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| 00:11.39 | cosmos | hi |
| 00:13.27 | cosmos | how to erase completely the uSD card? Even after several fdisk deleting partitions and mkfs.ext3, I've still 905.28 MB of ghost data on it. |
| 00:14.03 | SpeedEvil | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo |
| 00:14.17 | SpeedEvil | depending on your definition of completely |
| 00:14.39 | mwester | what is "ghost data"? |
| 00:14.53 | cosmos | a clean uSD card |
| 00:14.55 | mwester | How do you know it is there? |
| 00:15.04 | SpeedEvil | ~30 dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/foo will erase most flash devices with 24 spare blocks per 1024 |
| 00:15.12 | mwester | How do you define an "unclean" uSD card? |
| 00:17.01 | cosmos | mwester, SpeedEvil: I see that on a fresh install of QtMoko with "info systaem">"Storage" after mounting /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/card (I have 2 partitions on the uSD card, 1:ext3 and 2:swap) |
| 00:17.42 | cosmos | I see: "Used (905.28 MB)" |
| 00:18.47 | cosmos | This data come probably from the previous install of QtMoko on the uSD card |
| 00:19.43 | SpeedEvil | after mkfs - there is no data accessible to the fs left |
| 00:19.44 | mwester | No, that's overhead associated with the filesystem. |
| 00:19.47 | SpeedEvil | what does df say |
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| 00:22.15 | cosmos | In /media/card I have a mysterious ./lost+found that I cannot access |
| 00:22.45 | cosmos | "cd: /media.card/lost+found: No such file or directory" |
| 00:23.10 | cosmos | but: |
| 00:23.14 | cosmos | neo:~# ls /media/card |
| 00:23.14 | cosmos | lost+found |
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| 00:23.58 | cosmos | Ok I want to delete that |
| 00:25.02 | cosmos | so SpeedEvil: which exact command could I use for that? |
| 00:27.12 | SpeedEvil | no, you don't |
| 00:27.14 | mwester | cosmos, you may not delete lost+found; it is a special (empty) directory. It will be used to place recovered data by the fsck utility if your card becomes so corrupted that fsck cannot determine where in the filesystem an item of data should go. |
| 00:29.01 | cosmos | mwester: ok, I can mkdir /media/card/lost+found after, but now I would like to delete these 905.28 MB of data |
| 00:29.31 | mwester | cosmos, I said already that the data is overhead. It is not files in the filesystem. There is nothing you can delete. |
| 00:29.53 | cosmos | SpeedEvil: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/mmcblk0p1? |
| 00:30.19 | SpeedEvil | cosmos: no - I was misunderstanding what you'd done |
| 00:30.30 | SpeedEvil | cosmos: you aren't seeing anything meaningful |
| 00:30.47 | SpeedEvil | it's the space that is allocated for root - and to reduce fragmentation |
| 00:31.06 | SpeedEvil | this is a 16G microsd? |
| 00:31.27 | cosmos | ? 905.28 MB of space? |
| 00:31.29 | cosmos | yes |
| 00:32.37 | SpeedEvil | That is 5% |
| 00:32.47 | SpeedEvil | which is the right number for the default spare allocation |
| 00:32.56 | cosmos | ok |
| 00:34.02 | mwester | You'll probably have a pretty significantly-sized journal as well for something that large. |
| 00:34.20 | cosmos | I wondering after a discussion wiyh radekp, to try the "ubind" alternative: install applications on a /bin folder on the uSD card and to keep the core on the NAND flash |
| 00:34.39 | mwester | why? |
| 00:34.44 | mwester | You have 16GB! |
| 00:35.00 | mwester | a few hundred MB on the flash is rather insignificant, isn't it? |
| 00:35.13 | cosmos | yes |
| 00:35.30 | mwester | SO just install everyrhing on the uSD card. |
| 00:35.51 | mwester | No need for funky bind mounts and all. |
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| 00:36.31 | cosmos | and the question of reliability? |
| 00:37.13 | mwester | What question would that be? |
| 00:38.05 | cosmos | Do a system on NAND is more reliable/stable than a system on uSD card? |
| 00:38.21 | mwester | Ah. |
| 00:38.52 | mwester | Dunno. What's the status of the latest kernels? (Aside from the standard "the sysfs API is changing without notice once again! :p ) |
| 00:39.34 | mwester | Back when I had time to mess with it, the phone pretty much crashed daily, no matter what it was booted from. So reliability wasn't much affected; it was awful no matter what! |
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| 00:46.41 | squalor | hello |
| 00:47.05 | squalor | does anyone here have a freerunner they're looking to sell? |
| 00:47.06 | jxself | squalor: Hello. |
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| 00:49.30 | jxself | squalor: US version? EU version? |
| 00:49.42 | squalor | us version, ideally |
| 00:49.57 | squalor | but wouldn't the eu version play nice with tmobile? |
| 00:50.31 | mwester | Partially. It would on the high-frequency band. |
| 00:50.49 | squalor | yeah |
| 00:51.08 | squalor | eu is typically 850 and us in 900, right? or is it the other way around? |
| 00:51.15 | jxself | US is 850 |
| 00:51.28 | jxself | 'cause the US has to be different |
| 00:51.40 | mwester | 900MHz was already in use in the US, so they had to select an open bit of spectrum. |
| 00:51.50 | squalor | ah |
| 00:52.40 | squalor | but, i've checked ebay, and there's only one there for sale. i figured that someone in the community might have a US version they no longer want... |
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| 01:51.55 | nOStahl | so if you throw android on your fr do you have full access to the app store |
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| 02:17.21 | nOStahl_ | back, so do you have full access to app store if you throw android on the fr |
| 02:29.39 | rozzin | I thought that only worked through some proprietary Google app, no? |
| 02:32.54 | nOStahl_ | not sure |
| 02:34.33 | nOStahl_ | ah ya looks that way |
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| 02:43.02 | rozzin | Android seems less interesting every time I look at it :\ |
| 02:51.41 | nOStahl_ | i use an ipod touch right now 32gig for my portable device |
| 02:51.56 | nOStahl_ | was looking at the freerunner for the gps built in and such |
| 02:52.02 | nOStahl_ | but no skype ugg |
| 02:55.27 | mwester | skype is proprietary too |
| 02:55.41 | nOStahl_ | aye |
| 02:55.59 | nOStahl_ | 3 bucks a month its hard to beat for unlimited calls north america |
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| 06:56.24 | hipitihop | although android specific, this may be of interest to someone http://theflashblog.com/?p=1758 |
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| 07:05.42 | hipitihop | anyone know if this player is likely to run acceptably on shr or similar more standard distros |
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| 09:41.47 | Chabbrik | hey everyone |
| 09:45.23 | graziano | hi |
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| 11:15.46 | *** topic/#openmoko by cosmos -> Users of Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware | WikiReader users, please join #openmoko-wikireader | Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org + http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | Make sure to check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009Does this is correct : |
| 11:15.48 | cosmos | ~ $ mv /usr/local /media/card/ |
| 11:15.49 | cosmos | ~ $ mount --bind /media/card /usr/local |
| 11:15.50 | cosmos | ~ $ echo /media/card/local /usr/local bind defaults 0 0 >> /etc/fstab |
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| 11:26.50 | cosmos | anyone used bind to link their NAND and uSD card running applications? |
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| 12:03.09 | cosmos | ping radekp |
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| 12:42.54 | cosmos | or more radically: |
| 12:42.55 | cosmos | ~ $ mv /usr /media/card/ |
| 12:42.56 | cosmos | ~ $ mount --bind /media/card /usr |
| 12:42.57 | cosmos | ~ $ echo /media/card /usr bind defaults 0 0 >> /etc/fstab |
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| 13:23.24 | cosmos | radekp: don't try this: |
| 13:23.25 | cosmos | ~ $ mv /usr /media/card/ |
| 13:23.26 | cosmos | <cosmos> ~ $ mount --bind /media/card /usr |
| 13:23.26 | cosmos | <cosmos> ~ $ echo /media/card /usr bind defaults 0 0 >> /etc/fstab |
| 13:23.33 | cosmos | that will broke your system |
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| 13:29.12 | azaghal | waits for someone to actually do it... |
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| 14:52.36 | cosmos | ping radekp: |
| 14:52.48 | radekp | cosmos: pong |
| 14:53.21 | cosmos | radekp:hi |
| 14:53.29 | radekp | cosmos: hi |
| 14:53.41 | cosmos | I've tryied the ubin alternative making: |
| 14:53.43 | cosmos | ~ $ mv /usr /media/card/ |
| 14:53.44 | cosmos | ~ $ mount --bind /media/card /usr |
| 14:53.44 | cosmos | ~ $ echo /media/card /usr bind defaults 0 0 >> /etc/fstab |
| 14:53.57 | cosmos | but that commands have broken my system |
| 14:54.48 | cosmos | So I mean even if QtMoko on uSDcard is less reliable than a NAND install, I didn't see any other alternatives |
| 14:55.01 | cosmos | actually |
| 14:55.03 | PaulFertser | cosmos: defaults,bind probably? |
| 14:56.08 | PaulFertser | cosmos: bind should be among the options. |
| 14:56.52 | PaulFertser | cosmos: and "none" for the filesystem type should work |
| 14:57.17 | PaulFertser | That shit is easily googleable... |
| 14:58.34 | radekp | cosmos: dont mv /usr /media/card |
| 14:59.35 | radekp | cosmos: unpack qtmoko-v19 on SD card and do fresh reflashing |
| 15:00.30 | cosmos | radekp: ok |
| 15:01.08 | radekp | if something goes wrong with SD card, you should still have working system |
| 15:04.01 | cosmos | radekp: I'm agree |
| 15:07.45 | cosmos | radekp: do you know why Navit takes endlessly to "wait for fix"? |
| 15:08.20 | cosmos | radekp: do I have to add an external antenna? |
| 15:08.41 | radekp | cosmos: you have to setup gpsd |
| 15:09.18 | radekp | apt-get install gpsd |
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| 15:10.00 | radekp | in QX check using gps or setup gpsd manually so that it /etc/inid.d/gpsd restart works well |
| 15:10.43 | radekp | with the manual way you'll need to setup correct GPS device which is /dev/ttySAC1 |
| 15:12.36 | cosmos | like that?: |
| 15:12.38 | cosmos | # Default settings for gpsd. |
| 15:12.38 | cosmos | # Please do not edit this file directly - use `dpkg-reconfigure gpsd' to |
| 15:12.38 | cosmos | # change the options. |
| 15:12.38 | cosmos | START_DAEMON="true" |
| 15:12.38 | cosmos | GPSD_OPTIONS="-G" |
| 15:12.39 | cosmos | DEVICES="/dev/ttySAC1" |
| 15:12.41 | cosmos | USBAUTO="false" |
| 15:12.43 | cosmos | GPSD_SOCKET="-G" |
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| 16:52.56 | uhsf | any update about running MeeGo on Neo FreeRunner? |
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| 17:09.23 | rozzin | uhsf: How can you run something that doesn't exist yet? :) |
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| 17:12.19 | uhsf | just trying to get your opinion here |
| 17:12.28 | uhsf | this channel is asleep |
| 17:14.22 | SpeedEvil | It's not implausible. |
| 17:14.28 | SpeedEvil | If the RAM isn't too constrained. |
| 17:17.09 | rozzin | There's already Mer. |
| 17:17.45 | uhsf | mer is stagnant |
| 17:18.03 | PaulFertser | uhsf: it's not stagnant, mer on FR might be but that's because nobody's interested. |
| 17:18.10 | uhsf | the only reasonable choice for my fr is still shr |
| 17:18.39 | uhsf | maybe archmobile soon if shr doesn't move faster |
| 17:19.53 | rozzin | Exactly. ;) |
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| 17:35.06 | cosmos | who wants to try puredata on SHR?: |
| 17:35.08 | cosmos | http://pd-anywhere.sourceforge.net/download.php |
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| 23:51.07 | davi | This is great news: http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2010/02/13/#20100213-six_weeks_to_bcch |
| 23:59.32 | SpeedEvil | neat |