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04:20.48*** topic/#openmoko is Users of Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware | WikiReader users, please join #openmoko-wikireader | Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org + http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | Make sure to check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 | SHR images: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ | hackable:1 rev5 is out !
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04:52.05*** topic/#openmoko is Users of Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware | WikiReader users, please join #openmoko-wikireader | Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org + http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | Make sure to check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 | SHR images: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ | hackable:1 rev5 is out !
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05:32.52naquanshr build host 's still not on, :(
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06:24.33JaMa|Offnaquan: seems working now
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06:45.07naquanJaMa|Off: i see, thank you.
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07:06.12naquananyone else has problem with SHR unstable 20100115? the three button "contact" "messages" and "dialer" didn't show up for me.
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08:01.51naquanhi everyone, in SHR is there a way to change the buttons at bottom of screen? version unstable 20100114 & 0115 show 10 buttons at bottom of screen with no text at all :(
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10:26.30Pepehello!
10:27.08Pepedoes anybody know about a vnc software for SHR?
10:27.56PaulFert`Pepe: if there's no packaged, just ask shr guys to add it to the feeds
10:29.50Pepeok thanks :)
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13:08.42Laibsch1How am I supposed to connect to wlan in the SHR image?  I manually turned on wifi, but I don't see any (graphical) way to connect to an AP.  I've verified that the AP is seen with "iwlist scan"
13:09.10JaMa|OffLaibsch: you can try mokonnect
13:10.28LaibschIs that installed by default?
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13:11.22JaMa|OffLaibsch: IIRC yes
13:11.38JaMa|Offbut I've never used that..
13:11.47Laibschused what?
13:11.48JaMa|OffLaibsch: in feeds is also wpa-gui
13:11.52JaMa|Offmokonnect..
13:11.55LaibschOK
13:11.58Laibschwhat do you use?
13:12.18LaibschI think the SHR image, even the lite one, should contain a GUI to connect to Wifi
13:12.21JaMa|OffI have all networks I need manually in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and modified /etc/network/interfaces to read that..
13:12.29LaibschI see
13:15.18H_u_mDoes anyone use a VoIP client on SHR (testing)?
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15:50.50groszekis there a tested way to reflash the very internals of FR to change imei number?
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15:51.39DocScrutinizer51groszek: yes there is a way to change IMEI. But it's top secret :-)
15:51.58groszekhurr hurr, I need it to stop revealing my secrets to my country :P
15:52.29DocScrutinizer51I.E. *I* can do thet. But I won't disclose
15:52.38DocScrutinizer51that even
15:52.47groszek/other than resoldering some tiny weeny elements on mobo?/
15:54.18groszekhrm!
15:55.18DocScrutinizer51yeah. the suggested way to fix IMEI is to send device in to OM repair (which I fear is me for now). It won't include any soldering action, just using factory tools
15:55.54groszekah
15:56.48groszekI'd love to have some firmware burner in crontab, changing my imei every 10 minutes or so :-)
15:58.41DocScrutinizer51nice idea. Alas I'm reluctant to support it, for legal reasons as well as to protect OM customers from theft etc
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16:00.53groszekhrhr ok, I'll try to figure on my own.
16:03.07DocScrutinizer51forget it. Unless you're a devine calypso firmware hacker you'll fail epically
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16:06.10SpeedEvilSee the calypso specs that appeared on wikileaks
16:06.21SpeedEvilbut - you will almost certainly brick your device
16:06.51DocScrutinizer51just so much to shorten your useless efforts: FLUID can't do that for all we know (and even *we* (OM) do not know each detail of calypso nitty gritty)
16:07.17SpeedEvilI assume you don't get unencrypted firmware?
16:07.28groszekhm, it's that 400-or-so-pages document?
16:07.32SpeedEvilyes
16:07.46SpeedEvilthat only covers the hardware, and not the firmware at all
16:07.56DocScrutinizer51hehe
16:07.58groszekhrm, maybe better I'll get my own bts and carry in my backpack
16:08.00DocScrutinizer51have fun
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16:08.36SpeedEvilFor someone skilled at SMD soldering - and embedded devlopment - to extract the firmware - reverse engineering - and ... it is a not impossible task.
16:08.58SpeedEvilbut it's going to take someone skilled in the art at least a few days of work.
16:09.06SpeedEvilMaybe more like a month.
16:09.33groszekhrm, that's bad
16:10.44DocScrutinizer51odds are even then you'll probably not be able to change IMEI
16:11.28DocScrutinizer51afaik all the relevant parts are crypted
16:11.56DocScrutinizer51and you have a hard time to find the encrypting key
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16:12.32groszekall the network login negotiation etc are entirely handled by binary blob in gsm module?
16:13.17DocScrutinizer51the lowerGSM layer are blobs, yes
16:13.53DocScrutinizer51come as blob from TI
16:14.17DocScrutinizer51OM just links them in when building own firmware for calypso
16:15.09DocScrutinizer51well
16:15.14DocScrutinizer51away
16:15.20groszekok thanks for the info
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19:37.32tim_abelli take it the opkg upgrade issues have gone away now?
19:37.43tim_abellabout to upgrade my shr-t
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19:40.44JaMa|Offtim_abell: shr-t should be quite safe..
19:44.57tim_abellbrill, thanks
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20:15.38alabdhello , where to download stable android install file for FR ?
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20:41.18alabdmickeyl: hello are you Michael Trimarchi (aka panicking) ?
20:43.00JaMa|Offalabd: no he is Michael ‘Mickey’ Lauer
20:43.12JaMa|Offalabd: you can see it with /whois mickeyl too
20:43.34alabdJaMa|Off:  have you worked on android on fr ?
20:43.45JaMa|Offalabd: no
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20:46.05alabdanyone else ?
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