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| 00:27.26 | Serdar | -is |
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| 08:35.13 | donaldd | Hi all |
| 08:35.37 | donaldd | Ive just been trying the latest shr-unstable image, wondering if this is the right place to ask questions |
| 08:39.50 | gonzoism | it is donaldd. there is also a mailing list if you don't find your answers here. |
| 08:40.26 | donaldd | Ah cool |
| 08:40.41 | gonzoism | what question you got ? |
| 08:40.44 | donaldd | I'm having trouble sshing in with the jan build |
| 08:41.06 | donaldd | basically it doesnt seem to accept a blank password over usb |
| 08:42.02 | gonzoism | i don't think it does. after the first run i think there is a setup wizard that prompts you for a password. anyways, they switched from dropbear to opensshd |
| 08:42.30 | gonzoism | you can open a terminal on the phone and run the passwd command and then enter a new password. |
| 08:42.43 | donaldd | Ah, |
| 08:42.45 | donaldd | doub |
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| 08:43.13 | gonzoism | i had to think about that one a while the first time it came up with me. :) |
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| 08:43.59 | gonzoism | how long have you had your phone ? |
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| 08:45.15 | donaldd | Fantastic, now I'm in i can start causing myself real trouble with my phone |
| 08:45.16 | gonzoism | just curious. :) |
| 08:45.27 | donaldd | got it yesterday |
| 08:45.32 | gonzoism | do you have wifi ? |
| 08:45.40 | gonzoism | wifi is awesome with the phone |
| 08:45.42 | gonzoism | :) |
| 08:46.01 | donaldd | Yep, that's the other problem I've been having since moving to shr |
| 08:46.08 | donaldd | doesnt seem to power up the wifi |
| 08:46.16 | gonzoism | oh, odd. |
| 08:46.38 | gonzoism | you go to settings and take it from automatic to manual, and then to on below it ? |
| 08:48.07 | donaldd | Under WIFI settings it says Wifi not available |
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| 08:48.22 | donaldd | It seemed to work with Om thoug... |
| 08:48.35 | gonzoism | what kernel are you using ? |
| 08:48.43 | gonzoism | also which phone model ? |
| 08:48.47 | donaldd | root@om-gta02 ~ $ uname -a |
| 08:48.47 | donaldd | Linux om-gta02 2.6.29-rc3 #1 PREEMPT Sat Jan 9 21:09:08 CET 2010 armv4tl unknown |
| 08:49.13 | donaldd | The phone is the A7 |
| 08:49.37 | gonzoism | you might want to ask in #openmoko-cdevel |
| 08:50.16 | gonzoism | sometimes i have to wait a while for wifi to initialize. |
| 08:50.37 | gonzoism | i think it was fsod i was waiting on to get everything powered up |
| 08:50.58 | gonzoism | i can't remember for sure though. it has been a while since that has happened to me. |
| 08:51.32 | gonzoism | shr developers hang out in #openmoko-cdevel (cdevel is community development or something) |
| 08:52.08 | gonzoism | i am going to bed in about 10 minutes |
| 08:52.40 | donaldd | Is Thanks for your help, now I can ssh in I can figure out what's going on! |
| 08:53.03 | gonzoism | cool. happy to help. :) happy you got a cool phone too. :) |
| 08:53.06 | gonzoism | later |
| 08:53.09 | donaldd | cu |
| 08:53.11 | lindi- | donaldd: zgrep CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL /proc/config.gz? |
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| 08:53.59 | donaldd | root@om-gta02 ~ $ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL |
| 08:53.59 | donaldd | CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL=y |
| 08:55.09 | lindi- | donaldd: ok then it's probably not the bug I hit just today: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2327 |
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| 09:34.00 | badcloud | hey all |
| 09:35.12 | badcloud | could someone confirm stereo sound w/wired headset playing these files? --->http://www.eminent-tech.com/music/500hzleft.wav;http://www.eminent-tech.com/music/500hzright.wav |
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| 09:37.11 | badcloud | I'm not getting left audio w/this http://www.gamebaz.com/?a=i&i=4488 |
| 09:38.15 | Wonka | A5/3 broken? http://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/second-gsm-cipher-falls-011110 |
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| 09:38.41 | PaulFertser | badcloud: are you sure to be using proper pinout for the headset? |
| 09:39.03 | badcloud | can you be more specific? |
| 09:39.17 | badcloud | or rather, in layman terms |
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| 09:40.14 | PaulFertser | badcloud: what headset are you using? |
| 09:40.38 | badcloud | http://www.gamebaz.com/?a=i&i=4488 + standard stereo headbuds |
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| 09:42.04 | PaulFertser | badcloud: got a multimeter? |
| 09:42.24 | badcloud | y |
| 09:43.49 | badcloud | (es) |
| 09:44.05 | DocScrutinizer51 | bzzzzzzzz multimeter |
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| 09:44.10 | badcloud | how do I impliment? |
| 09:44.12 | DocScrutinizer51 | :-) |
| 09:44.39 | badcloud | what's up, Doc? |
| 09:44.43 | badcloud | ;) |
| 09:45.40 | PaulFertser | badcloud: plug in your headset, set MM to measure resistance, attach the "-" to the "sleeve" of the jack, use "+" to check all the rings and the tip. Whenever you touch a contact connected to the buds you'll hear a click in one of them. Find out which is which. |
| 09:46.43 | badcloud | thanks. I'll have to try it later and get back to you |
| 09:46.47 | badcloud | c u l8r |
| 09:47.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | tztztz PaulFertser. Way too pragmatic |
| 09:48.08 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~botsnack |
| 09:48.08 | infobot | aw, gee, DocScrutinizer51 |
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| 09:48.23 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer51: the easier would be to just tell him "you bought a wrong adapter" but this way he'll learn more ;) |
| 09:48.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | ack |
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| 09:52.03 | nullix | badcloud: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Headset |
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| 09:54.32 | nullix | i use a HS-47 nokia headset that i modified as described in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Analog_wired_Headset_Nokia and it is working. |
| 09:55.51 | nullix | PaulFertser: in wiki it's written : "The headsets used by Motorola smartphones (A780,A1200, ...) and the V-360 have a compatible configuration. The HS-120 (Motorola) works without problems (mic untested). " then why would http://www.gamebaz.com/?a=i&i=4488 not working ? |
| 09:56.42 | nullix | is the wiki wrong ? |
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| 10:02.28 | DocScrutinizer51 | nullix: the wiki wrong? Heretic! :-) |
| 10:03.03 | DocScrutinizer51 | nah honestly the wiki is mostly correct wrt headset |
| 10:03.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | I'd hope :-P |
| 10:03.48 | DocScrutinizer51 | if you find anything fishy then blame me |
| 10:04.03 | PaulFertser | nullix: who knows. |
| 10:04.21 | PaulFertser | nullix: that's why badcloud should check that to know for sure. |
| 10:08.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | actually headset is one of the most simple topics to be found on Neo |
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| 10:09.46 | PaulFertser | And yet so many people get it wrong. |
| 10:10.15 | DocScrutinizer51 | and really everybody should be able to figure out... err paul was faster ;-D |
| 10:12.50 | DocScrutinizer51 | still I wonder WTH they decided to go for motorola headset crap. Rather than the much more sane Nokia-AV |
| 10:13.30 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer51: probably to make it compatible with mono-headsets. |
| 10:14.16 | DocScrutinizer51 | no idea. Allen didn't know an answer for me either |
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| 10:16.04 | DocScrutinizer51 | I guess it's been mere random once again. Rush into next crap shop, ask for cheap headset, check it out and copy |
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| 10:23.52 | Defiant | 3.5 would have my preference |
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| 10:26.36 | Pepe__ | hi |
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| 10:30.31 | Pepe__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:30.54 | gena2x | Pepe__: yes |
| 10:31.04 | gena2x | Pepe__: via usb for example\ |
| 10:31.49 | nullix | Pepe_: yes by conencting usb on a computer that act as a router, it requires then some configuration of your connected computer. |
| 10:32.11 | Pepe__ | can you help me configuring it? |
| 10:32.22 | nullix | what's your computer ? |
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| 10:32.40 | Pepe__ | Ubuntu |
| 10:32.48 | Pepe__ | a laptop |
| 10:32.58 | Pepe__ | i have the neo connected via USB |
| 10:33.42 | nullix | and you Freerunner distro ? |
| 10:34.15 | nullix | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking |
| 10:34.37 | Pepe__ | shr |
| 10:34.57 | Pepe__ | i'm connected via SSH in the neo |
| 10:34.58 | nullix | connect you usb cable, do a ifconfig -a and see if a new interface appears ( if it's usb0 or eth1, eth2 ... ) |
| 10:35.14 | Pepe__ | it's eth2 |
| 10:35.17 | nullix | ah so you just need to enable routing |
| 10:35.21 | Pepe__ | yes |
| 10:35.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | Pepe__: I hope you have SHR-testing as mentioned in channel topic here |
| 10:35.38 | Pepe__ | unstable... |
| 10:35.46 | nullix | something like : |
| 10:35.54 | nullix | sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 |
| 10:35.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | I honestly recommend testing |
| 10:36.08 | nullix | iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 |
| 10:36.14 | DocScrutinizer51 | unstable is basically for developers |
| 10:36.36 | Pepe__ | oks |
| 10:37.18 | DocScrutinizer51 | Pepe__: anyway for your particular problem it's irrelevant right now (I hope) |
| 10:37.41 | nullix | idea is that your ubuntu acts as a dynamic nat ( just like a classical internet box ) |
| 10:37.55 | Pepe__ | nullix, where have i to write the instructions? on ubuntu or on neo? |
| 10:38.09 | DocScrutinizer51 | ubuntu |
| 10:38.12 | ThibG | on ubuntu |
| 10:38.12 | Pepe__ | ok |
| 10:38.30 | nullix | on ubuntu, normaly in shr neo is already confiugred to use your ubuntu 192.168.0.200 as default router |
| 10:39.00 | nullix | anyway all is in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking ( and perhaps even more ... :-) ) |
| 10:40.11 | Pepe__ | thanks nullix :) |
| 10:40.28 | nullix | one remark : disable power management when your are connected in usb to not loose connection if freerunner goes in standby mode |
| 10:41.08 | DocScrutinizer51 | wonders if eventually some polite savvy ubuntu user might publish a universal shellscript to do networking |
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| 10:42.11 | DocScrutinizer51 | nullix: that should work automagically via frameworkd rule |
| 10:43.03 | Defiant | DocScrutinizer51: doesn't the configuration via /e/n/i always work? |
| 10:43.19 | DocScrutinizer51 | if it doesn,t something is borked in SHR |
| 10:43.31 | nullix | yes, there is nothing to configure on shr side, whether it is done staticaly or in frameworkd i didn't know |
| 10:43.54 | lindi- | huh? of course there is a lot to configure on the freerunner side? |
| 10:44.05 | DocScrutinizer51 | aah you meant powermanagement on ubuntu laptop? |
| 10:44.24 | accumulator | shellscript to do networking? |
| 10:44.42 | DocScrutinizer51 | yes you should avoid to send laptop to suspend state |
| 10:45.07 | accumulator | In Intrepid it worked automagically when plugging the FR, on Jaunty too after some fiddling |
| 10:45.09 | nullix | DocScrutinizer51: nope, i just misunderstood your comment ( through was for routing ) : so it is useless to change power management, good to know |
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| 11:03.18 | Pepe__ | i'm updating and upgrading now! :D |
| 11:03.22 | Pepe__ | thanks!!! |
| 11:03.46 | Pepe__ | bye! |
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| 11:14.21 | DocScrutinizer51 | heh another poor soul saved :-D |
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| 11:56.34 | Daramarak | hmm, I just did a update/upgrade on SHR-U, and now I got 10 buttons in the bottom of the main screen, and the pin dialog doesn't appear. Anyone else got this? |
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| 12:01.42 | dns53 | Daramarak yes, i have no idea why, but at least the phone makes calls |
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| 12:09.57 | Daramarak | dns53: My phone wont make calls, I cannot enter the pin... :( |
| 12:10.46 | Daramarak | It makes me wonder, why did I upgrade when I was so happy with the phone just now :o |
| 12:11.11 | dns53 | shr unstable is unstable sometimes |
| 12:12.03 | Daramarak | sure is :D |
| 12:12.20 | Daramarak | I don't mind, its the price of bleeding edge. |
| 12:12.42 | Daramarak | Anyone know how I can make the pin dialog pop up manually? |
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| 12:21.12 | dns53 | isn't that in the settings window? |
| 12:23.19 | DocScrutinizer51 | wow. google china stops censoring its search results |
| 12:24.03 | DocScrutinizer51 | wonders how many of the employees left the country before they did this |
| 12:24.55 | Daramarak | dns53: disable/enable pin, and change pin. But I cannot see any enter pin... |
| 12:25.21 | nullix | i would bet that some chinese responsible at google will be put in court trial for that. |
| 12:25.56 | DocScrutinizer51 | you bet. shot in the neck probably |
| 12:26.46 | nullix | i don't think it will go so far. but some jail might be. |
| 12:27.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | would be interesting how long it takes for great chinese firewall to take down google china |
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| 12:28.29 | nullix | i guees that google prepare to withdraw totaly from china. |
| 12:29.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | but probably the simply take down google building's main power and cut the fibre optics cable :-P |
| 12:29.50 | DocScrutinizer51 | then arrest everybody incidentally inside the headquarters |
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| 12:31.30 | DocScrutinizer51 | nullix: actually they do |
| 12:31.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | or did |
| 12:33.15 | DocScrutinizer51 | because chinese gvmt managed to hack google mail accounts of dissidents and intelectuals nd other 'public enemies' |
| 12:34.45 | Wonka | http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html |
| 12:35.05 | Wonka | sounds like they didn't decide to leave yet |
| 12:35.29 | Wonka | but are mentally prepared to do |
| 12:38.30 | Wonka | http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1508260&cid=30746302 O.o |
| 12:39.50 | dns53 | unfiltered search results would be a decent threat, especially if you can get the google cache of every page on the internet |
| 12:40.36 | Wonka | china, even you don't simply attack google... |
| 12:42.07 | PaulFertser | Why google doesn't simply start to provide their search services over https? Is it really that expensive? |
| 12:42.28 | SpeedEvil | Because that would get them flat-out banned instantly in china |
| 12:43.07 | PaulFertser | If google did that one could easily use Tor to bypass any ip-range restrictions. |
| 12:43.24 | lindi- | PaulFertser: except that you can't really use google over tor? |
| 12:43.26 | PaulFertser | So google will be still accessible no matter what those morons do. |
| 12:43.34 | PaulFertser | lindi-: why can't you do that? |
| 12:43.40 | lindi- | PaulFertser: try :) |
| 12:43.52 | lindi- | PaulFertser: "your computer may be infected with malware..." |
| 12:43.55 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i might when i get home but why? |
| 12:44.15 | lindi- | PaulFertser: some people use it to do malicious stuff |
| 12:44.24 | SpeedEvil | PaulFertser: err - no. |
| 12:44.26 | PaulFertser | lindi-: i mean why not to enable search over https and then no government-imposed restrictions will be imposed. |
| 12:44.36 | PaulFertser | Oh meh :| |
| 12:44.46 | SpeedEvil | PaulFertser: you proxy all https at the firewall. Deep-packet inspect everything, and bin all traffic you can't positively identify. |
| 12:45.25 | SpeedEvil | PaulFertser: the big issue is that the firewall is not to stop technically adept people. it's to stop the uneducated masses. |
| 12:45.28 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: you simply can't do that, nobody will be able to verify their destination, so all internet-banking, web-mail etc etc will stop working. |
| 12:45.36 | SpeedEvil | PaulFertser: so? |
| 12:45.46 | dns53 | what good is https if you own a ca and access to the dns servers? |
| 12:45.55 | SpeedEvil | PaulFertser: you explain they need to download new root certificates on the landing page |
| 12:46.01 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: if you mitm all https traffic even local sites will stop working. |
| 12:47.24 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: and anyway currently prc government doesn't and seemingly not planning to really ban "arbitrary" traffic and/or https. So one can simply obtain a VPS in Europe or something and ssh in there. |
| 12:48.20 | SpeedEvil | PaulFertser: How? You connect to the firewall, and it pretends to be https://www.ebay.com/ - it then negotiates with ebay as if it was a browser. To the browser it looks like you're hitting ebay.com - and your downloaded certificate agrees. |
| 12:48.39 | Daramarak | Anyone one who can help me activating the pin dialog from my now unstable SHR-U freerunnner? |
| 12:48.48 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: you're not adding fake root CA to you browser, just that. |
| 12:49.17 | SpeedEvil | PaulFertser: all https stops working unless you add root cert. Most users will. |
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| 12:49.45 | dns53 | or the fact that china probably has a root ca |
| 12:50.02 | PaulFertser | Daramarak: are you sure you do not have fsogsmd installed? Have you tried upgrading again? Have you tried (surprise, surprise) reading frameword log? |
| 12:51.27 | PaulFertser | SpeedEvil: technically it's possible. I doubt china's going implement something like that. Also even if they do, you just configure your VPS to add additional SSL layer over it. Even if that is monitored by deep PI and stuff, well, the guys are screwed. They're anyway... :( |
| 12:52.06 | DocScrutinizer51 | anyway news just told google.cn delivered even previously censored pages like tian nang men (?) massaker docu |
| 12:52.32 | DocScrutinizer51 | today |
| 12:52.42 | Daramarak | I try a new update upgrade |
| 12:52.46 | DocScrutinizer51 | not mentioned for how long they did |
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| 12:53.48 | SpeedEvil | PaulFertser: if the firewall is delivered to throw away all but stuff that passes the DPI filters - VPN becomes harder. |
| 12:53.51 | DocScrutinizer51 | what a fackng scary xmas for chinese internet users :-D |
| 12:54.05 | SpeedEvil | s/del/conf/ |
| 12:55.10 | DocScrutinizer51 | google for whatever you like, download, and ruuuuuun |
| 12:56.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | (assuming you were sensible enough to do that in a public internet cafe or sth) |
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| 12:58.51 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~hail PGP for that behalf |
| 12:58.52 | infobot | ACTION bows down to PGP for that behalf and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 13:10.28 | Daramarak | updated for the 3. time, and rebooted for the 6. time, and now it seems to work. I don't get it? Is it opkg that is unreliable? Or is it me? |
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| 13:18.07 | Daramarak | lindi-: are your gsm watchdog integrated into SHR yet? |
| 13:20.31 | lindi- | Daramarak: afaik not |
| 13:20.49 | lindi- | Daramarak: fso has had its own watchdog project but i on |
| 13:20.55 | lindi- | Daramarak: fso has had its own watchdog project but i don't know how far they have got |
| 13:22.35 | Daramarak | lindi-: How about that ledctrl module, I am missing that one to make good use of your watchdog. |
| 13:23.20 | lindi- | Daramarak: libomhacks0 has now some led code |
| 13:24.06 | lindi- | Daramarak: iki.fi/lindi/git/ledctrl is of course available |
| 13:24.17 | lindi- | (was it git? or darcs?) |
| 13:24.50 | Daramarak | git |
| 13:27.03 | lindi- | Daramarak: if you use FSO you might want to use FSO api to blink the led |
| 13:27.52 | lindi- | Daramarak: in a watchdog it's bit questionable though since if FSO does not respond you can't light the led to indicate this.. |
| 13:28.21 | Daramarak | lindi-: Yes, thats true |
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| 13:36.20 | Daramarak | lindi-: I don't seem to be able to clone your project using git clone git://iki.fi/lindi/git/ledctrl I am a compile noob when it comes to git, so I might be doing it wrong. |
| 13:40.45 | lindi- | Daramarak: http:// |
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| 15:36.02 | pabs3 | anyone else having problems with shr-unstable? shr-settings can't seem to change any settings and also ffalarms isn't waking the FR up from suspend |
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| 17:07.53 | badcloud | PaulFertser: thanks for the tip |
| 17:08.12 | badcloud | mplayer seems a bit inconsistant when using the files specified earlier |
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| 17:08.24 | badcloud | http://www.eminent-tech.com/music/500hzleft.wav;http://www.eminent-tech.com/music/500hzright.wav |
| 17:09.09 | badcloud | using the MM, I heard resistance for r and l |
| 17:09.13 | badcloud | but not ground |
| 17:10.05 | Guest19352 | what is the best browser that works on shr-u? |
| 17:10.19 | badcloud | Guest19352: depends on your needs |
| 17:10.24 | badcloud | links for speed |
| 17:10.37 | badcloud | minimo for capability |
| 17:10.56 | badcloud | netsurf is fast too, but not as much as links |
| 17:11.46 | Guest19352 | okaj, then i will try links |
| 17:12.00 | Guest19352 | *okay |
| 17:12.16 | Guest19352 | thx |
| 17:13.03 | badcloud | np |
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| 17:26.13 | PaulFertser | badcloud: (resistance) |
| 17:26.19 | PaulFertser | badcloud: let me exlain a bit more then |
| 17:26.48 | PaulFertser | badcloud: an earbud is basically a magnetic coil with a membrane that it can push or pull. |
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| 17:27.45 | PaulFertser | badcloud: when DC flows through coil, it pushes or pulls the membrane. When nothing is going through it, the membrain stays in the middle. |
| 17:28.13 | PaulFertser | badcloud: when you ask MM to measure resistance, it does so by supplying DC through its terminals |
| 17:28.50 | PaulFertser | badcloud: so whenever you attach terminals to the coil, you hear a click of membrane moving to the edge. |
| 17:29.40 | PaulFertser | badcloud: you have two coils: left and right. One of the wire is common for them: it's called ground and is wired to the receptable "sleeve" (the farthest part from the "tip"). |
| 17:30.24 | PaulFertser | badcloud: with the scheme i proposed you should be able to identify where the other coil wires are attached. |
| 17:30.33 | PaulFertser | badcloud: is it clearer now? |
| 17:32.16 | nullix | PaulFertser: thanks anyway for that quick electronic training course |
| 17:33.42 | brian_ | haaa i just repaired my plasma tv that went out in 14 months:) |
| 17:33.59 | brian_ | ysus-zsus boards |
| 17:34.26 | badcloud | PaulFertser: yes, many many thanks for the patience and information |
| 17:36.24 | nullix | brian_: i might be the last one to have still a cathod ray tube on my tvset at home... |
| 17:36.37 | brian_ | :) |
| 17:37.04 | nullix | let's say it has somehow 13 years |
| 17:37.20 | brian_ | i bought a viore from walmart an was playing counterstrike on iy |
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| 17:38.18 | nullix | before it was in years, now it is in month, soon it will be days ... |
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| 17:53.18 | PaulFertser | badcloud: now you can go to the wiki and compare the pinout you got with the one used on FR. |
| 17:53.42 | DocScrutinizer51 | duh. I missed all the fun |
| 17:53.58 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer51: not really much of it |
| 17:54.10 | DocScrutinizer51 | k :) |
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| 18:08.07 | badcloud | PaulFertser: what I got is from the supported list, I think |
| 18:08.46 | badcloud | though I still can't feel my way to getting resistance from gnd |
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| 18:15.50 | PaulFertser | badcloud: i hoped i explained it the way that was easy enough to understand :( |
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| 18:43.06 | badcloud | PaulFertser: thanks, you did |
| 18:43.08 | badcloud | :) |
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| 20:10.57 | PaulFertser | badcloud: so what is the result of your tests? Is your adapter compatible or is there an error in the wiki? |
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| 20:14.59 | pespin | hey, I get this when trying to ssh -X mokomaze: |
| 20:15.01 | pespin | Main: can't set video mode. Exiting. |
| 20:15.07 | pespin | some time ago it worked :S |
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| 20:19.57 | pespin | in fact, I can't x forward any app :S |
| 20:20.08 | pespin | my DISPLAY pc is set to ":0.0" |
| 20:21.40 | PaulFertser | pespin: when you connect with ssh -X it should set DISPLAY on remote automatically to something like :10.0 |
| 20:22.01 | KenYoung | pespin, You're trying to have a desktop/laptop X server display for an X client on a Freerunner? |
| 20:22.59 | pespin | KenYoung, show neo app display in my pc |
| 20:23.21 | ndnihil | xhost + on the PC, export DISPLAY=addr.of.PC:0 |
| 20:23.28 | ndnihil | on the FR |
| 20:23.53 | pespin | way this wan't needed before? |
| 20:24.17 | KenYoung | pespin, OK, that's X server on pc, client on Freerunner. Have you checked that X forwarding is enabled on /etc/ssh/ssh/ssh_config ? |
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| 20:24.26 | ndnihil | some SSH implementations automatically forward back to host of origin |
| 20:24.32 | ndnihil | perhaps that changed |
| 20:25.04 | mjr | they don't tend to do that per default these days, people realized it's a security problem |
| 20:27.45 | pespin | KenYoung, that's client or server side ? (config file) |
| 20:28.13 | KenYoung | pespin, Your Freerunner is *client* in this case, so you want the ssh_config file. |
| 20:28.38 | KenYoung | pespin, The device that actually displays is server in X11 terminology. |
| 20:28.47 | pespin | ok :) |
| 20:29.23 | KenYoung | pespin, There's a line "ForwardX11 yes" that should not be commented out. |
| 20:29.35 | pespin | Host * |
| 20:29.35 | pespin | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:29.35 | pespin | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:30.03 | pespin | did ndnihil hints too |
| 20:30.11 | pespin | and still doesn't work |
| 20:30.22 | KenYoung | pespin, Uncommenting that has been the only thing I've needed to do to get X11 forwarding to work on my Freerunner. |
| 20:30.36 | pespin | it was already uncommented for me |
| 20:30.42 | mjr | hmh, so are you trying to run an app on the neo and display elsewhere? IIRC dropbear server last I tried didn't do that. |
| 20:30.47 | mjr | but *shrug* |
| 20:30.48 | KenYoung | pespin, Can you ssh into some other machine, and get an X11 display on your pc? |
| 20:31.19 | KenYoung | Yes, dropbear *definately* won't do it. You must install real ssh. |
| 20:31.22 | pespin | KenYoung, will try later, now dinner's time :D thanks, I'll tell you how it goes :) |
| 20:31.51 | pespin | (I have openssh installed) |
| 20:32.13 | KenYoung | But you probably won't even have the file /etc/ssh/ssh_config if real ssh isn't installed. |
| 20:32.42 | KenYoung | pespin, openssh is fine. That's what I use, and I do what you're describing all the time (with SHR-u). |
| 20:33.32 | mjr | pespin, also on the neo? |
| 20:46.34 | pespin | is back |
| 20:46.39 | pespin | mjr, yes |
| 20:47.05 | pespin | KenYoung, works displaying an app from another pc, but not from neo |
| 20:47.41 | pespin | when I ssh -X in the neo, DISPLAY is set to "localhost:0", whereas in the other computer, is set to "localhost:10.0" |
| 20:50.31 | pespin | PaulFertser, ^ DISPLAY isn't set automatically yo 10.0 on neo :S |
| 20:54.32 | PaulFertser | pespin: what if you set it manually? |
| 20:55.00 | PaulFertser | pespin: looks like probably some security setting on the FR. |
| 20:55.23 | pespin | PaulFertser, is there a parameter to set it in ssh -X ? |
| 20:56.01 | PaulFertser | pespin: your ssh client tries to do that automatically. But probably somehow ssh server prohibits setting the environment, there's a config option about that iirc. |
| 21:01.48 | pespin | hehe, must be this: |
| 21:01.48 | pespin | #X11Forwarding no |
| 21:03.00 | badcloud | PaulFertser: I haven't got that far to tell |
| 21:03.13 | badcloud | PaulFertser: I'll be sure to update |
| 21:04.14 | PaulFertser | badcloud: well, what contact is for left headphone and what is for the right with your adapter? |
| 21:05.37 | pespin | yep, as that, it works now :) |
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| 21:17.52 | pespin | ok, Now I get midori to work for example, but mokomaze continues just saying |
| 21:18.05 | pespin | Main: can't set video mode. Exiting. |
| 21:19.14 | pespin | now DISPLAY on neo is set to "localhost:10.0" |
| 21:20.00 | ndnihil | mokomaze uses xrandr to change orientation |
| 21:20.09 | ndnihil | and you cant do that to the remote display |
| 21:20.38 | pespin | >.< some time ago I was able |
| 21:20.52 | pespin | is this due to new xserver driver? |
| 21:21.04 | ndnihil | dunno |
| 21:21.47 | PaulFertser | pespin: probably just a new mokomaze version |
| 21:22.13 | pespin | ok :) |
| 21:24.00 | pespin | hmm a friend with a moko just told me he is able xD |
| 21:24.30 | Weiss | is mokomaze written in a languagewh |
| 21:24.38 | Weiss | .. where you can just snip the xrandr line out? |
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| 21:24.50 | PaulFertser | Weiss: i guess it's C, so no. |
| 21:25.06 | Weiss | :( |
| 21:25.51 | Weiss | or do something nasty like: ln -s /bin/true /somewhere/xrandr; PATH=/somewhere:$PATH mokomaze |
| 21:27.20 | pespin | I don't see mokomaze is changing orientation |
| 21:27.34 | pespin | and my friend is running it successfully right now |
| 21:28.24 | PaulFertser | pespin: change fullscreen in openmoko config |
| 21:28.26 | pespin | oh, my friend is using testing |
| 21:28.45 | pespin | so that may explain it |
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| 21:29.13 | pespin | PaulFertser, what do you mean? in mokomaze? |
| 21:29.17 | PaulFertser | pespin: yes, in mokomaze config |
| 21:30.06 | PaulFertser | Why is it not a common thing among users to look up the source in question to understand the problems they have? |
| 21:30.41 | pespin | PaulFertser, that worked |
| 21:31.07 | pespin | because I don't know at all exactly what is failing :P |
| 21:31.16 | PaulFertser | pespin: nope, you know exactly. |
| 21:31.47 | PaulFertser | Main: can't set video mode. Exiting. <--- this line is verbatim in the sources, and two lines before that you see everything important. |
| 21:32.01 | pespin | oh ok |
| 21:32.05 | PaulFertser | http://github.com/Sektor/mokomaze/blob/master/src/mainwindow.c |
| 21:32.13 | pespin | yes, I should have looked at it ;) |
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