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| 02:20.26 | muxe | Hi. I just flashed SHR unstable and I don't get a gps fix, anybody else has/had this problem? |
| 02:24.27 | muxe | uh sorry! It just took ages |
| 02:25.12 | rozzin | ages? |
| 02:25.56 | muxe | like 10minutes ;) |
| 02:26.13 | rozzin | Wow--that is a while. |
| 02:26.44 | rozzin | Were you indoors or something? |
| 02:27.51 | muxe | yep, with my antenna at the window, but even this way I got some satellites without a fix pretty soon. this time (in tangogps) display kept showing 0/0/0 |
| 02:28.14 | muxe | maybe its very cloudy today |
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| 02:55.05 | naquan | excuse me, I have 2 ext2 partitions on my uSD, I used scp to copy the rootfs tar.gz to a partition and tried to extract it using "gzip -dc modules-...tar.gz | tar -xf - -C /media/mmc1", i got the "gzip: error inflating tar: short read" error and don't know how to solve it, could you please help me? |
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| 03:08.26 | naquan | sorry everyone, it's just some error in the image i downloaded. |
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| 03:33.14 | gonzoism | hi |
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| 03:40.17 | KenYoung | gonzoism, Hi |
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| 03:54.26 | rozzin | Hey Ken. |
| 03:54.47 | rozzin | Erp. |
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| 06:56.57 | naquan | hi everyone, could anyone please tell me how to prevent my freerunner from suspend while i'm connecting it with my computer via usb network? some time the phone goes suspended and the network's disconnected. |
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| 07:08.13 | gonzoism | i disabled suspend on mine, and only suspend it manually. I expect i will change that to suspend after 5 minutes or so, later in the future when i'm not playing on it so much. I don't know if that would be a good work around for you, or not. |
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| 07:22.52 | fredrin | naquan: plug it in and out some times and it works |
| 07:25.28 | naquan | gonzoism: thank you, I tried disable suspend but sometime i forgot to turn it back on :( |
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| 07:27.35 | gonzoism | naquan: i disabled mine in /etc/frameworkd.conf keyword search for "suspend" and change the value to either 0 or -1 -1 seems to work better for me, as 0 seemed to let it suspend anyways, sometimes. |
| 07:28.07 | naquan | fredrin: thank you, but when i connect through ssh and the phone suspend, the connection 's dropped, it's just a bit annoy. I wonder if there's some way to disable the auto-suspend only when the usb cable plug in |
| 07:28.18 | gonzoism | then, you can close the window on your icon list, (illume) and get the suspend/lock/poweroff window, or you can hit the power button to suspend it. |
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| 07:29.52 | gonzoism | naquan: one downside of this is that if you get a call, it un-suspends, and won't auto suspend again. i plan on setting the value to like 30 minutes worth of seconds if for some reason i ever start to get calls on it. |
| 07:31.52 | fredrin | naquan: if you plug it in and out, it will be disabled |
| 07:33.08 | fredrin | or a lame hack that 100% sure works is to install mokomaze and run that everytime |
| 07:33.29 | fredrin | mokomaze uses fsoraw to stop suspend |
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| 07:36.05 | naquan | gonzoism: thank you |
| 07:36.16 | gonzoism | my pleasure. :) |
| 07:36.24 | naquan | fredrin: thank you |
| 07:36.31 | naquan | :) |
| 07:37.06 | fredrin | :) |
| 07:41.56 | gonzoism | naquan: i don't remember if i had to restart frameworkd or if i had to reboot for it to take effect. i'm betting you've rebooted it by now. :) |
| 07:44.37 | naquan | gonzoism: i shutdowned it and searching for an stable version of SHR, can i know the version you are using? |
| 07:45.40 | gonzoism | there is no stable version. just the unstable ones. i'm using the one released a few days/weeks ago. it is in the /topic i think. i'll paste the url after double checking for you |
| 07:46.59 | gonzoism | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ actually, that look newer than the one i have. i guess it is updated often... |
| 07:48.54 | gonzoism | naquan: my images are dated (here on my box) 11-18 for the filesystem and 11-20 for the kernel. i can md5sum them, if you want as well. |
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| 07:50.09 | gonzoism | naquan, it might be worth using the newest one. i don't know though. i've had my freerunner for about two weeks or so, and am new to this community and not yet really familiar with the best practices for this OS. |
| 07:52.46 | naquan | gonzoism: thank you, i've had mine one week ago :) i'm new to the OS too. |
| 07:54.20 | naquan | gonzoism: i'll try the latest lite image. |
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| 08:03.45 | gonzoism | i would too, if i were you. really a fun phone, isn't it ? |
| 08:03.54 | gonzoism | nice too |
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| 08:09.09 | naquan | gonzoism: yes it is, open source 's alway fun :) |
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| 09:29.28 | kozio | hey |
| 09:29.39 | kozio | If I bought Kingston microsd 4gb class 4 |
| 09:29.43 | kozio | all be allgright? |
| 09:30.34 | [Rui] | probably |
| 09:30.37 | lindi- | kozio: have you read the wiki? ;) |
| 09:30.43 | kozio | ye |
| 09:30.57 | kozio | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:31.14 | kozio | lindi, so? |
| 09:31.21 | kozio | look likes fine |
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| 09:45.40 | albert2 | openmoko, QTMoko, android, Android Cupcake or qt extended on a Neo Freerunner gta02 ? |
| 09:46.02 | albert2 | And is this a good temephone , the Freerunner ? |
| 09:46.32 | kozio | albert2, openmoko is phone for hackers |
| 09:47.26 | kozio | albert2, my brother hacked a royal wireless |
| 09:47.27 | albert2 | So no easy install of OS on thephone ? I see it as a cheap iphone alike |
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| 09:48.15 | albert2 | Really the phone itself is priced really nice |
| 09:48.18 | kozio | easy |
| 09:48.38 | kozio | iphone = gay phone |
| 09:48.47 | kozio | don't buy it |
| 09:48.51 | albert2 | i can get 3 of em for the price of One iPhone |
| 09:49.11 | albert2 | Albert2 = Apple/mac addict |
| 09:49.35 | albert2 | but he also runs Solaris , Haiku (BeOS) & BSD |
| 09:50.39 | albert2 | What he doesn't like however is called Windows , but occasionally he runs ReactOS |
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| 09:51.27 | albert2 | So if i buy this Freerunner Phone ? What OS is Better for it |
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| 09:52.07 | albert2 | List ; OpenMoko , QTMoko , Android , Android Cupcake , QT Extended |
| 09:52.46 | albert2 | & can they be used in a pair of 2 , like dualbooting your phone |
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| 10:08.26 | albert2 | The Freerunner from Neo comes with this (optional/invluded) DBoard (DebugBoard). Do normal users or normal OS Installation needs this DBoard ? |
| 10:09.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | no. |
| 10:09.42 | Weiss | albert2: you only need that if you want to debug the kernel or if you somehow manage to brick the NOR flash (which I've never heard of with the GTA02) |
| 10:10.00 | mjr | you shouldn't be able to brick the NOR flash _unless_ you have a debug board |
| 10:10.07 | mjr | and then you can fix it with that |
| 10:10.07 | Weiss | indeed |
| 10:10.09 | albert2 | is dual OS'es & a bootselectr a possibility ? is it easy to replace the OS |
| 10:10.33 | mjr | with u-boot, a selector is possible, for instance one os on internal nand and one on sd |
| 10:10.42 | mjr | it is easy to replace the os |
| 10:10.46 | albert2 | example can i create an iso of the phone's HD on my computer to put it back on phone later ? |
| 10:11.41 | mjr | not an iso (those are applicable to mostly optical media), but an image or a tarball, yes |
| 10:11.46 | albert2 | of my list of OS 's above , which are current ,some might be dead already or developement names ? |
| 10:11.50 | mjr | (and it's not a HD as such) |
| 10:12.40 | albert2 | i guesh i want 1 based on OpenMoko & 1 Android based solution |
| 10:12.50 | mjr | SHR wasn't listed, you'd probably want to give that a shot on the internal NAND flash, and/ord Debian on the SD |
| 10:13.09 | albert2 | in future i would love to see a Darwin based iphone like OS |
| 10:13.39 | mjr | I suppose android on the sd card is an option as well |
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| 10:13.46 | mjr | dunno how well that works nowadays on the neo |
| 10:15.40 | albert2 | The SHR looks nice too |
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| 10:16.30 | skamster | hello all, i flashed my moko with the full-image from 30. nov |
| 10:16.49 | skamster | but if i want to connect over ssh, the system does refuse my connection |
| 10:16.57 | albert2 | most probably one ends up running only one OS on his phone , but it's nice to choose from fifferent solutionds at first |
| 10:17.14 | skamster | i haven't done the first setup, but i think, ssh should work anyway |
| 10:17.22 | skamster | (i mean the e17-setup) |
| 10:17.35 | skamster | ah, nothing |
| 10:17.45 | skamster | now it seems to work |
| 10:17.55 | mjr | albert2, shr is probably the one to shoot for of the more traditionally openmokoish things |
| 10:18.04 | skamster | ah, but permissions are denied |
| 10:18.13 | skamster | is there a default-password? |
| 10:18.23 | albert2 | to shoot first ? |
| 10:18.50 | albert2 | or the best solution ? |
| 10:19.14 | mjr | probably the best |
| 10:20.51 | naquan | skamster: the default password may be blank, try press enter when it ask for password. |
| 10:21.06 | albert2 | So what do you guys run on your Neo ? |
| 10:21.22 | dns53 | shr |
| 10:22.32 | zeroedout | qtmoko/shr |
| 10:22.55 | mjr | shr currently, though a really old version, should upgrade (and try the current debian also on the sd) |
| 10:28.40 | albert2 | btw, The Neo phone includes wifi Hardware , right ? |
| 10:29.11 | dns53 | yes |
| 10:30.01 | dns53 | i have not really used it, it does not seem to have the signal strength to connect to the wifi at work from my desk |
| 10:30.16 | albert2 | the tool to install the different OS's is linux based only ? or are windows / Mac build being developed |
| 10:31.03 | albert2 | not that it matters much |
| 10:32.17 | albert2 | any Belgians here , who bought from KD85.com, their Neo ? |
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| 17:53.17 | radekp | mine seems to just suspend |
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| 19:35.28 | slaxxer | upgrade |
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| 20:05.37 | zedstar | flashed shr-u and it asks for a password but it is not default? anyone know what it is? |
| 20:05.38 | zedstar | i mean it is not blank by default |
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| 20:29.28 | mmontour | zedstar: the root password is blank but they've switched to openssh with a configuration that does not permit empty passwords |
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| 20:31.57 | zedstar | mmontour ah thanks......thought something was odd! |
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| 21:32.36 | andi | hi |
| 21:33.02 | andi | has anyone successfully booted some device with the freerunner as "usb cdrom" device |
| 21:34.14 | andi | there are still devices which do not like booting from usb memory sticks |
| 21:34.46 | lindi- | andi: i don't think a cdrom gadget exists for linux. |
| 21:35.04 | andi | file_storage has an option for that |
| 21:35.14 | andi | from linux userspace it works |
| 21:35.34 | andi | but I do not find a bios which accepts that |
| 21:35.58 | andi | modinfo g_file_storage |
| 21:36.03 | andi | shows an option cdrom |
| 21:37.15 | lindi- | andi: ok, but g_file_storage does not work very reliably on fr |
| 21:39.43 | andi | if I set stall=0 and do not use the cdrom option, I was able to install grub and a kernel, and could happily access it also from windows |
| 21:40.07 | andi | and I was able to boot from it on devices which accept usb sticks |
| 21:41.41 | andi | do you think it is a g_file_storage issue or it is about the freerunner's usb controller? |
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| 22:19.04 | PaulFertser | andi: most probably there're still problems with s3c_udc driver since on other devices g_file_storage works without additional tweaks. |
| 22:19.27 | PaulFertser | andi: and stall=0 is something new to me, probably that's the bit i missed when i last tried to use it. |
| 22:21.36 | andi | I guess I'll try it again with my h2200 |
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| 22:26.41 | andi | damn, kernel 2.6.15-hh2 (which I have on that device) seems not to have cdrom=1, so there is no easy trying |
| 22:29.20 | mmontour | g_file_storage with stall=0 works well for me on FR. I use it to install new images to my uSD card. However I did have problems recently when I tried to do the same thing on my Neo1973 |
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| 22:37.44 | PaulFertser | andi: hx4700? |
| 22:39.03 | PaulFertser | I wonder if rtp is interested to know that stall=0 solves g_file_storage problem, i think that's new to all of us. |
| 22:40.15 | andi | h2200 |
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| 22:43.06 | andi | without stall=1 cdrom=1 I can even freeze grub (loaded from hard disk) on some PCs |
| 22:43.25 | andi | until I unplug the FR again |
| 22:45.15 | PaulFertser | andi: probably there's a more modern kernel, -hh development stopped around 2.6.21 iirc. |
| 22:46.42 | andi | I'll try it when I find time |
| 22:47.26 | PaulFertser | andi: big thanks for the stall=0 hint. Is it something you've found yourself? |
| 22:48.05 | andi | I did not implement the stall=0 parameter, but I found out that it helps |
| 22:48.57 | PaulFertser | andi: sure :) Nice trick. /me should not forget to add it to the wiki. |
| 22:48.58 | andi | by myself |
| 22:49.37 | andi | has also a long wiki to do list |
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