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| 00:21.34 | DocScrutinizer | strange enough we got back our beloved apt |
| 00:21.58 | DocScrutinizer | ~botsnack |
| 00:21.58 | apt | DocScrutinizer: thanks |
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| 02:27.34 | Termana | I know the GTA02 recently showed up in Linus' tree - from researching I also found out that the touchscreen driver hadn't been merged - however has the GSM part been merged or is the driver closed for this (more importantly, the GPRS part)? I know the GSM firmware part is closed, but I couldn't find any information regarding the kernel driver. |
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| 02:53.11 | mwester | Termana, the GSM is attached via ordinary serial port, no special driver is required. |
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| 02:56.36 | Termana | mwester - meaning any kernel should be able to use the GPRS functionality? (as long as serial drivers are compiled in I assume) |
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| 02:56.48 | mwester | of course |
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| 02:57.24 | mwester | GPRS and all handling of the GSM is done in user space; no special kernel drivers required at all. |
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| 03:00.26 | lars_ | well, you still need to turn the modem on |
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| 03:01.09 | Serdar | I guess Blu3 has some serious proplems. |
| 03:01.12 | Serdar | problems |
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| 03:04.33 | Termana | So say I install Debian with a mainline kernel onto the GTA02 (obviously disregarding that I would have to patch in touchscreen support before I compiled the kernel), I could use something like say, pppd to use GPRS? |
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| 03:05.48 | lars_ | you could, but it would require you to write a script which turns the modem on |
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| 03:07.26 | Termana | Is there any scripts already written to do this? |
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| 03:09.26 | lars_ | i don't think so |
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| 03:10.06 | lars_ | it should be simple though |
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| 03:16.36 | lars_ | Termana: but as a sidenote, most peripherials wont work with a pure linus tree. |
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| 03:19.26 | Termana | lars_: Is there plans to have most of it merged into Linus' tree? |
| 03:19.55 | lars_ | Termana: yes |
| 03:20.24 | Blu3-2 | no, freenode does |
| 03:22.03 | lars_ | Termana: but there is a lack of kernel devs :/ |
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| 03:23.53 | Termana | lars_: I'm looking to buy something relatively cheap, that will most likely be merged OR is easy to apply the patches to later kernels. The other device I was thinking of getting was a SmartQ 5, which runs on the S3C6410, however - it doesn't seem like too many people are actively trying to get the SmartQ 5 mainlined AND I have been unable to find patches anywhere for it - my attempts to extract patches from older kernels for i |
| 03:24.26 | Termana | And the OpenMoko, from what I can see, the patches are all listed seperately and should be easy to apply |
| 03:25.45 | Termana | Plus, basic support is there in Linus' tree for the GTA02 with the plans to have most other stuff merged. |
| 03:26.56 | lars_ | Termana: your first message got cut of at " kernels for i" |
| 03:27.45 | Termana | Rest of it: kernels for it have either A) Failed or B) The person maintaining the kernel has stuffed it up |
| 03:28.06 | Blu3-2 | for those of you targeted by the ctcp version flooding bots, /umode +E and +C |
| 03:28.34 | Termana | As in, for one of them, someone had decided it was a good idea to modify the files for SMDK6410 instead of make seperate machine files. |
| 03:29.04 | lars_ | well, it's a start ;) |
| 03:31.24 | lars_ | for the freerunner I'm trying to keep at least the existing patch set up-to-date with linus' releases. but currently i don't have much time for additional work to put them in proper shape |
| 03:31.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | lars_: moin |
| 03:32.09 | lars_ | DocScrutinizer51: hi |
| 03:33.15 | DocScrutinizer51 | any ctcp flooding here? |
| 03:33.21 | Blu3 | for those of you targeted by the ctcp version flooding bots, /umode +E and +C |
| 03:33.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | any ctcp flooding here? |
| 03:33.38 | max_posedon | Termana, don't forget, openmoko's(freerunner's) hardware is crap |
| 03:33.42 | max_posedon | if compare to others |
| 03:33.56 | DocScrutinizer51 | aaah the troll |
| 03:34.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | :-) |
| 03:34.10 | Termana | max_posedon - Maybe, but I would probably much rather crap than unmainlined peices of shit |
| 03:34.20 | Termana | :) |
| 03:34.36 | max_posedon | it depends on what you need |
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| 03:35.15 | max_posedon | SmartQ at least have nice CPU+"GPU", but I don't know GSM status |
| 03:35.33 | Termana | lars_: Even if patch sets were not kept up to date, it should be as easy as seeing what the patches do and manually adding the files (or modifying files) myself in new mainline kernel releases - right? |
| 03:35.41 | Termana | max_posedon: They don't have any GSM |
| 03:36.19 | max_posedon | ah, in this case completly different devices) |
| 03:36.25 | lars_ | Termana: most times a `git rebase new-verion` works fine |
| 03:37.40 | DocScrutinizer51 | Blu3: so what is +EC? Have I asked for public spanking now? |
| 03:38.21 | Blu3 | i haven't had time to research. that's what i got from #freenode. due to the nature of the attack, i assume it means mask ctcp |
| 03:38.32 | Termana | lars_: Not much a fan of using git - I was thinking of just downloading the kernel tarball and then manually doing whatever the patch does - that WOULD work right? |
| 03:38.35 | Serdar | hi |
| 03:39.03 | Serdar | If I want to print something, like "echo huhu" in a Makefile, how do I do this? |
| 03:39.06 | lars_ | Termana: yes. but using `patch` should also work well |
| 03:39.09 | DocScrutinizer51 | Blu3: to me it told 'consider using +R' |
| 03:39.21 | Blu3 | that's for the channel |
| 03:39.29 | Blu3 | umode is for your own nick |
| 03:39.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | yup |
| 03:40.03 | Termana | lars_: So just patching them in normally to newer kernels should work most of the time? (but in any instance in which it doesn't it would have to be done manually?) |
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| 03:41.40 | lars_ | Termana: yes. patches mostly fail on Kconfig and Makefile files when new drivers have been added to upstream, but it's straight forward to fix it manually |
| 03:41.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | lars_: btw how's kernel messing business? :-) |
| 03:42.59 | lars_ | DocScrutinizer51: not good, don't have much time |
| 03:43.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | a pitty |
| 03:44.18 | DocScrutinizer51 | I realized WSOD still not yet fixed for good |
| 03:45.02 | Termana | lars_: Sorry to ask so many questions - I just want to make sure i'm not jumping into something and then realising that I was completely wrong on the difficulity of adding the drivers back in to a mainline kernel :P |
| 03:46.03 | DocScrutinizer51 | which drivers are you talking bout exactly? |
| 03:46.54 | lars_ | DocScrutinizer51: tell me more |
| 03:47.14 | Termana | DocScrutinizer51: Mainly the touchscreen one, since as was explained to me above, GPRS doesn't need any special drivers. I don't think I would need anything else, except maybe sound. |
| 03:47.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | lars_: honestly? |
| 03:48.09 | lars_ | DocScrutinizer51: yes |
| 03:48.28 | DocScrutinizer51 | k. please join cdevel |
| 03:48.32 | lars_ | Termana: A display driver would be nice aswell, i guess |
| 03:49.57 | max_posedon | Termana, sound on neo not very nice too |
| 03:51.03 | Termana | lars_: When I say touchscreen, I mean whatever gets the display working :P |
| 03:51.50 | max_posedon | but glamo(neo's smth, that usually names gpu) have a lot of problem |
| 03:56.36 | Termana | max_posedon: Again, I'm not looking for great things and everything to work - I'm just looking for something that is going to be easy to get some stuff working (in this case: GPRS, Display, Touchscreen and maybe Sound) with the mainline kernel. |
| 03:57.07 | max_posedon | neo fits this |
| 03:58.18 | max_posedon | but, I just trying notice you, that neo have some stuff, that doesn't work, and you don't ask this, because you (may be) can't belive that any device can have unworkable this feature |
| 04:03.51 | Termana | Your right, I haven't asked what doesn't work, because I am not looking at having the GPU work with or even without a mainline kernel. And the other device that I have been thinking about getting - the driver is under an NDA from my knowledge. So you can't use the GPU on THAT either. |
| 04:04.47 | Termana | Plus it doesn't have GPRS AND trying to get anything mainline running on it, is like trying to hold in baked beans - it ain't going to happen. |
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| 04:07.55 | max_posedon | so, I just wanted warn you, neo is great device, but its greatness really specific) |
| 04:08.24 | max_posedon | I like it, but 2 my friends, bought and after few months selled it |
| 04:08.37 | max_posedon | s/selled/sold |
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| 12:15.50 | Kero | uhm? root password set on shr-testing? just built a fresh image and I can not log in... |
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| 12:16.12 | PaulFertser | Kero: not set, that's the problem |
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| 12:16.21 | PaulFertser | Kero: openssh doesnt' allow blank password. |
| 12:17.55 | Kero | why no dropbear anymore? just curious |
| 12:18.45 | PaulFertser | Kero: some compatibility issues, i do not remember. |
| 12:19.42 | Kero | well. an additional problem is that X does not start. So how do I type anything... |
| 12:23.06 | Kero | impressive lcd driver mess up on first auto-suspend, and extremely quickly, too. black screen with some white pixels in a column on the left side with the suggestion it's scrolling so fast that you can not recognize the pixels as characters anymore. |
| 12:24.40 | Kero | lemme solve the root password, then I'll see if that is reproducable... |
| 12:28.47 | DocScrutinizer | SHRteam: http://shr-project.org/trac does NOT mention a recommended version of image (like "use testing to be found here ->URL") in a prominent location (top of page) |
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| 12:29.53 | DocScrutinizer | shrteam: as someone kicked the URL off #openmoko topic and replaced it with http://shr-project.org/trac, I *urgently* sugest to edit this front page |
| 12:31.32 | Kero | this is silly. I seem to have wrecked /home/root on my failsafe image and dropbear won't alow *that*... X does not start anymore, either! |
| 12:32.00 | Kero | and to top it off, laptop can not read uSD card (w/ adapter) in its SD slot. |
| 12:33.18 | lindi- | PaulFertser: openssh allows empty password with PermitEmptyPasswords |
| 12:35.16 | Kero | lindi-: but that does not help me... |
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| 12:39.21 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i know, but shr folks for some reason didn't tweak that. |
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| 12:52.08 | Kero | wants to flash an (old) image into mtd, to ge access to Neo again. But dfu-util does not see my 6th/big/new partition? reset of neo, uboot mtdparts shows that partition. |
| 12:54.08 | Kero | downloads up to date dfu-util... |
| 12:54.56 | Kero | does not help |
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| 14:24.11 | Fox_Muldr | i updated today my shr-u and there were a kernel update included. does this kernel have debug options disabled like discussed in the ml? i wonder because it is a bit smaller than my last one |
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| 14:29.52 | JaMa | Fox_Muldr: no shr-u is quite the same |
| 14:31.56 | JaMa | Fox_Muldr: but it also depends from which revision you're upgrading.. http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/log/recipes/linux/linux-openmoko-shr-devel_git.bb 12days ago I removed UBI debug.. then was only NAND_WRITE removed.. |
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| 14:44.06 | Fox_Muldr | i compiled latest andy tracking without most debug and preempt so than maybe i try my kernel instead of the shr-u default |
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| 15:10.42 | max_posedon | Fox_Muldr, don't forget modules |
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| 16:27.45 | slaxxer | somebody needs to get busy |
| 16:28.14 | slaxxer | an put the community update up on yhe main page |
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| 16:40.40 | DocScrutinizer | considers to publish a neo-optimize-registry.exe to complement the kernel nodebug foo |
| 16:41.46 | DocScrutinizer | may also a internet-booster app with really very few advertisment crap inside |
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| 17:03.27 | radekp | lars_: hi, i think newest kernel is missing definition for saved_irq_mask |
| 17:04.04 | radekp | otherwise it does not compile, but after simple fix like http://activationrecord.net/radekp/pub/saved_irq_mask.diff it's ok |
| 17:04.21 | radekp | and suspend works, which is great, so thanks! |
| 17:04.31 | lars_ | radekp: i know |
| 17:04.38 | lars_ | patch is on it's way |
| 17:04.45 | radekp | ahh oki :) |
| 17:05.43 | radekp | btw maybe 2.6.32 could also have config for gta02? |
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| 17:10.27 | lars_ | do you have a good one? |
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| 17:12.59 | JaMa | lars_: maybe you can use one from shr? |
| 17:13.18 | JaMa | lars_: http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr.images/config.gz |
| 17:13.48 | JaMa | lars_: ah but there is gdrm-2.6.32 already merged.. |
| 17:14.00 | JaMa | lars_: so there will be std fb off and kms fb on instead |
| 17:14.06 | radekp | lars_: i am using yours config from 2.6.31 |
| 17:14.21 | radekp | lars_: but regenrated with kbuild |
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| 18:00.40 | JaMa | lars_: drivers/leds/leds-gta02-vibrator.c:22:22: error: plat/pwm.h: No such file or directory, maybe not all users were switched to generic pwm api? |
| 18:00.59 | JaMa | lars_: or do you have some more patches for vibrator? |
| 18:01.08 | lars_ | JaMa: disable the vibrator |
| 18:01.14 | lars_ | it isn't used anyway anymore |
| 18:01.18 | JaMa | ah ok |
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| 18:53.09 | badcloud | is there a good guide for setting up bitbake? |
| 18:53.21 | badcloud | specifically for packaging programs in shr |
| 18:55.18 | JaMa | badcloud: http://docs.openembedded.org/usermanual/usermanual.html |
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| 18:59.28 | badcloud | thanks, I'll have a read |
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| 19:46.49 | badcloud | what do I have to cover from step 1 in http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Howto%20get%20my%20application%20in%20the%20SHR%20feed regarding source code of existing (and working program)? |
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| 22:53.09 | don-i | hey |
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| 23:07.50 | gargoyle-grin | Hey, folks. Koolu's file server seems to be down. Does anybody know of a mirror that would have their Android for Freerunner Beta 7 tarball? |
| 23:08.39 | gargoyle-grin | Or, perhaps, does anybody have a copy I could respectfully request a copy of (via RapidShare or something.) |
| 23:10.44 | gargoyle-grin | That tarball is *supposed* to be available at http://www.koolu.org/releases/beta7/android-freerunner-koolu1.0-beta-7.tar.gz |
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