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| 02:00.31 | xxtjaxx_ | say anybody got an update on the xglamo bug that makes the screen go cheesy when you swap the orientation?? |
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| 09:41.59 | panicking | larsc, I'm rewriting |
| 09:42.02 | panicking | the vibrator |
| 09:42.09 | panicking | using a new api and a clean source |
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| 10:09.26 | panicking | I have sent an email on the mailing list |
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| 11:05.42 | PBeck | hi |
| 11:14.28 | vanous123 | i rather aks here then in devel :) |
| 11:14.39 | vanous123 | could someone please post me a simple python example |
| 11:14.47 | vanous123 | using clesses |
| 11:14.55 | vanous123 | s/clesses/classes |
| 11:15.00 | vanous123 | s/clesses/classes/ |
| 11:15.04 | vanous123 | :) |
| 11:15.16 | vanous123 | and reading and displaying dbus signal? |
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| 12:09.36 | romanskij_mobile | hello guys, i´m new on openmoko scene and want to try it on my palm tx, what is the actual compiled release for it and where i can finde it? |
| 12:10.10 | lindi- | romanskij_mobile: openmoko distro? |
| 12:10.36 | Sup3rkiddo | can anyone share their setup-env thing? |
| 12:10.42 | Sup3rkiddo | lost it |
| 12:11.01 | romanskij_mobile | sory for that question but what do you mean with distro? distribution? |
| 12:11.09 | lindi- | romanskij_mobile: yes |
| 12:11.19 | romanskij_mobile | mhh |
| 12:11.40 | romanskij_mobile | i dont realy know cause im a newbie |
| 12:12.25 | romanskij_mobile | and so i see now that i have to read throu some websites to get infos, do you have a good link? |
| 12:12.26 | Heinervdm | romanskij_mobile: i never heard of any distro running on palm tx... |
| 12:12.39 | romanskij_mobile | http://zefanja.blogspot.com/2007/09/openmoko-20072-on-palm-tx.html |
| 12:12.44 | romanskij_mobile | here is one |
| 12:12.57 | romanskij_mobile | but it is from 2007 |
| 12:13.20 | lindi- | romanskij_mobile: i don't think that distro exists anymore |
| 12:13.22 | romanskij_mobile | and i wanted to try the actual stable version |
| 12:13.50 | romanskij_mobile | lindi-: look at the link above |
| 12:13.59 | lindi- | romanskij_mobile: yes it's om2007 |
| 12:14.29 | romanskij_mobile | so my question was if there is a 2008 release for palm tx :-) |
| 12:14.56 | CIA-52 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * rebd78b7ecd3c 10/vapi/ (elm.vapi evas.vapi): elm.vapi|evas.vapi: minor API updates |
| 12:14.57 | lindi- | romanskij_mobile: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 |
| 12:14.57 | CIA-52 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * rc7479b86e50b 10/vapi/evas.vapi: vapi/evas: bind new map stuff |
| 12:17.18 | romanskij_mobile | ok thank you lindi- i try some things and if i have some question i ask again ok? |
| 12:17.35 | lindi- | romanskij_mobile: i personally have been using debian for more than a year on my phone |
| 12:18.05 | romanskij_mobile | mhh i don´t know what the best os is for my palm tx |
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| 12:18.46 | romanskij_mobile | so i´m searching for some linux releases for palm |
| 12:20.04 | Heinervdm | romanskij_mobile: if you want to have an om2009 or an om2008 image for your palm you have to compile it on your own |
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| 12:22.10 | romanskij_mobile | jo i see Heinervdm but i dont know if it is possible to do it on osx |
| 12:22.57 | Heinervdm | romanskij_mobile: don't know too |
| 12:23.29 | romanskij_mobile | ok i can try it with an ubuntu or kubuntu boot dvd |
| 12:23.49 | Heinervdm | romanskij_mobile: a build will need about 10 hours |
| 12:23.59 | romanskij_mobile | wow |
| 12:24.23 | romanskij_mobile | so it is better to use an faster computer? |
| 12:25.05 | CVirus | an ? |
| 12:25.06 | Heinervdm | yes, and you will need some GByte of free space |
| 12:25.12 | CIA-52 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * r5efa6e5fdf2a 10/vapi/evas.vapi: vapi/evas: bind even more map stuff |
| 12:25.16 | romanskij_mobile | a faster |
| 12:25.29 | romanskij_mobile | sory for bad english |
| 12:26.28 | Heinervdm | during build it will download about 3GByte of sources and the build needs about 15GByte |
| 12:26.53 | romanskij_mobile | wow |
| 12:27.00 | Heinervdm | so a boot cd that runs in ram is not enough ;) |
| 12:27.09 | romanskij_mobile | jo ok |
| 12:27.48 | romanskij_mobile | i can use my old athlon xp pc to do this,there i can install a linux distribution and compile it |
| 12:28.24 | romanskij_mobile | but if it needs 10 hours on a new pc so i think i need nearly a day with my old computer |
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| 12:47.13 | ary_manzana | Hi |
| 12:48.08 | ary_manzana | Can someone please help me please with getting tangogps to work? |
| 12:48.35 | ary_manzana | When I do "opkg update" I get some errors and the system can't find the gpsd package |
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| 12:52.18 | PBeck | ary_manzana: which distri you are using? |
| 12:56.58 | ary_manzana | neo freerunner |
| 12:57.07 | ary_manzana | I'm actually helping a friend installing it, I have no previous experience with it |
| 12:58.02 | ary_manzana | My friend says that noone touched it until now, so it has the default system and configuration... and it was bought in december |
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| 13:04.24 | brian__ | with all this work happening,,.. maybe a new shr-U is in order |
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| 21:05.24 | PaulFertser | max_posedon: (belarus, flu) btw, is it true that censorship contributes to the flu epidemic situation and not in a good way? |
| 21:06.07 | max_posedon | flu? [Ñвиной кÑипп?] |
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| 21:07.43 | max_posedon | ok, now I understand quesion |
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| 21:08.08 | mwester-laptop | No flu epidemic over here, except that which has been manufactured by our politicians for political gain. |
| 21:08.21 | max_posedon | PaulFertser, Belarus haven't enough "pig" flu markers |
| 21:09.11 | max_posedon | e.g. Belarus haven't enough resources to detect situation, so, there is no "pig" flu in Belarus. |
| 21:09.36 | PaulFertser | max_posedon: well, it doesn't matter anyway because it should be treated like any other flu. |
| 21:09.37 | max_posedon | only few labs in Minsk can split "pig" flu, from regular flu. |
| 21:09.56 | PaulFertser | max_posedon: there's no need to diffirentiate between those in fact. |
| 21:10.22 | [Rui] | there is one highly important difference, though... it's got a lot of mass histerics around it :) |
| 21:10.28 | max_posedon | but my friend doctor, speaks that there is no any epidemia right now in Belarus |
| 21:10.41 | PaulFertser | mwester-laptop: are you sure that epidemic rates are roughly the same as for usual season flu? |
| 21:10.48 | max_posedon | people will start illing little bit later - begging of december may be |
| 21:10.58 | [Rui] | well, the only real problem of this flu is that a lot of people can get sick at the same time, and that causes a real problem for companies and human resource management in general |
| 21:11.46 | mwester-laptop | PaulFertser: I don' tknow what figures constitute "epidemic", but the current H1N1 in North America is, by my amateur calculations, no statistically different from the ordinary flu in terms of mortality. |
| 21:12.31 | mwester-laptop | Hardly a crisis, yet the politicians make it into one, and get everyone worked up. Oh well, at least people are learning how to keep the *ordinary* flu from spreading, so there is some good I suppose. |
| 21:12.33 | PaulFertser | mwester-laptop: mortality is another topic. But some people claim that the "new" flu is more contageous hence more dangerous overall. |
| 21:12.46 | [Rui] | PaulFertser: it's more dangerous to society in general |
| 21:12.48 | mwester-laptop | speculation. |
| 21:13.22 | [Rui] | PaulFertser: speculative situation: a police precint is put "offline" due to generalised contagion in the same week. |
| 21:13.25 | Meomer | where society means economy? |
| 21:13.40 | mwester-laptop | Heh - yeah. |
| 21:13.43 | [Rui] | the affected area might see an increase in crime rate |
| 21:13.46 | mwester-laptop | or society means political power. |
| 21:14.15 | [Rui] | imagine a supermarket which has to close down for a week because it has nobody to work in it as they're home at the same time |
| 21:14.22 | Meomer | what if that happens but it's the seasonal flu? :) |
| 21:14.24 | [Rui] | it's more on the range of these kinds of problems |
| 21:14.35 | [Rui] | Meomer: the seasonal flu isn't as contagious |
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| 21:14.59 | [Rui] | the problem is the potential to have a lot of people absent from their workplace at the same time |
| 21:15.44 | mwester-laptop | Contagion can be controlled - my problem is that the politicians have not spent nearly as much effort in teaching people and companies how to control the spread, as they have on a *failed* policy of vaccination. |
| 21:15.49 | mwester-laptop | That's just wrong. |
| 21:16.31 | Meomer | a lot of people know about the risk but then go on and ignore all advice |
| 21:17.27 | Meomer | like my gf's mother is head nurse and had to send two or three nurses home after they "almost" casually noted that their children had gotten the piglets |
| 21:17.29 | PaulFertser | mwester-laptop: i wonder why preparing a vaccine took so long because it seems to be a standard routine for seasonal flu. |
| 21:17.31 | [Rui] | following the advice that is being given, takes you one step closer to being a robot rather than a human |
| 21:17.39 | mwester-laptop | Or do stupid things, like washing hands, etc -- then they share a water bottle at the gym. :( idiots. |
| 21:17.54 | mwester-laptop | PaulFertser: that's a good question. |
| 21:18.54 | PaulFertser | mwester-laptop: (sharing bottle) i prefer to think that for a person with good immune systems it's harmless and those without will get ill anyway, probably just a bit later. |
| 21:19.11 | mwester-laptop | I tend to think the same way - best to get it over with, I think. |
| 21:19.20 | mwester-laptop | (Except for the high-risk category) |
| 21:20.03 | PaulFertser | Sure, i won't be sharing a bottle with a bum :D |
| 21:20.08 | [Rui] | what I most love is doors :) |
| 21:20.16 | [Rui] | how do you open? kick them down? :) |
| 21:20.17 | mwester-laptop | door-knobs, you mean? |
| 21:20.19 | Meomer | i wouldn't even vaccinate the elderly, or they'll never die |
| 21:20.28 | mwester-laptop | smacks Meomer ! |
| 21:20.28 | [Rui] | mwester-laptop: yeah :) |
| 21:20.32 | mwester-laptop | is old. |
| 21:21.30 | Meomer | we soon won't have enough qualified personell to look after our old people |
| 21:21.31 | mwester-laptop | Actually, for H1N1, the population that was exposed to the seasonal flus in the late 1950's are apparently less affected. |
| 21:21.45 | mwester-laptop | So it's the small children that are most at risk, not the elderly. |
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| 21:22.07 | mwester-laptop | Meomer: that's why I focus on taking care of me; I don't trust the government nor anyone else to do so! |
| 21:22.24 | PaulFertser | [Rui]: freaky women always carry some napkins with them |
| 21:22.32 | Meomer | but nothing to worry much, most of the people still die in their own four walls |
| 21:23.52 | [Rui] | being probably a bit too freezing cold: the ageing population is a self-solvable problem, however many won't like the inevitable resolution (likely me neither, if it happens in my generation rathern than in 3 or 4 |
| 21:25.42 | mwester-laptop | I say pit the generations against each other. Never underestimate the old -- experience and treachery will overcome youthful exuberance. |
| 21:26.22 | mwester-laptop | Chainsaws at dawn! |
| 21:27.30 | [Rui] | but I expect we'll likely have rebotical avatar's to do our physical chores (like in that most excellent movie with Bruce Willis, Surrogates). |
| 21:27.34 | Weiss | mwester-laptop: hehe.. that's the motto of the computing society at my old university |
| 21:27.47 | [Rui] | although not as fancy for a long time :) |
| 21:28.15 | mwester-laptop | According to the billboards advertising that movie, "fancy" == sexy? |
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| 21:29.07 | [Rui] | mwester-laptop: advanced, perfect, whatever :) |
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| 21:30.14 | mwester-laptop | I'll watch it when it's out on DVD. |
| 21:32.25 | [Rui] | mwester-laptop: you'll loose the "magic" of cinema, but the story is good enough to glue you even with a small screen :) |
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| 21:35.30 | PaulFertser | [Rui]: if only there were cinema theatres where morons wouldn't be admitted :-/ |
| 21:35.41 | mwester-laptop | agrees! |
| 21:36.16 | [Rui] | sure.... morons suck, but you have to zone them out :) |
| 21:36.30 | mwester-laptop | The evening shows are full of the idiots, and the afternoon shows are full of the little kiddies. |
| 21:38.22 | PaulFertser | There's one cool place in moscow where you can see plenty of cinema classics (e.g. "Citizen Kane" or Fellini films etc.). The tickets are really cheap and everything would be good if only some shitheads managed to shut up and watch the film :-/ |
| 21:38.51 | mwester-laptop | But maybe the real reason for me is that I can't justify my surround sound system and the big screen unless I can tell the wife that I'm saving money by not purchasing theatre tickets. |
| 21:38.53 | mwester-laptop | :D |
| 21:39.10 | mwester-laptop | enjoyed Citizen Kane |
| 21:40.26 | [Rui] | mwester-laptop: lol |
| 21:40.47 | [Rui] | got a 32'' samsung lcd stuck on a matte-black wall |
| 21:41.07 | [Rui] | at 3 meter distance... it should be at least 52'' in order to give proper cinema looks :) |
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| 21:42.55 | SpeedEvil | opera glasses. |
| 21:43.43 | mwester-laptop | 52" Sony |
| 21:44.06 | mwester-laptop | But I don't think the wife would let me paint the wall black! :o |
| 21:44.16 | PaulFertser | I once was watching a film in an empty theatre (two morons quitted after first ~40min). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vozvrashcheniye |
| 21:45.12 | PaulFertser | Hm, no, it was |
| 21:45.16 | PaulFertser | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Banishment |
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