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02:13.38naquanhi everyone. I cloned the openmoko kernel source and install the deb of toolchain. Could anyone please tell me how to get SHR's kernel source? the link to openembedded on shr-project.org seem to be broken :(
02:28.45naquani'm sorry, never mind, i found it some how :)
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02:35.03naquanWeiss: hi, the wiki link you gave me 's a bit outdated, they removed the build script, is the Kbuild script the same?
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10:03.06Weissnaquan: yes.. you have to copy the build script across from 2.6.29 if you want to use it..
10:03.22Weiss(OE etc has its own recipe I think, which is why it's not there by default)
10:08.15naquanWeiss: can I use the same build script in andy-tracking?
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10:15.21Weissnaquan: yep
10:20.03naquanWeiss: the build script require the .config file in GTA02, can i get that file from other branch too?
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10:26.54naquanWeiss: i'm sorry, it's a stupid question, i found it on wiki.
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10:46.37naquanWeiss: do you know what this means? /bin/sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected make: *** [sub-make] Error 2
10:53.54Weissnaquan: error in one of the makefiles I think..
10:54.17naquanWeiss: yes
10:54.25naquan:(
10:55.44Weisscan you pastebin the whole message?
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11:14.43DaramarakI really like that Tux welcomes me when I boot, my only problem is that I see him to often. After reflashing (14dec unstable) it i need to reboot 10. mins because it suspends, and won't come back to life.
11:20.32DaramarakI am (ofcourse) talking about the SHR distro.
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12:00.04dandoi just attatched my minikey usb PS2 keyboard to freerunner and it works fine.
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12:02.41dando20 $
12:02.53dandoand very small
12:11.19dandocalled dreamgear mini key
12:12.25dandoseems like no one is intrested. :)
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12:20.19dandook. the pipe symbol is missing.
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12:22.42SpeedEvilinteresting.
12:23.19dandoat least one
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12:28.18dandoi cant dial a number with my keyboard.
12:28.28tomcatek1it's still a linux. if You plug there a pronter it should be able to use it too ;)
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12:29.07dandothats true some how
12:29.22tomcateks/pronter/printer
12:30.44dandobut it is designed for PS2
12:31.17tomcatekand there are converters usb<-> ps/2
12:31.45mjrprinter for ps/2? I doubt that
12:32.01tomcatekkeyboard
12:32.10dandono i m talking about playstation2
12:32.14mjryeah, that'll work sure
12:32.15tomcatekou
12:32.36tomcatekhehe.. mittle missunderstanding
12:32.49tomcatekdando: maybye that's why it have no pipe
12:33.01dandomaybe
12:33.13dandobut its ok for chatting
12:33.26dandousing it right now
12:34.09dandoon shr pidgin
12:34.37mjrprobably keymappable
12:34.51dandoguess so
12:35.34dandoi need the pipe for my bash shell
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12:52.04daniele_athomemmm
12:52.17daniele_athomeseems that every openmoko channels mentions only SHR
12:52.20daniele_athomeor SHR things
12:52.24daniele_athomeinteresting...
12:52.56daniele_athomedoes it mean that SHR is the current official distribution? that is, "sponsored" by openmoko inc.?
12:53.01tomcatekSHR is going to conquer the world soon
12:53.29tomcatekYou are with us or against :]
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12:57.40soltysand it isn't 'sponsored' by om ;P
12:57.42soltysafair
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13:00.04tomcateksoltys: or someone is just stealing Your share :]
13:00.23soltysthere is only my one module in settings ;)
13:01.56tomcatekone module ~ one beer
13:02.31daniele_athometomcatek, actually not with you nor against you
13:02.39daniele_athomei'm still deciding my side
13:02.46daniele_athomebecause I don't know if I should help SHR
13:02.59daniele_athomeand directly contribute to it
13:03.07daniele_athomeor instead I should make my own work, based on shr
13:03.25daniele_athomeuntil I reach something that stands up on its own
13:03.31daniele_athomeand than "detach" from shr :)
13:07.26tomcatekdaniele_athome: what for?
13:10.28daniele_athometomcatek, I want to make my own mobile platform
13:10.41daniele_athomebecause none satisfy me
13:10.52daniele_athome*no one
13:11.17daniele_athomebut I can't start a distribution from scratch, it's too hard and time wasting
13:11.31daniele_athomeso I start from customizing shr
13:11.34daniele_athome*by
13:11.51daniele_athomeand when I reach some point I will make a detached distribution
13:11.58daniele_athome*separate
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13:15.50tomcatekYou can start with binary messages
13:16.04tomcatek(hopefully they are on Your list things to do
13:16.05tomcatek)
13:17.00daniele_athomemmm that's not my idea
13:17.21daniele_athomefirst, I want to drop enlightenment
13:17.32daniele_athomeand replace it by a veeery basic wm (if it is necessary)
13:17.43daniele_athome*with
13:18.11soltysdaniele_athome: hm new distro shouldn't be hard to start -> you take fso, mase distro on oe and only things are gui apps ;)
13:18.39daniele_athomesoltys, that's what I will do eventually
13:18.43daniele_athomebut not now
13:18.46soltysmhm
13:19.07daniele_athomenow I want to focus on changing UI and possibly phone framework
13:19.20daniele_athomeI'm really looking forward to ofono
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13:33.30pbaxterhi all
13:33.57DocScrutinizer51lo
13:36.12daniele_athomeeth0
13:37.28DocScrutinizer51is puzzled bout daniele_athome's heretic attitude
13:37.40daniele_athomelol
13:37.47daniele_athomeok it was a really bad joke
13:37.48daniele_athome:D
13:38.27daniele_athomeDocScrutinizer51, get used to them because sometimes I make even worse jokes
13:38.28daniele_athome:P
13:39.03DocScrutinizer51daniele_athome: if you're interested in ofono, why not use mer then?
13:39.24daniele_athomeDocScrutinizer51, because it's maemo based
13:39.30daniele_athomeand I don't like it :)
13:40.27DocScrutinizer51actually xi think mer is debian based
13:40.46DocScrutinizer51ofono is clearly maemo based
13:40.52daniele_athomeyes maemo is debian based
13:42.06DocScrutinizer51and there *is* mer for FR as you know for sure
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13:43.12daniele_athomeDocScrutinizer51, yes I know
13:43.23daniele_athomeanyway I'm just started exploring ofono
13:43.35daniele_athomeif maemo is better to use with ofono, I'll take it :)
13:43.41daniele_athomei'm just evaluating my ideas for now
13:47.29DocScrutinizer51well, it's up to you. Just don't hold your breath to find anybody excited about ofono in general and on FR / SHR in particular. If you're fine with solitaire system then go on as you find you like it
13:48.25daniele_athomeDocScrutinizer51, I'm actually doing this for myself
13:48.44daniele_athomeone day, if someone is interested in my work, I will be glad to share all with him/her :)
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13:51.26DocScrutinizer51hmm. seems you got a sisyphos work to get a minimum set of apps to a working state. but hey - it'a your time. you're free to waste it the way you like
13:51.47daniele_athomeDocScrutinizer51, i'm still planning it
13:52.22daniele_athomeI mean, if I found that it's enough just to put together some apps in the right way - so be it :)
13:52.28daniele_athomeless time "wasted" as you say
13:52.36daniele_athome*will find
13:52.39daniele_athomesorry bad english
13:53.38DocScrutinizer51bl
13:53.45DocScrutinizer51bbl even
13:54.31daniele_athomebl?
13:55.33tomcatekbe later
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13:57.47daniele_athomewhat does it mean?
13:58.06tomcatekeventually he will be back here
14:00.09daniele_athomeaaaaah
14:00.09daniele_athome:D
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14:23.33gonzoismdaniele_athome: what do you think about shr ?  what are its shortcomings ?
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14:35.29daniele_athomeshortcomings means?
14:36.58daniele_athomegonzoism
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15:15.21panickingIt is possible to suspend cpu during a call
15:15.21panickingdo you try to use frequency
15:15.21panickingscaling on freerunner
15:15.21panickingwith your kernel version
15:15.21larscno
15:15.35mjrIIRC technically it would be possible to suspend during call, dunno if anyone's done that
15:15.56panickingIt's possible
15:16.02panickingjust skip the suspend function
15:16.04mjroh, I read that as a question
15:16.06panickingof alsa part
15:16.14mjr"is it possible"
15:16.18mjrmy bad
15:16.24panickingok
15:16.41panickingI'm going to push sched-freq patch on android-frerunner
15:16.47panickingthe only import thing
15:16.50panickingis this one
15:17.14panickingwrite /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq 100000
15:17.21panickingset the min frequency
15:17.36panickingbecause under this frequency there are subsystem that doent' work
15:17.42panickingduring resume
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