| 00:18.48 | BillK | DocScrutinizer: FR loses time after about 1m of battery out. Sometimes less :( |
| 00:19.18 | DocScrutinizer | BillK: many thanks |
| 00:19.36 | DocScrutinizer | BillK: would you by any incidence know your datecode? |
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| 00:20.33 | BillK | can I get it via software? - its a first release batch v5 (old ...) |
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| 00:21.05 | DocScrutinizer | BillK: that's good enough info |
| 00:21.21 | BillK | k |
| 00:21.33 | DocScrutinizer | BillK: and no, I don't think it can be retrieved via sw |
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| 00:22.02 | BillK | backups finished so its shutting down so I can see under battery ... |
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| 00:23.56 | DocScrutinizer | BillK: really not needed. A5 is so old we know enough about age of backup bat without any datecode |
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| 00:25.13 | DocScrutinizer | sheeesh netsplit |
| 00:26.05 | DocScrutinizer | please everybody reporting: feel free to update topic. thanks |
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| 00:31.27 | BillK | DocScrutinizer: date code 20080703. Sorry bout delay - typed "halt" on my gateway and not FR :( |
| 00:31.55 | DocScrutinizer | BillK: thanks a lot |
| 00:32.48 | lindi- | thanks for the netsplit :) |
| 00:33.02 | BillK | :) |
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| 03:05.42 | buluca | hi, did you experience any trouble trying to make Qi boot from a large (namely 8 GB) sdhc card? |
| 03:08.37 | buluca | here it boots from nand, apparently just skipping the sdhc |
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| 12:54.40 | Weiss | DocScrutinizer: results of my hwclock test: it reset to "Sat Jan 1 2000" after about 15 minutes without battery |
| 12:55.02 | PaulFer`` | Weiss: +1 to the battery dead then |
| 12:55.12 | Weiss | GTA02A6 (no fixes), drm-tracking kernel etc |
| 12:55.12 | *** topic/#openmoko by DocScrutinizer -> READ http://blog.freenode.net ! || Users of Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware | WikiReader users, please join #openmoko-wikireader | Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org + http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | Make sure to check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 | SHR images: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ | time lost:3 kept:0 |
| 12:55.23 | Weiss | what's the issue being debugged? |
| 12:55.30 | PaulFer`` | DocScrutinizer: the misterious fault of the batteries :) |
| 12:55.51 | DocScrutinizer | Weiss: thanks |
| 12:56.22 | Weiss | hw clock backup battery or something? |
| 12:56.26 | PaulFer`` | Weiss: yes |
| 12:56.31 | PaulFer`` | Exactly |
| 12:56.36 | DocScrutinizer | please everybody with a FR: can you do the following test: check hw clock settings with command "hwclock" in terminal. (make sure it's not like 01.01.1970 or sth, a reasonable time would be fine). Then power down device and remove battery for 5 minutes. Reinsert battery, boot up to a state without internet connectivity and without using GPS, and check again with "hwclock". Then report here if time is roundabout the same it was before |
| 12:56.38 | DocScrutinizer | battery removal, or if it's been reset by that procedure |
| 12:56.47 | DocScrutinizer | PS re "please everybody": while you fremove your bat, you have 5 minutes to copy the datecode under the battery. Please post this datecode together with your result of "time reset" / "time kept correct" |
| 12:57.13 | Weiss | ah, I didn't read the datecode.. |
| 12:57.22 | DocScrutinizer | Thanks a lot. This will help us building better devices (if we ever get to do such enterprise) |
| 12:58.06 | Weiss | is it a hardware problem, or something like the kernel not twiddling the right registers to charge the battery properly? |
| 12:59.18 | DocScrutinizer | Weiss: the 1mio dollar question ;-P |
| 12:59.24 | Weiss | ah.. |
| 13:04.28 | PaulFer`` | Weiss: i think i checked and i was sure the register was set properly. |
| 13:04.47 | PaulFer`` | win 18 |
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| 13:21.49 | pespin | PaulFer``, I remember my phone beign set to 1 Jan 2000 some days ago too :) |
| 13:22.10 | PaulFer`` | pespin: unfortunately, that's not a surprise |
| 13:22.45 | djj | 20090317 and... time kept :o |
| 13:23.58 | PaulFer`` | djj: sure you waited for 5 minutes without the main battery and usb plugged? |
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| 13:28.53 | djj | PaulFer``: yes, i'm sure of it |
| 13:29.12 | PaulFer`` | djj: lucky you. Interesting. DocScrutinizer ^^^ |
| 13:31.27 | DocScrutinizer | please everybody reporting: feel free to update topic. thanks |
| 13:32.48 | DocScrutinizer | djj: you don't have internet (so time is set via NTP), GPS enabled, or registered with GSM and time set via GSM time broadcast? |
| 13:33.10 | DocScrutinizer | PS re "please everybody": while you fremove your bat, you have 5 minutes to copy the datecode under the battery. Please post this datecode together with your result of "time reset" / "time kept correct" |
| 13:33.45 | DocScrutinizer | aah sorry, missed the beginning of line |
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| 13:34.38 | h4v | 20080725 time kept |
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| 13:35.08 | djj | DocScrutinizer: yeah, no ntp or gps and it hadn't registered with gsm yet :) |
| 13:35.44 | DocScrutinizer | djj: h4v: many thanks :-) |
| 13:40.09 | meuh | 20091025 time reset |
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| 13:40.44 | PaulFer`` | meuh: 1025? That late in the run? |
| 13:41.04 | meuh | ordered in january 2010 :) |
| 13:41.10 | PaulFer`` | Kewl |
| 13:41.14 | DocScrutinizer | A7? |
| 13:41.30 | meuh | A7, yes |
| 13:44.52 | Weiss | DocScrutinizer: my date code (time loss already added to the totals): 20080925 |
| 13:45.39 | DocScrutinizer | thnx |
| 13:45.52 | meuh | Hardware : GTA02 |
| 13:45.52 | meuh | Revision : 0360 |
| 13:45.52 | meuh | Serial : 0000000000000000 |
| 13:46.20 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
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| 13:52.40 | meuh | lol ? that's the only piece of information i'm currently able to retrieve (newbie inside) |
| 13:53.24 | DocScrutinizer | lol on the ser#, not on your post. thanks for sharing :-) |
| 13:54.06 | meuh | ok ;) i hope my IMEI is not set to the same value |
| 13:54.26 | DocScrutinizer | hehehe we that one too, long ago |
| 13:54.52 | pespin | DocScrutinizer, will you still doing the poll this afternoon? I'm a bit busy right now ;) |
| 13:55.05 | DocScrutinizer | sure pespin |
| 13:55.21 | pespin | ok, hope I'll remember :) |
| 13:55.41 | DocScrutinizer | I'll repost the call every once in a while |
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| 13:58.56 | Q-Master | DocScrutinizer: 20080901 and time kept. |
| 13:59.21 | DocScrutinizer | please everybody reporting: feel free to update topic. thanks |
| 14:01.02 | DocScrutinizer | on a second thought, maybe it's better the chanops do that (or any other user acustomed to doing it, so the topic doesn't deteriorate) |
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| 14:01.39 | Q-Master | DocScrutinizer: you should do it yourself then. 8) |
| 14:01.41 | DocScrutinizer | howdy raster |
| 14:01.56 | raster | DocScrutinizer: DOCZZZZ! |
| 14:02.14 | SpeedEvil | raster: are you aware of any similar fuzzy-keyboard work to work with hwkeybs? |
| 14:02.37 | JaMa | ahh loosers are still winning a bit :) |
| 14:02.45 | raster | SpeedEvil: none, actually, but the same principle can work i'd guess |
| 14:02.47 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: thinking N900 ;-P |
| 14:03.14 | SpeedEvil | Possibly, yes. |
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| 14:03.28 | SpeedEvil | Though in priciple you could even jam it into - say - screen |
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| 14:05.50 | DocScrutinizer | please everybody with a FR: can you do the following test: check hw clock settings with command "hwclock" in terminal. (make sure it's not like 01.01.1970 or sth, a reasonable time would be fine). Then power down device and remove battery for 5 minutes. Reinsert battery, boot up to a state without internet connectivity and without using GPS, without registering to GSM (remove SIM if no PIN set) and check again with "hwclock". Then report |
| 14:05.51 | DocScrutinizer | here if time is roundabout the same it was before battery removal, or if it's been reset by that procedure. while you remove your bat, you have 5 minutes to copy the datecode under the battery. Please post this datecode together with your result of "time reset" / "time kept correct". Thanks a lot. This will help us building better devices (if we ever get to do such enterprise) |
| 14:08.10 | djp_ | anyone have issues installing the latest shr-unstable? i past choosing the language and the illume shr profile, but then after selecting next on the first run screen, it loads the desktop, lots of little black menu boxes appear at the bottom (normally shows 3, currently showing 10) and the fr can't seem to connect to my mobile network... |
| 14:10.46 | DocScrutinizer | djp_: known issue. Devels are working on it. Use a older version |
| 14:11.39 | djp_ | DocScrutinizer: ah, thanks not just me then. :) |
| 14:14.02 | JaMa | djp_: connect to gsm should work |
| 14:14.42 | JaMa | djp_: and those 10 buttons are better to ignore untill we switch to illume2 (AFAIK nobody is working on 10 buttons..) |
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| 14:15.11 | DocScrutinizer | raster: listen ^^ |
| 14:15.52 | JaMa | it's probably some changed logic in theme.. not e fault as such |
| 14:16.14 | DocScrutinizer | ooh |
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| 14:17.01 | DocScrutinizer | whoooopy, >200 users |
| 14:17.15 | JaMa | but I mean that theme wasn't changed.. just now it behaves a bit different (maybe something wasn't specified right from the start) |
| 14:18.39 | djp_ | JaMa: tried using settings option but received an application error... |
| 14:18.52 | djp_ | DocScrutinizer: should i revert to an older kernel image also? |
| 14:19.24 | playya_ | DocScrutinizer, actually no. minus your accounts minus ChanServ =199 :) |
| 14:19.56 | DocScrutinizer | yeah spaetz left after a second |
| 14:20.26 | playya_ | let's spank him when he's back :) |
| 14:22.04 | DocScrutinizer | djp_: always use the kernel and modules matching the rootfs date, as a rule of thumb |
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| 14:27.34 | dos1 | DocScrutinizer: GTA02A5 - 20080621 - time reset |
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| 14:28.12 | *** topic/#openmoko by DocScrutinizer -> READ http://blog.freenode.net ! || Users of Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware | WikiReader users, please join #openmoko-wikireader | Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org + http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | Make sure to check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 | SHR images: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ | time lost:5 kept:3 (#8:dos1) |
| 14:29.28 | djp_ | DocScrutinizer: thanks |
| 14:31.27 | gena2x | had discarge in <5 seconds, DATECODE 20080821 |
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| 14:32.06 | *** topic/#openmoko by DocScrutinizer -> READ http://blog.freenode.net ! || Users of Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware | WikiReader users, please join #openmoko-wikireader | Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org + http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | Make sure to check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 | SHR images: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ | time lost:6 kept:3 (#9:gena2x;#8:dos1) |
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| 14:43.52 | matze| | DocScrutinizer: DATECODE: 20080925 - time reset |
| 14:44.36 | *** topic/#openmoko by DocScrutinizer -> READ http://blog.freenode.net ! || Users of Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware | WikiReader users, please join #openmoko-wikireader | Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org + http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | Make sure to check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 | SHR images: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ | time lost:7 kept:3 (#10:matze;#9:gena2x) |
| 15:19.56 | ZaPPaS | DocScrutinizer: GTA02A6 (Buzz-fix) - 20080707 - time reset |
| 15:22.23 | *** topic/#openmoko by DocScrutinizer -> READ http://blog.freenode.net ! || Users of Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware | WikiReader users, please join #openmoko-wikireader | Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org + http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | Make sure to check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 | SHR images: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ | time lost:8 kept:3 (#11:ZaPPaS;#10:matze |
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| 15:33.19 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer: are you logging the timecodes somewhere too? |
| 15:33.53 | DocScrutinizer | lindi-: not really. just trying to find a pattern. obviously there isn't any |
| 15:36.56 | octavsly | DocScrutinizer: datacode 20080725 |
| 15:36.56 | octavsly | DocScrutinizer: time before reset: Tue Jan 26 15:25:03 2010 0.000000 seconds |
| 15:36.56 | octavsly | DocScrutinizer: time after reset: Sat Jan 1 00:04:09 2000 0.000000 seconds |
| 15:37.53 | *** topic/#openmoko by DocScrutinizer -> READ http://blog.freenode.net ! || Users of Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware | WikiReader users, please join #openmoko-wikireader | Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org + http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | Make sure to check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 | SHR images: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ | time lost:9 kept:3 (#12:octavsly;#11:ZaP |
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| 15:44.18 | djp_ | what are these files... shr-full-eglibc-ipk--20091119-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2? are these just older versions of full-om-gta02.jffs2? |
| 15:46.46 | djp_ | reason i ask, is because i've used full-om-gta02.jffs2 in the old-images directory and seem to have a pretty old version of shr-unstable now |
| 15:52.01 | Heinervdm | full-om-gta02.jffs2 is just a link to the latest image in that directory |
| 15:52.50 | Heinervdm | djp_: in my opinon one should download only the proper named images, then you will always know the exact version |
| 15:54.38 | djp_ | Heinervdm: thanks... i need an older image as unfortunately the latest one has issues... |
| 15:55.21 | djp_ | Heinervdm: i just didn't know whether the -eglibc-ipk-... files were older versions or not... |
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| 16:11.15 | DocScrutinizer | please everybody with a FR: can you do the following test: check hw clock settings with command "hwclock" in terminal. (make sure it's not like 01.01.1970 or sth, a reasonable time would be fine). Then power down device and remove battery for 5 minutes. Reinsert battery, boot up to a state without internet connectivity and without using GPS, without registering to GSM (remove SIM if no PIN set) and check again with "hwclock". Then report |
| 16:11.16 | DocScrutinizer | here if time is roundabout the same it was before battery removal, or if it's been reset by that procedure. while you remove your bat, you have 5 minutes to copy the datecode under the battery. Please post this datecode together with your result of "time reset" / "time kept correct". Thanks a lot. This will help us building better devices (if we ever get to do such enterprise) |
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| 16:36.25 | jl_gene | DocScrutinizer: 20080621 time reset |
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| 16:39.07 | DocScrutinizer | jl_gene: thanks |
| 16:39.59 | lindi- | topic is so long that it gets truncated here |
| 16:42.04 | DocScrutinizer | lindi-: oops |
| 16:42.14 | DocScrutinizer | which client? |
| 16:42.17 | lindi- | irssi |
| 16:42.32 | DocScrutinizer | :-/ |
| 16:42.33 | lindi- | i'm betting its the server that truncates it though |
| 16:42.41 | DocScrutinizer | nope |
| 16:42.49 | DocScrutinizer | everything fine here |
| 16:43.23 | DocScrutinizer | so if tthat's not *your* server truncating it... |
| 16:43.53 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer: can you change it once so that tcpdump can see it? |
| 16:44.03 | DocScrutinizer | sure |
| 16:44.46 | lindi- | hmm, now away, will check the dump later |
| 16:45.18 | DocScrutinizer | ok now it's truncated here as well, after "tp://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ | time lost:10 kept:3 (#13:jl_gene;#12:octavsly) Eâ |
| 16:46.03 | DocScrutinizer | lindi-: where is your truncation cutting in? |
| 16:46.50 | DocScrutinizer | seems I remember I actually seen different topic maxlen on the different servers |
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| 16:53.01 | Heinervdm | DocScrutinizer: for me it's truncated there: | time lost:10 kept:3 (#13:jl_gene;#12:oct |
| 16:54.05 | DocScrutinizer | oh well, seems I seen that before. Freenode bug. just never mind |
| 16:54.56 | DocScrutinizer | though unconfirmed - for the bug |
| 16:56.33 | DocScrutinizer | wonders if the 8chars truncation diff and the 8 "|" pipechars in topic are mere incidence |
| 16:57.10 | SpeedEvil | the /topic #foo is counted in the 512 chars IIRC |
| 16:57.23 | SpeedEvil | However it's done |
| 16:59.05 | DocScrutinizer | well, truncation or not - could someone please take over updating the topic on reports coming in? Need some off time |
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| 18:59.16 | DocScrutinizer | Weiss: ping |
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| 19:18.08 | DocScrutinizer | please everybody with a FR: can you do the following test: check hw clock settings with command "hwclock" in terminal. (make sure it's not like 01.01.1970 or sth, a reasonable time would be fine). Then power down device and remove battery for 5 minutes. Reinsert battery, boot up to a state without internet connectivity and without using GPS, without registering to GSM (remove SIM if no PIN set) and check again with "hwclock". Then report |
| 19:18.09 | DocScrutinizer | here if time is roundabout the same it was before battery removal, or if it's been reset by that procedure. while you remove your bat, you have 5 minutes to copy the datecode under the battery. Please post this datecode together with your result of "time reset" / "time kept correct". Thanks a lot. This will help us building better devices (if we ever get to do such enterprise) |
| 19:21.18 | ndnihil | what happens after the 5 minutes? |
| 19:21.34 | SpeedEvil | It explodes. |
| 19:22.56 | ndnihil | I was afraid of that |
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| 19:34.24 | ThibG | it didn't explode, is it fine, still? |
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| 19:50.44 | ThibG | DocScrutinizer, Date Code: 20090317 ; time... perfectly correct? something must have been wrong |
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| 19:52.48 | wer-ist-roger | hej everyone |
| 19:53.38 | wer-ist-roger | does anybody know hot to connect the latest qtmoko with a SIP-Server. I configured the client but it just won't register |
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| 20:17.09 | Heinervdm | DocScrutinizer: 20081016: time reset |
| 20:20.58 | dos1 | ThibG: looks like your Freerunner is just too young :P |
| 20:21.33 | ThibG | when I say "perfectly correct", I mean, it's perfectly correct, it hasn't stopped when I've removed the battery |
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| 20:23.02 | dos1 | ThibG: dunno exactly how it's done in FR, but some devices just have backup battery to keep clock running |
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| 21:09.59 | samgee | DocScrutinizer, date code 20080821, time reset (to 2000-01-01) |
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| 21:38.13 | tim_abell | is opkg upgrading shr-t... |
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| 22:05.27 | uzi18 | hi all |
| 22:05.49 | uzi18 | anyone know where to find c1767 on FR ? |
| 22:06.08 | uzi18 | need to know also if it is the same dimmensions as buzzfix |
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| 23:10.32 | PaulFer`` | uzi18: there's a BOM |
| 23:11.00 | PaulFer`` | uzi18: fyi "size C" is ok for the buzzfix |
| 23:12.19 | uzi18 | thx |
| 23:12.20 | PaulFer`` | uzi18: and also there's a searchable version of pcb layout, courtesy lindi-. |
| 23:12.35 | uzi18 | i want to mod A5 -> A6 in this case |
| 23:12.37 | PaulFer`` | uzi18: you'll find everything at http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/schematics/GTA02/ |
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| 23:12.50 | uzi18 | thx |
| 23:13.14 | DocScrutinizer | yoh |
| 23:13.38 | PaulFer`` | uzi18: one guy's already did a5->a6 mod but i do not remember who. I remember there's not quite much space for the cap inside, probably he used some lower capacity 1206 or something, not the same as for the buzzfix, but i'm not sure. |
| 23:13.43 | uzi18 | PaulFer``: and what kind of parts needed to mod gsm to dont eat current/ |
| 23:14.11 | DocScrutinizer | #1024 fix |
| 23:14.19 | uzi18 | yes |
| 23:14.26 | DocScrutinizer | it's on wiki / ml |
| 23:14.46 | PaulFer`` | uzi18: any decent ceramic 0805 capacitor 22uF 6V iirc |
| 23:14.59 | DocScrutinizer | yap |
| 23:15.10 | uzi18 | and buzzfix is 100u ? |
| 23:15.29 | PaulFer`` | uzi18: 100u is ok for a buzzfix. |
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| 23:15.59 | uzi18 | nice to hear :) maybe today will order some parts from farnell |
| 23:16.36 | PaulFer`` | uzi18: check the space inside, where you plan to add the Vsupply a5->a6 cap. |
| 23:16.49 | uzi18 | PaulFer``: any other fixes i could do on my a5 ? |
| 23:16.57 | PaulFer`` | uzi18: the bassfix |
| 23:17.02 | uzi18 | hmm |
| 23:17.10 | PaulFer`` | uzi18: i did it on 4 devices so far |
| 23:17.23 | uzi18 | PaulFer``: and need to remove minijack ? |
| 23:17.51 | PaulFer`` | uzi18: no |
| 23:18.22 | PaulFer`` | uzi18: GTA02_bass_fix |
| 23:18.24 | uzi18 | have found couple of fixes on same problem but dont remember now |
| 23:18.26 | PaulFer`` | on the wiki |
| 23:18.40 | uzi18 | ok will check |
| 23:18.50 | DocScrutinizer | my firstborn ;-) |
| 23:18.53 | PaulFer`` | uzi18: hm, one more thing. |
| 23:18.58 | uzi18 | ? |
| 23:19.32 | PaulFer`` | uzi18: check that r3004 and r3005 are actually 0R and not 1uF capacitors. If those are caps -- short them. |
| 23:19.40 | DocScrutinizer | short the 0R capacitors |
| 23:20.21 | DocScrutinizer | the idiot bastard son |
| 23:20.30 | DocScrutinizer | (FZ) |
| 23:21.53 | Psi | 0R capacitors? |
| 23:21.59 | uzi18 | ;) |
| 23:22.11 | DocScrutinizer | SIC! |
| 23:22.11 | uzi18 | PaulFer``: this was some filter? |
| 23:22.32 | DocScrutinizer | this was brain cancer |
| 23:22.34 | PaulFer`` | uzi18: this was some stupidity, just a burst of insanity |
| 23:24.02 | PaulFer`` | uzi18: btw, if you're really cool you should consider fixing buzz for the wired headset. This is nothing anybody done before. |
| 23:24.32 | PaulFer`` | uzi18: R4408 should be split into two series R's and a buzzfix 100uF connected to the middle point. |
| 23:25.02 | uzi18 | looking into shecmes |
| 23:25.23 | uzi18 | schemes |
| 23:25.25 | uzi18 | :P |
| 23:25.27 | PaulFer`` | uzi18: most probably to do that you'll need to route 2 wires outside the can, but you need to properly shield them and probably add ferrite bead. |
| 23:25.33 | PaulFer`` | anyway, gotta sleep. |
| 23:25.44 | uzi18 | ok thank you ! |
| 23:25.48 | uzi18 | good night |
| 23:25.52 | PaulFer`` | I'm sure DocScrutinizer is able to tell all this and more better than me :) |
| 23:26.01 | PaulFer`` | Have a nice evening :) |
| 23:26.14 | uzi18 | i'm going asleep to |
| 23:26.17 | uzi18 | too |
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| 23:26.24 | DocScrutinizer | nightinight PaulFer`` |
| 23:26.34 | PaulFer`` | DocScrutinizer: see you tomorrow Doc :) |
| 23:26.45 | Psi | nite PaulFer |
| 23:27.06 | PaulFer`` | Good night, everybody :) |
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