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| 10:14.55 | alabd | Hello , how to mount linux partitions on fr ? (shr) |
| 10:16.33 | Heinervdm | alabd: just mount /dev /mnt |
| 10:25.02 | alabd | Heinervdm: thanks but http://pastebin.com/m61010bcd |
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| 10:25.52 | Heinervdm | alabd: what are you trying to do? And what is the output? |
| 10:28.03 | alabd | Heinervdm: how to mount linux (desktop) partitions on fr ? (shr) |
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| 10:29.10 | lindi- | alabd: a partition can only be mounted once |
| 10:29.21 | Heinervdm | alabd: yes, but where is that partition, what filesystem? And what's the result of the mount command? |
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| 10:33.07 | h4v | alabd: I see nfs relatade packages in repo, try that |
| 10:33.27 | alabd | Heinervdm: what do you mean ? desktop partitions are not in df list |
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| 10:34.25 | Heinervdm | alabd: so you want to mount a partition of your desktop pc on your neo? |
| 10:34.29 | alabd | lindi-: thanks does not it differ whether it is mount by which system ? |
| 10:34.35 | alabd | Heinervdm: yes |
| 10:34.47 | alabd | *mounted |
| 10:35.04 | lindi- | alabd: ? |
| 10:35.14 | Heinervdm | alabd: with nfs, cifs, sshfs or which FS? |
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| 10:35.55 | alabd | Heinervdm: what do you mean dont you read question ? desktop is linux |
| 10:36.02 | alabd | linux default fs is ext3 |
| 10:36.26 | Heinervdm | alabd: but you can't mount ext3 directly over ethernet |
| 10:36.48 | Heinervdm | and there is no default fs on linux... |
| 10:36.50 | SpeedEvil | nbd? |
| 10:36.50 | alabd | Heinervdm: it is on USB |
| 10:37.13 | Heinervdm | alabd: the fr uses ethernet over usb |
| 10:38.04 | alabd | so return to first question : how to mount linux ( desktop) partitions on fr ? (shr) |
| 10:39.02 | SpeedEvil | nfs? |
| 10:39.11 | mjr | any number of network file sharing protocols; nfs, sshfs, even cifs |
| 10:39.28 | mjr | oh, Heinervdm already mentioned all :) |
| 10:40.43 | alabd | mjr: can we use to them to make a local host in desktop for fr ? |
| 10:42.15 | mjr | oh, he left before I could decipher what he said |
| 10:42.57 | Heinervdm | :) |
| 10:47.27 | JaMa | lol |
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| 14:41.32 | uzi18 | DocScrutinizer: are You here? |
| 14:41.58 | DocScrutinizer51 | semi |
| 14:42.49 | DocScrutinizer51 | wazzup? |
| 14:42.51 | uzi18 | DocScrutinizer51: ok but will You here at the evening? |
| 14:42.58 | uzi18 | have some questions |
| 14:43.07 | DocScrutinizer51 | shoot |
| 14:43.22 | uzi18 | already sent post to community@om but it is moderated now |
| 14:43.39 | uzi18 | problem is that on a5 there is no c1769 |
| 14:43.49 | DocScrutinizer51 | the half of my brain occupied by flu won't be free the evening |
| 14:44.01 | uzi18 | understand |
| 14:44.29 | DocScrutinizer51 | on A5 there is |
| 14:44.37 | DocScrutinizer51 | it's retrofitted |
| 14:44.48 | uzi18 | i've found one cap. soldered on a top of some resistros and cap. |
| 14:44.58 | DocScrutinizer51 | yep that one |
| 14:45.02 | uzi18 | mhm |
| 14:45.15 | DocScrutinizer51 | iirc |
| 14:45.19 | uzi18 | so need to find place for new one |
| 14:45.25 | DocScrutinizer51 | please doublecheck |
| 14:45.50 | uzi18 | i'have checked but ... i'm not 100% |
| 14:45.53 | DocScrutinizer51 | replace the old one with a bigger new one |
| 14:46.14 | DocScrutinizer51 | moment please |
| 14:46.16 | uzi18 | why not solder parallel ? |
| 14:46.33 | uzi18 | ok |
| 14:49.26 | uzi18 | i'll find this photo and upload on my "site" |
| 14:52.33 | DocScrutinizer | uzi18: r1776/7/8 should be connected to Vsys C1767. There's no c1769 |
| 14:53.52 | DocScrutinizer | (community-ml) sorry I got 11655 unread on community, I refuse to read it any longer, too much noise since >1 year |
| 14:54.54 | DocScrutinizer | uzi18: please elaborate on C1769 vs c1767. |
| 14:55.41 | DocScrutinizer | is there a ooopsy somewhere in the wiki or ml, or is that a typo of yours, or me getting sth wrong? |
| 14:56.21 | uzi18 | it is my foult |
| 14:56.31 | DocScrutinizer | np. just to make sure |
| 14:56.37 | uzi18 | i realy talking about c1767 |
| 14:56.42 | DocScrutinizer | k |
| 14:57.54 | uzi18 | and it is like r1776/7/8 is one leg of capacitor and secound is connected somewhere ... (c1722/32 ?) |
| 14:58.20 | uzi18 | http://starowa.one.pl/~uzi/om/U1701_A5.jpg |
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| 14:58.24 | DocScrutinizer | uzi18: of course you can parallel a 2nd C but it's probably easier to replace with a decent one |
| 14:59.11 | uzi18 | DocScrutinizer: under this huge one it is one "extra" |
| 14:59.34 | uzi18 | on the right there are these R1776/7/8 |
| 15:00.01 | DocScrutinizer | uzi18: you got the schematics, do you? |
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| 15:00.52 | uzi18 | yes |
| 15:00.57 | uzi18 | but from a6 |
| 15:01.23 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 15:01.24 | uzi18 | so it looks like ok |
| 15:01.39 | DocScrutinizer | huh? the puplished schematics are "A5-A7_cumulative" |
| 15:02.00 | uzi18 | so the one extra cap it is my place to connect this C |
| 15:02.02 | uzi18 | hmm? |
| 15:02.18 | uzi18 | DocScrutinizer: yes cumulative |
| 15:03.23 | uzi18 | so if i need to solder one new big cap it is difficult because is will be to high |
| 15:03.44 | uzi18 | i need to fine place above (looking on pic) |
| 15:03.59 | uzi18 | and use some wires |
| 15:04.28 | DocScrutinizer | Aaah see the picture now. seems this is really early A5. On A6-refurbished A% (the sales version) this retrofitted cap is much larger iirc, and soldered a little different than on the photo |
| 15:06.49 | uzi18 | thats why i'm asking about :P |
| 15:08.28 | uzi18 | DocScrutinizer: now You see that cap on top of some R and C's ? |
| 15:08.54 | DocScrutinizer | yep the "small" redish one |
| 15:09.10 | uzi18 | DocScrutinizer: it's too small ... |
| 15:09.23 | DocScrutinizer | I try to find photo of retrofitted 47uF "A6" for you |
| 15:09.28 | uzi18 | so what value will be anought? |
| 15:09.51 | uzi18 | 47u is ok? |
| 15:10.12 | uzi18 | DocScrutinizer: thx |
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| 15:26.45 | DocScrutinizer | uzi18: can not find picture, also can not find one of the devices here I've seen before. Maybe I never owned one, but rather saw that in TPE at OM or sth. Basically you're free to add/replace a 100uF to that location any way you feel may fit. Either use wires, or use one wire for GND and solder to R1776/7/8 the other end, or whatever. It will be rather high any way, so add some stickytape to avoid shorts to can lid |
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| 15:27.29 | uzi18 | ok |
| 15:27.43 | uzi18 | looking now for parts to do 1024 |
| 15:28.00 | DocScrutinizer | 22uF/6V |
| 15:29.09 | DocScrutinizer | off to narcotize the other half of brain so it won't notice the lacking functions of the half occupied by flu |
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| 15:36.53 | DocScrutinizer | uzi18: you're aware of the people.openmoko.org collection of interesting things? |
| 15:38.00 | uzi18 | DocScrutinizer: a little |
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| 15:38.48 | DocScrutinizer | in my (joerg) folder you find schematics, component placement, and even bom |
| 15:40.06 | DocScrutinizer | it's really worth an afternoon to wander around all OM staff's people directories and see what'S riping there silently ;-) |
| 15:42.24 | uzi18 | ;) |
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| 15:47.15 | uzi18 | DocScrutinizer: it will be ok for 1024: http://pl.farnell.com/kemet/c0805c106k4pac-tu/kondensator-ceramic-multilayer/dp/1650867 ? |
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| 15:48.24 | uzi18 | DocScrutinizer: maybe this : http://pl.farnell.com/kemet/c0805c106k8pac-tu/kondensator-0805-10-uf-10v-x5r/dp/1463362 |
| 15:48.59 | DocScrutinizer | sorry seems this page has JS that kills my browser |
| 15:49.43 | DocScrutinizer | also alphaone has better experience with #1024 fix and needed/matching components |
| 15:49.58 | DocScrutinizer | you should ask him about it |
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| 15:50.19 | uzi18 | ok |
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| 15:50.59 | DocScrutinizer | alphaone: ping |
| 15:51.39 | uzi18 | just need to know if dimmensions are ok |
| 15:51.54 | DocScrutinizer | honestly I dunno |
| 15:52.28 | uzi18 | ok will wait for alphaone |
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| 16:03.00 | DocScrutinizer | uzi18: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Neo_FreeRunner_reworks_and_mods |
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| 16:05.48 | uzi18 | DocScrutinizer: brillant :) |
| 16:06.05 | alphaone | DocScrutinizer: pong |
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| 16:06.42 | DocScrutinizer | alphaone: [2010-01-27 16:47:15] <uzi18> DocScrutinizer: it will be ok for 1024: http://pl.farnell.com/kemet/c0805c106k4pac-tu/kondensator-ceramic-multilayer/dp/1650867 ? |
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| 16:07.56 | DocScrutinizer | alphaone: do you remember the specs matching 1024 rework offhand? |
| 16:08.06 | alphaone | uzi18: 10µF might work, but I wouldn't bet on it |
| 16:08.18 | alphaone | DocScrutinizer: What do you mean with specs? |
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| 16:08.32 | DocScrutinizer | dimensions, voltage, etc |
| 16:08.38 | uzi18 | alphaone: what size? |
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| 16:09.07 | DocScrutinizer | uzi18: 10uF for parallel, 22uF for swap |
| 16:09.25 | uzi18 | ok but dont know what size will fit |
| 16:09.26 | alphaone | uzi18: I used these: http://de.farnell.com/kemet/c0805c226m9pac7800/kondensator-0805-22uf-x5r/dp/1108326?Ntt=1108326 |
| 16:09.40 | alphaone | 0805 fits |
| 16:09.43 | alphaone | As replacement |
| 16:09.45 | DocScrutinizer | alphaone: pergect, thanks |
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| 16:09.57 | DocScrutinizer | pefect even |
| 16:10.06 | alphaone | paul-trigger is trigger happy |
| 16:10.13 | uzi18 | thx and 10uF 0805 will be ok ? |
| 16:10.25 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, http:// is enough |
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| 16:10.33 | uzi18 | thx |
| 16:10.48 | uzi18 | i think i will not broke my FR ;P |
| 16:10.51 | alphaone | uzi18: I can't really say |
| 16:11.04 | alphaone | uzi18: Worst case is that it wont make a difference |
| 16:11.05 | DocScrutinizer | uzi18: 10uF for parallel, 22uF for swap |
| 16:11.13 | alphaone | ah, sorry |
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| 16:15.53 | alphaone | uzi18: You will need to make sure that the top of the capacitor doesn't touch the metal shield. |
| 16:16.45 | uzi18 | i preffer to add one cap more |
| 16:17.04 | alphaone | I always use electrical tape |
| 16:17.09 | alphaone | Okay, or that |
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| 16:24.53 | uzi18 | and what kind of wires you use? |
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| 16:26.15 | alphaone | uzi18: none |
| 16:26.19 | alphaone | I replace the cap |
| 16:27.31 | alphaone | uzi18: Usually I use enameled wire for that sort of stuff |
| 16:27.40 | alphaone | Food now, bya |
| 16:28.22 | uzi18 | ok |
| 16:28.26 | uzi18 | bye |
| 16:28.31 | uzi18 | thx |
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| 18:16.51 | tim_abell | hi, quick q before i leave work. you know the tango share your position thing, can you see that data through a website? |
| 18:17.10 | tim_abell | and i don't seem to be able to change "update every" from 0.0 |
| 18:18.29 | tim_abell | i want to send a link to someone else so they can see how far away i am as i cycle |
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| 18:20.57 | tim_abell | anyone? |
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| 18:23.09 | tim_abell | nuts |
| 18:23.31 | tim_abell | oh well maybe next time |
| 18:23.34 | tim_abell | byee |
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| 19:28.16 | Wonka | hmm... now that the bleiPad (german for lead pad) is out... |
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| 19:47.40 | alabd | Hello , Is there any GUI api for detecting and pairing bt devices on shr ? |
| 19:48.05 | JaMa | emtouch (not in shr-u yet) |
| 19:48.38 | JaMa | ah emtooth :) |
| 19:51.56 | alabd | thanks jama how to make fr not suspend while nplayer is running |
| 19:52.00 | alabd | mplayer* |
| 19:53.24 | JaMa | fsoraw -r CPU -- mplayer.. |
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| 19:57.54 | Samae | Hey openmoko people ! |
| 19:59.35 | alabd | hi |
| 19:59.39 | JaMa | pespin: maybe you should create better file structure in svn.. ie having binary .ipk files in trunk is a bit pain.. that it needs to be downloaded just for bitbake to build own .ipk files.. |
| 20:00.50 | alabd | without mirco sd ram we have just that 256 MG space on fr ? |
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| 20:01.45 | JaMa | pespin: or just create ie /trunk/emtooth and move src/data/files_from_root there |
| 20:06.53 | pespin | JaMa, ok, will look about it :) |
| 20:07.26 | JaMa | pespin: ping me back, when you do.. I'll update recipe here.. |
| 20:08.39 | JaMa | pespin: no problem in this phase of development.. but error when dbus is not running is quite ugly :) http://pastebin.ca/1768406 |
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| 20:09.38 | alabd | jama in ubuntu how to access fr files gui ? |
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| 20:12.00 | alabd | JaMa: solved |
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| 20:17.54 | alabd | jama * Cannot find package emtooth. |
| 20:18.03 | alabd | testing shr |
| 20:18.51 | JaMa | alabd: 20:47:41 < JaMa> emtouch (not in shr-u yet) |
| 20:19.12 | JaMa | alabd: and in shr-t is nothing more than shr-u ofc.. |
| 20:19.50 | alabd | any app esle JaMa? |
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| 20:27.27 | JaMa | alabd: http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr/armv4t/emtooth_0.1+svnr41-r0.4_armv4t.ipk |
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| 20:57.34 | pespin__ | JaMa, this error is due to a fso bug (#499 I think) |
| 20:57.49 | pespin__ | and only think I can do is a workaround |
| 20:58.18 | pespin__ | try and if error, sleep() and retry |
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| 21:01.12 | JaMa | pespin__: ah ok.. |
| 21:02.40 | alabd | thanks jama |
| 21:04.08 | JaMa | alabd: does it work, if not talk to pespin.. :) |
| 21:04.20 | JaMa | s/work,/work?/ |
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| 21:07.10 | alabd | jama when humble make pairing ON a message pops up on onother bt device to enter passkey but after entering pass and OK on fr , emooth gives error |
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| 21:13.10 | alabd | JaMa: where to turn bt device on on fr ? |
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| 21:34.59 | alabd | pespin__: how to turn on bt ? |
| 21:35.49 | pespin__ | alabd, it is turned on by fso automatically |
| 21:37.10 | pespin__ | the error emtooth shows is because it tries to acces bluez, but fso takessome time to load it, so it just retries untill it can |
| 21:37.40 | pespin__ | it's the workaround we found at the time, the bug is reported |
| 21:41.26 | alabd | pespin__: how to sure it is on |
| 21:42.25 | pespin__ | alabd, turn on another bluetooth device, or press settings button |
| 21:42.46 | pespin__ | alabd, it should only take 1 or 2 seconds to load |
| 21:43.01 | pespin__ | but that a lot for a C code jeje |
| 21:43.20 | Wonka | not if there's other processes producing load too |
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