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| 03:29.54 | naquan | hi everyone, i have an cheap 1G Transcend uSD and can't install SHR on it, is there any distribution that will survive on this card? |
| 03:30.30 | ndnihil | that's not going to be a dist specific problem, but a card specific problem |
| 03:30.41 | ndnihil | if you can mount/read/write to it, any dist will work |
| 03:37.36 | naquan | ndnihil: i see, thank you. |
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| 03:41.18 | port | hey can anyone help me out please? |
| 03:44.04 | rozzin | with? |
| 03:44.22 | naquan | port: what 's your problem? i'll try if i know it :) |
| 03:46.31 | port | i have the neo freerunner connected to dfu. where do i put the jffs2 file. i have it on my desktop. but when i go to flash it says no file. sorry noob |
| 03:48.04 | naquan | port: first you must start neotool as root, like "sudo ./neotool.sh" |
| 03:48.26 | naquan | port: or else it won't let you flash your neo |
| 03:49.10 | port | im using in terminal sudo dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a rootfs -R -D full-om-gta02.jffs2 |
| 03:49.21 | port | will try naquan |
| 03:50.37 | naquan | port: did you start the phone to uboot menu? |
| 03:50.58 | port | yes |
| 03:51.42 | port | it says device_configured:1 |
| 03:51.53 | port | im conected |
| 03:54.12 | port | naquan http://pastebin.org63370 |
| 03:55.56 | port | naquan http://pastebin.org/63370 |
| 03:56.21 | naquan | port: are you in the same directory with the jffs2 file? |
| 03:56.56 | port | what directory that what i dont no what to do or put the file |
| 03:57.16 | port | where do i put the file? |
| 03:57.27 | port | i have it on my desktop |
| 03:58.16 | naquan | port: may be it 's ~/Desktop, change to there, like "cd ~/Desktop" |
| 03:58.50 | port | k trying |
| 03:58.50 | naquan | and try the command again |
| 03:59.51 | port | how do i write that in the terminal? |
| 04:00.14 | naquan | cd ~/Desktop |
| 04:00.21 | port | just that? |
| 04:00.55 | naquan | and the try your dfu command again |
| 04:01.09 | naquan | *then |
| 04:02.27 | port | K |
| 04:03.15 | port | WORKED |
| 04:03.23 | port | LOVE YOU MAN |
| 04:03.58 | naquan | :) glad that it work |
| 04:04.29 | naquan | i use the neotool, it 's more simple, you should try it too :) |
| 04:04.55 | port | lol iv been trying this for month. im using linuxmint 7 will try |
| 04:05.11 | port | how long does it take |
| 04:05.11 | port | ? |
| 04:05.59 | port | i have android installed was so easy why are the outher distros hard to install |
| 04:06.30 | naquan | the flash process 's really long, about 15 minutes or so they said |
| 04:08.07 | port | im trying SHR but i was about to go postal lol thanks agian |
| 04:08.12 | naquan | you should try neotool, it make the flashing process easier |
| 04:08.23 | naquan | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NeoTool |
| 04:08.37 | port | does it work on any disto vista and linux |
| 04:08.38 | naquan | just a script that do almost everything :) |
| 04:09.26 | port | they dont have it for ubuntu thats what i use the most |
| 04:09.54 | port | still learning linux |
| 04:11.01 | naquan | i'm using ubuntu too. i downloaded the script and run it |
| 04:13.18 | rozzin | port: You don't have to flash SHR into the Neo's onboard flash, |
| 04:14.13 | port | i have no idea what im doing just missinig around trying to learn how to work with it |
| 04:14.14 | rozzin | port: you can just load it onto a µSD card, put the card into the Neo, and it'll boot off of that. |
| 04:15.12 | port | i tryed that with fat32 aand ex2 and 3 didnt work probubly my card doesnt work for it |
| 04:15.47 | port | it works when i install android in fat32 but not the outher distros |
| 04:16.01 | rozzin | Um. |
| 04:16.29 | rozzin | Android doesn't `install in fat32', either. |
| 04:16.43 | port | i mine ex2 sorry |
| 04:16.52 | port | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:17.29 | rozzin | If you just format your µSD as ext3, and unpack the SHR tarball into it, that should work. |
| 04:18.08 | rozzin | You'd want to download a tarball for that, though--not a jffs2 image. |
| 04:18.42 | port | i did the tarball but when estracking i dont have permisson |
| 04:19.05 | rozzin | Right, you need to unpack it as root :) |
| 04:19.27 | port | ? |
| 04:19.35 | port | sudo right |
| 04:19.40 | rozzin | Right. |
| 04:19.59 | rozzin | Just be sure that you unpack it *into the µSD filesystem*, |
| 04:20.17 | rozzin | and *not into your computer's filesystem* :) |
| 04:20.52 | port | ext3 is it primery or extended ? |
| 04:21.01 | port | parted |
| 04:21.22 | rozzin | Are you only going to have 1 partition? |
| 04:22.02 | port | dosnt the uimage go in fat 32 and tar in ex3 |
| 04:22.36 | rozzin | Not if you're booting with Qi, |
| 04:22.59 | rozzin | which you are if you installed Android. |
| 04:23.37 | port | uboot 1.3.2 |
| 04:23.50 | rozzin | I don't know where you're reading that from. |
| 04:23.53 | rozzin | :) |
| 04:24.27 | rozzin | You had to hold the AUX button to get into uboot, didn't you? |
| 04:24.34 | port | yes |
| 04:24.57 | rozzin | If you don't hold the AUX button, you boot through Qi, |
| 04:25.11 | rozzin | which is the newer bootloader. |
| 04:25.30 | rozzin | Android requires Qi, and the Android installer automatically installs Qi. |
| 04:25.53 | port | its says uboot |
| 04:26.01 | rozzin | "it"? |
| 04:26.37 | rozzin | What says uboot? |
| 04:27.15 | port | flashing the jffs2 and uimage from shr didnt work dam |
| 04:27.46 | rozzin | I don't understand what you're saying. |
| 04:28.07 | port | lol im at a blank now |
| 04:28.31 | rozzin | sighs. |
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| 04:28.46 | port | all i no is android is the only one i can get to work |
| 04:30.14 | port | going to try to flash a nother distro |
| 04:30.20 | naquan | port: can you tell me the way you installed android |
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| 04:31.26 | naquan | port: maybe the android installer flashed your bootloader with qi |
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| 04:31.39 | port | i put the files on to a partition that is ether ex2 or fat32 dont remember now and then boot from microsd |
| 04:31.52 | port | and works |
| 04:32.22 | naquan | where did you get those files? |
| 04:32.52 | naquan | there're 2 way to install android |
| 04:33.07 | naquan | 1 is install it directly on sd card |
| 04:33.30 | port | i have it on my vista pc .its a website that has aweekly build |
| 04:33.31 | rozzin | I may be out of date on this, |
| 04:33.46 | naquan | the other copy install files on sd card and then those file run and flash your phone with android image |
| 04:33.58 | rozzin | but last I checked there was no way to install Android on the µSD card-- |
| 04:34.21 | rozzin | there's an *installer* that you can load onto the µSD card, |
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| 04:34.49 | rozzin | and booting that installer results in Android being flashed into the Neo's onboard memory. |
| 04:35.05 | port | if you want give me your email ill send you the site or stand by ill log on to vista and come back to thr irc |
| 04:35.13 | port | yes |
| 04:35.37 | port | it work great android |
| 04:35.44 | rozzin | http://freerunner.android.koolu.com/release-files |
| 04:35.45 | naquan | the email's naq2112@yahoo.com |
| 04:35.48 | rozzin | port: Is that the site? |
| 04:36.02 | naquan | i must go now |
| 04:36.06 | naquan | see you later |
| 04:36.11 | port | no not koolu |
| 04:36.22 | port | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:37.39 | port | my email is blackfalcon1@sapo.pt ill get back to you |
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| 04:43.36 | port | naquan you there |
| 04:43.56 | rozzin | naquan has gone, I think. |
| 04:44.09 | port | k |
| 04:44.53 | rozzin | So, URL? |
| 04:45.13 | port | ? |
| 04:46.11 | rozzin | You said, "if you want give me your email ill send you the site or stand by ill log on to vista and come back to thr irc". |
| 04:46.30 | port | ok |
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| 04:47.04 | rozzin | You were going to bring back a URL, no? :) |
| 04:47.24 | port | http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/ |
| 04:47.53 | rozzin | Ah. |
| 04:48.01 | port | see lol |
| 04:48.13 | rozzin | Right, same thing as on the Koolu page. |
| 04:48.34 | port | koolu quit |
| 04:48.41 | rozzin | See, right there--it says, "he automated install process should begin. It installs the Qi bootloader" |
| 04:49.19 | rozzin | Are we on the same page (metaphorically speaking...) yet? :) |
| 04:49.24 | port | true |
| 04:50.07 | port | but then to install a nother distro do i have to flash the nand? |
| 04:50.14 | rozzin | No. |
| 04:50.42 | rozzin | You can just install other distros onto a µSD card, and boot off of the card. |
| 04:50.43 | port | so to flash i need jssf2 and uboot thats it |
| 04:50.57 | rozzin | Pardon? |
| 04:51.22 | port | but i only works with android with the card i have. |
| 04:51.31 | rozzin | Because you're doing it wrong :) |
| 04:51.55 | port | iv try doing the same thing with everyouther distro and doesnt work |
| 04:52.18 | rozzin | What I'm saying is that you *do not need to flash with dfu-util*. |
| 04:52.23 | port | brain fart probably lol |
| 04:52.57 | rozzin | You can *just format the uSD as ext3 and unpack a tarball onto it*. |
| 04:53.13 | port | ok lets say i want to install a distro that isnt android how do i do that |
| 04:54.17 | rozzin | You're using gparted to partition/format the µSD? |
| 04:54.57 | port | so the uimage goes in there to |
| 04:55.11 | port | yes |
| 04:55.17 | port | gparted |
| 04:55.36 | rozzin | No, no uImage. |
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| 04:55.52 | port | where does that go? |
| 04:55.58 | rozzin | It doesn't. |
| 04:56.01 | port | k |
| 04:56.25 | port | so just jffs2 |
| 04:56.28 | rozzin | No. |
| 04:56.39 | rozzin | No jffs2, either :) |
| 04:56.40 | port | lol |
| 04:56.48 | port | tarball my bad |
| 04:57.12 | rozzin | Hm. |
| 04:57.16 | rozzin | I understand why I'm confusing you-- |
| 04:57.56 | port | the problem is extracting the tarball |
| 04:58.05 | rozzin | The `installing SHR' page tells you to use df-util and flash into NAND. |
| 04:58.33 | rozzin | Let's back up a little, shall we? :) |
| 04:58.47 | rozzin | Take the µSD out of the Neo, and put it into your PC. |
| 04:58.54 | port | k |
| 04:59.05 | rozzin | Run gparted, |
| 04:59.26 | port | im on vista now lol |
| 04:59.29 | rozzin | repartition the µSD: create 1 primary partition, format it as ext3. |
| 04:59.55 | rozzin | Oh. Um..., I gather that Windows can't write ext3 filesystems? :) |
| 05:00.01 | port | yep |
| 05:00.06 | port | but go on |
| 05:00.17 | rozzin | Bah. Windows is not ready for the desktop.... |
| 05:00.20 | rozzin | Yeah, anyway :) |
| 05:00.22 | port | ill see if it me doing something wrong |
| 05:00.48 | rozzin | So, now you've got your µSD with one (primary) ext3 partition. |
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| 05:01.15 | rozzin | Mount the µSD, |
| 05:01.32 | rozzin | cd into the mountpoint, |
| 05:01.42 | port | ? |
| 05:01.43 | rozzin | and unpack the SHR tarball with sudo. |
| 05:01.47 | port | k |
| 05:02.17 | port | i dont now haw to unpack in the terminal |
| 05:02.30 | port | that probably way |
| 05:02.46 | rozzin | It's extremely important that you unpack it into that mountpoint, not into your PC's filesystem. |
| 05:03.04 | rozzin | I guess that's why they just say to flash it into the onboard NAND with dfu-util.... |
| 05:03.13 | port | ? mountpoint |
| 05:03.23 | rozzin | Mmm. |
| 05:03.39 | rozzin | You're coming from Windows, so this is new terminology for you.... |
| 05:03.45 | port | yes |
| 05:04.12 | rozzin | I have to calibrate :) |
| 05:04.13 | port | iv been opening the tarball with the file opener |
| 05:04.24 | rozzin | Just how new are you to unix-like systems? |
| 05:04.43 | port | on ubuntu 9.10 6 months |
| 05:04.56 | rozzin | Mmmmm. |
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| 05:05.12 | port | now i see where the problem is |
| 05:05.32 | rozzin | I'd hate to be the guy who got you confused enough to ruin your system :( |
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| 05:05.47 | port | im all about lerning |
| 05:06.12 | port | i have a old laptop laying around hehe |
| 05:06.40 | port | cant i just open it from the desktop? |
| 05:06.48 | rozzin | Do you know about how the unix filesystem just looks like one big, unified hierarchy (no `drive letters')? |
| 05:07.27 | port | you talking abouth the filesystem |
| 05:09.25 | rozzin | I'll take that as a `no', I guess. |
| 05:09.27 | rozzin | Hm. |
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| 05:10.30 | rozzin | I hate to leave you hanging, |
| 05:10.30 | port | im probably just wasting your time. it for now is out of my area intill a learn some more |
| 05:11.09 | port | its fine you been more then helpfull thanks |
| 05:11.24 | port | not there yet lol |
| 05:11.25 | rozzin | it's just getting to be past my bedtime, here :) |
| 05:11.33 | port | samehere |
| 05:11.47 | port | peaceout thanks agian |
| 05:13.06 | rozzin | It's sort-of pleasantly surprising to discover that people other than old unix-heads are interested in the Neos :) |
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| 05:18.54 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:19.54 | slaxxer | should i use it on the latest unstable shr? |
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| 05:32.26 | naquan | slaxxer: where did you get that .31 kernel? i think the latest is 2.6.29? |
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| 05:41.43 | naquan | oh god, i can't install anything on my cheap 1G Transcend, i guess that's the reason they give it for free. :( |
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| 05:48.10 | slaxxer | http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/ |
| 05:48.31 | slaxxer | lost my ssh somehow |
| 05:48.57 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:49.04 | mwester | Check in the sofa pillows; I find lots of things there. |
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| 05:50.53 | slaxxer | mwester any updated kernels at your place?? i failed to find the cushins |
| 05:51.12 | mwester | Nope, I haven't had any time at all to work on this stuff :( |
| 05:51.47 | slaxxer | which u use/ n900? |
| 05:54.20 | slaxxer | hmm the shr wizard |
| 05:57.22 | slaxxer | so watsup a job an family? |
| 05:58.52 | slaxxer | naquan put it in a camera an format it that way then try again |
| 05:59.16 | slaxxer | might just fix it quickly |
| 05:59.53 | mwester | Job and family never used to get in the way; but with the economy so screwed here, I have take work where I find it... this year it's across an international border, at a company that's so security paranoid that they even kill long-lived HTTPS connections, so I'm totally isolated without even tunnels most of the time. :( |
| 05:59.59 | slaxxer | any luck with that kernel? |
| 06:00.24 | slaxxer | dangit |
| 06:00.30 | mwester | And of course, with roaming fees what they are, it's pointless to try to take a gta0x along to work with. :( |
| 06:00.35 | slaxxer | eastern europe? |
| 06:00.39 | mwester | So I put it all on the shelf for a while. |
| 06:00.53 | slaxxer | so they dont take it |
| 06:00.57 | mwester | No - north america. I think eastern europe wouold be a better place. |
| 06:01.24 | slaxxer | so canada? |
| 06:01.52 | mwester | By the time our current set of politicians gets finished with the US, we'll be basically indistinguishable from an eastern european country and economy. |
| 06:02.16 | mwester | So yeah, I have to comute up to Canada to find work. That's how bad it is in the US mid-west. |
| 06:02.25 | Undrwater | closer to hegemony? |
| 06:02.55 | slaxxer | nobody likes change any less that people with short term memory loss |
| 06:03.38 | Undrwater | we californians are looking to cross the border into mexico to find work and dodge bullets |
| 06:04.01 | slaxxer | hasnt man proven beyond a reasonable dought that man cannot rule man\ |
| 06:04.25 | Undrwater | an anarchist! hoorah! |
| 06:04.32 | mwester | Yeah, the "joke" I heard from some Texas-based co-workers was that the illegal aliens are now Americans fleeing into Mexico. |
| 06:05.21 | slaxxer | even if u get a cool man for fifty years then he dies an your stuck with yet another turd-buket |
| 06:05.23 | Undrwater | the movie "a day without a gringo" is in the works |
| 06:07.51 | slaxxer | i decided a long time ago that an old house is better than a new house any day of the week so i have stayed here for 27 years |
| 06:09.30 | slaxxer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:53.01 | naquan | slaxxer: what's the difference between a camera and my card reader? i don't have any camera that use uSD cards :( |
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| 09:27.17 | Daramarak | Anyone know if it is safe to upgrade unstable now, or is the flashing still preferrable. |
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| 13:23.47 | pbaxter | hi all |
| 13:24.04 | gonzoism | hi |
| 13:26.04 | tomcatek | hi |
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| 13:45.00 | Bish | is there anyway |
| 13:45.08 | Bish | to copy all numbers from the sim carddà |
| 13:45.10 | Bish | with om |
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| 16:29.14 | pieterc | hey |
| 16:29.58 | pieterc | today a friend's portable was out of batery, and he had a usb recharger with him |
| 16:30.21 | pieterc | so I said, sure, i'll put my moko in hostmode and you can recharge using my batterypower |
| 16:30.38 | pieterc | but apparently it pulled quite hard because my moko got extremey hot |
| 16:30.56 | pieterc | and the batery is falsely indicating his powerlevel is 0 |
| 16:31.04 | pieterc | any clues? |
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| 18:50.34 | pieterc | moko got stolen/lost :( |
| 18:52.16 | fgau | uh \o/ |
| 18:53.55 | tomcatek | :( |
| 18:54.34 | pieterc | I was looking forward to FOSDEM but apperently now I won't have a phone... So depressing |
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| 19:05.28 | *** topic/#openmoko is Users of Openmoko Mobile Phone Hardware | WikiReader users, please join #openmoko-wikireader | Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | New Users read http://wiki.openmoko.org + http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | Make sure to check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 | SHR images: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ lite-om-gta02.tar.gz or full-om-gta02.tar.gz |
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| 19:14.22 | pieterc | I've sent an email to my provider to ask for a location lookup |
| 19:14.29 | pieterc | they can track that right? |
| 19:15.09 | tomcatek | they should be able to do that |
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| 19:16.02 | pieterc | I said the machine was of great emotional value and the possibility the finder can work with it is minimal |
| 19:16.35 | tomcatek | I use this: http://www.opkg.org/package_92.html |
| 19:16.45 | pieterc | yea, it's too late to install eh |
| 19:17.00 | pieterc | I wish I had |
| 19:17.15 | pieterc | EVERYONE: PLEASE INSTALL SMS SENTRY OR YOU'LL REGRET IT ;) |
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| 19:22.04 | tomcatek | hehe |
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| 19:36.32 | pieterc | sms sentry not installed by default? |
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