Version of the Video "Talk about Openmoko by Sean Moss Putz at FOSdem" has been removed from rapidshare |
| 17:14.19 | *** join/#openmoko samgee (~samgee@fsf/member/samgee) |
| 17:18.38 | *** join/#openmoko neomilium_ (~quassel@lns-bzn-27-82-248-40-216.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 17:23.03 | *** join/#openmoko naeg (~naeg@194.208.239.170) |
| 17:26.12 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@wifi-roaming-0-61.nss.udel.edu) |
| 17:29.18 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@wifi-roaming-0-61.nss.udel.edu) |
| 17:30.45 | *** join/#openmoko ferluszt (~ferluszt@vpn-148-35.vpn.uni-mannheim.de) |
| 17:31.56 | *** join/#openmoko tg (irc@x-net.hu) |
| 17:40.38 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@wifi-roaming-0-61.nss.udel.edu) |
| 17:50.58 | *** join/#openmoko UndrWater (~Russell_D@pool-74-100-99-39.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) |
| 17:53.52 | *** join/#openmoko octavsly (~octavsly@195-241-244-119.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 17:55.22 | *** part/#openmoko nullix (~philippe@217.108.116.29) |
| 17:56.17 | *** join/#openmoko Batchy (~batchy@AVelizy-155-1-47-15.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:04.35 | *** part/#openmoko der-lehmann (~stefan@188-192-133-169-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 18:08.26 | *** join/#openmoko marhisr (~mathisrei@f054128175.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 18:18.49 | *** join/#openmoko UberNeo (~UberNeo@122.181.132.66) |
| 18:25.48 | *** join/#openmoko fsteinel (~fsteinel@fedora/fsteinel) |
| 18:31.44 | *** join/#openmoko vanous123 (~vanous@ip-85-93-173-178.wscnet.cz) |
| 18:32.01 | *** join/#openmoko Bryanstein (bryan@free.psybnc.and.eggdrop.at.shellium.org) |
| 18:33.58 | *** join/#openmoko pa4wdh (~pa4wdh@lt30598-lnx.ipv6.pa4wdh.nl.eu.org) |
| 18:40.38 | *** join/#openmoko alabd (~alabd@unaffiliated/alabd) |
| 18:41.40 | *** join/#openmoko TobiX (tobias@88.198.6.61) |
| 18:44.08 | *** part/#openmoko alabd (~alabd@unaffiliated/alabd) |
| 18:50.15 | *** join/#openmoko UberNeo (~UberNeo@122.181.132.66) |
| 18:54.01 | *** join/#openmoko zlfita (~atilla@188.200.221.150) |
| 18:55.15 | *** join/#openmoko vanous123 (~vanous@ip-85-93-173-178.wscnet.cz) |
| 19:00.12 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@host133-16.student.udel.edu) |
| 19:06.45 | *** join/#openmoko Sargun (~Sargun@atarack/Staff/Sargun) |
| 19:06.50 | *** join/#openmoko max_posedon1 (~max_posed@207-243-252-87-dynamic-pool.gprs.mts.by) |
| 19:13.02 | *** join/#openmoko Q-Master (~qmaster@93.81.231.160) |
| 19:15.18 | *** join/#openmoko eolson (~eolson@maze.mcs.anl.gov) |
| 19:20.05 | *** join/#openmoko UberNeo (~UberNeo@122.181.132.66) |
| 19:22.44 | *** join/#openmoko MathisR (~mathisrei@f054128175.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 19:24.22 | *** join/#openmoko Fish (~Fish@AVelizy-152-1-61-197.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:26.38 | *** part/#openmoko mathisr (~mathisrei@f054128175.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 19:39.15 | *** join/#openmoko kirun (~kirun@78-86-154-194.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 19:39.53 | *** join/#openmoko Q-Master (~qmaster@95-29-235-55.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 19:41.15 | *** join/#openmoko toi (~toi@195.177.247.4) |
| 19:42.19 | *** join/#openmoko alabd (~alabd@unaffiliated/alabd) |
| 19:45.24 | *** part/#openmoko alabd (~alabd@unaffiliated/alabd) |
| 19:46.48 | *** join/#openmoko alfatangoxt (~michele@host35-2-dynamic.56-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 19:50.29 | *** join/#openmoko ruoso (~ruoso@187.79.125.119) |
| 19:52.05 | *** join/#openmoko radekp (~radek@63.120.broadband10.iol.cz) |
| 19:52.13 | *** join/#openmoko octavsly (~octavsly@195-241-244-119.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 19:54.43 | *** join/#openmoko badcloud (~raanan@ti400720a342-0297.bb.online.no) |
| 19:57.10 | *** join/#openmoko ericthefish (~ivan@94-192-230-157.zone6.bethere.co.uk) |
| 19:57.10 | *** join/#openmoko ericthefish (~ivan@sit/hacker/ericthefish) |
| 19:59.50 | *** join/#openmoko thorben (~t@84-245-5-233.dsl.cambrium.nl) |
| 20:03.55 | radekp | larsc: hi, i tried to find where is the problem with modem not powering up, but havent found anything |
| 20:05.49 | larsc | hm |
| 20:06.01 | larsc | is there anything in dmesg? |
| 20:06.52 | *** join/#openmoko m0nt0 (~monto@151.57.195.74) |
| 20:06.53 | *** join/#openmoko octavsly (~octavsly@195-241-244-119.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 20:07.23 | *** join/#openmoko kirun_ (~kirun@78-86-154-194.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 20:08.07 | radekp | nothing interesting |
| 20:08.12 | *** join/#openmoko thorben (~t@84-245-5-233.dsl.cambrium.nl) |
| 20:09.07 | radekp | to me it seems that gsm_on_off() is called properly, because it block a second when i write to power_on |
| 20:09.25 | *** join/#openmoko fsteinel (~fsteinel@fedora/fsteinel) |
| 20:09.32 | radekp | i do it like this now: |
| 20:09.34 | radekp | echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-gpio/reg-fixed-voltage.1/gta02-pm-gsm.0/power_on |
| 20:10.21 | radekp | but tried to talk to modem then, even with cu and socat, but it always blocks |
| 20:10.43 | radekp | previous versions answered "AT interpreter ready" or something like this |
| 20:10.54 | larsc | hm |
| 20:12.42 | larsc | what does /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-gpio/reg-fixed-voltage.1/use_count say? |
| 20:15.17 | *** join/#openmoko hanfgeist (~hanfgeist@p57BA27DF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:16.03 | radekp | hmm i have just "modalias" and "uevent" files in that dir |
| 20:17.00 | *** join/#openmoko hanfgeist1 (~hanfgeist@p57BA4BBB.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:23.34 | larsc | oh right |
| 20:23.42 | larsc | but there is a link to regulator.11? |
| 20:24.11 | radekp | yes |
| 20:24.22 | larsc | use_count should be in there |
| 20:24.35 | radekp | i have only "num_users" with value 1 |
| 20:24.52 | *** join/#openmoko Docscrutemp (~Joerg_rw@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 20:25.01 | radekp | name of that regulator is "GSM" |
| 20:25.11 | larsc | ok looks good |
| 20:25.21 | larsc | and status is enabled? |
| 20:26.12 | radekp | IIRC yes |
| 20:26.17 | radekp | needs reboot |
| 20:26.18 | larsc | hm |
| 20:26.19 | larsc | hm |
| 20:27.59 | radekp | "state" says "enabled" |
| 20:29.37 | *** join/#openmoko mathisr (~mathisrei@f054128175.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 20:31.22 | *** join/#openmoko naught101 (~abcdef@c122-106-205-165.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 20:33.21 | mathisr | @ DocScrutinizer51 & Paul Fester : thank you for helping me yesterday, i was really confused that day, now if got it working. |
| 20:34.36 | *** part/#openmoko mathisr (~mathisrei@f054128175.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 20:37.53 | larsc | radekp: if you set 0 to power_on, how does state and num_users change? |
| 20:38.48 | radekp | num_users=0 state=disabled |
| 20:44.23 | *** join/#openmoko johnq (~x@g227084125.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 20:46.10 | johnq | can someone using shr perhaps tell me in which package the python module "bz2" can be found? (or perhaps help me finding this information on the web) |
| 20:55.57 | larsc | radekp: i think i found it |
| 20:56.07 | radekp | larsc: nice :) |
| 20:57.01 | radekp | larsc: i can test it |
| 20:57.27 | larsc | radekp: http://pastebin.com/jTWygUPG |
| 21:03.15 | *** join/#openmoko octavsly (~octavsly@195-241-244-119.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 21:03.22 | radekp | is compiling |
| 21:03.42 | radekp | in fact my computer is compiling - i am waiting :) |
| 21:04.31 | larsc | :) |
| 21:04.56 | CVirus | lol |
| 21:05.12 | *** join/#openmoko Docscrutemp (~Joerg_rw@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 21:06.20 | *** join/#openmoko mathisr (~mathisrei@f054128175.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:06.54 | larsc | the times where you have to compile by hand are gone, I guess |
| 21:06.56 | radekp | larsc: great it works :) |
| 21:07.10 | larsc | radekp: was a pretty stupid bug... |
| 21:07.36 | radekp | in fact i was going to ask where the 7 is written to gpio :) |
| 21:11.33 | radekp | larsc: thanks for help, i will try to figure out now why it does not wake from suspend on incomming call |
| 21:11.52 | radekp | larsc: but i think i will leave it for tomorrow :) |
| 21:12.04 | *** join/#openmoko ZaPPaS (~zappas@dslb-084-056-152-088.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:12.05 | larsc | radekp: the irq is not configured |
| 21:12.28 | radekp | larsc: is it difficult to fix it? |
| 21:13.38 | larsc | nope |
| 21:14.31 | larsc | adding 5 lines maybe |
| 21:15.27 | radekp | oki, btw i am using 2.6.32 kernel as daily phone for 2 weeks now |
| 21:15.41 | larsc | :) |
| 21:16.03 | radekp | except the wake on call and occasional WSOD it seems it's good :) |
| 21:16.31 | radekp | but the WSOD here i recoverable - by plugging USB cable |
| 21:17.14 | radekp | so it's a bit different WSOD from older 2.6.29 kernels |
| 21:23.10 | Weiss | yeah.. it's not really a WS"oD", just a WS |
| 21:24.13 | max_posedon | lets name this WSOW White Screen On Wakeup) |
| 21:25.30 | Weiss | do you get it also when blanking/unblanking? |
| 21:26.38 | radekp | Weiss: hmm how can i test it? |
| 21:30.05 | Weiss | just wait for the screen to blank (but not for the FR to suspend), then tap to wake it |
| 21:59.21 | *** join/#openmoko apt (ibot@rikers.org) |
| 21:59.21 | *** topic/#openmoko is Users of Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware | WikiReader users, please join #openmoko-wikireader | Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | German folks might consider to join #openmoko-de | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org + http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | Make sure to check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 |
| 21:59.51 | *** join/#openmoko pbaxter (~pbaxter@host111-152-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 22:02.24 | radekp | larsc: it works, nice |
| 22:03.33 | radekp | larsc: and strange thing is that i am not getting the white screen on resume anymore |
| 22:08.34 | *** join/#openmoko Bryanstein (bryan@free.psybnc.and.eggdrop.at.shellium.org) |
| 22:09.16 | radekp | has to go sleep, good night |
| 22:11.57 | *** join/#openmoko fredrin (~fredrik|f@cm-84.208.111.224.getinternet.no) |
| 22:13.10 | *** join/#openmoko azaghal (~azaghal@109.207.45.19) |
| 22:13.37 | *** join/#openmoko thorben (~t@84-245-5-233.dsl.cambrium.nl) |
| 22:13.45 | *** join/#openmoko neomilium (~quassel@lns-bzn-27-82-248-40-216.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 22:22.23 | *** join/#openmoko mathisr (~mathisrei@f054131088.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 22:23.19 | *** join/#openmoko azaghal_ (~azaghal@109.207.38.241) |
| 22:26.54 | *** join/#openmoko kkb110 (~kkb110@host133-16.student.udel.edu) |
| 22:27.01 | *** join/#openmoko fradeve_ (~irchon@host30-10-dynamic.246-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 23:21.02 | *** join/#openmoko apt (ibot@rikers.org) |
| 23:21.02 | *** topic/#openmoko is Users of Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware | WikiReader users, please join #openmoko-wikireader | Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | German folks might consider to join #openmoko-de | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org + http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | Make sure to check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 |
| 23:26.34 | *** join/#openmoko Heinervdm (~thomas@pD9E179CC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:35.34 | *** join/#openmoko Docscrutemp (~Joerg_rw@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 23:38.11 | *** join/#openmoko JesusMcCloud (~jesus@84-119-34-152.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 23:44.59 | *** join/#openmoko Amorphous (jan@unaffiliated/amorphous) |
| 23:45.36 | *** join/#openmoko Docscrutemp (~Joerg_rw@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 23:46.55 | *** join/#openmoko azaghal (~azaghal@109.207.33.29) |
| 23:48.47 | *** join/#openmoko DocScrutinizer (~jr@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 23:49.35 | *** join/#openmoko retracile_ (~eli@python-software-foundation.oneringnetworks.net) |
| 23:50.25 | *** join/#openmoko johnq (~x@g228074251.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 23:50.34 | DocScrutinizer | It's more like scaring you don't get a WOSD anymore |
| 23:52.16 | DocScrutinizer | wonders if there are any timing issues/races during startup of screen, like e.g init of JB6K7foo starting too short after enabling the LDO, so voltage hasn't stabilized yet |
| 23:53.17 | SpeedEvil | Sounds not insane. |
| 23:53.29 | DocScrutinizer | larsc: ...or init too short after glamo startup, so init of glamo hasn't finished yet while video if starts to init |
| 23:54.01 | DocScrutinizer | s/if/IF/ |
| 23:55.20 | *** join/#openmoko H_u_m (~j@196-192-70-217.static.dsl.core.tng.de) |
| 23:55.40 | *** join/#openmoko retracile_ (~eli@76-204-213-211.lightspeed.allntx.sbcglobal.net) |