| 00:00.10 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:00.13 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:00.15 | paul-trigger | "Beware, due to the recent spammers' attacks visiting URLs might be really dangerous. Ensure you disable javascript before going anywhere or else you might end up being banned from freenode for spamming!" |
| 00:00.19 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:02.40 | *** join/#openmoko mnt_real (n=sinan@bas1-montreal43-1177754708.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 00:02.43 | *** join/#openmoko alfatangoxt (n=michele@95.239.202.206) |
| 00:03.12 | *** join/#openmoko esasyogwugiq (n=otll@c-98-242-174-195.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 00:03.12 | esasyogwugiq | Hi all. It seems we\'re again seeing javascript based flood spam. If you\'re experiencing this, please do not click the links in the messages as they will cause you to repeat the spam. More information is available at http://peoplesprimary.com. Thanks! |
| 00:03.12 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:03.13 | paul-trigger | "Beware, due to the recent spammers' attacks visiting URLs might be really dangerous. Ensure you disable javascript before going anywhere or else you might end up being banned from freenode for spamming!" |
| 00:03.52 | *** join/#openmoko SpeedEvil1 (n=user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 00:04.13 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:04.16 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:04.18 | paul-trigger | "Beware, due to the recent spammers' attacks visiting URLs might be really dangerous. Ensure you disable javascript before going anywhere or else you might end up being banned from freenode for spamming!" |
| 00:04.19 | *** join/#openmoko pogeys4855 (i=c46hkMdx@Doberanala-1-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 00:04.23 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:09.55 | *** join/#openmoko spb (i=stephen@freenode/developer/exherbo.spb) |
| 00:09.55 | *** join/#openmoko azaghal_ (n=azaghal@60.229.178.212.adsl.dyn.beotel.net) |
| 00:11.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | pogeys4855: seems we don't like you. |
| 00:12.05 | *** join/#openmoko SpeedEvil (n=user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 00:12.13 | *** join/#openmoko xego (n=chkxxssh@frnk-590fccd3.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 00:12.13 | xego | Hi all. It seems we\'re again seeing javascript based flood spam. If you\'re experiencing this, please do not click the links in the messages as they will cause you to repeat the spam. More information is available at http://peoplesprimary.com. Thanks! |
| 00:12.13 | *** join/#openmoko flhvacpsxc (n=yzkuldce@g229059208.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 00:12.13 | flhvacpsxc | Hi all. It seems we\'re again seeing javascript based flood spam. If you\'re experiencing this, please do not click the links in the messages as they will cause you to repeat the spam. More information is available at http://peoplesprimary.com. Thanks! |
| 00:12.13 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:12.14 | paul-trigger | "Beware, due to the recent spammers' attacks visiting URLs might be really dangerous. Ensure you disable javascript before going anywhere or else you might end up being banned from freenode for spamming!" |
| 00:12.22 | DocScrutinizer51 | pogeys4855: what's device this chan is about looks like? |
| 00:13.03 | DocScrutinizer51 | pogeys4855: sorry. you're kickbanned for causing spam attacks |
| 00:13.15 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:13.17 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:13.18 | ndnihil | hrm, have you guys thought about making the channel +m and adding a delayed +v to users who join? |
| 00:13.19 | *** mode/#openmoko [+o DocScrutinizer51] by ChanServ |
| 00:13.20 | paul-trigger | "Beware, due to the recent spammers' attacks visiting URLs might be really dangerous. Ensure you disable javascript before going anywhere or else you might end up being banned from freenode for spamming!" |
| 00:13.24 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:13.25 | *** join/#openmoko nprice (n=nprice@cpe-76-184-72-104.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 00:13.27 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:13.29 | paul-trigger | "Beware, due to the recent spammers' attacks visiting URLs might be really dangerous. Ensure you disable javascript before going anywhere or else you might end up being banned from freenode for spamming!" |
| 00:13.34 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:13.36 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:13.39 | paul-trigger | "Beware, due to the recent spammers' attacks visiting URLs might be really dangerous. Ensure you disable javascript before going anywhere or else you might end up being banned from freenode for spamming!" |
| 00:13.43 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:13.47 | nprice | what is going on in here |
| 00:13.56 | nprice | why is paul-trigger spamming and flooding |
| 00:13.58 | pogeys4855 | uhh |
| 00:13.59 | ndnihil | all these automated messages are just as bad as the repated url dumps |
| 00:14.01 | nprice | this is not the proper way to operate irc |
| 00:14.03 | pogeys4855 | I didnt spam |
| 00:14.08 | *** mode/#openmoko [+b pogeys*!*@*] by DocScrutinizer51 |
| 00:14.23 | nprice | screw this i am gonna go work on maemo apps |
| 00:14.35 | nprice | until openmoko community gets their act together |
| 00:14.54 | *** part/#openmoko nprice (n=nprice@cpe-76-184-72-104.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 00:15.53 | *** part/#openmoko pogeys4855 (i=c46hkMdx@Doberanala-1-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 00:20.32 | *** join/#openmoko dns53 (n=dns@66.141.LCA2010.fx.net.nz) |
| 00:21.45 | *** join/#openmoko fct (n=dhfibsb@67.174.218.95) |
| 00:21.45 | fct | Hi all. It seems we are again seeing javascript based flood spam. If you are experiencing this, please do not click the links in the messages as they will cause you to repeat the spam. More information is available at http://peoplesprimary.com. Thanks! |
| 00:21.45 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:21.45 | paul-trigger | "Beware, due to the recent spammers' attacks visiting URLs might be really dangerous. Ensure you disable javascript before going anywhere or else you might end up being banned from freenode for spamming!" |
| 00:22.47 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:22.49 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:22.52 | paul-trigger | "Beware, due to the recent spammers' attacks visiting URLs might be really dangerous. Ensure you disable javascript before going anywhere or else you might end up being banned from freenode for spamming!" |
| 00:22.56 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:22.58 | DocScrutinizer51 | PaulFert`: this doesn't really pan out |
| 00:23.51 | *** join/#openmoko CVirus (n=Satan@41.130.212.171) |
| 00:23.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | PaulFert`: the warning doubles the spam load |
| 00:24.08 | ndnihil | agrees |
| 00:24.16 | ndnihil | O |
| 00:24.38 | *** join/#openmoko ttlbpflai (n=hvfowy@97.93.232.189) |
| 00:24.38 | ttlbpflai | Hi all. It seems we are again seeing javascript based flood spam. If you are experiencing this, please do not click the links in the messages as they will cause you to repeat the spam. More information is available at http://peoplesprimary.com. Thanks! |
| 00:24.38 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:24.39 | paul-trigger | "Beware, due to the recent spammers' attacks visiting URLs might be really dangerous. Ensure you disable javascript before going anywhere or else you might end up being banned from freenode for spamming!" |
| 00:24.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | paul-trigger: please remove this msg if you don't find a way to discard the pending triggers |
| 00:24.51 | ndnihil | er, I'd go +m, and add a delayed +v for people who join at the bot |
| 00:25.24 | DocScrutinizer51 | ndnihil: how would I add a delayed +v ? |
| 00:25.39 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:25.42 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:25.44 | paul-trigger | "Beware, due to the recent spammers' attacks visiting URLs might be really dangerous. Ensure you disable javascript before going anywhere or else you might end up being banned from freenode for spamming!" |
| 00:25.49 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:26.15 | ndnihil | watch the joins, and add each join to a counter queue, after N seconds pass, set the mode |
| 00:26.21 | *** join/#openmoko zqtdzavb (n=cwecgzll@c-67-183-200-24.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 00:26.21 | zqtdzavb | Hi all. It seems we are again seeing javascript based flood spam. If you are experiencing this, please do not click the links in the messages as they will cause you to repeat the spam. More information is available at http://peoplesprimary.com. Thanks! |
| 00:26.21 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:26.21 | paul-trigger | "Beware, due to the recent spammers' attacks visiting URLs might be really dangerous. Ensure you disable javascript before going anywhere or else you might end up being banned from freenode for spamming!" |
| 00:26.21 | ndnihil | I dont know what bot you're using |
| 00:27.04 | DocScrutinizer51 | ndnihil: if we were using a decent bot this wouldn't happen |
| 00:27.22 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:27.25 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:27.27 | paul-trigger | "Beware, due to the recent spammers' attacks visiting URLs might be really dangerous. Ensure you disable javascript before going anywhere or else you might end up being banned from freenode for spamming!" |
| 00:27.32 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:27.50 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by DocScrutinizer51 |
| 00:28.07 | ndnihil | or maybe set the channel mode to +s |
| 00:28.15 | ndnihil | so it doesnt show up in the /list |
| 00:28.24 | ndnihil | I'm guessing that's how the bots are finding it |
| 00:28.30 | DocScrutinizer51 | doesn't help |
| 00:28.35 | DocScrutinizer51 | nope |
| 00:28.40 | DocScrutinizer51 | hardcoded list |
| 00:28.45 | ndnihil | oh |
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| 00:30.06 | ndnihil | hrm |
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| 00:42.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | wonders... |
| 00:42.55 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by DocScrutinizer51 |
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| 00:44.18 | yagg | Hi all. It seems we are again seeing javascript based flood spam. If you are experiencing this, please do not click the links in the messages as they will cause you to repeat the spam. More information is available at http://peoplesprimary.com. Thanks! |
| 00:44.18 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:44.18 | paul-trigger | "Beware, due to the recent spammers' attacks visiting URLs might be really dangerous. Ensure you disable javascript before going anywhere or else you might end up being banned from freenode for spamming!" |
| 00:44.30 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by DocScrutinizer51 |
| 00:45.20 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:45.22 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:45.25 | paul-trigger | "Beware, due to the recent spammers' attacks visiting URLs might be really dangerous. Ensure you disable javascript before going anywhere or else you might end up being banned from freenode for spamming!" |
| 00:45.29 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 00:45.33 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by DocScrutinizer51 |
| 00:46.09 | *** join/#openmoko qhb (n=unyrwl@ool-44c2ae70.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 00:46.18 | DocScrutinizer51 | PaulFertser: PING |
| 00:46.33 | DocScrutinizer51 | PaulFert`: PIIIING |
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| 00:48.10 | *** mode/#openmoko [-o paul-trigger] by ChanServ |
| 00:50.16 | DocScrutinizer51 | *sigh* http://foo.bar |
| 00:50.17 | paul-trigger | "Beware, due to the recent spammers' attacks visiting URLs might be really dangerous. Ensure you disable javascript before going anywhere or else you might end up being banned from freenode for spamming!" |
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| 04:00.00 | BillK | ran into limits on phonelog - fixed but still cant view/clear last missed call - how? |
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| 06:52.38 | PaulFertser | Whatever, disabled the triggers |
| 06:56.19 | PaulFertser | I'd still prefer to have a little spam and some extra +R -R toggling to having the channel +R all the time. Of course big silly warning for silly people is not useful. But even with that i'd not say it doubles the spam. Compare the amount of spam that would be here with -R all the time to that you saw with the silly warning. |
| 06:56.24 | PaulFertser | ndnihil: ^^^ |
| 06:58.00 | PaulFertser | And nprice is just mean, it's not our fault we do not use any decent irc bot (eggdrop?) :/ |
| 07:06.29 | PaulFertser | :| |
| 07:06.35 | *** mode/#openmoko [-v PaulFertser] by PaulFertser |
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| 09:02.06 | BadZad | hello |
| 09:02.35 | BadZad | i use the shr-distribution |
| 09:03.05 | BadZad | how can i prevent it to turn my leds of in suspend mode? |
| 09:03.16 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFert`: I'm fine with the +R bot. Just remove the warning post please. Then go -R again please |
| 09:03.41 | BadZad | i dont even know which instance is responsible for suspending |
| 09:03.42 | DocScrutinizer | BadZad: as larsc |
| 09:03.48 | DocScrutinizer | BadZad: ask larsc |
| 09:03.55 | BadZad | ok thx |
| 09:04.19 | DocScrutinizer | larsc: ^^^ |
| 09:05.32 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: well, if you think that's still desirable... |
| 09:05.37 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by PaulFertser |
| 09:06.32 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: yup. of course only if you re-enable the triggers :-) |
| 09:06.47 | PaulFertser | http:// |
| 09:07.16 | PaulFertser | i got deoped |
| 09:07.50 | *** mode/#openmoko [+o paul-trigger] by ChanServ |
| 09:08.13 | PaulFertser | http:// |
| 09:08.13 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 09:09.14 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 09:09.53 | DocScrutinizer | http:// http:// http:// http:// http:// http:// http:// http:// http:// http:// http:// |
| 09:09.53 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 09:10.55 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 09:11.35 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: thanks :-) |
| 09:12.50 | *** mode/#openmoko [-o DocScrutinizer] by ChanServ |
| 09:13.12 | *** mode/#openmoko [-o PaulFertser] by ChanServ |
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| 09:36.14 | DocScrutinizer | larsc: ping |
| 09:36.52 | larsc | pong |
| 09:37.27 | DocScrutinizer | larsc: see badzad question above. though he left meanwhile |
| 09:37.50 | larsc | DocScrutinizer: he queried me |
| 09:38.27 | DocScrutinizer | ooh too bad. I'd be interested in thr A as well |
| 09:39.03 | larsc | depends on your kernel version |
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| 11:02.46 | tomcatek | is SHR:U safew to upgrade? |
| 11:02.57 | tomcatek | s/safew/safe |
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| 11:27.08 | badcloud | anyone know how to get the "Loading" notification in the home screen in shr-u? |
| 11:27.49 | badcloud | the one that is displayed right after selecting one of the desktop items |
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| 11:50.49 | zem_ | hi |
| 11:51.53 | zem_ | is there a possibility to run a fake gsm modem for fsod on my laptop? |
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| 12:03.23 | panicking | Hi PaulFertser |
| 12:03.36 | panicking | are you going to FOSDEM |
| 12:03.38 | panicking | ? |
| 12:06.58 | PaulFert` | panicking: nope, didn't plan it |
| 12:07.38 | panicking | I'm going there |
| 12:07.46 | panicking | hope that I meet some openmoko guy |
| 12:07.49 | panicking | personally |
| 12:11.32 | DocScrutinizer | zem_: /join #openmoko-cdevel, ask mickey|office |
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| 12:43.34 | gena2x | PaulFertser: inspired by yesterday talk about accamulators, i did some measurements, can we discuss? |
| 12:44.23 | PaulFert` | gena2x: hi :) |
| 12:44.26 | PaulFert` | gena2x: let's try |
| 12:44.49 | gena2x | ok, first i removed main battery. |
| 12:44.56 | gena2x | desoldered small one |
| 12:45.32 | gena2x | get 2 multimeters, one connected between + marked on board and + of battery |
| 12:45.59 | gena2x | second measuring voltage between - and + on board |
| 12:46.20 | gena2x | (i soldered some wires to do this) |
| 12:47.47 | gena2x | now i do following: insert or remove usb and turn NOR-uboot on or off. |
| 12:48.49 | gena2x | charging working as expected: i see current of 5 ua, slowly decreasing to 3 ua after 30 minutes. |
| 12:48.59 | PaulFert` | gena2x: 19-12-2009 01:09:38 > PaulFertser: cz_jc: looks like gta02 lacks protection of bupbat from deep discharge |
| 12:49.03 | PaulFert` | and that is the reason it degraded in almost all devices. |
| 12:50.33 | gena2x | i see that is battery voltage is less than 0,5V current is zero |
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| 12:50.44 | PaulFert` | So the battery is dead i guess. |
| 12:51.14 | gena2x | it is never discarged more that 0.5V |
| 12:51.22 | gena2x | than |
| 12:52.39 | gena2x | mb you know how usual deep discarge should work? |
| 12:52.51 | gena2x | deep discharge protection i mean |
| 12:53.29 | PaulFert` | gena2x: in this particular case i've no idea. But in general the current should be simply cut after reaching the threshold. |
| 12:54.17 | gena2x | this seem work in our case - I see that after reaching in fact 0.37V current stops. |
| 12:54.26 | gena2x | look like discharge protection? |
| 12:54.35 | PaulFert` | gena2x: you're talking about the charging. |
| 12:55.06 | gena2x | oh, yes. I were talking about everything at once :) |
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| 12:55.49 | PaulFert` | gena2x: a good battery should be able to charge to 3V |
| 12:56.10 | gena2x | about discharging - i see that on discharge current flow is zero than battery reach 0.48 Volts |
| 12:56.20 | gena2x | It is charged |
| 12:56.35 | PaulFert` | battery's dead |
| 12:57.09 | DocScrutinizer51 | errr? |
| 12:57.12 | PaulFert` | gena2x: i mean it was deeply discharged several times while the device was waiting for you to use it. |
| 12:57.16 | PaulFert` | DocScrutinizer51: backup battery |
| 12:57.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | checks backscroll |
| 12:57.24 | DocScrutinizer51 | aaah |
| 12:58.14 | gena2x | can i check this in this way - charge it in openmoko, than add load to have 5ua current and measure how long it will last? |
| 12:58.33 | gena2x | usual resistor as a load |
| 12:58.34 | DocScrutinizer51 | well seems quite are share of those is seriously borked |
| 12:58.56 | DocScrutinizer51 | s/are /a / |
| 12:58.59 | PaulFert` | gena2x: it should be charged to 3V first. And i guess you battery's dead already. |
| 12:59.17 | PaulFert` | DocScrutinizer51: my guess is they got dead due to uncontrolled discharge. |
| 12:59.19 | gena2x | i just want to be sure |
| 12:59.29 | DocScrutinizer51 | gena2x: sounds quite reasonable |
| 12:59.57 | gena2x | ok, so i'll try this first to see if battery dead |
| 13:00.40 | DocScrutinizer51 | PaulFert`: a bupbat *ought* be immune to deep discharge |
| 13:00.41 | PaulFert` | DocScrutinizer51: how? |
| 13:00.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | it's a completely different cell chemistry obviously |
| 13:01.18 | PaulFert` | I haven't read the datasheet for this particular battery yet. |
| 13:01.23 | DocScrutinizer51 | and you can't stop a bupbat from deep discharge usually |
| 13:01.42 | gena2x | i am reading spec for battery |
| 13:01.49 | DocScrutinizer51 | nevertheless see above |
| 13:02.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | chargemax is some 2V4 to 2V8 iirc |
| 13:02.33 | gena2x | it says 'excellent over discharge characteristics' |
| 13:04.03 | gena2x | if i don't miss anything, it is 628-HB414-IV01E (only appropriate thing in Werner list of gta02-core parts) |
| 13:04.23 | DocScrutinizer51 | gena2x: I recently sent a few dozen spare to cz_jc. No reports yet if they work for him. Anyway if you ever feel like replacing - just query me |
| 13:04.53 | PaulFert` | DocScrutinizer51: pcf50633 allows either 2.5 or 3V to charge backup bat. |
| 13:05.09 | DocScrutinizer51 | ok |
| 13:06.07 | PaulFert` | gena2x: there's also a BOM for gta02 available. http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/schematics/GTA02/BOM/BOM.xls |
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| 13:06.20 | gena2x | also, in spec for battery: charging voltage 1.8-3.3V |
| 13:06.29 | gena2x | thanks, i'll check now |
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| 13:15.08 | gena2x | yes, it's in list. |
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| 13:59.54 | Broam | Morning all |
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| 14:06.49 | idarwin | Somebody (Joerg?) said that the battery-low-won't-charge problem is solved in a7 hardware. Is this something that can be retrofitted to a5 hardware, similar to the buzz fix? |
| 14:07.28 | DocScrutinizer | yep it can |
| 14:09.28 | DocScrutinizer | just change the buffer cap which is already retrofitted to a 100uF type |
| 14:09.38 | idarwin | that's good news, thanks. |
| 14:10.03 | DocScrutinizer | welcome |
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| 14:11.22 | SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: battery - http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Mobile-Phone-Battery-Charger/dp/B001AHU6QU ? |
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| 14:11.28 | SpeedEvil | hmm |
| 14:11.30 | DocScrutinizer | idarwin: please note I'm talking mere hypothetics here. No one ever has tested if it actually pans out |
| 14:12.15 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: huh? |
| 14:12.22 | SpeedEvil | These things will not charge a totally dead battery though - it needs some voltage so they can work out which way round it is |
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| 14:12.24 | SpeedEvil | AIUI |
| 14:12.40 | SpeedEvil | other way round battery will not charge |
| 14:13.10 | idarwin | Right, I have one of those and have hd to use it more times than I'd like |
| 14:13.25 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 14:13.41 | SpeedEvil | yeah - if it's regular... |
| 14:13.52 | DocScrutinizer | I once seen one of those. Looked *really* scary |
| 14:13.53 | idarwin | it does the job but is a bit ungainly and yes, it needs a few joules left to light an LED so you know if it's the right way around. |
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| 14:14.39 | DocScrutinizer | and also looked like it's a diode bridge, a C for current reduction, and some plastics |
| 14:15.00 | DocScrutinizer | real shock hazard |
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| 14:19.47 | idarwin | It has two little claws that can be spread out to match the size of the battery and you have to sort of land the battery on the claws to make contact, so it can do any battery (ISTR doing my blackberry too once, I was using it as a flashlight and totally killed the battery on it, which I thought only FR up to A5 was able to do :-)) |
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| 14:40.33 | Broam | idarwin: I've got an A7, and I'm not sure the fix is in, but then again I'm wrestling with what looks like a corrupted distro on SD |
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| 14:42.56 | Broam | yeah, this card is toast. |
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| 14:45.09 | DocScrutinizer | Broam: A7 *is* fixed |
| 14:46.08 | Broam | DocScrutinizer: ok. Haven't tested it, mainly because I was horribly paranoid about losing the battery...I don't see the light come on when I plug in, though--not until SHR picks it up |
| 14:46.38 | DocScrutinizer | Broam: please don't confuse uBoot bootloader issues with wont-boot-at-all of A5 |
| 14:48.01 | Broam | DocScrutinizer: I'm talking about battery charging... |
| 14:48.13 | DocScrutinizer | Broam: me too |
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| 14:52.06 | DocScrutinizer | Broam: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_(GTA02)_Battery#Make_sure_your_battery_never_discharges_completely. |
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| 14:58.22 | Broam | reading |
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| 15:01.31 | DocScrutinizer | http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/schematics/GTA02/Schematics_Freerunner-GTA02_A5-A7cumulative_public_RC0.pdf |
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| 15:01.47 | DocScrutinizer | A5 : C1767 =4.7uF |
| 15:01.48 | DocScrutinizer | A6 : C1767=47uF |
| 15:01.50 | DocScrutinizer | A7 : C1767=100uF |
| 15:02.33 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 15:03.23 | Broam | DocScrutinizer: aha. At any rate--do you know if SHR fscks on boot? |
| 15:04.02 | DocScrutinizer | doesn't |
| 15:06.56 | Broam | DocScrutinizer: I'm having a lot of issues after I had an application lock up, and then suspend locked up, and I ended up having to pull the battery (yay unstable). Pulling the uSD out and fscking it on my Ubuntu box says it's clean. Is it best to just reformat & reinstall at this point? |
| 15:07.49 | Broam | DocScrutinizer I'm assuming that something got corrupted |
| 15:08.11 | lindi- | Broam: compare against backups? |
| 15:08.25 | Broam | lindi-: I don't have any backups, but thankfully all contacts are on SIM |
| 15:08.50 | lindi- | Broam: hard to debug then |
| 15:08.50 | Broam | lindi-: I was basically just stoked I could use the thing as a phone (after GSM-11 flash) |
| 15:08.53 | DocScrutinizer | well if it doesn't boot anymore then yes, probably just reinstalling is best. Though I fail to see what might have caused that failure to boot if there's no errors in fs |
| 15:09.15 | Broam | DocScrutinizer: it boots, but applications hang a lot more often than they did beforehand |
| 15:09.58 | Broam | DocScrutinizer: to make things worse--this is the much-maligned Kingston uSD card that didn't work until recent revisions of uboot/qi |
| 15:10.06 | Broam | I'm just gonna redo it on another brand |
| 15:10.16 | DocScrutinizer | I'd suggest to just unpack to rootfs to the uSD without new formatting prior to that. maybe even create a backup of the old conjtent |
| 15:10.41 | Broam | DocScrutinizer: might not be a bad idea. I wonder if the swap space is corrupt--how could one go about checking that? |
| 15:10.56 | Broam | Made 64MB swapfile on uSD |
| 15:11.00 | DocScrutinizer | yeah IO errors may cause hangs. copy kingston to another card |
| 15:11.09 | DocScrutinizer | reformat won't help |
| 15:11.42 | Broam | backing up. |
| 15:11.43 | DocScrutinizer | swapoff? |
| 15:12.27 | Broam | DocScrutinizer: I could, but the stability of the phone improved immensely with it on |
| 15:12.38 | Broam | DocScrutinizer: oomkiller was a little less trigger happy |
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| 15:22.32 | Broam | ...my cat is now sitting on my sd reader. |
| 15:22.55 | Broam | I hope she doesn't disrupt the tarchiving process. |
| 15:23.51 | Broam | DocScrutinizer: would this cause a hang: fe091331-6ca8-4e82-b572-550c9fc5ea0d/home/root/.e/e/config/illume-shr/exehist.cfg: Cannot stat: Input/output error |
| 15:24.17 | Broam | (that's from tar) |
| 15:24.47 | DocScrutinizer | no idea. if any doubt I'd vote for YES |
| 15:25.47 | Broam | DocScrutinizer: thoguht so. Going to reinstall latest shr-unstable from scratch on a new card. |
| 15:25.54 | Broam | Thanks for your help. |
| 15:27.14 | Broam | I'll take a stab and say that illume probably uses that file quite a bit...that would explain why launching applications is dicey |
| 15:27.19 | Weiss | Broam: openmoko cat, in ur SD reader, fixing ur bitbake? |
| 15:27.50 | Broam | Weiss: I have a FreeRunner A7. I was having issues with my uSD. I thought my Cat caused the I/O error...she didn't. |
| 15:28.19 | Broam | Weiss: the uSD is a Kingston SD-C02G, which has known issues |
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| 15:48.54 | PaulFert` | gena2x: so does jabber.org not work for you as well? |
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| 15:58.43 | Broam | aww. enlightenment sigaborted |
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| 16:01.37 | PBeck | hi |
| 16:03.07 | Broam | hi PBeck |
| 16:04.59 | PBeck | hi Broam |
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| 16:06.50 | Broam | SHR unstable is segfaulting a lot on this install. Wonder what I messed up when I did it |
| 16:10.14 | Broam | I made the swapfile on this machine, not the phone...that could be it |
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| 16:28.11 | PaulFert` | Guys, please can anybody confirm if jabber.org XMPP working for you? |
| 16:37.48 | PaulFert` | Hm, it works but only without ssl |
| 16:37.51 | PaulFert` | And without my roster |
| 16:44.29 | jaj | throws an ejabberd at PaulFert` |
| 16:46.28 | PaulFert` | jaj: you know what? jabber.org had experienced instability problems for long time with ejabberd, ejabberd developers were actively participating but couldn't help. Now they're switching to a proprietary solution even. |
| 16:47.12 | PaulFert` | jaj: and anyway i've no private server and changing one's address is not fast and easy (to contact all the peers etc) and i can't even get my roster atm. |
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| 17:18.26 | Broam | ugh. |
| 17:18.36 | Broam | can't get SHR to behave |
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| 17:24.35 | slaxxer | r6.1 kernel? |
| 17:24.59 | slaxxer | i had to use r7 |
| 17:25.42 | Broam | latest testing image |
| 17:25.52 | Broam | from 15 jan this year |
| 17:26.12 | Broam | thankfully I made 2 usd cards of it |
| 17:27.34 | DocScrutinizer | suggests SHR-testing for working phone. And complaining about SHR-U madness should got to #openmoko-cdevel rather than here |
| 17:28.34 | JaMa | but r6.1 kernel is that one from shr-t without debug... |
| 17:29.06 | DocScrutinizer | ~lart NODEBUG |
| 17:29.06 | apt | sends a legion of lawyers after NODEBUG's head |
| 17:30.06 | DocScrutinizer | ~kill nopreemt |
| 17:30.07 | apt | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized meson gun at nopreemt |
| 17:30.22 | Broam | I can do that DocScrutinizer |
| 17:30.49 | Broam | I'm definitely using -testing though. |
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| 17:31.22 | DocScrutinizer | testing should NOT have a nodebug-messed-up kernel afaik |
| 17:32.30 | JaMa | DocScrutinizer: I agree.. and all changes to shr-t should stay at least 14 days in shr-u for "testing".. but I'm not maintainer of shr-t.. |
| 17:32.44 | DocScrutinizer | anyway I suggest you /join #openmoko-cdevel to spoil SHR devels' weekend ;-) |
| 17:34.00 | Broam | DocScrutinizer: out of...sheer curiosity, how does one go about identifying make/model of sd card inside linux? I can't figure out this re-branded sandisk make/model...the kingston is behaving better sadly |
| 17:34.27 | DocScrutinizer | no idea |
| 17:34.37 | Broam | keeps looking |
| 17:34.41 | Broam | Thanks for all your help, DocScrutinizer |
| 17:34.48 | DocScrutinizer | yw |
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| 17:36.58 | SpeedEvil | look in dmesg |
| 17:37.44 | SpeedEvil | IIRC there is a 4 byte record indicating such - which is partially printed out when the sd driver is loaded |
| 17:38.13 | Broam | SpeedEvil: even with usb->sd reader? |
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| 17:38.39 | SpeedEvil | no |
| 17:38.50 | Broam | SpeedEvil: gotta dig up the Eeepc then :( |
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| 17:42.15 | groszek | hm, still the same server |
| 17:42.24 | groszek | how about a small cup of ddos on the spamer? ;-) |
| 17:42.32 | DocScrutinizer | huh??? |
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| 17:42.42 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 17:42.45 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 17:42.47 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 17:42.50 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 17:42.52 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 17:42.58 | ndnihil | ugh |
| 17:42.58 | DocScrutinizer | ICMP attack? |
| 17:43.22 | DocScrutinizer | errr CTCP |
| 17:43.26 | ndnihil | you can't ddos all 1500 idiots who clicked on the link |
| 17:43.55 | groszek | but when the server gets down, the idiots won't reconnect anymore |
| 17:44.02 | DocScrutinizer | ndnihil: err? please elaborate |
| 17:44.15 | groszek | ctcp is not an attack, it's just privmsg/notice with \x01 on the beginning and end of the message |
| 17:44.20 | groszek | not really different from channel message |
| 17:44.23 | ndnihil | gee, really? |
| 17:44.31 | groszek | yes. |
| 17:44.37 | ndnihil | stfu noob |
| 17:44.48 | ndnihil | shakes his head and wanders off |
| 17:44.54 | groszek | right |
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| 17:45.49 | PaulFert` | ndnihil: if you're an irc pro, can you probably provide us with decent eggdrop configuration to deal with attack in a more sane way? |
| 17:46.10 | ndnihil | I havent done eggdrops for quite some time |
| 17:46.16 | ndnihil | I only use one bot these days |
| 17:46.20 | ndnihil | and its one I wrote myself |
| 17:46.39 | groszek | impressive |
| 17:46.47 | ndnihil | however, all you need to do is google for delayed +v in a moderated channel |
| 17:46.51 | ndnihil | it'll shut most of this crap up |
| 17:47.22 | DocScrutinizer | damn, could anybody paste me the last few join-notifications please |
| 17:47.59 | ndnihil | started off on efnet in the 90's |
| 17:50.58 | DocScrutinizer | c'mon nobody here who could paste me a few joinmsgs back to three before CTCP spam? |
| 17:51.18 | ndnihil | 11:35 -!- everslick [n=clemens@91-114-184-187.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has |
| 17:51.18 | ndnihil | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:51.24 | ndnihil | 11:38 -!- UberNeo [n=UberNeo@122.181.132.66] has joined #openmoko |
| 17:51.29 | ndnihil | 11:41 -!- cdcedizikeki [n=vkornmbu@78.166.245.61] has joined #openmoko |
| 17:51.50 | DocScrutinizer | k, many thanks |
| 17:52.10 | ndnihil | your client doesnt keep a running buffer? |
| 17:52.36 | DocScrutinizer | thought it does, but chanlog is clean like the primary tab |
| 17:52.58 | ndnihil | weird, I thought all clients did that these days |
| 17:54.57 | ndnihil | there's also a feature in services that prevents you from joining channels unless you're registered |
| 17:55.06 | ndnihil | but freenode opers would have to implement that |
| 17:55.41 | DocScrutinizer | that's +r but we prefer +R here |
| 17:56.28 | UberNeo | ndnihil, what does these messages with the IP shows |
| 17:56.34 | DocScrutinizer | paul-trigger actually works quite good, courtesy PaulFert` |
| 17:57.11 | DocScrutinizer | tssss he clicked on the URL :-S |
| 17:57.38 | ndnihil | isn't current with freenode |
| 17:57.42 | DocScrutinizer | or why is he gone? |
| 17:58.07 | ndnihil | only reason I started visiting is because I got the gta02 |
| 17:58.55 | DocScrutinizer | So if uberneo got klined I guess it will take a while until he shows up here again |
| 17:59.11 | ndnihil | that wasnt a kline message |
| 17:59.14 | ndnihil | just standard quit |
| 17:59.29 | DocScrutinizer | I had no message at all |
| 17:59.36 | ndnihil | 11:56 -!- UberNeo [n=UberNeo@122.181.132.66] has quit ["Leaving"] |
| 17:59.43 | DocScrutinizer | as you probably have guessed so far |
| 17:59.46 | Broam | (12:41:34 PM) cdcedizikeki left the room (quit: K-lined). |
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| 18:01.33 | DocScrutinizer | heh so it was cdcedizkovsky who started the spam |
| 18:01.36 | ThibG | huh? Can really javascript alone do that? |
| 18:01.47 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 18:02.48 | ThibG | I thought the only way to send data was XHR/AJAX |
| 18:03.13 | DocScrutinizer | it does a simple HTML-POST |
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| 18:03.48 | Broam | I will say that the link doesn't work perfectly in Midori |
| 18:04.05 | ThibG | so, it has to use a gateway, hasn't it? |
| 18:04.27 | DocScrutinizer | gateway? huh? |
| 18:04.30 | ThibG | I mean |
| 18:04.42 | ndnihil | the eggdrop command is +autovoice <N> |
| 18:04.46 | Broam | it's more than just a gnaa shock site I take. |
| 18:05.21 | ThibG | there is no way to connect to IRC by sending a HTTP request? |
| 18:05.31 | DocScrutinizer | ndnihil: where you seen that? |
| 18:05.33 | Broam | shot of jaq has an irc client on their page |
| 18:05.36 | Broam | I think |
| 18:05.40 | ndnihil | http://www.egghelp.org/commands/channels.htm |
| 18:05.40 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 18:06.02 | SpeedEvil | ThibG: yes there is. This is the problem. |
| 18:06.14 | SpeedEvil | ThibG: the server ignores the first POST line |
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| 18:06.32 | ThibG | oh, I see |
| 18:06.39 | SpeedEvil | ThibG: So a form submission can login to IRC and paste |
| 18:06.41 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 18:08.23 | gena2x | PaulFert`: jabber.org works here both ssl/tls and plain |
| 18:08.38 | ThibG | I have to go, thanks |
| 18:09.25 | Broam | I'm out for now |
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| 18:22.28 | DocScrutinizer | ndnihil: eggdrop seems cool (didn't know it) - alas we are 'short of' servers to run such a bot on them |
| 18:22.56 | PaulFert` | gena2x: nice, jabber.org doesn't allow to reconnect me, 500 internal server error :| |
| 18:23.48 | gena2x | PaulFert`: really had to check from other ip :) |
| 18:24.15 | ndnihil | doc: they were pretty cool back in the day, one of the few I remember that are still around |
| 18:24.17 | gena2x | PaulFert`: i'm sure that in case of multiply day troubles, they'll write something |
| 18:25.00 | gena2x | PaulFert`: i can forward port for you if you want. |
| 18:25.24 | PaulFert` | gena2x: try reconnecting right now, you'll see |
| 18:25.50 | gena2x | PaulFert`: ok |
| 18:25.56 | gena2x | PaulFert`: pidgin |
| 18:26.13 | gena2x | PaulFert`: ssl on |
| 18:26.36 | gena2x | PaulFert`: can you telnel thier port? |
| 18:26.43 | gena2x | PaulFert`: telnel |
| 18:26.49 | PaulFert` | gena2x: ssl for starttls or "legacy ssl"? |
| 18:26.57 | gena2x | PaulFert`: :))) telneT |
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| 18:28.02 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 18:28.27 | gena2x | PaulFert`: i'm unsure. just checkbox 'ТÑебоваÑÑ SSL/TLS' |
| 18:28.43 | gena2x | lol. for more info - go link :) |
| 18:29.03 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 18:29.06 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 18:29.08 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 18:29.27 | DocScrutinizer | 4DO NOT CLICK THAT LINK |
| 18:29.44 | DocScrutinizer | just in case |
| 18:29.47 | DocScrutinizer | :-) |
| 18:30.30 | ndnihil | kinda funny how that's an exact copy of the wallop with different url |
| 18:30.38 | ndnihil | 15:30 -tomaw(i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw)- [Global Notice] Hi all. It seems |
| 18:30.38 | ndnihil | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.38 | ndnihil | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.38 | ndnihil | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.40 | ndnihil | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.41 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 18:30.44 | ndnihil | ^the legitimate message |
| 18:30.53 | zem_ | DocScrutinizer: I almost did! *gg* |
| 18:30.58 | gena2x | be careful on copy |
| 18:31.20 | gena2x | i were banned yesterday for copying that link from my logs |
| 18:31.30 | ndnihil | that's a different link/message |
| 18:31.37 | ndnihil | that's the legitimate one sent out by freenode staff |
| 18:31.42 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
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| 18:44.15 | DocScrutinizer-8 | x6d5e4 |
| 18:44.15 | DocScrutinizer | foooobar |
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| 18:44.17 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 18:45.18 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 18:45.21 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 18:45.23 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 18:46.08 | gena2x | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:47.51 | groszek | hm, isn't there channel mode blocking ctcp's sent to channel? |
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| 18:50.20 | ndnihil | theres a umode, but not a channel mode |
| 18:50.56 | ndnihil | http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml |
| 18:50.56 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 18:51.05 | ndnihil | there's a list of user and channel modes |
| 18:51.56 | groszek | right, it's not unreal :-/ |
| 18:51.57 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 18:52.04 | groszek | wish they'd change ircd to something better |
| 18:53.08 | ndnihil | heh, getting opers to upgrade ircd/services isn't very likely |
| 18:53.14 | ndnihil | we dont like upgrading |
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| 18:53.40 | ndnihil | I still run an ircd from 2003 on the one I oper |
| 18:54.06 | groszek | they are changing ircd. but again not to anything good, but instead another custom one |
| 18:54.10 | ndnihil | s/ircd/ircd+services/ |
| 18:54.14 | ndnihil | stabs apt |
| 18:54.28 | groszek | heh, didn't update for 7 years, or the program which has 7 years |
| 18:55.00 | ndnihil | I used an old ircii with script from the late 90's until I upgraded to irssi a few years back |
| 18:55.44 | ndnihil | and even then, I configured irssi to mimic ircii |
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| 19:09.27 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
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| 19:11.05 | Broam | whee |
| 19:11.33 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 19:11.36 | PaulFertser | Do not press the link! |
| 19:13.58 | Broam | PaulFertser: the bot's a little slow on the draw, but it looks like it helps |
| 19:15.28 | PaulFertser | Broam: the bot unfortunately disables it twice when once is enough. But i do not feel like getting into installing and configuring eggdrop right atm :| |
| 19:16.04 | Broam | looks like my om problems have subsided for a while... |
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| 20:46.30 | adolf | Hi is the hardware still available? |
| 20:46.41 | lindi- | adolf: you can still buy it yes |
| 20:49.38 | adolf | lindi-: is it still being manufactured, if not what happens with warranty if something goes wrong? |
| 20:49.59 | lindi- | adolf: i don't think any new batches will be made |
| 20:50.13 | lindi- | adolf: this is a development board, there is really no warranty anyway |
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| 20:50.14 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 20:50.38 | lindi- | adolf: if it is completely dead on arrival you will probably get a new one |
| 20:51.15 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 20:51.18 | *** mode/#openmoko [+R] by paul-trigger |
| 20:51.20 | *** mode/#openmoko [-R] by paul-trigger |
| 20:51.37 | adolf | lindi-: thanks, would like to get one, will look on the web |
| 20:51.50 | lindi- | adolf: what kind of background do you have? |
| 20:53.12 | adolf | lindi-: I am a systems/ apllication developer and also do some embedded programming and as a hobby build some micro-controller stuff |
| 20:53.25 | PaulFert` | Cool enough :D |
| 20:53.45 | PaulFert` | adolf: you know about the freerunner's shortcomings, do not you? |
| 20:54.34 | gena2x | you have a chances to like it |
| 20:54.49 | adolf | PaulFert': hardware or software? |
| 20:55.03 | PaulFert` | adolf: both |
| 20:55.07 | lindi- | both :) |
| 20:55.12 | PaulFert` | :) |
| 20:55.17 | gena2x | it have nice bunch of problems to solve |
| 20:56.23 | adolf | Can I ssh from it to my box? |
| 20:56.31 | gena2x | yes |
| 20:56.43 | adolf | :) |
| 20:56.46 | gena2x | via bluetooth, wifi or usb |
| 20:57.04 | gena2x | or gprs i think. |
| 20:57.18 | lindi- | yep, i've done all those foure |
| 20:57.21 | lindi- | s/foure/four/ |
| 20:57.28 | gena2x | you can get debian on box :) |
| 20:57.50 | adolf | nice, I was/ am interested in it to use it to run some ssh command remotely, not really interested inm making calls |
| 20:57.56 | PaulFert` | adolf: since you can solder i suggest you get A6 (it's cheaper) and do the buzz-fix yourself. |
| 20:58.15 | PaulFert` | Ah, so you even do not need GSM voice calls, even better. Get an A6. |
| 20:58.16 | adolf | price? |
| 20:58.26 | gena2x | all command-line stuff is usual linux environment |
| 20:59.15 | adolf | PaulFert': special smd equipment required? |
| 20:59.19 | PaulFert` | adolf: various disris sell for different price, do you own research, list of distributors is somewhere at wiki.openmoko.org |
| 20:59.51 | adolf | will do own research, thanks |
| 21:00.02 | PaulFert` | adolf: well, any ~small soldering iron is ok. |
| 21:00.12 | PaulFert` | adolf: the one you can desolder 0402 with. |
| 21:00.51 | adolf | PaulFert': got that ;) |
| 21:01.41 | PaulFert` | adolf: btw, it has an accessible SPI and UART on pcb testpoints. |
| 21:02.21 | PaulFert` | And an externally accessible powered USB host. |
| 21:03.32 | adolf | PaulFert': I remeber they also had an extra development board to flash it, is that really necessary ? |
| 21:03.37 | PaulFert` | adolf: no |
| 21:03.54 | PaulFert` | adolf: freerunner has NOR memory which is write-protected, you can always boot from it. |
| 21:04.06 | PaulFert` | adolf: debug board is only necessary for serial console and JTAG. |
| 21:04.28 | PaulFert` | adolf: you can also get serial console by soldering directly to UART testpoints, same with JTAG. |
| 21:05.08 | adolf | so I can access it through UART if necessary from desktop? |
| 21:05.26 | PaulFert` | And in case you want to reflash NOR it's enough to ensure you have a working bootloader on NAND and then short one TP to the ground to turn off write-protection, boot and flash from the userspace. |
| 21:06.11 | adolf | Cool |
| 21:06.16 | gena2x | = devboard it is only useful if you plan do complicated kernel development |
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| 21:06.42 | adolf | What do you see as complicated kernel dev? |
| 21:07.17 | adolf | sorry, got to go baybe crying, back soon |
| 21:07.54 | PaulFert` | adolf: if you need JTAG to debug bootloader/kernel problems, then you probably need a debug board. |
| 21:08.12 | lindi- | gena2x: or debug |
| 21:08.45 | PaulFert` | Well, serial console is nice to have as well. But if he doesn't plan to use it as a portable device, he can just solder to uart TPs directly. |
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| 21:09.59 | gena2x | lindi-: you mean kernel debug? or it can help with user-space applications? |
| 21:10.31 | lindi- | gena2x: kernel or boot loader debugging mostly yes |
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| 21:10.39 | lindi- | gena2x: but surely it can be used with userspace too |
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| 21:15.23 | adolf | Well to be more exact, I sometimes get calls from the office while on lunch etc and mostly all that needs to be done is to ssh into the server at the office and run a cli scripto or something that simple and a netbook is just to bulky to put in my pocket |
| 21:15.56 | adolf | Can I use the openmoko via gprs for this purpose? |
| 21:16.28 | adolf | What is the keyboard interface like from your personal experience? |
| 21:17.05 | SpeedEvil | ssh can be done - though not on a call. |
| 21:17.16 | SpeedEvil | a bt keyb can be used - there are quite small ones. |
| 21:17.24 | SpeedEvil | I haven't used the onscreen keyb |
| 21:18.27 | adolf | Has any one used those projected BT keyboards with the openmoko? |
| 21:19.24 | Weiss | I've used the on-screen keyboard for basic SSH stuff, Mutt, screen, irssi etc.. it works - quite painful as you'd expect, but can be done |
| 21:20.25 | adolf | what about skype over WiFi, is there a working skyp for openmoko |
| 21:22.38 | DocScrutinizer | never will be |
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| 21:23.07 | Weiss | x86_64 Skype is hard enough :( |
| 21:23.19 | gena2x | lindi-: hm... cool. never thought in this way. but i think you can attach to something like gdbserver. |
| 21:23.32 | mjr | skype is a quite proprietary system, and they're not interested |
| 21:23.44 | panicking | There is a version for android |
| 21:23.45 | mjr | you can do open voip of course |
| 21:23.50 | panicking | I have tested and work |
| 21:23.54 | panicking | but only the chat part |
| 21:23.56 | gena2x | lindi-: and archive same effect |
| 21:24.21 | mjr | well, install android and maybe it works (and maybe not) |
| 21:25.02 | gena2x | DocScrutinizer: in practice - yes, but in theory - who knows? 10 years ago nobody can even imagine that sun will publish solaris and java under free license... |
| 21:25.03 | mjr | but going for the phone whose main attraction is that it's as free in it's kernel/userspace as can be, asking first questions about skype seems weird |
| 21:25.21 | adolf | is GSM voice not working at all? |
| 21:25.27 | mjr | it is |
| 21:26.02 | lindi- | gena2x: whole java is not free |
| 21:26.04 | DocScrutinizer | (<mjr> skype is a quite proprietary system) the euphemism of the week - LOL |
| 21:27.04 | DocScrutinizer | gena2x: ebay paid 3 |
| 21:27.12 | DocScrutinizer | $3 bilion |
| 21:27.17 | DocScrutinizer | for skype |
| 21:27.19 | DocScrutinizer | or 4 |
| 21:27.41 | DocScrutinizer | do you think they ever go to give that away for free? |
| 21:27.53 | gena2x | adolf: many people are using it as phone, so it mostly works, with some shortcomings. |
| 21:28.02 | lindi- | we can only hope we get something similar as free software |
| 21:28.37 | DocScrutinizer | what's wrong with SIP? |
| 21:28.52 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer: doesn't work through my double-NAT |
| 21:29.02 | max_posedon | lindi-, sip+astetisk |
| 21:29.12 | lindi- | max_posedon: yes, asterisk |
| 21:29.16 | max_posedon | lindi-, it works! |
| 21:29.18 | DocScrutinizer | too bad for your double RAT err NAT then |
| 21:29.38 | max_posedon | just not eith all nats |
| 21:29.40 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer: doesn't really help :) |
| 21:30.01 | DocScrutinizer | configure your friggin NAT correctly |
| 21:30.14 | DocScrutinizer | punch a few holes and here you go |
| 21:30.14 | max_posedon | and always through relay servers |
| 21:30.28 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer: that's what i mean, the selling point of skype is that you don't need to configure your network to use it |
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| 21:31.01 | DocScrutinizer | the selling point of skype is it's for stupid morons |
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| 21:31.06 | PaulFert` | DocScrutinizer++ |
| 21:31.12 | DocScrutinizer | and gives admins a hell of a time |
| 21:31.16 | max_posedon | you aren't houseworker you defenetly can do it) |
| 21:31.25 | gena2x | DocScrutinizer: of course they can. for example if microsoft will write own softphone and preinstall it to windows. |
| 21:31.36 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer: there still should be free software that works for users but is hard for admins :) |
| 21:31.52 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer: it's different discussion entirely if the implementation is nice for admins :) |
| 21:31.54 | max_posedon | gena2x, it names msn |
| 21:32.57 | DocScrutinizer | please don't ask me about skype. Security holes, encrypted binary, and too stupid to get audio right on linux |
| 21:33.14 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer: yes it's non-free software |
| 21:33.18 | DocScrutinizer | I simply refuse to talk about that pile of shit any longer |
| 21:33.21 | gena2x | or, guys. can someone recommend me best softphone to try - i never really used any one. |
| 21:33.38 | lindi- | my point is just that SIP is not the answer unfortunately |
| 21:33.51 | DocScrutinizer | try twinkle |
| 21:34.02 | gena2x | and today want to try something on frerunner via wifi. |
| 21:34.15 | DocScrutinizer | ooh on FR |
| 21:34.20 | max_posedon | gena2x, linphone works on neo for example |
| 21:34.27 | max_posedon | even ÐегаÑон use sip |
| 21:34.38 | DocScrutinizer | yeah I heard it allegedly works |
| 21:34.42 | DocScrutinizer | somewhat |
| 21:34.54 | max_posedon | gena2x, this example for you) |
| 21:35.22 | gena2x | ok, i'll try. i have double NAT case, but hope it will work |
| 21:35.59 | gena2x | is it easy register number? can i call ordinary phones? |
| 21:36.25 | lindi- | at least my SIP registrar does not support encryption |
| 21:36.33 | lindi- | but i can call ordinary phones |
| 21:36.37 | DocScrutinizer | gena2x: do you know *any* service that allows *free* calls to landline phones? |
| 21:37.07 | gena2x | ammmmm.... |
| 21:37.30 | mjr | zrtp (which is mostly what you'd want to use with sip) is negotiated on the rtp transport level, does the registrar have much to do with it? |
| 21:37.58 | mjr | (well, of course if you call ordinary phones through them, but how encrypted is it for the rest of the way anyway :) |
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| 21:38.51 | DocScrutinizer | mjr: nothing to do with registrar |
| 21:39.06 | DocScrutinizer | ZRTP will work as long as both UA support it |
| 21:39.14 | mjr | yeah that's what I thought |
| 21:39.47 | DocScrutinizer | twinkle was first implementation of ZRTP and maybe still is the only integrated one |
| 21:39.59 | mjr | yeah that's why I use it ;) |
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| 21:40.42 | mjr | (for the very rare occasion I'd want to use a voip thingy anyway) |
| 21:42.04 | gena2x | ok, landline is clear. in fact it's better to read this topic, and then ask questions :) |
| 21:48.05 | PaulFert` | "I see the bathroom is clear. I think that someone is near. Im sure that someone is following me. Again." |
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| 21:50.09 | gena2x | xfce4 look cool on freerunner :) |
| 21:50.14 | gena2x | and even usable |
| 21:50.41 | adolf | cool, I am using xfce4 on my desktop |
| 21:51.24 | gena2x | i'm only on notebook. all other places have wmaker installed. |
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| 22:10.27 | zem_ | still has a fvwm on all his machines except the freerunner |
| 22:10.38 | zem_ | but this is only a matter of time |
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| 22:30.43 | Wonka | yeah, nice try. |
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| 22:42.57 | Psi_ | are there people working on getting latest shr images for gta01 or is it kinda dead atm? |
| 22:45.07 | SpeedEvil | I've been idly wondering -I need to reflash something onto my neo |
| 22:45.10 | SpeedEvil | but... |
| 22:47.05 | JaMa | Psi_: I don't know about any shr dev having gta01.. |
| 22:47.20 | Psi_ | ah, so thats the problem |
| 22:48.13 | JaMa | if you can build it localy from shr/unstable branch, test it, report it, fix possible bugs.. it would be no problem to start building gta01 images again regulary |
| 22:50.02 | Psi_ | ive been thinking about giving it a go |
| 22:50.53 | Psi_ | only C experience i have tho, is from programming microcontrollers |
| 22:51.24 | Psi_ | im really a pascal/delphi/lazarus programmer |
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