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| 02:24.14 | naquan | hi everyone, I tried the debian install.sh script but the "tar" calls return many errors, could you please share with me some experience of installing debian on freerunner? I don't know if SHR is sufficient as host OS on flash or not. |
| 02:33.22 | naquan | i'm sorry, don't bother it now. I found that the script use other tar version than the host OS's. |
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| 03:01.16 | slaxxer | i havent gotten gsm to work with the debian install |
| 03:09.08 | naquan | slaxxer: thank you, i'm search a distribution that can install a pdf reader. The opkg on SHR din't work well enough :( |
| 03:09.53 | slaxxer | neovento comes with one if im not incorrect |
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| 03:20.46 | naquan | slaxxer: wow, thank you very much, it looks cool :) i'll try |
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| 03:25.06 | slaxxer | hackable1 may suit your needs |
| 03:32.58 | naquan | slaxxer: thank you :) |
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| 04:27.39 | slaxxer | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091204/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_holiday_tech_gifts_budget;_ylt=AmZUbvoMowbyxxrARjHv2kEjtBAF;_ylu=X3oDMTMxOTIwZWFvBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkxMjA0L3VzX3RlY19ob2xpZGF5X3RlY2hfZ2lmdHNfYnVkZ2V0BGNwb3MDMQRwb3MDMwRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3J5BHNsawNmdWxsbmJzcHN0b3I- |
| 04:28.12 | slaxxer | 3rd on the list |
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| 04:37.26 | gonzoism | :) |
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| 07:55.29 | Psi | hm.. is there a command i can use in a script to make the vibrator go for a few seconds? |
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| 07:56.32 | ndnihil | I think it's accessible via dbus |
| 07:56.38 | ndnihil | if I remember right |
| 07:56.40 | Psi | want to make a cron task for every 5min that makes the phone vibrate if its not on charge. Since my phone is always either on charge or suspended in my pocket i figure a vibrate every 5min will stop me missing sms/calls. |
| 07:56.57 | ndnihil | that wont work if it's suspended |
| 07:57.03 | Psi | thats the point |
| 07:57.21 | Psi | if i get a sms phone will wake up and vibrate every 5min until i suspend it again |
| 07:57.47 | ndnihil | you'll have to disable auto-suspend |
| 07:57.58 | Psi | i always do that |
| 07:58.06 | Psi | much prefer to suspend it myself |
| 07:58.23 | ndnihil | agreed |
| 07:58.36 | ndnihil | in that case, try dbus |
| 07:58.41 | Psi | thanks |
| 07:58.49 | Psi | ill have a look at it |
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| 08:13.06 | PaulFertser | Psi: either that or tweak sysfs nodes directly. |
| 08:15.13 | Psi | is there a vibrate on off one? |
| 08:17.04 | PaulFertser | Psi: /sys/class/leds/neo1973:vibrator |
| 08:18.55 | rddDavid51 | hi all, |
| 08:20.28 | rddDavid51 | I use the latest shr-u and updated it today, I can't turn gsm antenna on and get this message in fsousaged.log : UsageController [ERROR] <8 resources>: Resource GSM can't be enabled: |
| 08:21.23 | rddDavid51 | any one have the same problem or a solution or an idea of something to check ? |
| 08:22.12 | BillK_ | rddDavid51: try a couple of take battery out and reboot cycles ... |
| 08:22.33 | BillK_ | I am finding that (possibly dbus) is very fragile at the moment :( |
| 08:23.24 | rddDavid51 | BillK_: I've already rebooted some times, I will continue and see if I get it working. |
| 08:24.48 | BillK_ | try battery out for 30 secs or so - some times the hardware locks up. |
| 08:25.37 | rddDavid51 | BillK_: I read somewhere (but don't remember where ML or IRC) that it may be because one of the daemons in vala starts too fast and request something to a daemon in python that is not up because it's slower |
| 08:26.23 | Psi | PaulFertser: heh, that works well |
| 08:26.25 | Psi | thanks |
| 08:26.32 | PaulFertser | Psi: welcome |
| 08:26.46 | rddDavid51 | BillK_: But I can't find where and I don't remember which daemon to restart, I tried all the shr and fso ones in different order with no luck |
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| 09:22.08 | PaulFertser | likes how the official reaction on bug 5337 confirms what he said earlier about nokia, same story, different faces, same outcome. |
| 09:22.26 | PaulFertser | N900 can't get a fix without the internet connection, LOL |
| 09:22.33 | PaulFertser | GPS fix i mean. |
| 09:22.43 | Weiss | PaulFertser: link? |
| 09:23.52 | PaulFertser | Weiss: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5337 |
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| 09:50.24 | Psi | script works |
| 09:50.30 | Psi | vibrates every 5min |
| 09:50.36 | Psi | as long as its not on charge |
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| 09:52.17 | rddDavid51 | BillK_: Thx for your help, I changed my battery and IÂ got the PIN dialog. I'll see if it works on next reboot with this battery. Even thouth I think the battery or its emptyness should have anything to do with GSM |
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| 09:58.34 | PaulFertser | Psi: yo, do not forget to share with the community ;) |
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| 10:08.01 | Psi | here it is http://pastebin.com/f7bfd2003 |
| 10:08.08 | Psi | not exactly complex :) |
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| 10:08.19 | Psi | i call it from cron |
| 10:09.03 | PaulFertser | Psi: should i post it to the community ML for you? ;) |
| 10:09.29 | PaulFertser | Psi: it's just an interesting and probably useful configuration you did there. |
| 10:09.44 | Psi | go for it :) |
| 10:16.29 | spacepluk | hi, how should I do an opkg upgrade? I've tried with vala terminal and though ssh but the phone always hangs and can't finish the upgrade. |
| 10:16.45 | spacepluk | s/though/through/ |
| 10:18.53 | fredrin | PaulFertser: you got a n900? |
| 10:19.29 | PaulFertser | fredrin: sure not |
| 10:19.45 | PaulFertser | i don need no shit in ma poket |
| 10:19.50 | fredrin | heh |
| 10:20.10 | fredrin | what you dont like? |
| 10:24.32 | tomcatek | spacepluk: make some swap. probably opkg uses all avaliable memory |
| 10:30.54 | PaulFertser | fredrin: the price, the closeness, the nokia attitude. |
| 10:31.40 | fredrin | everything is close relative to the FR |
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| 10:32.02 | fredrin | :) |
| 10:32.23 | PaulFertser | fredrin: n900 is too damn close :( |
| 10:32.28 | fredrin | and the price is too much, that's true, but compared to iphone it's cheap |
| 10:32.50 | fredrin | but more open than most other phones i know about |
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| 10:36.32 | BillK_ | rddDavid51: battery could be problem if it cant supply the current when needed (i.e, when GSM is transmitting) - how old is it? |
| 10:37.27 | spydon | which is the most stable dist right now? and which one has the best sound on phonecalls? |
| 10:37.32 | rddDavid51 | In fact the battery that didn't work was full and the one which worked was nealy empty |
| 10:37.58 | rddDavid51 | they are both batteries I got while gette the buzz fix |
| 10:38.16 | rddDavid51 | so about 3 month ago |
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| 10:41.22 | rddDavid51 | BillK_: maybe I was lucky the one time I got the GSM work and the fact that I changed the battery has nothing to do with it |
| 10:41.53 | rddDavid51 | previous shr-u boots fine on the battery that didn't work |
| 10:42.51 | spydon | is the audio settings okay for phone calls in SHR or are the sound very low? |
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| 10:43.04 | Psi | i never had any problems with the audio in shr |
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| 10:43.20 | spydon | Psi, okay, nice |
| 10:43.22 | Psi | not on phone calls anyway |
| 10:43.29 | Psi | but i have gta01 tho |
| 10:43.35 | spydon | ah |
| 10:43.44 | spydon | anyone who have gta02? |
| 10:43.56 | md2k7 | spydon: I have, with buzz fix |
| 10:43.57 | rddDavid51 | spydon: latest shr-u has sliders to tune the mic and speaker volume |
| 10:44.04 | Psi | shr just came out of a big change, its probably not the most stable atm |
| 10:44.09 | md2k7 | spydon: it's not bad (i.e. people don't complain) |
| 10:44.29 | spydon | okay :P |
| 10:44.39 | spydon | Psi, which one would you say is the most stable then? |
| 10:44.46 | spydon | and I wont go with android |
| 10:45.01 | Psi | i can only say which image was the most stable for gta01 |
| 10:45.06 | md2k7 | spydon: MOTD of IRC still says 20090808... |
| 10:45.31 | md2k7 | spydon: but with that one, you must not do opkg upgrade |
| 10:45.45 | md2k7 | spydon: or install anything, which leads to packages being upgraded |
| 10:45.54 | spydon | Yeah I know, that sucks :P |
| 10:47.20 | ssam | the is shr-testing now |
| 10:47.42 | md2k7 | ssam: how is it? and from when? :P |
| 10:48.52 | Psi | probably here http://shr.bearstech.com/ |
| 10:49.16 | ssam | http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.shr.devel/1468 |
| 10:50.44 | md2k7 | ssam: seems wonderful |
| 10:51.00 | md2k7 | ssam: maybe the testing goes into NAND and the unstable onto SD |
| 10:51.15 | ssam | indeed, i'll prob flash to it today (have been having fun with recent shr-u) |
| 10:53.57 | Psi | goes to watch sgu then sleep, nite |
| 10:54.07 | md2k7 | bb Psi |
| 10:54.25 | md2k7 | the only thing I have disliked on the FR from the start (apart from HW issues) is the microSD being below battery and SIM |
| 10:54.37 | md2k7 | I would rather have it hotpluggable |
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| 12:32.12 | spacepluk | tomcatek: thanks, I seems that it's working :) |
| 12:32.34 | spacepluk | s/I/It/ |
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| 12:42.10 | tomcatek | spacepluk: no problem :] |
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| 13:04.12 | spacepluk | how do I enable gps? I can't find the option in the settings/wiki. |
| 13:05.56 | spacepluk | Oh, I've just found it |
| 13:10.07 | tomcatek | spacepluk: if any program requests GPS it should be turned on automaticly |
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| 13:16.04 | badcloud | tomatek, would that mean on exit the GPS device would be shut off? |
| 13:16.31 | tomcatek | qyes |
| 13:16.36 | tomcatek | yes |
| 13:16.47 | tomcatek | at least in SHR :] |
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| 13:59.52 | spacepluk | I can't get gps to work. I guess I'm too optimistic trying from the couch :D |
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| 14:05.15 | Defiant- | gps doesn't work indoor |
| 14:07.46 | tomcatek | spacepluk: if You are feeling lucky, You can try putting FR nest to the window. |
| 14:08.01 | tomcatek | s/nest/next |
| 14:08.21 | ndnihil | surprisingly gps on the FR works indoors here |
| 14:08.33 | ndnihil | where my garmin handheld has no signal at all |
| 14:08.45 | ndnihil | this is an old house with plaster over wire mesh |
| 14:08.52 | ndnihil | lives in a faraday cage |
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| 14:24.39 | mwester | has one of those "faraday cages" as well, but (poorly done) renovations by some so-called handyman in the past made it a rather "leaky" faraday cage. :) |
| 14:25.40 | mwester | also has a squirrel living in the attic that he cannot seem to evict, so it's not just the plaster walls that are compromised! |
| 14:26.23 | ndnihil | I've gotten rid of lots of squirrels |
| 14:26.28 | ndnihil | I trap them |
| 14:26.36 | ndnihil | little fuckers love peanut butter |
| 14:26.48 | ndnihil | gf made me promise I wouldn't kill them |
| 14:26.57 | ndnihil | so I dropped them off outside a wolf sanctuary :) |
| 14:27.05 | SM2k | ndnihil: doesn't mean the dog won't do your dirty work for you though |
| 14:27.19 | ndnihil | I bet wolves love peanut butter flavored squirrel |
| 14:27.24 | SM2k | or a pack of ravenous wolves. that has an ever better ring to it actually |
| 14:27.27 | mwester | Gah! I have the same problem -- the wife won't let me kill the bugger. And the live trap doesn't seem to work. |
| 14:27.49 | ndnihil | I think last count was 24 that I had relocated |
| 14:28.08 | ndnihil | furry little bastards kept shitting on my car |
| 14:29.09 | mwester | We're hoping, if finances permit, to tear it down this coming summer and have a new structure built at least to the point where it's livable by next winter... but with modern building materials (metalized films on windows, etc), I suspect the new house will also be somewhat of a faraday cage. |
| 14:29.56 | mwester | But without the squirrel. |
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| 14:58.17 | pbaxter | hi all |
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| 15:00.41 | spacepluk | tomcatek: the window is too far away, I'm feeling lazy today :D |
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| 15:01.12 | tomcatek | hehehe |
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| 15:18.08 | Ddorda | hey. i'm using SHR testing latest version, for some reason i can't onnect to the device with SSH. can i have help? |
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| 15:19.12 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: did you set the root password? |
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| 15:20.00 | pabs3 | I get this error on today's SHR upgrade, is SHR dropping dropbear for openssh?? http://pastebin.com/m27c23056 |
| 15:20.36 | Ddorda | PaulFertser: no |
| 15:20.44 | Ddorda | but i'm not even asked for pass |
| 15:20.49 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: no wonder then, openssh doesn't allow a blank root password. |
| 15:21.05 | PaulFertser | pabs3: yes, shr is using openssh from now on. |
| 15:21.10 | Ddorda | so i need to change my root pass first? |
| 15:22.33 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: sure |
| 15:24.33 | pabs3 | PaulFertser: any idea what the rationale is? I would have thought dropbear would use less RAM and thus be better for at least the FR |
| 15:25.37 | PaulFertser | pabs3: not really, sorry. Ask TAsn . |
| 15:25.54 | pabs3 | TAsn: ^ |
| 15:26.06 | mwester | discussion is in the shr ml archives. |
| 15:26.26 | Ddorda | PaulFertser: i gave it a pass, still can't connect. i have restarted sshd, still - nothing |
| 15:27.48 | pabs3 | mwester: any particular month/year? |
| 15:28.06 | mwester | It was a while ago - months, I think -- you'll have to search. |
| 15:28.07 | PaulFertser | pabs3: it was recent i think |
| 15:28.24 | pabs3 | goes digging |
| 15:28.25 | mwester | Was it discussed a second time, then? Could be; I've been busy.. |
| 15:28.39 | pabs3 | presumes shr-devel was the list |
| 15:29.11 | mwester | be assured it was a wise decision. :D |
| 15:29.41 | slaxxer | arightythen we have a testing image |
| 15:30.02 | Ddorda | PaulFertser: any idea? |
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| 15:32.33 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: start sshd in debug mode... |
| 15:32.54 | Ddorda | PaulFertser: how do i do that? |
| 15:33.01 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: man sshd first, probably |
| 15:33.27 | pabs3 | aha, it was shr-user rather than shr-devel |
| 15:33.39 | pabs3 | http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-user/2009-May/thread.html#375 |
| 15:33.47 | slaxxer | Ddorda did u reboot atleast one time? |
| 15:38.12 | Ddorda | slaxxer: indeed |
| 15:38.21 | Ddorda | i will try to reboot again |
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| 15:56.36 | Ddorda | PaulFertser: to read the man from the device seems to be very bad to my poor eyes :P |
| 15:57.03 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: you say you want to ssh from somewhere, i assume that's a more powerful device with a bigger screen |
| 15:57.05 | tomcatek | Ddorda: You can always make the font bigger :P |
| 15:58.00 | Ddorda | PaulFertser: now when i try it, i see that there's no such man (in my Ubuntu and in the device |
| 15:58.54 | Ddorda | in SHR i don't even have man, and in Ubuntu i don't have sshd entry |
| 16:00.00 | lindi- | Ddorda: maybe you have not installed sshd on ubuntu? |
| 16:00.17 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: probably because you do not have sshd installed. But you could have used google to search for the man page. Just use -d option |
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| 16:10.40 | Ddorda | PaulFertser: the debug said that the address 192.168.0.202 on port 22 is already in use |
| 16:10.44 | Ddorda | how do i change the address |
| 16:10.45 | Ddorda | ? |
| 16:11.12 | tomcatek | Ddorda: did You reove dropbear? |
| 16:11.42 | Ddorda | i didn't remove anything, it's a clean SHR install |
| 16:11.46 | tomcatek | if You are using openssh |
| 16:11.50 | tomcatek | ou |
| 16:12.05 | tomcatek | strange |
| 16:12.40 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: means you still have sshd started in background and trying to start another instance on the same port |
| 16:13.00 | Ddorda | i see. le me stop it :P |
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| 16:14.37 | Ddorda | PaulFertser: it's listening, but when i try to connect from my PC, it doesn't even say anything on the device |
| 16:14.58 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: then probably you need to check your networking setup. Try pinging first. |
| 16:16.24 | Ddorda | PaulFertser: ping works from the PC to the device |
| 16:17.01 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: are you sure you're trying to ping 192.168.0.202 from 192.168.0.200? |
| 16:17.32 | Ddorda | i'm not sure i'm 192.168.0.200, but i'm pinging 202 and it works |
| 16:18.53 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: then start ssh with -d лÑÑ |
| 16:18.57 | PaulFertser | too |
| 16:19.14 | Ddorda | how can i check if i'm 192.168.0.200? |
| 16:19.34 | Ddorda | i have just tried to ping this address from the moko and got no responde |
| 16:19.38 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: ifconfig |
| 16:20.20 | Ddorda | how odd, i shows that i am ...200 :S |
| 16:20.26 | Ddorda | but ping doesn't work |
| 16:21.28 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: check your routing on host etc |
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| 16:23.35 | Ddorda | PaulFertser: now i see that i have eth0 and eth1, on eth0 the addr is 192.168.0.202 and on eth1 it's 192.168.0.200 |
| 16:24.19 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: both on host? well, that's the source of the problem |
| 16:25.27 | Ddorda | i see. and how can i fix it? |
| 16:28.44 | md2k7 | Ddorda: you should not be on the same subnet with your host LAN and the connection to your phone |
| 16:29.47 | Ddorda | i' not using any host LAN.. i'm connected with wireless... |
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| 16:30.09 | md2k7 | host WLAN then.. doesnt make a difference |
| 16:30.54 | md2k7 | Ddorda: it's going to be very hard if you have exactly the same IP on both your PC and your phone |
| 16:31.37 | md2k7 | Ddorda: either get another IP from your router, or change the IP of your phone... |
| 16:31.47 | Ddorda | but i don't.. have a look: |
| 16:31.48 | Ddorda | http://ddorda.pastebin.com/d42e8e41c |
| 16:32.01 | Ddorda | i'm connected with the wlan0 i guess |
| 16:32.46 | Ddorda | and the problem is on eth0 and eth1 |
| 16:33.35 | md2k7 | Ddorda: eth0 might be your LAN card |
| 16:33.40 | md2k7 | even if it's not connected |
| 16:33.51 | md2k7 | configure something else, not in the 192.168.0.X range |
| 16:34.00 | md2k7 | or shut it down |
| 16:34.09 | Ddorda | how can i shut it down? |
| 16:34.14 | md2k7 | ifconfig eth0 down |
| 16:34.37 | md2k7 | (altough i think that that is supposed to be deprecated now) |
| 16:34.42 | md2k7 | (the ifconfig) |
| 16:35.41 | Ddorda | well, it still doesn't work |
| 16:36.27 | md2k7 | still can't ping your phone? eth0 gone from ifconfig? |
| 16:37.09 | Ddorda | i can ping my phone - i can't ping from the phone to the pc |
| 16:37.20 | md2k7 | mhm.. |
| 16:38.07 | md2k7 | I could imagine something like a firewall blocking pings |
| 16:38.57 | md2k7 | but if ping from host works, ping from phone to 192.168.0.200 should work as well |
| 16:39.06 | md2k7 | I'm out of ideas |
| 16:39.42 | Ddorda | :( |
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| 16:45.33 | Ddorda | okay, i think i got on something |
| 16:45.52 | Ddorda | i disconnected and connected again the phone |
| 16:45.55 | Ddorda | ifconfig: |
| 16:46.31 | Ddorda | http://ddorda.pastebin.com/d5cf38396 |
| 16:47.30 | Ddorda | md2k7: do you see it? |
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| 16:48.07 | md2k7 | Ddorda: you lost your ip and need to configure it again |
| 16:48.54 | md2k7 | Ddorda: there are network managers for that |
| 16:49.01 | md2k7 | Ddorda: which distro do you use on host? |
| 16:49.08 | Ddorda | Ubuntu |
| 16:49.56 | md2k7 | Ddorda: you can right-click on the network icon and go to change network settings |
| 16:50.10 | md2k7 | or sth similar, I have a German version of it |
| 16:50.33 | Ddorda | okay |
| 16:50.49 | md2k7 | but you can also configure your IP each time you connect your phone :> |
| 16:51.21 | md2k7 | there you have your interfaces, which you can configure to an ip |
| 16:51.38 | md2k7 | and this will then be set each time you connect |
| 16:51.43 | md2k7 | automatically |
| 16:52.34 | Ddorda | what adress to use? |
| 16:52.38 | Ddorda | address* |
| 16:53.33 | Ddorda | I have address, mask and gateway |
| 16:54.01 | md2k7 | 192.168.0.200, mask 255.255.255.0, set gateway to something in the range |
| 16:54.05 | md2k7 | IMHO that really sucks |
| 16:54.11 | md2k7 | it is a must-field |
| 16:54.15 | md2k7 | and it borks routing |
| 16:54.18 | md2k7 | mhm |
| 16:54.25 | md2k7 | *pondering if that is a good idea* |
| 16:54.51 | md2k7 | aaah |
| 16:54.57 | md2k7 | set gateway to 0.0.0.0 |
| 16:55.11 | md2k7 | but I'm still not sure that your routing = internet will work afterwards.. |
| 16:55.28 | md2k7 | when in doubt, just remove the config and you should be up again :P |
| 16:55.38 | Ddorda | i don't mind if the internet will work for now |
| 16:55.38 | Ddorda | first i want to connect the device :P |
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| 16:57.50 | Ddorda | md2k7: ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: Connection refused |
| 16:59.02 | md2k7 | Ddorda: ping works? |
| 16:59.23 | Ddorda | indeed |
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| 16:59.56 | Ddorda | let me check if from phone it works too |
| 17:00.16 | Ddorda | no.. :( |
| 17:01.21 | md2k7 | I really can't imagine why. if it goes in one direction, it must go the other way, too! |
| 17:01.26 | md2k7 | -.- |
| 17:03.48 | Ddorda | :( |
| 17:05.03 | md2k7 | I could only imagine you're not pinging right, or a firewall blocking packets |
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| 17:05.19 | md2k7 | or a broken image... |
| 17:05.24 | md2k7 | on the phone |
| 17:05.57 | md2k7 | but that'd have to be very broken, because networking seems basically ok as the interface comes up on the host |
| 17:06.59 | Ddorda | md2k7: i'm up to something |
| 17:07.25 | Ddorda | ifconfig on the phone gave me usb0 with the IP ...202 |
| 17:07.43 | md2k7 | yep, that's the default one |
| 17:08.27 | Ddorda | so does it means that the device is 202? |
| 17:10.21 | md2k7 | Ddorda: yes |
| 17:10.33 | md2k7 | 192.168.0.202 |
| 17:11.21 | md2k7 | your host on usb is 192.168.0.200 (or sth else in the range, apart from phone ip), the phone is 192.168.0.202 |
| 17:12.58 | Ddorda | i'm sick of it, what went wrong? :( |
| 17:14.22 | Ddorda | i believe it's something with the host, i will try on a different computer |
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| 17:24.12 | md2k7 | yay, new SHR boot splash is really stylish |
| 17:24.30 | md2k7 | <3 |
| 17:24.58 | md2k7 | and there is a new console font which is readable without a looking glass... wow |
| 17:25.28 | Ddorda | md2k7: it is. but what is it worth without the ability to connect with the host? :P |
| 17:25.45 | md2k7 | Ddorda: I will try if mine does |
| 17:26.14 | md2k7 | Ddorda: but I guess it wouldn't have been branched to testing if it wouldn't even connect to ssh |
| 17:26.50 | Ddorda | i think that something is wrong wih my PC.. |
| 17:27.05 | md2k7 | help! where's my theme... I see all white :P |
| 17:27.28 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: something is wrong with how you configure your network |
| 17:27.34 | md2k7 | but nice speed |
| 17:27.59 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: just ensure the configuration is sane and it'll work. |
| 17:28.10 | Ddorda | PaulFertser: i guess so, but i have no idea what's wrong |
| 17:29.24 | Ddorda | PaulFertser: can you help me to make it sense? |
| 17:29.26 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: you say you have 192.168.0.0/24 on both eth0 and eth1. That is wrong. Either use 192.168.0.200/30 for eth1 (usb connection) or change both your eth1 and FR address to use some other subnet (probably 192.168.1.0/24) is ok. |
| 17:29.43 | md2k7 | PaulFertser: in theory, he just disabled eth0 |
| 17:30.05 | PaulFertser | md2k7: or that |
| 17:30.11 | md2k7 | PaulFertser: 192.168.1.0/24 is the subnet he uses for his wireless |
| 17:30.23 | md2k7 | so that won't work either |
| 17:30.24 | PaulFertser | md2k7: if he puts it down, he'll probably be able to connect |
| 17:30.49 | Ddorda | PaulFertser: that's what i did, and it didn't work |
| 17:30.58 | md2k7 | a lock screen |
| 17:31.00 | md2k7 | wow! |
| 17:31.08 | md2k7 | is in <3 with new shr :P |
| 17:31.10 | Ddorda | yes, the lock screen is amazing |
| 17:31.18 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: i recommend to use 192.168.0.200/30 for eth1 (usb connection) or change both your eth1 and FR ur eth1 and FR |
| 17:31.19 | Ddorda | and it is very fast |
| 17:31.38 | md2k7 | but the drag thingy is stolen from iphone, you know that, dear shr devs? :P |
| 17:31.48 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: after you do that, paste your "ip r" or "route" output from FR. |
| 17:31.54 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: from host, sorry |
| 17:32.38 | md2k7 | scrolling GTK lists (messages) doesn't seem to be any faster, however |
| 17:32.40 | md2k7 | sux |
| 17:32.49 | Ddorda | Error: an inet prefix is expected rather than "192.168.0.300/24". |
| 17:33.01 | md2k7 | 300 is a typo |
| 17:33.02 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: dude |
| 17:33.05 | md2k7 | (i hope) |
| 17:33.13 | md2k7 | because 300 doesn't fit in a byte ;-) |
| 17:33.19 | Ddorda | oh.. oopsy :P |
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| 17:34.23 | Ddorda | PaulFertser: http://ddorda.pastebin.com/d1ffacb36 |
| 17:35.08 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: you should set 192.168.0.200 as your host IP, here you seem to be using 192.168.0.202 (which is actually FR's). |
| 17:35.08 | md2k7 | Ddorda: you have set up the wrong IP, host needs to be 192.168.0.200 |
| 17:35.12 | md2k7 | :D |
| 17:35.49 | Ddorda | but it doesn't show up in ifconfig... odd.. anyway, how do i chage it? |
| 17:36.27 | md2k7 | Ddorda: if you set it up in GUI, then change it in GUI, preferably |
| 17:36.36 | md2k7 | otherwise it will always overwrite your settings again |
| 17:37.08 | Ddorda | md2k7: it's not from the GUI |
| 17:37.17 | Ddorda | in the GUI i set ..200 |
| 17:39.16 | Ddorda | ermm.. is it possible to force remove it? cause i don't see it anwhere but in this table |
| 17:39.44 | md2k7 | Ddorda: ip addr del 192.168.0.202/24 dev eth1 |
| 17:39.50 | md2k7 | but the /24 i'm not sure about |
| 17:39.58 | md2k7 | maybe /30? |
| 17:40.48 | Ddorda | dor@dor-laptop:~$ sudo ip addr del 192.168.0.202/24 dev eth1 |
| 17:40.48 | Ddorda | RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address |
| 17:40.57 | Ddorda | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:41.43 | md2k7 | seems interesting anyway, because I can't get such an entry |
| 17:41.51 | md2k7 | no matter how hard I try :P |
| 17:43.18 | md2k7 | maybe ip addr flush |
| 17:43.21 | md2k7 | ip addr flush eth1 |
| 17:43.22 | md2k7 | i mean |
| 17:43.39 | md2k7 | and then set up the ip again |
| 17:44.04 | Ddorda | http://ddorda.pastebin.com/dfa04b62 |
| 17:44.44 | md2k7 | just do sudo ip addr flush eth1 |
| 17:44.48 | md2k7 | and set up your ip again |
| 17:45.25 | md2k7 | / SSH login still takes forever though |
| 17:45.40 | md2k7 | boring |
| 17:46.22 | Ddorda | http://ddorda.pastebin.com/db94c634 |
| 17:46.57 | Ddorda | ./setneo = http://ddorda.pastebin.com/d5afe9fba |
| 17:47.05 | md2k7 | do an ip r before setneo? |
| 17:48.03 | Ddorda | http://ddorda.pastebin.com/d725351fe |
| 17:48.05 | md2k7 | aaah, 192.168.0.202 is a route... okay |
| 17:48.58 | Ddorda | does this fact make us closer to the solution? :D |
| 17:49.54 | md2k7 | not really if ping does not work :P |
| 17:50.08 | md2k7 | btw: sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/30 is wrong |
| 17:50.16 | md2k7 | it should be 192.168.0.200/30 |
| 17:50.33 | md2k7 | but that won't help your problem |
| 17:51.15 | md2k7 | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa |
| 17:51.17 | md2k7 | OUCH! |
| 17:51.23 | Ddorda | what..? |
| 17:51.34 | md2k7 | who the heck defined 192.168.0.200/30 as a host? |
| 17:51.40 | md2k7 | that is a network address :/ |
| 17:52.00 | md2k7 | you should set up e.g. 192.168.0.201 as host |
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| 17:53.10 | Ddorda | it's the line with the iptable? |
| 17:53.45 | md2k7 | 192.168.0.201 should be the IP of your host |
| 17:54.06 | md2k7 | and the stuff I posted above, that is just a correction of your script, will be useful to get the phone into the internet |
| 17:55.09 | Ddorda | ping from phone doesn't work |
| 17:55.26 | md2k7 | --> http://ddorda.pastebin.com/m41c47d52 |
| 17:55.41 | joerg_42 | seems you guys having fun :-P |
| 17:55.42 | md2k7 | and don't forget to flush before |
| 17:55.44 | md2k7 | yep, yep |
| 17:56.09 | md2k7 | joerg_42: I need some work therapy to recover from the shock that shr unstable still does not build for me |
| 17:56.15 | md2k7 | :P |
| 17:56.46 | joerg_42 | btw host always been ...200 |
| 17:56.55 | joerg_42 | FR ...202 |
| 17:57.12 | md2k7 | joerg_42: yes, but not if you use /30 as a netmask |
| 17:57.29 | md2k7 | 192.168.0.200/30 is a network address, not a host address |
| 17:57.56 | joerg_42 | I'm well aware of that |
| 17:58.09 | Ddorda | still not working |
| 17:58.09 | Ddorda | http://ddorda.pastebin.com/d4eda41dd |
| 17:58.28 | Ddorda | i mean the ping from the device is not working |
| 17:59.01 | md2k7 | pinging 192.168.0.201 now, did you? |
| 18:00.23 | Ddorda | yes |
| 18:00.30 | md2k7 | well, sry |
| 18:00.43 | md2k7 | maybe fire up wireshark |
| 18:01.00 | Ddorda | sounds like something new to learn |
| 18:01.32 | md2k7 | doesn't do magic, you could just have a look if any packets come in |
| 18:01.38 | md2k7 | but they probably don't |
| 18:02.13 | md2k7 | (which makes me wonder what the ping in the other direction does... well, might be a good idea to have a look after all) |
| 18:03.09 | Ddorda | what do you mean "in the other direction" |
| 18:03.54 | md2k7 | host -> fr |
| 18:04.39 | Ddorda | if i'll install wireshark, will you guide me please? |
| 18:05.14 | PaulFertser | I'd suggest just plain old boring tcpdump |
| 18:07.07 | Ddorda | PaulFertser: dor@dor-laptop:~$ tcpdump 192.168.0.202 |
| 18:07.07 | Ddorda | tcpdump: no suitable device found |
| 18:07.49 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: sudo tcpdump -n -v -i eth1 |
| 18:07.57 | DocScrutinizer-8 | PaulFertser: ethereal/ws for sure is easier to handle/understand/read by a "noob" |
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| 18:08.38 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer-8: i've never tried it :P |
| 18:08.40 | Ddorda | i don't think i get anything |
| 18:08.57 | DocScrutinizer-8 | incredible |
| 18:08.57 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: then your routing is still bad or firewall kicks in. |
| 18:08.57 | Ddorda | dor@dor-laptop:~$ sudo tcpdump -n -v -i eth1 |
| 18:08.57 | Ddorda | tcpdump: listening on eth1, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes |
| 18:09.01 | Ddorda | that's all i got |
| 18:09.17 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: you're supposed to try to ping FR after starting tcpdump in another terminal |
| 18:09.50 | Ddorda | still nothing |
| 18:10.04 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: then your routing is still bad or firewall kicks in. |
| 18:10.13 | DocScrutinizer-8 | use wireshark ;-) |
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| 18:11.01 | Ddorda | give me a minute to install it |
| 18:13.37 | Ddorda | i need to run it as a root? |
| 18:14.26 | Ddorda | DocScrutinizer-8: can you help me? |
| 18:14.55 | DocScrutinizer-8 | Ddorda: better run as root, yes |
| 18:14.56 | tomcatek | or maybye iptables -F to be sure, that firewall does notthing bad? |
| 18:15.15 | DocScrutinizer-8 | Ddorda: which distro? |
| 18:15.27 | PaulFertser | tomcatek: i've already told him about it but he somehow refuses to even think about iptables. |
| 18:15.34 | Ddorda | DocScrutinizer-8: Ubuntu |
| 18:15.42 | DocScrutinizer-8 | :-/ |
| 18:16.15 | tomcatek | hehe |
| 18:16.18 | DocScrutinizer-8 | anyway, prolly many ppl to know how to admin ubuntu. I'm not one of them |
| 18:16.54 | DocScrutinizer-8 | Ddorda: start your firewall admin tool |
| 18:17.14 | Ddorda | DocScrutinizer-8: i don't have any, never installed one |
| 18:17.24 | md2k7 | DocScrutinizer-8: i'm afraid ubuntu has none of this stuff |
| 18:17.31 | Ddorda | maybe i have something that came wit the system, but i've never checked |
| 18:17.35 | DocScrutinizer-8 | duh |
| 18:17.39 | md2k7 | DocScrutinizer-8: at least none that is on by default |
| 18:17.49 | DocScrutinizer-8 | ok |
| 18:17.56 | DocScrutinizer-8 | mompl |
| 18:18.18 | Ddorda | mompl? |
| 18:18.30 | md2k7 | one moment, please, i guess |
| 18:18.33 | md2k7 | :P |
| 18:19.22 | tomcatek | Ddorda: have You tried to "sudo iptables -F"? |
| 18:19.24 | Ddorda | oh.. lol |
| 18:19.29 | DocScrutinizer | Ddorda: you got WS started? |
| 18:19.33 | tomcatek | it doesn't hurt :P |
| 18:19.35 | Ddorda | wireshark told me that it's lo !! |
| 18:20.04 | Ddorda | tomcatek: it gives me nothing |
| 18:20.22 | DocScrutinizer | Ddorda: please click on "interfaces" menu |
| 18:20.42 | DocScrutinizer | capture - interfaces |
| 18:21.30 | DocScrutinizer | Ddorda: you're alive? |
| 18:21.30 | Ddorda | DocScrutinizer: yea, now to start pinging, right? |
| 18:21.37 | DocScrutinizer | Ddorda: please click on "interfaces" menu |
| 18:21.40 | DocScrutinizer | capture - interfaces |
| 18:21.42 | Ddorda | DocScrutinizer: yes.. i did it |
| 18:21.52 | Ddorda | now to start pinging, right? |
| 18:21.57 | DocScrutinizer | what does it show you? names of interfaces |
| 18:22.21 | Ddorda | wmaster0, wlan, eth1, any, lo |
| 18:22.34 | Ddorda | eth1 & lo has no data |
| 18:23.17 | tomcatek | Ddorda: it shouldn't gove You anything. only clean up firewall |
| 18:23.25 | DocScrutinizer | is this the machine you are using this very IRC on as well? |
| 18:23.36 | Ddorda | indeed |
| 18:24.03 | DocScrutinizer | I assume you're connected to internet via wlan then? |
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| 18:24.09 | Ddorda | now to start pinging 192.168.0.201? |
| 18:24.17 | Ddorda | yes, you're right |
| 18:24.31 | DocScrutinizer | ok start a capture at eth1 |
| 18:24.42 | DocScrutinizer | click the captute button on the right |
| 18:24.53 | DocScrutinizer | err Strat button |
| 18:25.08 | Ddorda | yea yea |
| 18:25.12 | Ddorda | did |
| 18:25.15 | Ddorda | what's next? |
| 18:25.26 | DocScrutinizer | now ping in any terminal to FR |
| 18:25.57 | Ddorda | nothing |
| 18:26.12 | DocScrutinizer | does main wireshark screen show lines with data in upper half? |
| 18:26.20 | Ddorda | no |
| 18:26.30 | Ddorda | it says no packets |
| 18:26.36 | DocScrutinizer | so your pings don't leave the machine |
| 18:26.50 | md2k7 | would give a puzzled look, if that was possible virtually |
| 18:27.19 | Ddorda | yes. so i don't even connect the macine |
| 18:27.59 | DocScrutinizer | olease do a "ifconfig eth1" and paste first two lines of output here |
| 18:28.26 | Ddorda | eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1f:11:01:47:21 |
| 18:28.26 | Ddorda | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.01 | DocScrutinizer | please do a "route" and paste complete output here |
| 18:30.06 | DocScrutinizer | btw the B(road)cast addr looks *weird* in eth1 |
| 18:31.05 | Ddorda | i get nothing on "route" |
| 18:31.13 | Ddorda | oh.. my fault, just took time |
| 18:31.15 | DocScrutinizer | wtf |
| 18:31.26 | md2k7 | Ddorda: it resolves everything by default |
| 18:31.35 | Ddorda | Kernel IP routing table |
| 18:31.35 | Ddorda | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 18:31.35 | Ddorda | 192.168.0.202 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth1 |
| 18:31.36 | md2k7 | route -n is faster but only shows ip addresses instead |
| 18:31.37 | Ddorda | 192.168.0.200 * 255.255.255.252 U 0 0 0 eth1 |
| 18:31.38 | Ddorda | 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 2 0 0 wlan0 |
| 18:31.40 | Ddorda | link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 wlan0 |
| 18:31.42 | Ddorda | default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 wlan0 |
| 18:32.08 | DocScrutinizer | destination 192.168.0.202 |
| 18:32.11 | DocScrutinizer | is wrong |
| 18:32.22 | md2k7 | well, it's a static route to the FR, what's wrong with that? |
| 18:32.47 | DocScrutinizer | err yes |
| 18:32.53 | DocScrutinizer | right |
| 18:33.09 | DocScrutinizer | so 192.168.0.200 * 255.255.255.252 U 0 0 0 eth1 is odd then |
| 18:33.35 | md2k7 | mhm, thats the route that gets added by default as the mask is assigned to the iface |
| 18:34.36 | Ddorda | can i give you any more data so you'll undertand better what's going on? |
| 18:34.42 | DocScrutinizer | I seen this kind of problems / network lockups quite several times |
| 18:34.57 | md2k7 | DocScrutinizer: interesting, I've never seen such things |
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| 18:35.26 | md2k7 | DocScrutinizer: the only problem I had with my FR with last ubuntu version was an interrupt problem |
| 18:35.48 | md2k7 | the interrupt for my wireless got disabled when you plugged in fr, and usb took over its place |
| 18:35.50 | md2k7 | :P |
| 18:35.51 | DocScrutinizer | never really traced it down. A /etc/init.d/network restart always helped me out. Then do setup once again, straight and correct |
| 18:36.16 | md2k7 | but that is probably a bug in my laptop hardware, too |
| 18:36.35 | md2k7 | plug fr in and out, reboot, ... |
| 18:36.45 | Ddorda | maybe i should reflash the device? |
| 18:36.49 | Ddorda | to start from 0? |
| 18:37.06 | DocScrutinizer | Ddorda: first try a "ifdown eth1" "ifup eth1" |
| 18:37.11 | md2k7 | that could also be sth to try, but I guess that should be the last step, I don't see why that shouldn't work |
| 18:37.37 | md2k7 | (reflashing, I mean) |
| 18:37.55 | DocScrutinizer | refalshing won't fix laptop setup anyway |
| 18:38.35 | Ddorda | http://ddorda.pastebin.com/d16650d25 |
| 18:39.07 | md2k7 | DocScrutinizer: for ifup/ifdown, a config in /etc/network/interfaces is needed |
| 18:39.15 | DocScrutinizer | yo |
| 18:39.30 | DocScrutinizer | ifconfig eth1 down then iirc |
| 18:39.34 | md2k7 | y |
| 18:40.18 | DocScrutinizer | Ddorda: do "ifconfig eth1 down" then "route" |
| 18:40.40 | DocScrutinizer | check if "route" output has changed |
| 18:40.53 | andi | one new thing about the g_file_storage issue |
| 18:40.53 | Ddorda | one sec |
| 18:40.59 | DocScrutinizer | unplug and replug FR |
| 18:41.03 | Ddorda | yes, it has changed |
| 18:41.18 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: there're several routing tables in kernel in fact, one of them might influence routing and it's not visible in the "route" output? |
| 18:41.21 | PaulFertser | andi: yes? |
| 18:41.23 | andi | the cd boot problem seems to be a bios issue |
| 18:41.41 | Ddorda | done |
| 18:41.42 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: dunno. seems possible |
| 18:41.47 | andi | I have a workaround |
| 18:41.57 | andi | but still have to clean it up |
| 18:42.10 | andi | it is definitively no freerunner specific issue |
| 18:42.20 | DocScrutinizer | Ddorda: please to a "tail /var/log/messages" |
| 18:43.06 | DocScrutinizer | check for the interface it's detecting (presumably eth1 again) |
| 18:43.13 | Ddorda | http://ddorda.pastebin.com/d53037f74 |
| 18:43.31 | Ddorda | yes, it is eth1 |
| 18:43.38 | DocScrutinizer | eth1: register 'cdc_ether' |
| 18:43.45 | DocScrutinizer | that's the magic word |
| 18:43.49 | DocScrutinizer | ok |
| 18:43.54 | Ddorda | eth1: register 'cdc_ether' ... |
| 18:43.57 | DocScrutinizer | do "ifconfig eth1" |
| 18:43.59 | DocScrutinizer | paste |
| 18:44.17 | Ddorda | eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1f:11:01:47:21 |
| 18:44.19 | Ddorda | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.54 | DocScrutinizer | muuuch better |
| 18:44.54 | DocScrutinizer | see Bcast??? :-) |
| 18:44.59 | DocScrutinizer | do "route" paste |
| 18:46.08 | Ddorda | sec |
| 18:46.16 | DocScrutinizer | mompl ;-) |
| 18:46.26 | Ddorda | okay so mompl :P |
| 18:46.32 | DocScrutinizer | hehe |
| 18:46.38 | Ddorda | 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 1 0 0 eth1 |
| 18:46.53 | DocScrutinizer | the full output please |
| 18:47.01 | Ddorda | 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 2 0 0 wlan0 |
| 18:47.01 | Ddorda | 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 1 0 0 eth1 |
| 18:47.02 | Ddorda | link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 wlan0 |
| 18:47.02 | Ddorda | default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 wlan0 |
| 18:47.05 | DocScrutinizer | thnx |
| 18:47.10 | Ddorda | thank you :P |
| 18:47.48 | DocScrutinizer | try a ping |
| 18:47.56 | DocScrutinizer | watch wireshark |
| 18:48.00 | Ddorda | to 192.168.0.0? |
| 18:48.15 | DocScrutinizer | aaah, stop wireshark capture , restart it then |
| 18:48.24 | DocScrutinizer | do NOT stop wireshark |
| 18:48.26 | Ddorda | yea yea, of course |
| 18:48.40 | DocScrutinizer | stop capturte with the |
| 18:48.58 | Ddorda | ermm.. oops? i closed it a while agp |
| 18:48.59 | DocScrutinizer | 4th left toolbar tool |
| 18:49.00 | Ddorda | ago* |
| 18:49.08 | DocScrutinizer | aah |
| 18:49.15 | DocScrutinizer | restart it |
| 18:49.23 | DocScrutinizer | start captute for eth1 |
| 18:49.27 | Ddorda | to start capturing eth1? |
| 18:49.38 | DocScrutinizer | do "ping 192.168.....fooo" |
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| 18:49.55 | DocScrutinizer | start WS |
| 18:50.08 | Ddorda | dor@dor-laptop:~$ ping 192.168.0.0 |
| 18:50.09 | Ddorda | Do you want to ping broadcast? Then -b |
| 18:50.36 | Ddorda | oh.. oops |
| 18:50.50 | DocScrutinizer | start wireshark. "capture - interfaces" eth1 "start" |
| 18:50.58 | DocScrutinizer | then |
| 18:51.07 | Ddorda | done |
| 18:51.11 | DocScrutinizer | "ping 192.168.0.201" |
| 18:51.38 | Ddorda | data is coming!! |
| 18:51.44 | DocScrutinizer | :-) |
| 18:52.00 | DocScrutinizer | is ping seeing responses? |
| 18:52.01 | Ddorda | From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=31 Destination Host Unreachable |
| 18:52.06 | DocScrutinizer | aah |
| 18:52.22 | Ddorda | but that's more information than what i had so far :P |
| 18:52.28 | Ddorda | so i guess we're going somewhere |
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| 18:52.58 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, you simply need to make FR IP known by your laptop now |
| 18:53.04 | DocScrutinizer | proceed as usual |
| 18:53.26 | Ddorda | how do i do that |
| 18:53.27 | Ddorda | ? |
| 18:54.12 | DocScrutinizer | you might want to download http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/unsorted/neo-ssh |
| 18:54.19 | DocScrutinizer | copy somewhere |
| 18:54.39 | DocScrutinizer | then do "sudo path/to/neo-ssh" |
| 18:55.08 | DocScrutinizer | maybe set "chmod a+x path/to/neo-ssh" prior to that |
| 18:56.30 | DocScrutinizer | maybe you even want to edit this script to use 192.168.0.201 (dunno what you did with your setup, so you might need it) |
| 18:56.34 | DocScrutinizer | and |
| 18:56.47 | DocScrutinizer | then do "sudo path/to/neo-ssh eth1", of course |
| 18:57.10 | Ddorda | one sec |
| 18:57.18 | DocScrutinizer | as your device is eth1, not the script's default eth4 |
| 18:58.23 | Ddorda | how do i know what is what? |
| 18:58.24 | DocScrutinizer | of course you can execute the three commands of that file one by one in commandline as well ;-) |
| 18:58.48 | DocScrutinizer | Ddorda: hmmm |
| 18:58.56 | DocScrutinizer | you got the script? |
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| 18:59.02 | Ddorda | yes |
| 18:59.24 | Ddorda | dor@dor-laptop:~$ sudo ./neo-ssh |
| 18:59.24 | Ddorda | eth4 |
| 18:59.24 | Ddorda | SIOCSIFADDR: No such device |
| 18:59.24 | Ddorda | eth4: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device |
| 18:59.24 | Ddorda | SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device |
| 18:59.25 | Ddorda | SIOCADDRT: No such device |
| 18:59.27 | Ddorda | ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: Connection refused |
| 18:59.29 | Ddorda | root@192.168.0.202 |
| 18:59.31 | Ddorda | oopsy -/- |
| 18:59.51 | Ddorda | sbin/ifconfig $DEV 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 18:59.51 | Ddorda | /sbin/route add -host 192.168.0.202/32 dev $DEV |
| 18:59.51 | Ddorda | root@192.168.0.202 |
| 18:59.52 | DocScrutinizer | sudo ./neo-ssh eth1 |
| 19:00.00 | Ddorda | how can i be sure od these addresses? |
| 19:00.19 | Ddorda | dor@dor-laptop:~$ sudo ./neo-ssh eth1 |
| 19:00.19 | Ddorda | eth1 |
| 19:00.19 | Ddorda | ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: Connection refused |
| 19:00.34 | DocScrutinizer | fr doesn't connect |
| 19:00.43 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: connection refused is a good sign, probably you just have to start sshd on fr |
| 19:01.46 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: like to take over? I'm busy with other things now |
| 19:02.16 | Ddorda | PaulFertser: it is already running |
| 19:02.33 | DocScrutinizer | we got netstat on FR ? |
| 19:02.35 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: i'd propose you do your stuff. I it's hard for me to talk for so long with somebody who doesn't understand networking. |
| 19:02.55 | Ddorda | :( |
| 19:03.58 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: there's an excellent introduction and other insightful documentation on the netfilter.org site. |
| 19:04.05 | DocScrutinizer | Ddorda: on FR do "/etc/init.d/sshd restart" (you might need to edit this command a little. have no way to check correct dir and file names atm) |
| 19:04.13 | Ddorda | DocScrutinizer: i have just ran "netstat" on the phone |
| 19:04.15 | Ddorda | and it worked |
| 19:04.36 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: we don'T need to mess with netfilters when FR refuses connection, no? |
| 19:04.52 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: but you need to read something to understand networking basics. |
| 19:05.14 | DocScrutinizer | Ddorda: is port 22 mentioned in netstat output? |
| 19:06.30 | Ddorda | sec, it's very long, i'll run it with grep |
| 19:07.19 | DocScrutinizer | netstat -nta |
| 19:07.28 | DocScrutinizer | netstat -nta | grep 22 |
| 19:07.53 | DocScrutinizer | even |
| 19:07.58 | DocScrutinizer | netstat -ntap | grep 22 |
| 19:08.03 | Ddorda | yes! |
| 19:08.11 | DocScrutinizer | do |
| 19:08.17 | DocScrutinizer | netstat -ntap | grep 22 |
| 19:08.31 | Ddorda | tcp 0 192.168.0.202:22 |
| 19:08.31 | DocScrutinizer | and look at the command at end of line |
| 19:09.12 | Ddorda | 2441/sshd |
| 19:09.32 | DocScrutinizer | hmm |
| 19:09.37 | DocScrutinizer | should work |
| 19:09.51 | DocScrutinizer | as mentioned above, try to restart sshd |
| 19:09.57 | DocScrutinizer | via initscript |
| 19:10.07 | DocScrutinizer | Ddorda: on FR do "/etc/init.d/sshd restart" (you might need to edit this command a little. have no way to check correct dir and file names atm) |
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| 19:10.53 | Ddorda | done |
| 19:11.11 | DocScrutinizer | if this doesn't help, and even a reboot of FR doesn't help, then probably sshd is misconfig'd |
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| 19:12.09 | Ddorda | ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: Connection refused |
| 19:12.50 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: probably you managed to configure your host as 192.168.0.202 or something. |
| 19:12.54 | Ddorda | it might be, as i've been asked to edit these confs when i asked for help |
| 19:13.24 | DocScrutinizer | Ddorda: in terminal try "ssh 192.168.0.202" |
| 19:14.28 | Ddorda | dor@dor-laptop:~$ ssh 192.168.0.202 |
| 19:14.28 | Ddorda | ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: Connection refused |
| 19:14.47 | DocScrutinizer | also I heard SHR has by default a password now, and key-handling, on FR |
| 19:15.12 | DocScrutinizer | Ddorda: please /join #openmoko-cdevel and ask there |
| 19:15.39 | DocScrutinizer | paste your line above and mention exact version of SHR you are using |
| 19:16.12 | DocScrutinizer | Ddorda: one last test |
| 19:16.25 | DocScrutinizer | Ddorda: you still with me? |
| 19:17.00 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: connection refused means tcp-level failure |
| 19:17.13 | DocScrutinizer | Ddorda: unplug FR, then try to ssh again |
| 19:17.23 | DocScrutinizer | the error should change |
| 19:17.44 | Ddorda | i'm here |
| 19:17.51 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: yep |
| 19:18.09 | DocScrutinizer | so I'm really a little lost |
| 19:18.54 | Ddorda | to try when it's still unplugged? |
| 19:18.55 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: aiui the client gets a ICMP-NAK, no? |
| 19:19.01 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
| 19:19.05 | DocScrutinizer | Ddorda: yes |
| 19:19.25 | Ddorda | dor@dor-laptop:~$ ssh 192.168.0.202 |
| 19:19.25 | Ddorda | ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: Connection refused |
| 19:19.27 | DocScrutinizer | or even a TCP-NAK |
| 19:19.36 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: rather tcp-nak, yes |
| 19:19.37 | DocScrutinizer | darn |
| 19:20.16 | DocScrutinizer | Ddorda: please do a "route" and paste *full* output here |
| 19:20.25 | Ddorda | on host? |
| 19:20.29 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
| 19:20.42 | DocScrutinizer | on laptop that is |
| 19:20.49 | Ddorda | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 19:20.49 | Ddorda | 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 2 0 0 wlan0 |
| 19:20.49 | Ddorda | link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 wlan0 |
| 19:20.49 | Ddorda | default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 wlan0 |
| 19:20.56 | Ddorda | it's unplugged |
| 19:21.03 | DocScrutinizer | arrg |
| 19:21.23 | Ddorda | i feel helpless :( |
| 19:21.31 | DocScrutinizer | so plug in, do neo-ssh, then route, then paste again |
| 19:22.29 | Ddorda | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 19:22.29 | DocScrutinizer | neo-ssh eth1 !!!! |
| 19:22.29 | Ddorda | 192.168.0.202 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth1 |
| 19:22.29 | Ddorda | 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 2 0 0 wlan0 |
| 19:22.29 | Ddorda | 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 1 0 0 eth1 |
| 19:22.29 | Ddorda | link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 wlan0 |
| 19:22.30 | Ddorda | default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 wlan0 |
| 19:22.39 | Ddorda | yes, did eth1 |
| 19:22.42 | Ddorda | i'm noob, not stupid :P |
| 19:23.00 | DocScrutinizer | :-) |
| 19:23.20 | Ddorda | well, i changed back some confs i did on the beggining that someone told me |
| 19:23.31 | Ddorda | something with sshd confs |
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| 19:23.42 | Ddorda | it's the port on more few things |
| 19:23.49 | Ddorda | should i put it back? |
| 19:23.50 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: i fucking told you to use /30, not /24! |
| 19:23.56 | PaulFertser | 22:22 < Ddorda> 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 1 0 0 eth1 |
| 19:24.40 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: That's most likely done automatically by ubuntu nasty |
| 19:24.57 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: that's most likely done by his nasty useless neo-ssh script. |
| 19:25.05 | DocScrutinizer | and I'd really like to get rid of this route entry |
| 19:25.50 | Ddorda | PaulFertser: btw, it was on 34 now, not 24 =\ |
| 19:25.58 | Ddorda | 32* |
| 19:26.12 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: 255.255.255.0 is /24, not /30 i adviced you to use |
| 19:26.19 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: /sbin/route add -host 192.168.0.202/32 dev $DEV |
| 19:27.14 | DocScrutinizer | so whwre's there a /24 ??? |
| 19:27.15 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: i would simply do "ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.252 up |
| 19:27.25 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: there's no need to tweak routing tables at all. |
| 19:27.43 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: the correct routing will be set up automatically based on proper netmask specification. |
| 19:27.59 | DocScrutinizer | aha |
| 19:28.09 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: /sbin/ifconfig $DEV 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 |
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| 19:28.17 | Ddorda | does "Port 22 AddressFamily any ListenAddress 192.168.0.202" needs to show up in sshd confs? |
| 19:28.19 | DocScrutinizer | so what's wrong with /24 |
| 19:28.21 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: this won't work for him since it conflicts with his wlan. |
| 19:28.26 | lindi- | Ddorda: 'ip route' is imho bit easier to understand than 'route' |
| 19:28.50 | DocScrutinizer | when the whole subnet is exclusive use for FR |
| 19:29.40 | Ddorda | it does have /24, even that it's not in the script |
| 19:29.41 | DocScrutinizer | PaulFertser: conflicts with wlan? wlan is on 192.169.1.xxx |
| 19:29.54 | DocScrutinizer | FR is on 192.169.0.xxx |
| 19:30.13 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: oh yes, i see. Before that he told his wlan is on the same subnet. |
| 19:30.24 | DocScrutinizer | maybe I really need my breakfast coffe now. |
| 19:30.47 | DocScrutinizer | sorry I'm away |
| 19:30.47 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer: enjoy your breakfast :) |
| 19:31.04 | Ddorda | cya, and thank you.. |
| 19:31.36 | Ddorda | is helpless :( |
| 19:32.01 | DocScrutinizer-8 | Ddorda: if you dare, do a /etc/init.d/network restart on your lapttop |
| 19:32.07 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: i'd say that's because you do not read the docs... |
| 19:32.15 | DocScrutinizer-8 | prepare to boot if that fails |
| 19:32.28 | Ddorda | DocScrutinizer-8: i will |
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| 19:33.04 | Ddorda | sudo: /etc/init.d/network: command not found |
| 19:34.22 | Ddorda | it was /networking i guess |
| 19:34.24 | DocScrutinizer-8 | Ddorda: toldya I dunno ubuntu. |
| 19:34.28 | Ddorda | and done |
| 19:34.34 | DocScrutinizer-8 | damn ubuntu has upstart |
| 19:35.09 | DocScrutinizer-8 | seems that's not been the problem though |
| 19:35.36 | Ddorda | DocScrutinizer-8: didn't you go for breakfast? |
| 19:35.50 | DocScrutinizer-8 | Ddorda: now replug FR run neo-ssh |
| 19:36.07 | DocScrutinizer-8 | I should have done, yeah |
| 19:36.15 | Ddorda | lol |
| 19:36.40 | Ddorda | ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: Connection refused |
| 19:36.43 | Ddorda | damn it :( |
| 19:39.00 | DocScrutinizer-8 | I'd really read about ubuntu firewall config. I bet it has |
| 19:39.20 | DocScrutinizer-8 | ask PaulFertser about firewalls and netfilters |
| 19:39.49 | DocScrutinizer-8 | and how to temporarily disable all rules |
| 19:40.53 | Ddorda | i'll search if i have a firewall |
| 19:44.16 | DocScrutinizer-8 | Ddorda: you may try to ping 192.168.1.200 from FR |
| 19:45.34 | md2k7 | Ddorda: sudo iptables -L, all policies should be on "ACCEPT" |
| 19:45.56 | DocScrutinizer-8 | s/1.20/0.20/ |
| 19:46.22 | DocScrutinizer-8 | you may watch all files in /var/log/ if there are any entries saying a packet from/to 192.168.0.202 has been REJECTed |
| 19:46.57 | Ddorda | done the ping, got nothing |
| 19:47.06 | Ddorda | md2k7: it's all on ACCEPT |
| 19:47.21 | md2k7 | Ddorda: I guessed so, because it's default |
| 19:47.48 | md2k7 | Ddorda: and no rules anywhere? |
| 19:48.08 | Ddorda | nope |
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| 19:49.44 | Ddorda | i was just told that Ubuntu has a firewall "ufw" |
| 19:50.21 | DocScrutinizer-8 | etc/init.d/ufw stop |
| 19:50.47 | Ddorda | why not to use "ufw disable"? |
| 19:51.20 | DocScrutinizer-8 | ubuntu? WHAT? never heard of ;-) |
| 19:51.41 | Ddorda | lol |
| 19:51.47 | Ddorda | well, i have just disabled it |
| 19:51.52 | Ddorda | but still not working |
| 19:53.15 | Ddorda | i plugged it out and in and ran neo-ssh, still not working |
| 19:53.55 | Ddorda | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 19:53.55 | Ddorda | 192.168.0.202 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth1 |
| 19:53.55 | Ddorda | 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 2 0 0 wlan0 |
| 19:53.55 | Ddorda | 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 1 0 0 eth1 |
| 19:53.55 | Ddorda | link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 wlan0 |
| 19:53.56 | Ddorda | default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 wlan0 |
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| 20:17.55 | Ddorda | i'm reflashing the phone. i want to use clean settings |
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| 20:26.38 | Ddorda | the problem was in my pc |
| 20:26.40 | Ddorda | :( |
| 20:26.45 | Ddorda | :)* |
| 20:27.53 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: what exactly? |
| 20:28.57 | Ddorda | i have no idea, on my brother's netbook it runs well |
| 20:30.56 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: just what i told you, somehow one of the networking bits on your host is wrong. Probably if you read "ip l" and "ip r l table all" (along with iptables -v -L) carefully, you'll see the culprit. |
| 20:31.51 | Ddorda | to read it when the phone is plugged? |
| 20:32.10 | PaulFertser | Ddorda: yes, after you think you prepared everything to be able to connect to it. |
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| 20:45.52 | DocScrutinizer-8 | ubuntu crap |
| 20:46.45 | DocScrutinizer-8 | ubuntu is kinda like windoze. Does everything "hidden from user" in a way it thinks is ok |
| 20:47.05 | mwester | agrees with that criticism. |
| 20:48.03 | tomcatek | ubuntu is for people who were using windows and alloes them to learn about linux in time |
| 20:48.03 | DocScrutinizer-8 | nice to show off a working ootb default system. Horrible if you want one step beyond |
| 20:48.17 | mwester | Someone told me to put ubuntu on my new eeepc netbook, they claimed it "was the best distro for netbooks!". Bullcrap. It felt like windows. |
| 20:48.40 | mwester | I put a standard Fedora on it, and I'm very happy with it now -- plus Fedora had all the drivers out-of-the-box. |
| 20:51.42 | lindi- | my problem is that the cds have non-free software |
| 20:52.46 | DocScrutinizer-8 | hey, for a windoid system that's never been a problem. So never for windoze afine users |
| 20:53.13 | Ddorda | well, ican move to any other things, but i LOVE the way ubuntu get new all the time |
| 20:53.39 | DocScrutinizer-8 | ubuntu is "linux made easy for windoof noobs", so what do you expect to find? |
| 20:54.21 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer-8: well most people are these "windows noobs" -- i do not think it is a bad idea to target regular people :) |
| 20:54.49 | DocScrutinizer-8 | I just don't care |
| 20:57.34 | Ddorda | it's not the point of being easy, i don't mind using even flux all time, i just love all the new functions they got and the many pacages available |
| 20:58.05 | lindi- | Ddorda: ok but you can run debian testing too :( |
| 20:58.11 | lindi- | s/(/)/ |
| 20:59.47 | Ddorda | yes, but it's not the same, debian for example doesn't use PPA's |
| 21:00.01 | lindi- | Ddorda: but are they free software? |
| 21:01.07 | Ddorda | yes i guess |
| 21:02.01 | lindi- | Ddorda: i thought almost no quality control was done |
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| 21:06.36 | DocScrutinizer-8 | what's PPA? Do I really want to know? |
| 21:07.51 | DocScrutinizer-8 | and what's all these new apps allegedly only built for ubuntu?? o.O |
| 21:07.52 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer-8: personal package archive. each registered launchpad user gets a repository where he can upload any source code he wants and canonical will build the binary packages for different architectures and distros (afaik, this might not be exactly correct info) |
| 21:08.52 | DocScrutinizer-8 | rather strange concept, indeed |
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| 21:09.57 | DocScrutinizer | http://software.opensuse.org/search |
| 21:14.09 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer-8: not completely strange concept |
| 21:14.26 | lindi- | it makes it harder to accidentally only release binaries :( |
| 21:14.40 | DocScrutinizer | muhaha |
| 21:14.43 | lindi- | hrm, i wish I had the right keyboard layout. again meant ) and not ( |
| 21:15.00 | lindi- | not impossible but a little harder |
| 21:15.13 | lindi- | for example in opkg.org most programs only have binaries |
| 21:16.00 | DocScrutinizer | in sourceforge.net no project has only binaries by accident |
| 21:16.46 | DocScrutinizer | nah, nevermind |
| 21:16.53 | DocScrutinizer | I simply don't care |
| 21:17.00 | lindi- | DocScrutinizer-8: oh? many projects in sourceforge have binaries even in SVN |
| 21:18.09 | DocScrutinizer-8 | [22:16] <DocScrutinizer> in sourceforge.net no project has only binaries by accident |
| 21:18.16 | DocScrutinizer-8 | please read again |
| 21:19.29 | lindi- | well its always an accident since the TOS forbids non-free software :) |
| 21:19.54 | lindi- | but I suppose "only binaries" is also seldom the case |
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| 21:25.46 | PBeck | hi |
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| 21:36.21 | holycow | hey guys |
| 21:36.30 | holycow | question for those of you familiar with gsm units |
| 21:36.49 | holycow | rogers, wireless provider here in vancouver, offers now something called a rocketstick |
| 21:37.05 | holycow | its nothign more than a usb based gsm device with a sim card. you even get a phone number with it |
| 21:37.15 | holycow | but you can only buy data packages |
| 21:37.48 | holycow | i'm wondering if anyone thinks one would be able to get the gsm device registered on another provider and get a voice package associated with it? |
| 21:38.00 | lindi- | holycow: I have made voice calls with huawei E169 usb stick |
| 21:38.10 | holycow | and with software, such as the dialer on the moko make calls from a laptop? |
| 21:38.21 | holycow | lindi-: i have a similar devices infact a 202 |
| 21:38.23 | holycow | really eh? |
| 21:38.35 | lindi- | holycow: just use the chan_sebi driver of asterisk |
| 21:38.36 | holycow | or 2 oh something anyway |
| 21:38.42 | holycow | really? |
| 21:38.57 | holycow | wow. what software did you use for the dialing? just dialed out from the command line? |
| 21:39.50 | lindi- | holycow: asterisk and linphone i think. i captured audio using strace to prove that audio was really transmitted to the usb stick as 8000 Hz 8-bit samples |
| 21:40.14 | holycow | okay thats flipping cool. duly noted, off to google the rest |
| 21:40.19 | holycow | thank you for the tip :) |
| 21:40.23 | md2k7 | DocScrutinizer-8: how many DocScrutinizers are there :P |
| 21:40.43 | DocScrutinizer-8 | infinite resources |
| 21:41.02 | md2k7 | DocScrutinizer-8: 8) |
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| 21:53.16 | rddDavid51 | Is there a way to have phone number -> name resolution in messages like in phonelogs with shr-u? |
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| 23:01.31 | Wonka | /me wants to believe |
| 23:15.45 | PaulFertser | Hey guys, the most recent mer image for FR will include basic mer functionality along with galculator and maemo xchat version :) |
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| 23:21.43 | Wonka | does mer run from uSD? |
| 23:22.16 | PaulFertser | Wonka: i think it should make no difference from where to run. |
| 23:22.35 | Wonka | needs more uSD cards... |
| 23:25.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | PaulFertser, awesome |
| 23:25.34 | Wonka | PaulFertser: well... shr-unstable .tgz unpacked to uSD booted and mounted /dev/mmcblk0p1 to /mount/card. which is stupid up to dangerous, because it's also /. |
| 23:25.43 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer51: not really, i do not like maemo the slightest, so i do not see mer as anything useful. |
| 23:26.01 | DocScrutinizer51 | hehehe |
| 23:26.06 | Wonka | i do not like the closed-source parts of maemo |
| 23:26.14 | Wonka | but I like the debian-ness of mer |
| 23:26.43 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer51: i just felt i needed to compensate my useless rants about nokia at #maemo and #mer somehow and the mer leader said i can help him to solve build problems on debian. :) |
| 23:27.00 | Wonka | I like SHR, but I dislike the parts of SHR that are annoyingly non-debian-like. networking stuff for example. |
| 23:27.50 | DocScrutinizer51 | mer leader? stskeeps? |
| 23:28.30 | Wonka | on debian installation, "ifup eth0" just works to bring up wpa-roaming wifi. on SHR unstable, I did not get this to work yet, not even after importing debian's /sbin/wpa_action and patching it from "ifup --force" to "ifup -f" |
| 23:29.00 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer51: yep |
| 23:29.54 | Wonka | debian, on the other side, is missing other stuff. I do not remember seeing ophonekitd there... or whatever is used now. |
| 23:30.24 | PaulFertser | Wonka: ophonekitd is there now. But the newest coolest stuff is not because e17 packaging is lacking. |
| 23:30.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | Wonka, well SHR is based on OE, which is a fact I always didn,t like too much |
| 23:31.14 | Wonka | PaulFertser: need to upgrade my debian then... I just copied illume-shr.edj into it too, and gry.edj |
| 23:31.26 | Wonka | PaulFertser: so maybe it's more to my liking then |
| 23:31.34 | Wonka | tangogps 0.99.1 is there too |
| 23:32.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | PaulFertser, what was the bottom line of Ddorda episode now? what is it we've learnt? |
| 23:34.00 | PaulFertser | DocScrutinizer51: networking is hard for those who doesn't want to learn, but that's what we knew already. |
| 23:34.19 | DocScrutinizer51 | lol, yes |
| 23:35.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | ubuntu suckses. also not entirely new |
| 23:37.24 | DocScrutinizer51 | and... there's more to route (8) than my experience figured to understand |
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