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| 00:06.51 | lindi- | irca: ar6000 I think |
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| 03:41.07 | fredrin | yarr |
| 03:45.18 | fredrin | what goodies can i expect from the new and upcomming shr-unstable? |
| 03:45.30 | fredrin | will the message app be faster? |
| 03:45.47 | fredrin | like not 3 min to open if you got like 50+ sms'es? |
| 03:46.14 | AntonTakk2 | eek, 3 minutes to open for 50ish? |
| 03:46.40 | AntonTakk2 | i have well over 200 :) |
| 03:47.27 | fredrin | i'm on a old shr from like 3-4 months ago :( |
| 03:47.55 | fredrin | waiting like a kid on christmas for the new one |
| 03:48.20 | else58 | I'm using shr unstable which uses shr-messages and maybe I'm missing something, but how can I log outgoing messages? |
| 03:49.46 | AntonTakk2 | i tried hackable:1 last weekend or so, really liked it (always preferred the 2007.2 ui) hoping their get their change to fso done well (and quickly would be nice, too) ;) |
| 03:51.38 | fredrin | AntonTakk2: will they use the vala fso? |
| 03:51.54 | fredrin | maybe i should trie h:1 on the sd-card |
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| 03:52.45 | AntonTakk2 | fredrin: dunno |
| 03:54.14 | fredrin | humkay |
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| 04:01.40 | max_posedon_ | else58, new shr-unstable will have this feature |
| 04:03.14 | else58 | max_posedon_: cool - is it in a repo somewhere I can build and try it? |
| 04:04.01 | max_posedon_ | http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/unstable/images/om-gta02/ |
| 04:05.04 | else58 | thanks, I'll give it a try |
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| 11:30.54 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r618a84ddce78 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio: add more error specs |
| 11:30.55 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r60eaf17a53d4 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio: clarify docs a bit |
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| 11:37.02 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r9ccf595170df 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/alsa_audio/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: alsa_audio: catch up with async dbus, sync. with interface error specs |
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| 11:37.03 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: fsodeviced: alsa_audio: fix logic errors in push/pull; also send org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.Scenario on scenario |
| 11:37.04 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: change |
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| 13:57.22 | vladare | Hello everybody |
| 13:58.10 | pbaxter | hi all |
| 13:58.12 | vladare | I need advice for choosing best microSD card for my freerunner |
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| 13:58.46 | vladare | I already has this card http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards/SD-C02G but it seems that becuase of some issue I can't use GPRS with it |
| 13:59.27 | vladare | As soon the PPP connection enabled I've got I/O error |
| 14:04.22 | vladare | Can somebody advice me what kind of the microSD cards do work and doesn't have any problems with GPRS, GPS etc? |
| 14:05.55 | DocScrutinizer | vladare: that's a strange issue rarely reported, and it's not well understood if it's uSD-card related, or a bug in your particular device. Any chances to test same uSD with same distro and same SIM in another FR? |
| 14:05.59 | radekp | vladare: i'd go for sandisk |
| 14:08.55 | vladare | DocScrutinizer: May be it's because there are few people who use GPRS? |
| 14:09.58 | radekp | vladare: that's not very likely - i have sandisk 4GB and GPRS works just fine |
| 14:09.59 | DocScrutinizer | nah, I use it constantly, and I run my system off of two different uSD, and never seen it to break as a result of GPRS |
| 14:10.01 | vladare | DocScrutinizer: I think I can try another SIM card with GPRS but I am not able to find another FR |
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| 14:10.28 | vladare | DocScrutinizer: What cards do you use? |
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| 14:11.20 | DocScrutinizer | nokia 16GB, and 2 dozen of other standard (Kingston, SanDisk, etc) 1GB..8GB cards |
| 14:12.09 | vladare | DocScrutinizer: ok, I will check your solution with another SIM and another one distribution. Currently I am use Hackable1 |
| 14:12.32 | DocScrutinizer | err, *my* solution? |
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| 14:13.16 | DocScrutinizer | I only asked if you could test same SIM in another FR, to make sure it's (not?) SIM related |
| 14:13.31 | DocScrutinizer | s/SIM/uSD/ |
| 14:13.36 | DocScrutinizer | s/SIM/uSD/g |
| 14:14.01 | vladare | DocScrutinizer: Yes, under "solution" I mean this |
| 14:15.33 | vladare | DocScrutinizer: I will try another SIM in my FR |
| 14:15.54 | DocScrutinizer | vladare: If you bought your device recently, and are not to far away from your shop, I'd insist to test another device with same uSD under same distro, and trade it in for repair if the other device works better |
| 14:16.43 | DocScrutinizer | i.e. warranty replacement |
| 14:17.07 | vladare | DocScrutinizer: unfortunatly I've bought it on ebay... but I will ask seller about this opportunity |
| 14:18.12 | vladare | DocScrutinizer: Anyway I need to be sure that my FR is crooked |
| 14:19.20 | vladare | DocScrutinizer: by the way the link I provided above tells that somebody also has this kind of problem http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards/SD-C02G |
| 14:25.28 | DocScrutinizer-8 | vladare: well, I TOLD YOU WHAT i think about it. Most users never see this issue. Of course there are broken uSD occasionally, but it's for sure no known frequent problem of FR to fail uSD-IO on GPRS traffic |
| 14:25.44 | DocScrutinizer-8 | oops, sorry capslock |
| 14:28.18 | vladare | DocScrutinizer-8: okey I see. Thanks |
| 14:28.47 | DocScrutinizer-8 | btw there's very small to no diffs between GPRS and a normal call. So uSD should fails similarly when doing e.g. dd or ls -r during a call |
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| 14:29.41 | vladare | DocScrutinizer-8: For calls I use another phone :) |
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| 14:31.18 | DocScrutinizer-8 | I'm trying to help by giving you "tools" to investigate. I'm not interested in your particular usage habits |
| 14:33.35 | DocScrutinizer-8 | if it's RF interference, it also may break IO when you hold that other phones antenna close to all sides of FR, while the other phone is sending (you need to talk to it to make it send) |
| 14:34.50 | vladare | DocScrutinizer-8: Hm, very interesting. I will try this |
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| 14:47.20 | DocScrutinizer-8 | vladare: anyway, make sure your SD-holder is tightly seated, and the contacts of holder and card are clean |
| 14:49.06 | DocScrutinizer-8 | it should be really hard to open the uSD holder. If it flips open easily or by itself, when card is inserted, then you have a mechanical problem. Come back for further advice then |
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| 14:50.28 | vladare | DocScrutinizer-8: Okey I will check this version also. |
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| 14:51.32 | vladare | DocScrutinizer-8: But if this RF interference can I fix the issue by changing uSD card? |
| 14:52.46 | DocScrutinizer-8 | possibly. That depends on what causes the RF interference sensitivity |
| 14:53.35 | DocScrutinizer-8 | that's why I asked if you maybe could test the "known bad" uSD in another device under same conditions |
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| 14:55.26 | DocScrutinizer-8 | as that's the only way to tell for sure your particular device has a flaw, when other device can't repeat same results under same curcumstances |
| 14:56.58 | ovalenti | Hi folks, I own an obscure linux mobile phone in which I'm able to wipe the proprietary applications, access the framebuffer, the touchscreen and the GSM serial (but I rely on the 2.4.20 montavista kernel). Any hint on my chances to see one day FSO+zhone starting ? |
| 14:58.03 | DocScrutinizer-8 | vladare: also please note there are broken uSD rather frequently which also show random IO-errors, though not related to GSM-RF |
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| 15:03.52 | vladare | <DocScrutinizer-8>: I don't think that my uSD card is broken because it works with any problem during ordinary using but it is crashed soon after pppd started |
| 15:04.49 | DocScrutinizer-8 | ok, if that's absolutely confirmed, then we are back to above discussed scenario |
| 15:05.11 | DocScrutinizer-8 | it can be a sensible uSD, or a flaky FR |
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| 15:05.37 | DocScrutinizer-8 | or or unlucky pairing of both |
| 15:06.59 | DocScrutinizer-8 | there's nothing beyonf swapping cards and swapping device for the "known bad" card you could possibly do |
| 15:08.43 | DocScrutinizer-8 | if FR works with other card, then card is part of the problem. If other FR works with borked card, then your device is part of the problem |
| 15:08.50 | DocScrutinizer-8 | both my apply |
| 15:09.03 | DocScrutinizer-8 | s/my/may/ |
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| 15:13.02 | vladare | DocScrutinizer-8: I hope if it would be my only uSD card... |
| 15:13.32 | vladare | DocScrutinizer-8: Anyway I have to check this |
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| 21:37.46 | jan1 | hello all |
| 21:38.51 | jan1 | Once I saw somewhere a description how to copy your SMS's from Windows mobile to the openmoko, but I cannot find any more where the instructions are... |
| 21:39.05 | jan1 | Do you know where I can find this information? |
| 21:40.31 | PaulFertser | jan1: probably you want to use PISI to sync your FR with something (evolution?) |
| 21:42.54 | jan1 | PaulFertser: No, I want to transfer my current SMS's on my windows mobile phone to the FR. PISI does not support SMS as far as I know... |
| 21:43.30 | PaulFertser | jan1: the easiest is to transfer your messages to SIM. |
| 21:44.29 | jan1 | That might be an option... but I've much more SMS's that fit on my SIM... |
| 21:45.03 | PaulFertser | jan1: well, do you have any way to sync those messages with anything on PC? |
| 21:45.50 | jan1 | The instructions that I cannot find anymore mentioned a tool to do this, and how to proceed to put them next on the FR... |
| 21:47.34 | jan1 | I thought they were on a user page on the wiki or in a mailing list, but I forgot to bookmark them :-( |
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| 22:34.25 | johnsu01 | hm, Samsung sponsoring e17? |
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| 22:45.22 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07cornucopia * re553014c4782 10/fsomusicd/src/ (config.vala main.vala musicplayer.vala playlist.vala): Reimplement saving and add workaround for circular depencies |
| 22:45.25 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07cornucopia * rfc9db374cfd3 10/fsomusicd/src/musicplayer.vala: |
| 22:45.25 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: fsomusicd: Add workaround for Gst bindings bug |
| 22:45.25 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: revert THIS if it's fixed |
| 22:45.26 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07cornucopia * rf2b38e00cf92 10/fsomusicd/src/main.vala: fsomusicd: No, I don't copy code |
| 22:45.28 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07cornucopia * r3e103639006f 10/fsomusicd/src/musicplayer.vala: Fix typo for gstreamer pipe |
| 22:45.31 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07cornucopia * ra765edef8be4 10/fsomusicd/src/ (main.vala musicplayer.vala playlist.vala): fsomusicd: Finally fixed saving |
| 22:45.34 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07cornucopia * r57a6bc34ed9e 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/alsa_audio/plugin.vala: Merge branch 'master' of fso:cornucopia |
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| 22:57.17 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rc85a857a1f1d 10/fsotimed/ (4 files in 3 dirs): fsotimed: add skeleton for source_gsm |
| 22:57.19 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r37d467c1e6d6 10/fsotimed/src/plugins/source_ntp/plugin.vala: fsotimed: source_ntp: catch error during resolving the ntp server address |
| 22:57.21 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rdd61139f92e1 10/libfsobasics/fsobasics/ (5 files): |
| 22:57.21 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: libfsobasics: prepare for per-daemon configuration files |
| 22:57.21 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: If found, the per-process default configuration file will now be available as |
| 22:57.22 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: FsoFramework.theConfig, likewise the default logger as FsoFramework.theLogger. |
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| 23:04.14 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rfe2ec3260b73 10/fsousaged/src/plugins/dbus_service/plugin.vala: fsousaged: dbus_service: reenable system action messages, thanks Slyon_ |
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| 23:39.58 | pieterc | hi panicking |
| 23:41.54 | panicking | hi |
| 23:42.09 | pieterc | good to hear from you, is Valencia still there? ;) |
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| 23:46.47 | panicking | yes |
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| 23:51.54 | pieterc | I think I will do my paper about cross compiling to embedded devices and add a lot of how communities like openmoko do the trick |
| 23:52.13 | pieterc | panicking: which I will write when I'm on erasmus in Valencia next year |
| 23:54.28 | panicking | Maybe you can write somenthing in a new mobile |
| 23:54.29 | panicking | I hope |
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| 23:56.39 | pieterc | what do you mean? A new hardware platform? |
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