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| 09:02.47 | Psi | wow, whoever fixed gps on gta01 under shr, thanks |
| 09:03.28 | Psi | just noticed today that gps is working great (1-feb image) |
| 09:04.00 | Psi | got a fix in <3 min while inside (used to get a lock in maybe 30min outside) |
| 09:04.25 | Psi | and it plotted my course and speed all the way home just now. Working great! |
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| 10:11.57 | pieterc | http://lwn.net/Articles/375297/ â does this interfere with FSO? |
| 10:12.18 | pieterc | Or isn't this basically what FSO does? |
| 10:13.43 | pieterc | mickeyl: yes this question is one addressed to you ;) |
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| 10:18.56 | [Rui] | pieterc: theoretically it could replace the calypso firmware, but if it worked (as it is right now) on Neo's calypso, then it would only receive calls |
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| 10:25.24 | pieterc | Oh, hi [Rui] |
| 10:25.43 | pieterc | so it's basically the layer beneath FSO? |
| 10:27.51 | max_posedon | kind of, |
| 10:28.16 | max_posedon | its firmware - it will be loaded to gsm chip, which have own cpu |
| 10:28.21 | max_posedon | (so FR have 2 cpus) |
| 10:28.40 | max_posedon | and it runs in in gsm chip, |
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| 10:30.15 | badcloud | 2? |
| 10:30.39 | badcloud | how is that? |
| 10:31.15 | max_posedon | where you think gsm firmware work? |
| 10:31.47 | badcloud | guess I didn't really have the knowledge to think about it |
| 10:31.54 | badcloud | I figured it was a one-cpu thing |
| 10:32.04 | max_posedon | yes and no |
| 10:32.13 | badcloud | ... |
| 10:32.15 | max_posedon | any gsm chip have separate cpu |
| 10:32.20 | badcloud | ah |
| 10:32.21 | max_posedon | but its not accessvle |
| 10:32.22 | badcloud | I get it |
| 10:32.36 | max_posedon | for anyone except gsm firmware |
| 10:32.42 | badcloud | got it |
| 10:32.50 | badcloud | is there a newer v than 11? |
| 10:32.58 | max_posedon | as I know - not |
| 10:33.44 | badcloud | k |
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| 10:37.13 | badcloud | you guys know anyone from Bergen, Norway with a debug b? |
| 10:37.42 | Psi | badcloud: for some things like gsm/gps you have lots of math to, or you might want to update how the chip works in the future, so its easier to just put a tiny cpu in the chip and have it run code (firmware) than to design the whole thing in hardware |
| 10:38.16 | badcloud | Psi: cool. thanks for droppin' the science :) |
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| 10:41.34 | Psi | the whole thing, cpu/memory/flash to store firmware can be inside the chip, so externally it just looks like any old chip doing its job. Not really any way to tell externally that its got a cpu inside or not |
| 10:41.53 | badcloud | wow |
| 10:42.04 | badcloud | so how do you find out if there is one? |
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| 10:42.18 | Psi | you can read the datasheet for the chip |
| 10:42.24 | badcloud | right |
| 10:42.36 | Psi | but sometimes whats inside the chip is kept secret |
| 10:42.50 | Psi | since no one really needs to know how it works, just how to interface to it |
| 10:42.58 | badcloud | ah |
| 10:43.04 | badcloud | makes (some) sense |
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| 10:51.11 | [Rui] | pieterc: yeah. |
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| 10:59.20 | mickeyl | pieterc: no, it would rather accompany FSO |
| 11:00.06 | mickeyl | for the records, IIRC we have about 5 CPUs on the FR, not just 2 :) |
| 11:00.20 | max_posedon | wow, what is the rest 3? |
| 11:00.22 | pieterc | mickeyl: ok, great news then :) |
| 11:00.28 | mickeyl | AP, BP, WiFi, GPS, BT |
| 11:00.47 | max_posedon | and all of them complicated arm cpus? |
| 11:00.57 | badcloud | you would think it would be a powerhouse then ;) |
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| 11:01.13 | mickeyl | mostly, i think |
| 11:01.24 | mickeyl | dunno what gps and bt runs on |
| 11:01.33 | max_posedon | I know that usually gsm armv7 based... but wifi/etc... |
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| 11:02.24 | PBeck | hi |
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| 11:03.59 | pieterc | msg [Rui] Well recovered from FOSDEM? ;-) |
| 11:04.18 | [Rui] | pieterc: no, still wish it was FOSDEM all year long |
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| 11:13.12 | Guest56959 | Hi all |
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| 11:14.20 | Guest56959 | I've a dependency question: |
| 11:14.20 | Guest56959 | if I do: |
| 11:14.20 | Guest56959 | opkg install e2fsprogs-uuidgen |
| 11:14.20 | Guest56959 | I get: |
| 11:14.20 | Guest56959 | Installing e2fsprogs-uuidgen (1.41.9-r0.4) to root... |
| 11:14.20 | Guest56959 | Downloading http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/e2fsprogs-uuidgen_1.41.9-r0.4_armv4t.ipk |
| 11:14.20 | Guest56959 | Collected errors: |
| 11:14.21 | Guest56959 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:14.21 | Guest56959 | But that file is already provided by package * util-linux-ng |
| 11:14.22 | Guest56959 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:14.22 | Guest56959 | What should I do? |
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| 11:39.18 | jaacoppi | is it already provided? |
| 11:40.11 | mickeyl | you can try the --force- options |
| 11:42.35 | Guest56959 | yes probably I can do --force-..., but isn't it a problem with dependencies in the repository? |
| 11:42.35 | Guest56959 | actually I forced uninstalling e2fsprogs-uuidgen to be able to upgrade util-linux-ng |
| 11:43.13 | mickeyl | yes, there's probably an update-alternatives missing somewhere |
| 11:43.31 | mickeyl | and/or some RPROVIDE |
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| 11:44.40 | Guest56959 | I'm just a user, I don't know the package details.... should I create an issue in trac for this? |
| 11:45.33 | mickeyl | worth a try @ bugs.openembedded.org |
| 11:45.57 | mickeyl | it's not a SHR issue per se |
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| 11:46.24 | Guest56959 | I'm using SHR, aren't the packages for this distribution maintained by SHR temselves? |
| 11:46.37 | mickeyl | that would be hell of work |
| 11:46.45 | mickeyl | SHR only maintains their own |
| 11:46.53 | mickeyl | and things that are special to SHR |
| 11:47.06 | Guest56959 | ok, I'll add an issue at openembedded... |
| 11:47.07 | mickeyl | the hundreds of base packages are straight from OE unmodified |
| 11:47.35 | Guest56959 | thanks for your directives |
| 11:48.27 | mickeyl | np |
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| 12:27.55 | JaMa|GoNe | Guest56959: please read this thread first: http://www.mail-archive.com/openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org/msg03712.html |
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| 15:35.49 | Guest56959 | JaMa: thanks for pointing that out |
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| 15:39.04 | JaMa|GoNe | Guest56959: if the problem was created by that patch.. probably fastest way to get it fixed would be to reply there |
| 15:40.37 | JaMa|GoNe | Guest56959: but I'm not sure if that was commited already.. so maybe it fix for your problem instead :) |
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| 15:46.53 | CooL_SPoT | hi everyone |
| 15:46.59 | Hardy_ | hi |
| 15:47.00 | CooL_SPoT | just installed android |
| 15:47.11 | CooL_SPoT | And i can't connect to it |
| 15:47.17 | CooL_SPoT | searched google a lot |
| 15:47.36 | CooL_SPoT | it just doesn't seem to be reconize by my computer |
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| 15:48.50 | tomcatek | CooL_SPoT: you have linux or windows machine? |
| 15:48.56 | CooL_SPoT | linux |
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| 15:49.15 | CooL_SPoT | the android show as eth2 |
| 15:50.03 | tomcatek | have You configured this interface for proper IP? |
| 15:50.27 | CooL_SPoT | ifconfig eth2 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 15:50.43 | CooL_SPoT | adb kill-server; ADBHOST=192.168.0.202 adb devices |
| 15:50.43 | CooL_SPoT | * daemon not running. starting it now * |
| 15:50.43 | CooL_SPoT | * daemon started successfully * |
| 15:50.43 | CooL_SPoT | List of devices attached |
| 15:50.55 | CooL_SPoT | and i see nothing |
| 15:51.26 | CooL_SPoT | i get a ping from 192.168.0.202 |
| 15:51.37 | CooL_SPoT | but adb does not show the device |
| 15:51.57 | Q-Master | CooL_SPoT: If you read ok, then you should see that by default adb is OFF in android for freerunner now for security reasons |
| 15:52.04 | tomcatek | have You tried to ssh on Your ohone? |
| 15:52.27 | CooL_SPoT | Q-Master: so what should i do? |
| 15:52.53 | Q-Master | CooL_SPoT: no idea really. ask Serdar |
| 15:53.46 | CooL_SPoT | timcatek: |
| 15:53.46 | CooL_SPoT | ssh root@192.168.0.202 |
| 15:53.47 | CooL_SPoT | ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: Connection refused |
| 15:54.02 | CooL_SPoT | *tomcatek |
| 15:54.37 | tomcatek | can Youy check if sshd is working on the phone? |
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| 15:55.12 | CooL_SPoT | ok |
| 15:55.16 | CooL_SPoT | found the solution |
| 15:55.21 | CooL_SPoT | Settings -> Application -> Development -> USB Debugging. |
| 15:55.36 | CooL_SPoT | now it reconized |
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| 16:15.29 | metropolis_pt2 | hi, has anyone here heard of osmocomBB? |
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| 19:03.31 | ftn | Hi there. I'm using SHT testing on my freerunenr and when I try to erase the last sms it won't do it. It removes it from the list of messages but whenever I restart the phone it is still there. Can you give me any hint? pls |
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